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well as I was saying what I had in mind 00:00:00
well as I was saying what I had in mind was to talk to you about an overall view 00:00:02
of the drug abuse problem and you may 00:00:09
wonder why I as a philosopher I'm in any 00:00:15
position to talk to you about this at 00:00:16
all but I became interested in it back 00:00:22
in 1958 00:00:24
because my field of study is the 00:00:26
psychology of religion and therefore all 00:00:31
of the different modalities of human 00:00:33
consciousness and I heard from there is 00:00:40
people working at UCLA on mescaline and 00:00:43
LSD that these drugs appeared in the new 00:00:50
states of consciousness very similar to 00:00:52
what we called mystical experience or 00:00:54
cosmic consciousness and they asked me 00:00:57
if I would be a guinea pig and come in 00:00:59
and experiment with particularly LSD all 00:01:03
semester them and find out what happened 00:01:07
and try also to give them as accurate a 00:01:11
description of the effects of these 00:01:12
chemicals as I could 00:01:15
which I proceeded to do I have a certain 00:01:21
kind of gift which they call the gift of 00:01:23
the gab and I love the challenge of 00:01:27
describing what was supposed to be 00:01:28
indescribable they fried out 00:01:31
dimethyltryptamine on me which was 00:01:34
supposed to dissent it very too 00:01:35
completely but I made a bet with the 00:01:37
doctors that I would remain coherent and 00:01:39
did it was difficult but that's how I 00:01:44
got interested and so then I began to 00:01:48
explore the sociology of drugs and the 00:01:54
first thing I think we must be clear 00:01:55
about is that the work drugs is very 00:01:58
misleading because we have a harmless 00:02:02
social institution called a drug store 00:02:04
and sits on the corner of every city 00:02:08
street 00:02:10
and nobody feels with drugstore as a 00:02:14
menace then we use the word drug in the 00:02:18
world of drugged when a person is out 00:02:24
dhoti they confused and among those 00:02:30
drugs or chemicals which do all the 00:02:32
consciousness 00:02:33
there are vastly different substances 00:02:36
with vastly different effects 00:02:36
ranging from caffeine aspirin alcohol marijuana LSD mescaline DMT psilocybin 00:02:49
heroin opium so on 00:02:56
and we should clean each one of them separately instead of lumping them all 00:03:03
together because they're quite it 00:03:05
now put the cat among the pigeons and you may know this already and I may be 00:03:15
telling the news but I want to make a 00:03:19
provocative statement 00:03:19
the laws of the United States and the programs government-sponsored concerning 00:03:30
the use of addictive drugs are a total 00:03:39
failure not only a total failure but 00:03:42
they're making the problem worse they 00:03:45
are so stupid but anyone supporting 00:03:49
those laws must be either a [ __ ] or 00:03:53
involved in the record it's that bad 00:03:53
first of all we all know the government agencies are self-serving institutions 00:04:03
let's face it person in a government 00:04:10
agency wants to keep the job so we'll 00:04:13
consider the Bureau of Narcotics it is 00:04:18
in the interest of that Bureau that 00:04:21
there be a drug problem because if the 00:04:24
work was the bureau would have no reason 00:04:25
for existence and this is true of police 00:04:31
matters on a much broader scale because 00:04:35
the drug problem is effective in of what 00:04:38
we will call some cheery divorce 00:04:40
Suntory law is a confusion of church and 00:04:44
state it is a law against sin as 00:04:48
distinct from crime in my definition 00:04:52
although these definitions can always be 00:04:55
disputed on as odd as they were on the 00:04:57
edges a crime is an offence against 00:05:01
society in which somebody is injured and 00:05:04
is disposed to complain the person was 00:05:09
robbed assaulted 00:05:09
simply doesn't want that to happen but there are innumerable sins you might 00:05:17
call them but that's an ecclesiastical 00:05:22
term or we might say crimes without 00:05:25
victims such as gambling prostitution 00:05:30
