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time is a very difficult thing to pin 00:00:31

time is a very difficult thing to pin 00:00:33

time is a very difficult thing to pin down as a famous saying of st. Augustine 00:00:33

down as a famous saying of st. Augustine 00:00:36

down as a famous saying of st. Augustine of Hippo that when he was asked what is 00:00:36

of Hippo that when he was asked what is 00:00:39

of Hippo that when he was asked what is time he said I know what it is but when 00:00:39

time he said I know what it is but when 00:00:42

time he said I know what it is but when you ask me I don't and yet it seems 00:00:42

you ask me I don't and yet it seems 00:00:47

you ask me I don't and yet it seems absolutely fundamental to our life time 00:00:47

absolutely fundamental to our life time 00:00:50

absolutely fundamental to our life time is money we say I don't have enough time 00:00:50

is money we say I don't have enough time 00:00:53

is money we say I don't have enough time time flies time drags and I think we 00:00:53

time flies time drags and I think we 00:00:59

time flies time drags and I think we should go into the question of what this 00:00:59

should go into the question of what this 00:01:00

should go into the question of what this is because in our ordinary common sense 00:01:00

is because in our ordinary common sense 00:01:03

is because in our ordinary common sense we think of time as a one-way motion 00:01:03

we think of time as a one-way motion 00:01:06

we think of time as a one-way motion from the past through the present and on 00:01:06

from the past through the present and on 00:01:10

from the past through the present and on into the future and that carries along 00:01:10

into the future and that carries along 00:01:14

into the future and that carries along with it another impression which is to 00:01:14

with it another impression which is to 00:01:17

with it another impression which is to say that life moves from the past to the 00:01:17

say that life moves from the past to the 00:01:22

say that life moves from the past to the future in such a way that what happens 00:01:22

future in such a way that what happens 00:01:26

future in such a way that what happens now and what will happen is always the 00:01:26

now and what will happen is always the 00:01:30

now and what will happen is always the result of what has happened in the past 00:01:30

result of what has happened in the past 00:01:33

result of what has happened in the past in other words we seem to be driven 00:01:33

in other words we seem to be driven 00:01:38

in other words we seem to be driven along you know once upon a time it was 00:01:38

along you know once upon a time it was 00:01:42

along you know once upon a time it was fashionable in psychology for people to 00:01:42

fashionable in psychology for people to 00:01:46

fashionable in psychology for people to speak of man's and animals instincts 00:01:46

speak of man's and animals instincts 00:01:49

speak of man's and animals instincts that we had for example an instinct for 00:01:49

that we had for example an instinct for 00:01:53

that we had for example an instinct for survival an instinct to make love and so 00:01:53

survival an instinct to make love and so 00:01:59

survival an instinct to make love and so on but nowadays that word has become 00:01:59

on but nowadays that word has become 00:02:02

on but nowadays that word has become unfashionable and psychologists tend 00:02:02

unfashionable and psychologists tend 00:02:05

unfashionable and psychologists tend instead to use the word drives and to 00:02:05

instead to use the word drives and to 00:02:09

instead to use the word drives and to speak of the need for food as a drive 00:02:09

speak of the need for food as a drive 00:02:12

speak of the need for food as a drive the need for survival or for sex as 00:02:12

the need for survival or for sex as 00:02:15

the need for survival or for sex as drives and that's a very significant 00:02:15

drives and that's a very significant 00:02:18

drives and that's a very significant word because it's brought out isn't it 00:02:18

word because it's brought out isn't it 00:02:20

word because it's brought out isn't it by people who feel driven I must say 00:02:20

by people who feel driven I must say 00:02:25

by people who feel driven I must say personally if I feel hungry 00:02:25

personally if I feel hungry 00:02:27

personally if I feel hungry I don't feel driven also if I feel lusty 00:02:27

I don't feel driven also if I feel lusty 00:02:31

I don't feel driven also if I feel lusty I don't feel driven because I don't say 00:02:31

I don't feel driven because I don't say 00:02:36

I don't feel driven because I don't say excuse me but I have to eat or excuse me 00:02:36

excuse me but I have to eat or excuse me 00:02:40

excuse me but I have to eat or excuse me but I need to fulfill my sexual urges my 00:02:40

but I need to fulfill my sexual urges my 00:02:42

but I need to fulfill my sexual urges my biological impulses I say hooray I 00:02:42

biological impulses I say hooray I 00:02:47

biological impulses I say hooray I identify myself with my drives their me 00:02:48

identify myself with my drives their me 00:02:52

identify myself with my drives their me and I don't take a passive attitude 00:02:52

and I don't take a passive attitude 00:02:55

and I don't take a passive attitude towards them and apologize for them so 00:02:55

towards them and apologize for them so 00:03:01

towards them and apologize for them so the whole idea of our being driven is 00:03:01

the whole idea of our being driven is 00:03:05

the whole idea of our being driven is connected with the idea of causality of 00:03:05

connected with the idea of causality of 00:03:09

connected with the idea of causality of life moving under the power of the past 00:03:09

life moving under the power of the past 00:03:16

life moving under the power of the past and that is so ingrained in our common 00:03:16

and that is so ingrained in our common 00:03:21

and that is so ingrained in our common sense that it's very difficult to get 00:03:22

sense that it's very difficult to get 00:03:23

sense that it's very difficult to get rid of it because I want to turn the 00:03:23

rid of it because I want to turn the 00:03:26

rid of it because I want to turn the thing round completely the other way and 00:03:26