drug taking and various forms of sexual 00:05:35
relationship and when you try to 00:05:42
regulate these things by law you 00:05:47
invariably enter into a super colossal 00:05:50
mess not only is it that government 00:05:56
agencies against these things and that 00:05:58
variable say narcotics sports by squads 00:06:00
so on have a vested interest in their 00:06:03
continuance but also by prohibiting them 00:06:08
you will put up the price of engaging in 00:06:11
them take heroin price of heroin and bad 00:06:16
heroin of that is colossal these twenty 00:06:19
five bucks a day to maintain the habit 00:06:22
therefore this is one of the most 00:06:25
thriving industries in the United States 00:06:27
I have been told of dollar-wise heroin 00:06:32
is the biggest in thought of the United 00:06:34
States I don't know if this is true but 00:06:38
somebody is doing very well indeed the 00:06:43
perfect sell yet the person hooked and 00:06:46
in order to maintain that has it they 00:06:48
have to become a pusher sell it or else 00:06:52
a rubber and street crime buggy is 00:06:57
directly related to the necessity of 00:07:00
maintaining the heroin habit 00:07:00
now once you make this a matter for police control in corrupt the police the 00:07:08
police in the United States began to be 00:07:13
corrupted at the time of prohibition and 00:07:17
mr. an singer who had a job under 00:07:19
prohibition had to find himself another 00:07:20
job so he cemented drugs as the new 00:07:26
prohibition we did very well he 00:07:31
persuaded by the force of the United 00:07:34
States it's prestige almost all other 00:07:36
countries to cooperate in his program 00:07:39
and therefore set up by response by 00:07:46
bounce the biggest international racket 00:07:49
darling 00:07:49
one wonder sometimes at this dance they needed me to profit from him we can only 00:07:54
say that he profited by holding with 00:07:59
eminent position but somebody is making 00:08:05
fortunes out of the trade simply because 00:08:08
the price is high in the price is high 00:08:10
because it's forbidden 00:08:10
any idiot should be able to see that in the meantime the police are neglecting 00:08:20
their other duties if you have a robbery 00:08:29
say in your home they couldn't be less 00:08:34
interested in retrieving the stolen 00:08:35
goods I know a case that happened fairly 00:08:40
recently where Police inspectors didn't 00:08:44
come around for two days after the 00:08:46
robbery and then I sent over a couple of 00:08:49
goons in plain clothes real bloomed and 00:08:54
they sort of shuffled around and looked 00:08:57
at things and went off they don't give a 00:09:01
damn because they've got too much to do 00:09:01
and they're underpaid so my proposal is in general that the duties of police be 00:09:16
restricted to four areas one protecting 00:09:22
us from robbery to protecting us from 00:09:25
violence three directing traffic and for 00:09:29
giving aid to persons in distress for 00:09:33
the personnel of Vice squads and 00:09:36
narcotics plots that simply be 00:09:38
transferred to these opportunities 00:09:40
because in all conscience there's enough 00:09:43
to do in those four areas then you say 00:09:49
well what are you going to do about 00:09:50
these other things well let's face it 00:09:53
let's be realistic there are going to be 00:09:56
people they're always hassling people 00:09:59
who do silly things it's stupid to 00:10:04
become dependent on drugs it's pretty 00:10:07
stupid to gamble 00:10:10
but you can't stop people being stupid 00:10:13
by law not can you make people moral by 00:10:17
law this is the essence of Christian 00:10:21
ideas that morality is of no 00:10:24
significance unless whatever is done or 00:10:27
whatever is not done is done freely 00:10:27
in other words it has to be your own voluntary act a person who is compelled 00:10:36
to be moral it is not in Christian view 00:10:42
moral at all but merely scared 00:10:42
and therefore we would immensely relieved some of our social problems if 00:10:53
we took all some three laws of the books 00:10:56
legitimize prostitution gambling and 00:11:01
treat drug taking as a health problem I think things like marijuana which a 00:11:12