thing round completely the other way and 00:03:28

thing round completely the other way and say that the past is the result of the 00:03:28

say that the past is the result of the 00:03:35

say that the past is the result of the present let us suppose just for the sake 00:03:35

present let us suppose just for the sake 00:03:38

present let us suppose just for the sake of example that this universe started 00:03:38

of example that this universe started 00:03:41

of example that this universe started with a big bang as some cosmologists 00:03:41

with a big bang as some cosmologists 00:03:44

with a big bang as some cosmologists believe now when that bang happened it 00:03:44

believe now when that bang happened it 00:03:48

believe now when that bang happened it was the present wasn't it and so the 00:03:48

was the present wasn't it and so the 00:03:55

was the present wasn't it and so the universe began in what we will call a 00:03:55

universe began in what we will call a 00:03:58

universe began in what we will call a now moment then it goes on doing its 00:03:58

now moment then it goes on doing its 00:04:04

now moment then it goes on doing its stuff and always when any event that we 00:04:04

stuff and always when any event that we 00:04:09

stuff and always when any event that we now called past came into being it came 00:04:09

now called past came into being it came 00:04:11

now called past came into being it came into being in the present and out of the 00:04:11

into being in the present and out of the 00:04:14

into being in the present and out of the present that's one way of seeing it but 00:04:14

present that's one way of seeing it but 00:04:21

present that's one way of seeing it but before we get further involved in this I 00:04:21

before we get further involved in this I 00:04:23

before we get further involved in this I want to draw your attention to a fallacy 00:04:23

want to draw your attention to a fallacy 00:04:26

want to draw your attention to a fallacy in the very common-sense idea of 00:04:26

in the very common-sense idea of 00:04:30

in the very common-sense idea of causality that events are caused by 00:04:30

causality that events are caused by 00:04:38

causality that events are caused by previous events from which they flow or 00:04:38

previous events from which they flow or 00:04:42

previous events from which they flow or result necessarily 00:04:42

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to understand the fallacy of that idea 00:04:47

to understand the fallacy of that idea 00:04:49

to understand the fallacy of that idea we have to begin by asking what do you 00:04:49

we have to begin by asking what do you 00:04:52

we have to begin by asking what do you mean by an event let's take the event of 00:04:52

mean by an event let's take the event of 00:04:57

mean by an event let's take the event of a human being coming into the world now 00:04:57

a human being coming into the world now 00:05:02

a human being coming into the world now when does that event begin does it occur 00:05:02

when does that event begin does it occur 00:05:06

when does that event begin does it occur at the moment of parturition when the 00:05:06

at the moment of parturition when the 00:05:09

at the moment of parturition when the baby actually comes out of its mother or 00:05:09

baby actually comes out of its mother or 00:05:13

baby actually comes out of its mother or does the baby begin at the moment of 00:05:13

does the baby begin at the moment of 00:05:16

does the baby begin at the moment of conception or does the baby begin when 00:05:16

conception or does the baby begin when 00:05:21

conception or does the baby begin when it was an evil gleam in its father's eye 00:05:21

it was an evil gleam in its father's eye 00:05:24

it was an evil gleam in its father's eye or does a baby begin when the 00:05:24

or does a baby begin when the 00:05:30

or does a baby begin when the spermatozoa are generated in the father 00:05:30

spermatozoa are generated in the father 00:05:35

spermatozoa are generated in the father or the ovum in the mother or could you 00:05:35

or the ovum in the mother or could you 00:05:39

or the ovum in the mother or could you say a baby begins when its father is 00:05:39

say a baby begins when its father is 00:05:41

say a baby begins when its father is born or when its mother is born all 00:05:41

born or when its mother is born all 00:05:44

born or when its mother is born all these things can be thought of as 00:05:44

these things can be thought of as 00:05:46

these things can be thought of as beginnings but we decide for purposes of 00:05:46

beginnings but we decide for purposes of 00:05:51

beginnings but we decide for purposes of legal registration that a life begins at 00:05:51

legal registration that a life begins at 00:05:54

legal registration that a life begins at the moment of parturition and that is a 00:05:54

the moment of parturition and that is a 00:05:56

the moment of parturition and that is a purely arbitrary decision and it has 00:05:56

purely arbitrary decision and it has 00:06:01

purely arbitrary decision and it has validity only because we all agree about 00:06:01

validity only because we all agree about 00:06:04

validity only because we all agree about it let me show you the same phenomenon 00:06:04

it let me show you the same phenomenon 00:06:09

it let me show you the same phenomenon in the dimension of space instead of the 00:06:09

in the dimension of space instead of the 00:06:12

in the dimension of space instead of the dimension of time let's ask how big is 00:06:12

dimension of time let's ask how big is 00:06:15

dimension of time let's ask how big is the Sun are we going to define the Sun 00:06:15

the Sun are we going to define the Sun 00:06:20

the Sun are we going to define the Sun as limited by the extent of its fire 00:06:20

as limited by the extent of its fire 00:06:28

as limited by the extent of its fire that's one possible definition but we 00:06:28

that's one possible definition but we 00:06:31

that's one possible definition but we could equally well define the sphere of 00:06:31

could equally well define the sphere of 00:06:34

could equally well define the sphere of the Sun by the extent of its heat we 00:06:34

the Sun by the extent of its heat we 00:06:38

the Sun by the extent of its heat we could also define the sphere of the Sun 00:06:38

could also define the sphere of the Sun 00:06:41

could also define the sphere of the Sun by the extent of its light and each of 00:06:41