relatively harmless should be it 00:11:16
available on the same basis as alcohol 00:11:16
license not sold to minors as to other drugs I think this is a problem for 00:11:28
physicians and health clinics not police 00:11:35
definitely not police 00:11:35
so in that case what would happen there would be at least a temporary rise 00:11:47
perhaps in the youth diseases about 00:11:53
freedom necessarily involves risks you 00:11:57
cannot have a free country which is at 00:12:00
the same time necessary now here's the 00:12:04
FDA about to prohibit the sale of 00:12:07
vitamins above a certain strength except 00:12:09
on prescription what are they going to 00:12:12
interfere with next as an adult male who 00:12:16
has a fair knowledge of these things I 00:12:18
feel insulted by the making of these 00:12:22
recommendations into law I feel grateful 00:12:26
to the FDA that confines itself to 00:12:28
giving advice but when laws are passed 00:12:32
so that I can't buy what vitamins I want 00:12:34
to buy without a doctor's prescription 00:12:36
I feel offended I feel that my internet 00:12:41
judgment or insulted as I'm perfectly 00:12:45
willing to read the books and find out 00:12:47
what's dangerous and what isn't 00:12:48
or what somebody's opinion is about 00:12:50
what's dangerous somewhat ism of 00:12:52
medicine is not an exact science by long 00:12:54
term but when more and more laws are 00:13:00
passed the situation becomes intolerable 00:13:04
see we have a very naive faith in law 00:13:08
there about the sarado be a law against 00:13:11
it so they make a law against now it 00:13:15
makes everything more complicated 00:13:16
because you can hardly move today 00:13:18
without a lawyer to tell you what you 00:13:21
may or may not do 00:13:23
especially in business and especially in 00:13:26
small business so we are surrounded with 00:13:31
law and surrounded with officers and 00:13:34
officials who are acting supposedly for 00:13:37
our own good but actually acting for 00:13:39
their own good cause it's their job now 00:13:44
if we took some jury laws off the books 00:13:48
we would empty the jails by at least a 00:13:51
third of their population jails are 00:13:56
jammed full of people who ought not to 00:13:58
be in jail at all because they're in 00:14:02
there for sin is distinct from crime and 00:14:05
they don't feel guilty and therefore 00:14:07
they resent being first and the state of 00:14:10
imprisonment merely confirms them in 00:14:12
their apron of society in California 00:14:17
we're supposed to have the very best 00:14:19
jails in the country places like 00:14:22
Vacaville and San Quentin are supposedly 00:14:24
real far out they are unbelievably 00:14:27
dreadful because they're a task arrest 00:14:30
situation with people in there on one to 00:14:32
ten year sentences and you know we'll 00:14:35
let you out if you show signs of 00:14:37
improvement 00:14:37
nobody knows what they're supposed to do what is the serving the sign of 00:14:43
improvement and will the probation 00:14:49
officers considered by merely showing 00:14:50
signs of improvement as a pretense in 00:14:53
order to get out so that I can recommend 00:14:55
to fight crime and these then 00:15:00
psychiatrists intubation officers have 00:15:02
very subjective judgments about whether 00:15:04
the person is faking or not so these 00:15:14
inmates are in the rightful position 00:15:18
after for uncertainty as to how long 00:15:21
they will be in there don't forget too 00:15:24
that in the United States the prison 00:15:28
means a lot more than being out of 00:15:33
harm's way so that you won't harm 00:15:35
society it means sexual deprivation it 00:15:39
means the lousy-ass diet imaginable and 00:15:43
it is all phonologists pretty much agree 00:15:48
that our prisons are full of crimes are 00:15:52
on it so when you put the rather 00:15:58
sensitive people who tend to become 00:16:00
addicts in these institutions you create 00:16:05
an abomination there's no answer and it 00:16:10
merely increases the elements of society 00:16:10
lost moths before last the 6th army sent its top brass to the effluent Institute 00:16:24
the Esalen Institute you may have heard 00:16:28
of it's what's called a human potential 00:16:31
center or a growth Center in California 00:16:35
where we study everything from religion 00:16:38
to psychotherapy to group encounter to 00:16:42
all kinds of things sensory awareness 00:16:44
training and all the top brass came down 00:16:47
there for 10 days to study what might be 00:16:50
alternatives to drugs turn-ons the 00:16:53
alternative tunnel and while the public 00:16:59
meetings were as usual talks involving 00:17:04
an immense amount of men around the 00:17:05
means there was very sensible general 00:17:09
their general policy and in these 00:17:13
conferences you know all the valuable 00:17:14
work is done it with a coffee table 00:17:16
autonomy public meetings so at great 00:17:21
length talking with him and with the 00:17:22
chief psychiatrist Arnold Livingston of 00:17:24
Netherlands they absolutely agreed that 00:17:27
this could not be solved by police 00:17:29
methods but the public is in such a 00:17:35
state of panic 00:17:37
and have such a naive faith in the law 00:17:41
and law enforcement that a congressman 00:17:45
who tries to overturn the situation is 00:17:48
terrified of losing his votes the drug 00:17:56
abuse problem is a problem not of those 00:17:58
who abuse drugs but of society at large 00:18:03
and society at large has been educated 00:18:03
see that those who are addicts are in fact sick they are not criminals and we 00:18:13
must look very carefully at the British 00:18:20
Way of handling the money on which there 00:18:23
have been some articles recently in The 00:18:25
New Yorker that are wonderfully 00:18:26
well-informed showing that their problem 00:18:31
is nothing compared to ours although 00:18:34
they still have a problem but it is a 00:18:37
minor 00:18:39
they simply have tenex where if you 00:18:42
could tell yourself to be a heroin 00:18:44
addict you'll get your supply with the 00:18:47
opportunity of consultation its 00:18:49
counselors or physicians who can help 00:18:52
you kick it but you can't kick heroin 00:18:56
like that any more than you can kick 00:18:59
alcohol like that cause you get 00:19:01
withdrawal symptoms all kinds of 00:19:03
problems 00:19:03
so I think we have to consider it with the adoption of something like the 00:19:09
British system and stop the record 00:19:11
I have some wonderings in my mind as to what the Vietnam War was really about 00:19:21
and then it occurs to me that laughs is 00:19:27
the one of the biggest opium supply 00:19:29
sources in the world and whoever 00:19:31
controls last is very rich one remembers 00:19:36
the opium wars when the British got 00:19:38
control of the opium trade into China 00:19:40
and they made enormous sums of money 00:19:43
selling opium for the Chinese and there 00:19:47
it's still sitting a great prize for 00:19:50
anyone who can capture forget it 00:19:50
so we have to be rather clinical about these things 00:20:00
and so I realized that various institutions do not exist for the good 00:20:08
of the public 00:20:12
but for their own interests and that 00:20:16
when you prohibit something by law you 00:20:20
automatically sweep it under the carpet 00:20:21
or drive it underground where it festers 00:20:25
and gets worse and worse and worse 00:20:27
everything needs to be brought out into 00:20:30
the open to have the sunlight on it it's 00:20:32
like for example the city streets the 00:20:36
fremitus kind of city street wherever it 00:20:38
will also split up shops along it and 00:20:40
where moms are sitting looking out the 00:20:42
window or sitting in chairs on the 00:20:44
doorway and watch the passing crowd this 00:20:46
far less likely to be crime in those 00:20:50
streets than there is in the corridors 00:20:52
of a housing development as long on 00:20:56
empty corridors with nobody watching 00:20:59
empty streets and nice residential 00:21:02
apartment areas where nobody has a shot 00:21:06
that's the ideal situation for crime 00:21:10
that's why they bring everything out 00:21:12
into the open that everybody watch and 00:21:17
then you automatically reduce from 00:21:17
now those are my preliminary observations on the legal aspect of the 00:21:26
NAFTA and I would welcome some 00:21:30