by the extent of its light and each of 00:06:45

by the extent of its light and each of these would be reasonable choices except 00:06:45

these would be reasonable choices except 00:06:48

these would be reasonable choices except that it's rather difficult to keep track 00:06:48

that it's rather difficult to keep track 00:06:49

that it's rather difficult to keep track of the extent of its light because we're 00:06:49

of the extent of its light because we're 00:06:52

of the extent of its light because we're inside it and therefore we have 00:06:52

inside it and therefore we have 00:06:54

inside it and therefore we have arbitrarily agreed to define the Sun by 00:06:54

arbitrarily agreed to define the Sun by 00:06:58

arbitrarily agreed to define the Sun by the limit of its visible far 00:06:58

the limit of its visible far 00:07:01

the limit of its visible far but you will see in all these 00:07:01

but you will see in all these 00:07:04

but you will see in all these bye-bye-bye these analogies that how big 00:07:04

bye-bye-bye these analogies that how big 00:07:09

bye-bye-bye these analogies that how big a thing is or how long an event is is 00:07:09

a thing is or how long an event is is 00:07:13

a thing is or how long an event is is simply a matter of definition now 00:07:13

simply a matter of definition now 00:07:18

simply a matter of definition now therefore when by simple definition for 00:07:18

therefore when by simple definition for 00:07:21

therefore when by simple definition for purposes of discussion we have divided 00:07:21

purposes of discussion we have divided 00:07:25

purposes of discussion we have divided events into certain periods we'll say 00:07:25

events into certain periods we'll say 00:07:27

events into certain periods we'll say the first world war began in 1914 and it 00:07:27

the first world war began in 1914 and it 00:07:31

the first world war began in 1914 and it ended in 1918 now actually all those 00:07:31

ended in 1918 now actually all those 00:07:34

ended in 1918 now actually all those things which led up to the first world 00:07:34

things which led up to the first world 00:07:36

things which led up to the first world war started long before 1914 and the 00:07:36

war started long before 1914 and the 00:07:40

war started long before 1914 and the repercussions of that war have continued 00:07:40

repercussions of that war have continued 00:07:42

repercussions of that war have continued long beyond 1918 00:07:43

long beyond 1918 00:07:45

long beyond 1918 how are we to distinguish an event from 00:07:45

how are we to distinguish an event from 00:07:47

how are we to distinguish an event from its repercussions so you will see that 00:07:47

its repercussions so you will see that 00:07:51

its repercussions so you will see that because we have divided events from one 00:07:51

because we have divided events from one 00:07:55

because we have divided events from one another in this arbitrary way we do that 00:07:55

another in this arbitrary way we do that 00:07:58

another in this arbitrary way we do that and then we sort of forget we did it and 00:07:58

and then we sort of forget we did it and 00:08:02

and then we sort of forget we did it and then we have a puzzle how do events lead 00:08:02

then we have a puzzle how do events lead 00:08:06

then we have a puzzle how do events lead to each other because you see in reality 00:08:06

to each other because you see in reality 00:08:09

to each other because you see in reality there are no separate events life moves 00:08:09

there are no separate events life moves 00:08:14

there are no separate events life moves along like water and it's all connected 00:08:14

along like water and it's all connected 00:08:19

along like water and it's all connected as the source of a river is connected to 00:08:19

as the source of a river is connected to 00:08:21

as the source of a river is connected to the mouth and to the ocean and all the 00:08:21

the mouth and to the ocean and all the 00:08:26

the mouth and to the ocean and all the events or things going on are like 00:08:26

events or things going on are like 00:08:28

events or things going on are like whirlpools in the stream because you go 00:08:28

whirlpools in the stream because you go 00:08:32

whirlpools in the stream because you go there today and you see a whirlpool you 00:08:32

there today and you see a whirlpool you 00:08:34

there today and you see a whirlpool you go there tomorrow and you see a 00:08:34

go there tomorrow and you see a 00:08:36

go there tomorrow and you see a whirlpool but it isn't the same 00:08:36

whirlpool but it isn't the same 00:08:37

whirlpool but it isn't the same whirlpool because all the water is 00:08:37

whirlpool because all the water is 00:08:39

whirlpool because all the water is changing every second what is happening 00:08:39

changing every second what is happening 00:08:43

changing every second what is happening is not really what we should call a 00:08:43

is not really what we should call a 00:08:45

is not really what we should call a whirlpool but rather a wall pooling it 00:08:45

whirlpool but rather a wall pooling it 00:08:49

whirlpool but rather a wall pooling it is an activity not a thing and indeed 00:08:49

is an activity not a thing and indeed 00:08:53

is an activity not a thing and indeed every so-called thing can be called an 00:08:53

every so-called thing can be called an 00:08:56

every so-called thing can be called an event we call say a house housing we 00:08:56

event we call say a house housing we 00:09:02

event we call say a house housing we call a mat matting and we could equally 00:09:02

call a mat matting and we could equally 00:09:06

call a mat matting and we could equally call a cat a cat Inge so we could say 00:09:06

call a cat a cat Inge so we could say 00:09:09

call a cat a cat Inge so we could say the catting sat on the matting and we 00:09:09

the catting sat on the matting and we 00:09:12

the catting sat on the matting and we would thereby have a word 00:09:12

would thereby have a word 00:09:13

would thereby have a word in which there were no things but only 00:09:13

in which there were no things but only 00:09:15

in which there were no things but only events to give another illustration a 00:09:15

events to give another illustration a 00:09:18

events to give another illustration a flame is something we say there is a 00:09:18

flame is something we say there is a 00:09:21

flame is something we say there is a flame on the candle but it would be more 00:09:21

flame on the candle but it would be more 00:09:24

flame on the candle but it would be more correct to say there is a flaming on the 00:09:24

correct to say there is a flaming on the 00:09:27

correct to say there is a flaming on the candle because the flame is a stream of 00:09:27

candle because the flame is a stream of 00:09:29

candle because the flame is a stream of hot gas let's take another amusing 00:09:29

hot gas let's take another amusing 00:09:32

hot gas let's take another amusing example we say fist and fist is a noun 00:09:32

example we say fist and fist is a noun 00:09:36

example we say fist and fist is a noun and fist looks like a thing but suddenly 00:09:36

and fist looks like a thing but suddenly 00:09:39

and fist looks like a thing but suddenly what happens to the fist when I opened 00:09:39

what happens to the fist when I opened 00:09:41

what happens to the fist when I opened my hand 00:09:41

my hand 00:09:42

my hand see I was fisting now I'm handing 00:09:42

see I was fisting now I'm handing 00:09:48

see I was fisting now I'm handing handing it to you so every kind of 00:09:48

handing it to you so every kind of 00:09:52

handing it to you so every kind of so-called thing can be spoken of as an 00:09:52

so-called thing can be spoken of as an 00:09:54

so-called thing can be spoken of as an event and because events flow into each 00:09:54

event and because events flow into each 00:09:58

event and because events flow into each other the fisting flows into the handing 00:09:58

other the fisting flows into the handing 00:10:00

other the fisting flows into the handing we cannot say exactly where one ends and 00:10:00

we cannot say exactly where one ends and 00:10:04

we cannot say exactly where one ends and the other begins so therefore if we 00:10:04

the other begins so therefore if we 00:10:08

the other begins so therefore if we remember that we shall see that we do 00:10:08

remember that we shall see that we do 00:10:12

remember that we shall see that we do not need the idea of causality to 00:10:12

not need the idea of causality to 00:10:16

not need the idea of causality to explain how a prior event influences a 00:10:16

explain how a prior event influences a 00:10:21

explain how a prior event influences a following event because it's like this 00:10:21

following event because it's like this 00:10:24

following event because it's like this supposing I'm looking through a narrow 00:10:24

supposing I'm looking through a narrow 00:10:26

supposing I'm looking through a narrow slit in a fence and a snake goes by I've 00:10:26

slit in a fence and a snake goes by I've 00:10:34

slit in a fence and a snake goes by I've never seen a snake before and this is 00:10:34

never seen a snake before and this is 00:10:36

never seen a snake before and this is mysterious and I see through the slit in 00:10:36

mysterious and I see through the slit in 00:10:39

mysterious and I see through the slit in the fence first the snake's head then I 00:10:39

the fence first the snake's head then I 00:10:42

the fence first the snake's head then I see a long trailing body and then 00:10:42

see a long trailing body and then 00:10:47

see a long trailing body and then finally the tail I said well that was 00:10:47

finally the tail I said well that was 00:10:51

finally the tail I said well that was interesting 00:10:51

interesting 00:10:52

interesting then the snake turns round and goes back 00:10:52

then the snake turns round and goes back 00:10:54

then the snake turns round and goes back and again I see first the head and then 00:10:54

and again I see first the head and then 00:10:58

and again I see first the head and then after an interval the tail now if I call 00:10:58

after an interval the tail now if I call 00:11:01

after an interval the tail now if I call the head one event and the tail another 00:11:01

the head one event and the tail another 00:11:03

the head one event and the tail another it will seem to me that the event head 00:11:03

it will seem to me that the event head 00:11:06

it will seem to me that the event head is the cause of the event tail and the 00:11:06

is the cause of the event tail and the 00:11:11

is the cause of the event tail and the tail is the effect but if I look at the 00:11:11

tail is the effect but if I look at the 00:11:15

tail is the effect but if I look at the whole snake I will see a head tailed 00:11:15

whole snake I will see a head tailed 00:11:18

whole snake I will see a head tailed snake and it would be simply absurd to 00:11:18

snake and it would be simply absurd to 00:11:21

snake and it would be simply absurd to say that the head of the snake is the 00:11:21

say that the head of the snake is the 00:11:23

say that the head of the snake is the cause of the tail as if the head cave me 00:11:23

cause of the tail as if the head cave me 00:11:26

cause of the tail as if the head cave me is if the snake came in 00:11:26

is if the snake came in 00:11:27

is if the snake came in being first the head and then the tail 00:11:27

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the snake comes into being out of its 00:11:31

the snake comes into being out of its 00:11:35

the snake comes into being out of its egg as a head tailed snake and so in 00:11:35

egg as a head tailed snake and so in 00:11:39

egg as a head tailed snake and so in exactly the same way all events are 00:11:39

exactly the same way all events are 00:11:43

exactly the same way all events are really one event we are looking when we 00:11:43

really one event we are looking when we 00:11:46

really one event we are looking when we talk about different events we're 00:11:46

talk about different events we're 00:11:48

talk about different events we're looking at different sections or parts 00:11:48

looking at different sections or parts 00:11:50

looking at different sections or parts of one continuous happening and 00:11:50

of one continuous happening and 00:11:55

of one continuous happening and therefore the idea of separate events 00:11:55

therefore the idea of separate events 00:12:01

therefore the idea of separate events which have to be linked by a mysterious 00:12:01