discussion with you 00:21:33
question about legalization you've 00:21:36
always thought that that was the answer 00:21:38
to for example in 00:21:42
Nevada where gambling is legal in spite 00:21:46
of the be missing Tamaki a hospital 00:21:46
I'm just wondering if something like then within these human needs foolish 00:21:56
people think that you Christ participate 00:22:04
being such a great source of wealth 00:22:07
would've not went without really 00:22:09
ultimately saw 00:22:10
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well Nevada is a sort of island state surrounded by states which have 00:22:19
completely different controls and 00:22:22
attitudes and since on a nationwide 00:22:27
basis the Mafia probably controller that 00:22:31
British are to maintain their rule in 00:22:34
Nevada 00:22:34
to the power the breweries in Germany they own almost every restaurant in fact 00:22:46
first 00:22:52
well of course this is another problem that sort of separate from its the 00:22:59
problem of the mega-corporations which 00:23:06
are brought up by other corporations 00:23:08
which is finally owned by finance 00:23:10
companies which is an absentee ownership 00:23:14
and they are interested in nothing but 00:23:18
making money they don't give a hoot in 00:23:20
hell as to the quality of the product 00:23:22
they have no pride in it they just want 00:23:24
we showed it makes money and since they 00:23:27
get all this money their money divided 00:23:28
and accept other people's shoddy 00:23:30
products 00:23:31
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please think about the 00:23:43
- non some to worry all right 00:23:50
doesn't seem to work very well 00:23:56
you know 75% of five accountants if it was undetected 00:24:10
and if they did detect it all the hope all the hotels and Tom would not hold 00:24:17
the prisoners 00:24:19
so the punishment doesn't seem to be a deterrent especially capital punishment 00:24:29
I think we have evidence from states or 00:24:38
countries where it doesn't exist that 00:24:38
they may perhaps have a little less murder than countries where they do 00:24:47
[Music] after I don't think it's any answer 00:24:52
there are a lot of problems that are 00:25:00
solved by doing nothing about 00:25:00
I do 00:25:09
front of course is or 00:25:13
oh no it's not confined to that tradition the punishment is revenge it's 00:25:24
it's authorized to damage and let's face 00:25:36
it that's what it is 00:25:36
now the Department of Corrections in California makes a great palpable ooh 00:25:45
about rehabilitation and so there are 00:25:51
social service workers and chaplains and 00:25:53
this that and the other in the jails but 00:25:57
it's so obviously the fact of the matter 00:25:59
is that it's punishment and you cannot 00:26:02
synthesize punishment and rehabilitation 00:26:05
it just doesn't work we live in a 00:26:11
society which has many self 00:26:13
contradictory institutions like marriage 00:26:16
which is supposed to be based on 00:26:18
romantic love but is nevertheless 00:26:19
illegal contact based on the 00:26:22
old-fashioned arranged marriage the two 00:26:25
don't go together 00:26:25
and we don't realize too that the proliferation of government is as great 00:26:43
a menace to society as overpopulation 00:26:49
pollution and nuclear energy 00:26:49
is a book that's terrible in the Bible someone think it's in the book of 00:27:03
Proverbs we there had to be found for 00:27:09
some reason that tree or plant which 00:27:11
would become king of the forest so they 00:27:16
first went to the noble Oakland said 00:27:17
would you please become king of the 00:27:19
forest and the oak said well I don't 00:27:21
really have time for that sort of work 00:27:22
I'm not good at administration and that 00:27:25
my work is to produce his excellence in 00:27:29
solid hardwood so then they went to the 00:27:32
pine and the time said well I don't 00:27:37
think I'd be any good at that I my 00:27:40
businesses to produce this lovely 00:27:47
provision parts and to also be useful 00:27:53
for for lumber and so they went round to 00:27:57
all the trees and all had excuses the 00:27:59