which have to be linked by a mysterious 00:12:03

which have to be linked by a mysterious process called cause and effect is 00:12:03

process called cause and effect is 00:12:06

process called cause and effect is completely unnecessary 00:12:06

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but having thought that way we think of 00:12:09

but having thought that way we think of 00:12:14

but having thought that way we think of present events as being caused by past 00:12:14

present events as being caused by past 00:12:18

present events as being caused by past events and therefore we tend to regard 00:12:18

events and therefore we tend to regard 00:12:21

events and therefore we tend to regard ourselves as the puppets of the past as 00:12:21

ourselves as the puppets of the past as 00:12:26

ourselves as the puppets of the past as driven along by something that is always 00:12:26

driven along by something that is always 00:12:29

driven along by something that is always behind us now to overcome this 00:12:29

behind us now to overcome this 00:12:36

behind us now to overcome this impression it's very simple you begin 00:12:36

impression it's very simple you begin 00:12:40

impression it's very simple you begin again with an experiment which I 00:12:40

again with an experiment which I 00:12:42

again with an experiment which I suggested in a previous talk about 00:12:42

suggested in a previous talk about 00:12:46

suggested in a previous talk about meditation approach the world through 00:12:46

meditation approach the world through 00:12:50

meditation approach the world through your ears if you shut your eyes and make 00:12:50

your ears if you shut your eyes and make 00:12:57

your ears if you shut your eyes and make contact with reality purely with your 00:12:57

contact with reality purely with your 00:13:00

contact with reality purely with your ears I mean it's kind of silly perhaps 00:13:00

ears I mean it's kind of silly perhaps 00:13:02

ears I mean it's kind of silly perhaps to shut your eyes when you're looking at 00:13:02

to shut your eyes when you're looking at 00:13:04

to shut your eyes when you're looking at television but do it just for a moment 00:13:04

television but do it just for a moment 00:13:06

television but do it just for a moment and you will realize that the sounds you 00:13:06

and you will realize that the sounds you 00:13:10

and you will realize that the sounds you are hearing are all coming out of 00:13:10

are hearing are all coming out of 00:13:14

are hearing are all coming out of silence you hear 00:13:14

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and it fades away fades fades fades 00:13:19

and it fades away fades fades fades 00:13:24

and it fades away fades fades fades fades and finally disappears it's a 00:13:24

fades and finally disappears it's a 00:13:30

fades and finally disappears it's a curious world this isn't it because you 00:13:30

curious world this isn't it because you 00:13:32

curious world this isn't it because you hear all the realities in it the sounds 00:13:32

hear all the realities in it the sounds 00:13:35

hear all the realities in it the sounds suddenly coming out of nothing you don't 00:13:35

suddenly coming out of nothing you don't 00:13:39

suddenly coming out of nothing you don't see any reason for them to begin they 00:13:39

see any reason for them to begin they 00:13:42

see any reason for them to begin they just appear and then they echo away 00:13:42

just appear and then they echo away 00:13:44

just appear and then they echo away through the corridors of the mind which 00:13:44

through the corridors of the mind which 00:13:47

through the corridors of the mind which we call memory now if you open your eyes 00:13:47

we call memory now if you open your eyes 00:13:53

we call memory now if you open your eyes it's a little harder to see this with 00:13:53

it's a little harder to see this with 00:13:56

it's a little harder to see this with your eyes because unlike sounds the eyes 00:13:56

your eyes because unlike sounds the eyes 00:14:00

your eyes because unlike sounds the eyes sound static or rather they look static 00:14:00

sound static or rather they look static 00:14:08

sound static or rather they look static everything looks still to your eyes but 00:14:08

everything looks still to your eyes but 00:14:11

everything looks still to your eyes but you must understand that the world you 00:14:11

you must understand that the world you 00:14:15

you must understand that the world you are looking at say when you look at a 00:14:15

are looking at say when you look at a 00:14:16

are looking at say when you look at a light that light is vibrating all 00:14:16

light that light is vibrating all 00:14:20

light that light is vibrating all material things are vibrations and they 00:14:20

material things are vibrations and they 00:14:23

material things are vibrations and they are vibrating at you now in the same way 00:14:23

are vibrating at you now in the same way 00:14:26

are vibrating at you now in the same way as the sound was vibrating on your ears 00:14:26

as the sound was vibrating on your ears 00:14:29

as the sound was vibrating on your ears in other words the present world that 00:14:29

in other words the present world that 00:14:33

in other words the present world that you see is a vibration coming just as 00:14:33

you see is a vibration coming just as 00:14:38

you see is a vibration coming just as the sound comes out of silence 00:14:38

the sound comes out of silence 00:14:39

the sound comes out of silence the light is coming out of space it's 00:14:39

the light is coming out of space it's 00:14:43

the light is coming out of space it's coming out of nothing straight at you 00:14:43

coming out of nothing straight at you 00:14:45

coming out of nothing straight at you now and echoing away into the past so 00:14:45

now and echoing away into the past so 00:14:50

now and echoing away into the past so the course of time is really very much 00:14:50

the course of time is really very much 00:14:54

the course of time is really very much like the course of a ship in the ocean 00:14:54

like the course of a ship in the ocean 00:14:58

like the course of a ship in the ocean because here's the ship you see and it 00:14:58

because here's the ship you see and it 00:15:02

because here's the ship you see and it leaves behind it awake 00:15:02

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and the wake fades out and that tells us 00:15:10

and the wake fades out and that tells us 00:15:18

and the wake fades out and that tells us where the ship has been in just the same 00:15:18

where the ship has been in just the same 00:15:23

where the ship has been in just the same way as the past and our memory of the 00:15:23

way as the past and our memory of the 00:15:26

way as the past and our memory of the past tells us what we have done but as 00:15:26

past tells us what we have done but as 00:15:29

past tells us what we have done but as we go back into the past and we go back 00:15:29

we go back into the past and we go back 00:15:32

we go back into the past and we go back and back to prehistory and we use all 00:15:32

and back to prehistory and we use all 00:15:34

and back to prehistory and we use all kinds of instruments and scientific 00:15:34

kinds of instruments and scientific 00:15:37

kinds of instruments and scientific methods for detecting what happened we 00:15:37

methods for detecting what happened we 00:15:39

methods for detecting what happened we eventually reach a point where all 00:15:39

eventually reach a point where all 00:15:42

eventually reach a point where all record of the past fades away in just 00:15:42

record of the past fades away in just 00:15:45

record of the past fades away in just the same way as the wake of the ship now 00:15:45

the same way as the wake of the ship now 00:15:49

the same way as the wake of the ship now the important thing to remember in this 00:15:49

the important thing to remember in this 00:15:51

the important thing to remember in this illustration is that the wake doesn't 00:15:51

illustration is that the wake doesn't 00:15:54

illustration is that the wake doesn't drive the ship any more than the tail 00:15:54

drive the ship any more than the tail 00:15:57

drive the ship any more than the tail wags the dog especially there's a 00:15:57

wags the dog especially there's a 00:16:04

wags the dog especially there's a neurotic difficult child and one school 00:16:04

neurotic difficult child and one school 00:16:09

neurotic difficult child and one school of thought used to say well bang him 00:16:09

of thought used to say well bang him 00:16:11

of thought used to say well bang him about beat him up and maybe he'll change 00:16:11

about beat him up and maybe he'll change 00:16:13

about beat him up and maybe he'll change but then they said oh no it's not fair 00:16:13

but then they said oh no it's not fair 00:16:16

but then they said oh no it's not fair to the child to beat him up because it 00:16:16

to the child to beat him up because it 00:16:18

to the child to beat him up because it was his parents they didn't bring him up 00:16:18

was his parents they didn't bring him up 00:16:20

was his parents they didn't bring him up properly and so then they say well 00:16:20

properly and so then they say well 00:16:22

properly and so then they say well punish the parents well the parents say 00:16:22

punish the parents well the parents say 00:16:23

punish the parents well the parents say excuse me but I'm our parents when Urata 00:16:23

excuse me but I'm our parents when Urata 00:16:26

excuse me but I'm our parents when Urata - and they brought us up badly so we 00:16:26

- and they brought us up badly so we 00:16:28

- and they brought us up badly so we couldn't help what we did and so since 00:16:28

couldn't help what we did and so since 00:16:31

couldn't help what we did and so since the grandparents are dead we can't get 00:16:31

the grandparents are dead we can't get 00:16:32

the grandparents are dead we can't get at them and in any case supposing we 00:16:32

at them and in any case supposing we 00:16:34

at them and in any case supposing we could we would pass the whole blame back 00:16:34

could we would pass the whole blame back 00:16:36

could we would pass the whole blame back to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden 00:16:36

to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden 00:16:38

to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and they'd say so they started all this 00:16:38

and they'd say so they started all this 00:16:40

and they'd say so they started all this mess but then Eve would say no yeah the 00:16:40

mess but then Eve would say no yeah the 00:16:44

mess but then Eve would say no yeah the serpent tempted me and I did eat and it 00:16:44

serpent tempted me and I did eat and it 00:16:46

serpent tempted me and I did eat and it was the Serpent's fault 00:16:46

was the Serpent's fault 00:16:47

was the Serpent's fault well you know when God in the story of 00:16:47

well you know when God in the story of 00:16:51

well you know when God in the story of Genesis asked Eve didst thou eat the 00:16:51

Genesis asked Eve didst thou eat the 00:16:55

Genesis asked Eve didst thou eat the fruit of the tree we're off I told thee 00:16:55

fruit of the tree we're off I told thee 00:16:57

fruit of the tree we're off I told thee thou should not eat she said old with 00:16:57

thou should not eat she said old with 00:16:59

thou should not eat she said old with the serpent tempted me and I did eat and 00:16:59

the serpent tempted me and I did eat and 00:17:02

the serpent tempted me and I did eat and God looked at the serpent and the 00:17:02

God looked at the serpent and the 00:17:03

God looked at the serpent and the serpent didn't make any excuse he 00:17:03

serpent didn't make any excuse he 00:17:05

serpent didn't make any excuse he probably winked because 00:17:05

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the serpent being an angel was wise 00:17:12

the serpent being an angel was wise 00:17:16

the serpent being an angel was wise enough to know where the present begins 00:17:16

enough to know where the present begins 00:17:19

enough to know where the present begins so you see if you insist on being moved 00:17:19

so you see if you insist on being moved 00:17:25

so you see if you insist on being moved being determined by the past that's your 00:17:25

being determined by the past that's your 00:17:29

being determined by the past that's your game but the fact of the matter is it 00:17:29

game but the fact of the matter is it 00:17:32

game but the fact of the matter is it all starts right now but we like to 00:17:32

all starts right now but we like to 00:17:36

all starts right now but we like to establish a connectivity with the past 00:17:36

establish a connectivity with the past 00:17:41

establish a connectivity with the past because that gives other people the 00:17:42