vine was busy producing great apple tree 00:28:02
apples and whatnot they finally went to 00:28:05
the Brandel hmm nothing special - I'll 00:28:10
take it open so the Brownville grew and 00:28:14
grew and grew and spangled the whole 00:28:16
forest 00:28:16
that's what governments do very and police and it's been to the middle 00:28:26
stay tuned we take a quick break and we'll get to part two of tonight's 00:28:43
lecture from Alan Watts drug abuse you 00:28:47
can write to some more information here 00:28:49
wfm you care of Alan Watts p.o box 201 1 00:28:52
Jersey City New Jersey o7 303 00:28:52
back in a second Joe Frank is at seven o'clock tonight folks stay tuned 00:29:01
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something like she mentioned this via some problems taken on the hands of the 00:29:28
police 00:29:31
yes and I agree that live on defendants 00:29:35
behavior not the attitude person whose 00:29:39
hands 00:29:39
the hands of physicians it's a house 00:29:42
just like if it would be tuberculosis or leprosy 00:29:54
facility maybe just on the United States's on such a larger scale that 00:30:01
couldn't be handled the same way the 00:30:05
British thing okay 00:30:06
well I think it could be helpful that 00:30:08
would take a fifth 00:30:08
I mean it would mean a bigger organization of tenants I think that's 00:30:17
the way to go about it 00:30:23
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now part of the reason for there being the drug problem 00:30:39
[Music] is a failure in religion 00:30:46
[Music] you used to be said you know what this 00:30:56
country needs is a good five cents ago 00:31:02
how could say what this country needs is 00:31:04
a credible religion also one of the 00:31:09
something that neither none of the 00:31:11
religions of Stanley brand religions are 00:31:13
doing at the moment you see what they do 00:31:16
is all talk you've ever except service 00:31:20
and what happened it's been a long time 00:31:24
telling god what to do as if you didn't 00:31:26
know and a preacher gets up and tells 00:31:28
you what to do as you know you could 00:31:32
just do it like that be unselfish yeah 00:31:40
what why do you want to be unselfish are 00:31:43
this it because you want to have a 00:31:46
better opinion of yourself which is a 00:31:49
both selfish there's no way of making 00:31:52
yourself unselfish on purpose so I'd say 00:31:56
you must love me so all right so I'm 00:32:00
married to some time and my wife says to 00:32:03
me oh darling do you really about what I 00:32:06
say I'm trying my best to do so 00:32:06
so there's no point in telling people what to do if they don't have the power 00:32:15
to do it and in order that they have the 00:32:23
power to do it you've got to change 00:32:24
their state of consciousness and what 00:32:28
does that mean it means overcoming the 00:32:34
sense of alienation between the ego and 00:32:36
the rest of the universe so that you 00:32:41
feel one with nature and with society 00:32:47
instead of cut off factory made 00:32:52
chemicals do exactly that and of course 00:32:57
sometimes that is terrifying to people 00:32:59
because say under LXE it's very easy 00:33:03
indeed to get the impression of what you 00:33:05
do and what happens to you with the same 00:33:07
process very 00:33:11
that can be scary but when you suddenly 00:33:14
find that that was that the happening 00:33:17
going on you say who's in charge around 00:33:19
here 00:33:19
so you may think also love your God which are doing everything but that's a 00:33:24
terrible responsibility to be God was a 00:33:32
young man who turned himself in to the 00:33:33
Los Angeles police on a bad trip with a 00:33:36
note which said please help me 00:33:38
science Jehovah or else we may think the 00:33:44
opposite that you're simply a club with 00:33:47
no influence on anything but these are 00:33:51
two ways of looking at the same state of 00:33:53
consciousness and when this happens to a 00:34:00
person who doesn't know anything about 00:34:01
the psychology of religion they're as 00:34:04
scary as all get-out the will a person 00:34:08
does have some comprehension this is a 00:34:12
surrogate mystical experience like 00:34:14