because that gives other people the 00:17:45

because that gives other people the impression that we're saying if you ask 00:17:45

impression that we're saying if you ask 00:17:49

impression that we're saying if you ask me then why am i talking well I could 00:17:49

me then why am i talking well I could 00:17:52

me then why am i talking well I could say I'm making a living this way or I 00:17:52

say I'm making a living this way or I 00:17:54

say I'm making a living this way or I have a message that I want to get across 00:17:54

have a message that I want to get across 00:17:55

have a message that I want to get across to you but that's not the reason I'm 00:17:55

to you but that's not the reason I'm 00:17:59

to you but that's not the reason I'm talking for the same reason that birds 00:17:59

talking for the same reason that birds 00:18:00

talking for the same reason that birds sing and for the same reason that the 00:18:00

sing and for the same reason that the 00:18:02

sing and for the same reason that the stars shine is I I dig it 00:18:02

stars shine is I I dig it 00:18:05

stars shine is I I dig it why do you dig it well I could go on 00:18:05

why do you dig it well I could go on 00:18:09

why do you dig it well I could go on answering all sorts of questions about 00:18:09

answering all sorts of questions about 00:18:12

answering all sorts of questions about human motivation and psychology but they 00:18:12

human motivation and psychology but they 00:18:14

human motivation and psychology but they wouldn't explain a thing because 00:18:14

wouldn't explain a thing because 00:18:16

wouldn't explain a thing because explaining things by the past is really 00:18:16

explaining things by the past is really 00:18:18

explaining things by the past is really a refusal to explain them at all all 00:18:18

a refusal to explain them at all all 00:18:21

a refusal to explain them at all all you're doing is postponing the 00:18:21

you're doing is postponing the 00:18:22

you're doing is postponing the explanation you're putting it back and 00:18:22

explanation you're putting it back and 00:18:24

explanation you're putting it back and back and back and back and that explains 00:18:24

back and back and back and that explains 00:18:26

back and back and back and that explains nothing what does explain things is the 00:18:26

nothing what does explain things is the 00:18:33

nothing what does explain things is the present why do you do it now now this is 00:18:33

present why do you do it now now this is 00:18:41

present why do you do it now now this is a slight cheat because that doesn't 00:18:41

a slight cheat because that doesn't 00:18:43

a slight cheat because that doesn't explain it either because what happens 00:18:43

explain it either because what happens 00:18:46

explain it either because what happens now just as the sound comes out of 00:18:46

now just as the sound comes out of 00:18:48

now just as the sound comes out of silence all this comes out of nowhere 00:18:48

silence all this comes out of nowhere 00:18:51

silence all this comes out of nowhere this is in connection with what I 00:18:51

this is in connection with what I 00:18:54

this is in connection with what I explained to you in another talk about 00:18:54

explained to you in another talk about 00:18:56

explained to you in another talk about the power of nothingness all life 00:18:56

the power of nothingness all life 00:18:58

the power of nothingness all life suddenly emerges out of space bang right 00:18:58

suddenly emerges out of space bang right 00:19:01

suddenly emerges out of space bang right now and to ask again why does it happen 00:19:01

now and to ask again why does it happen 00:19:07

now and to ask again why does it happen is an unprofitable question because the 00:19:07

is an unprofitable question because the 00:19:11

is an unprofitable question because the interesting thing is not why but what 00:19:11

interesting thing is not why but what 00:19:13

interesting thing is not why but what what happens not why does it happen I 00:19:13

what happens not why does it happen I 00:19:17

what happens not why does it happen I can say well I am doing this now because 00:19:17

can say well I am doing this now because 00:19:22

can say well I am doing this now because I did that then 00:19:22

I did that then 00:19:24

I did that then and so I am producing for you a 00:19:24

and so I am producing for you a 00:19:27

and so I am producing for you a continuous line of thought but actually 00:19:27

continuous line of thought but actually 00:19:31

continuous line of thought but actually I'm doing it backwards I'm doing it 00:19:31

I'm doing it backwards I'm doing it 00:19:34

I'm doing it backwards I'm doing it always from now and connecting up what I 00:19:34

always from now and connecting up what I 00:19:37

always from now and connecting up what I do now with what I did so that you can 00:19:37

do now with what I did so that you can 00:19:40

do now with what I did so that you can conceive a consistent story if I define 00:19:40

conceive a consistent story if I define 00:19:46

conceive a consistent story if I define myself as the whole field of events 00:19:46

myself as the whole field of events 00:19:48

myself as the whole field of events we'll say the organism environment field 00:19:48

we'll say the organism environment field 00:19:51

we'll say the organism environment field which is the real me 00:19:51

which is the real me 00:19:52

which is the real me then all the things that happen to me 00:19:52

then all the things that happen to me 00:19:55

then all the things that happen to me may be called 00:19:55

may be called 00:19:56

may be called my doing and that is the real sense of 00:19:56

my doing and that is the real sense of 00:19:59

my doing and that is the real sense of karma but when we speak about freedom 00:19:59

karma but when we speak about freedom 00:20:02

karma but when we speak about freedom from karma freedom from being the puppet 00:20:02

from karma freedom from being the puppet 00:20:06

from karma freedom from being the puppet of the past that simply involves a 00:20:06

of the past that simply involves a 00:20:07

of the past that simply involves a change in your thinking it involves in 00:20:07

change in your thinking it involves in 00:20:11

change in your thinking it involves in other words you are getting rid of the 00:20:11

other words you are getting rid of the 00:20:15

other words you are getting rid of the habit of thought whereby you define 00:20:15