swimming with water wounds and which he 00:34:19
finds enormously investment in surges 00:34:22
really for religious reasons fundamental 00:34:29
when people take consciousness changing 00:34:32
drugs fingers rather 00:34:32
someone might want some alchemy on Sunday morning is more Christianity in 00:34:43
the target in the church human 00:34:50
conviviality that Isis a 00:34:50
so well there are so many different angles to welcome mr. the chaplains will 00:35:01
never help in the problem so long as 00:35:09
they're just more Eliza's our religion 00:35:13
has to do something far more effective 00:35:15
in modernizing 00:35:15
what do you feel about this 00:35:34
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but the check [Laughter] 00:35:52
other than example into one right here you up 00:36:14
[Laughter] 00:36:17
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I don't know why not it wouldn't have to be organized necessarily let's go there 00:36:36
the country is in fact trying to work 00:36:41
one out dr. Watts doesn't the country 00:36:46
heaven 00:36:46
I don't know what it would be 00:36:54
and this has two carbons of spoiled Christianity and Judaism which for all 00:37:08
practical purposes garbage grandfather 00:37:18
not mentioned mama I mean I'm not 00:37:29
talking about happiness except maybe 00:37:32
people that kind of that doesn't affect 00:37:34
the country at large at all 00:37:34
I guess what I'm saying is that what I would say is it sure observantly in many 00:37:47
respects maybe we don't have a kind of 00:37:53
mobility but in reality there is a 00:37:58
credible religion there for anyone who 00:38:03
wants experience 00:38:03
what is 00:38:07
[Music] Christianity 00:38:16
yes but you see the difficulty is that that's your opinion and you say that 00:38:22
Christianity is the critical provision 00:38:28
in reality that most people don't know 00:38:31
about it 00:38:31
well likewise it's your opinion that it 00:38:34
is obviously positive because I think 00:38:42
one of the first days of visiting part 00:38:44
of the credible religion is that they've 00:38:46
come out frantic and say that all 00:38:48
authority is your own as you buy 00:38:48
in other words that you believe the Bible to be true and set it up as 00:38:59
authority whether you did it that was 00:39:05
the origin or if on the other hand like 00:39:08
Roman Catholic say what Protestants 00:39:10
believe their own ideas about the Bible 00:39:13
but we interpret the Bible by the 00:39:15
authority of the church and I've 00:39:17
searched a specific problem one step 00:39:19
back so you bought the authority of the 00:39:21
toilet 00:39:21
so long as you have an authoritarian system you're always deceiving yourself 00:39:27
if does authoritarian then we see what 00:39:34
let's see if you believe that God is authoritarian in the sense of the 00:39:41
monarch of the universe I don't see how 00:39:45
you could be loyal citizen of the 00:39:46
Republic of the United States believe 00:39:49
that the Republic is the best form of 00:39:50
government but because of the universal 00:39:53
monarchy obviously Monica is the best 00:39:53
- that's through the route of social structure in the United States school 00:40:02
which I would suppose to does that we 00:40:10
have a republic that means democracy in 00:40:12
the kingdom of heaven 00:40:13
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and that I would be considered subversive see this is the problem Jesus 00:40:23
man until he has cosmic consciousness he 00:40:35
knew he was one with God 00:40:37
Tom has proceeded to say that in the 00:40:39
context of Hebrew religion it's adopted 00:40:43
its picture of God which is incidentally 00:40:45
are elephants from the Pharaohs of Egypt 00:40:47
the most irises of pressure the biblical 00:40:51
God is the nearest in mark of the 00:40:54
ancient days king of kings and Lord of 00:40:57
lords as the title of the Persian answer 00:40:57
and the Church of England I happen to be an Anglican priest undercover feature 00:41:07
deaf 31st or mighty never last 00:41:18
dark the king of kings and Lords the 00:41:20
only ruler of princes dust from knights 00:41:24
from the old old dwellers upon earth 00:41:26
most awfully we deceive see with thy 00:41:28
favour to behold our sovereign Lady 00:41:31
Elizabeth the Queen and all the royal 00:41:32
family except for interpreter Martha 00:41:34
that's the language is called fabric and 00:41:42
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I mean although the president the United States has fostered the coming notes of 00:41:49
the Royal figure with are supposed to 00:41:55
have her appointed and the Constitution 00:41:59
of the United States derived sister a 00:42:01
great extent from the sinking of 00:42:04
Christian mystics from running from the 00:42:08
14th through the 17th centuries 00:42:12
including such groups as the Quakers the 00:42:15
Levellers the anabaptists the brothers 00:42:17
of the free spirit dog versus teaching 00:42:22
of the inward light garden 00:42:22
under so if Jesus had lived in India and said to you i am mafada I want everybody 00:42:32
would have city clothes 00:42:37
congratulations you found out 00:42:39
[Laughter] 00:42:39
yes the problem you see 00:42:57
Christianity made a mistake by claiming to be the only true religion or each the 00:43:06
best original top religion and people 00:43:12
claim this have never started the others 00:43:13
at all how can they possibly know 00:43:13
and it would be thought become a far more credible with it if it would admit 00:43:23
to being a member of the great 00:43:30
fraternity 00:43:30
and this is going to happen because now we've got Hindu Catholic priests 00:43:37
not a very interesting group of people they are 00:43:47
[Music] but I think you see the point is that 00:43:54
Kurt the real Christianity is not the 00:44:00
religion about Jesus for the religion 00:44:02
offices 00:44:02
and that the gospel is not a lot of talk about Jesus but captain arm - the 00:44:11
experience of Jesus his own inner 00:44:21
confidence supported in this way let 00:44:27
this mind be in you or that the state of 00:44:29
consciousness be in you which was also 00:44:31
in Christ Jesus who being in the form of 00:44:35
God thought not identity with garlic 00:44:38
thing to be grasped but humbled himself 00:44:41
and made himself of no reputation 00:44:43
McFarland's acting as a man and became 00:44:46
the beaten to death see so it's always 00:44:52
trying to say be in the same state of 00:44:55
consciousness with Christ I am crucified 00:44:59
with Christ nevertheless I live but not 00:45:01
i but Christ lives in me that comes out 00:45:04
- Christos another Christ and that means 00:45:09
an alteration in one state of 00:45:10
consciousness so for no longer this 00:45:13
miserable little ego 00:45:13
dr. an incarnation of God 00:45:16
and they're really different 00:45:25
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every day from experience instead of on talk and you remark to know that there 00:45:41
was 00:45:49
to achieve this yes it's my world ever so many manifestations of aversion all 00:45:57
sorts of directions especially among 00:46:00
young people this is a tremendous 00:46:04
awaiting an interest in oriental 00:46:06
philosophy and religion marked by the 00:46:09
sale of books which are a fairly 00:46:13
accurate standard of what's going on the 00:46:16
proliferation of cows after all in San 00:46:20
Francisco we have the biggest Zen 00:46:22
monastery in the world never seen and 00:46:31
all the yoga groups was yoga on 00:46:34
television let'em cost us apart with 00:46:39
university university california on 00:46:41
meditation Transcendental Meditation as 00:46:44
the scholars from taken on by millions 00:46:46
you can get credit for Kundalini Yoga UCLA and about the drug problem it's a 00:46:53
symptom of the same thing 00:47:01
[Laughter] 00:47:05
yes become very great because after all a young person's using of these fit 00:47:28
thoughtful sensitive today sees no 00:47:34
future look at all the pileup of 00:47:39
problems in one of which taken alone 00:47:41
would be appalling but this population 00:47:46
famine the bomb pollution destruction of 00:47:53
the environment deterioration of 00:47:58
products no we protect the eating 00:48:01
plastic Wonder Bread is undoubtedly 00:48:03
classy 00:48:03