habit of thought whereby you define 00:20:18

habit of thought whereby you define yourself as the result of what has gone 00:20:18

yourself as the result of what has gone 00:20:20

yourself as the result of what has gone before 00:20:20

before 00:20:21

before and instead get into the more plausible 00:20:21

and instead get into the more plausible 00:20:25

and instead get into the more plausible and more reasonable habit of thought in 00:20:25

and more reasonable habit of thought in 00:20:27

and more reasonable habit of thought in terms of which you don't define yourself 00:20:27

terms of which you don't define yourself 00:20:30

terms of which you don't define yourself in terms of what you've done before but 00:20:30

in terms of what you've done before but 00:20:31

in terms of what you've done before but in terms of what you're doing now and 00:20:31

in terms of what you're doing now and 00:20:34

in terms of what you're doing now and that is liberation from the ridiculous 00:20:34

that is liberation from the ridiculous 00:20:38

that is liberation from the ridiculous situation of being a dog wagged by its 00:20:38

situation of being a dog wagged by its 00:20:41

situation of being a dog wagged by its tail 00:20:41

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tonight I want to tell you three 00:20:54

tonight I want to tell you three 00:20:57

tonight I want to tell you three fantasies all of which have something in 00:20:57

fantasies all of which have something in 00:21:00

fantasies all of which have something in common 00:21:00

common 00:21:01

common the first fantasy about is about 00:21:01

the first fantasy about is about 00:21:04

the first fantasy about is about reproduction we use the word 00:21:04

reproduction we use the word 00:21:08

reproduction we use the word reproduction in two principal ways when 00:21:08

reproduction in two principal ways when 00:21:12

reproduction in two principal ways when we talk about the biological 00:21:12

we talk about the biological 00:21:13

we talk about the biological reproduction of the species and when we 00:21:13

reproduction of the species and when we 00:21:17

reproduction of the species and when we talk about making a good reproduction of 00:21:17

talk about making a good reproduction of 00:21:20

talk about making a good reproduction of something in terms of a painting a 00:21:20

something in terms of a painting a 00:21:23

something in terms of a painting a photograph or a recording or a videotape 00:21:23

photograph or a recording or a videotape 00:21:28

photograph or a recording or a videotape and what is all this about reproduction 00:21:28

and what is all this about reproduction 00:21:31

and what is all this about reproduction in that direction hundreds of years ago 00:21:31

in that direction hundreds of years ago 00:21:36

in that direction hundreds of years ago kings of Europe who wanted to form 00:21:36

kings of Europe who wanted to form 00:21:41

kings of Europe who wanted to form feudal alliances by marrying the 00:21:41

feudal alliances by marrying the 00:21:44

feudal alliances by marrying the princesses of far-off States would have 00:21:44

princesses of far-off States would have 00:21:47

princesses of far-off States would have painters send portraits of the lady in 00:21:47

painters send portraits of the lady in 00:21:49

painters send portraits of the lady in question to see if his Majesty approved 00:21:49

question to see if his Majesty approved 00:21:52

question to see if his Majesty approved of her before he got her and there's a 00:21:52

of her before he got her and there's a 00:21:55

of her before he got her and there's a famous story in which Henry the eighth 00:21:55

famous story in which Henry the eighth 00:21:57

famous story in which Henry the eighth of England was badly cheated in this 00:21:57

of England was badly cheated in this 00:21:59

of England was badly cheated in this respect by a too flattering portrait of 00:21:59

respect by a too flattering portrait of 00:22:02

respect by a too flattering portrait of Anne of Cleves and their father grew up 00:22:02

Anne of Cleves and their father grew up 00:22:06

Anne of Cleves and their father grew up a kind of morale among artists in the 00:22:06

a kind of morale among artists in the 00:22:09

a kind of morale among artists in the European tradition to make faithful 00:22:09

European tradition to make faithful 00:22:12

European tradition to make faithful reproductions of people and they 00:22:12

reproductions of people and they 00:22:14

reproductions of people and they perfected their technique beginning with 00:22:14

perfected their technique beginning with 00:22:16

perfected their technique beginning with the marvelous work of the Renaissance 00:22:16

the marvelous work of the Renaissance 00:22:18

the marvelous work of the Renaissance painters and the Flemish painters and 00:22:18

painters and the Flemish painters and 00:22:21

painters and the Flemish painters and going on finally to what was called art 00:22:21

going on finally to what was called art 00:22:25

going on finally to what was called art officiel in the 19th century we got what 00:22:25

officiel in the 19th century we got what 00:22:28

officiel in the 19th century we got what we now call photographic realism but 00:22:28

we now call photographic realism but 00:22:32

we now call photographic realism but then they said isn't the some more 00:22:32

then they said isn't the some more 00:22:36

then they said isn't the some more scientific way of doing this and so they 00:22:36

scientific way of doing this and so they 00:22:39

scientific way of doing this and so they discovered the camera and first of all 00:22:39

discovered the camera and first of all 00:22:43

discovered the camera and first of all the way you know remember those brownish 00:22:43

the way you know remember those brownish 00:22:45

the way you know remember those brownish daguerreotype and people said well that 00:22:45

daguerreotype and people said well that 00:22:48

daguerreotype and people said well that is pretty it really looks like grandpa 00:22:48

is pretty it really looks like grandpa 00:22:51

is pretty it really looks like grandpa doesn't it and then they said but some 00:22:51

doesn't it and then they said but some 00:22:54

doesn't it and then they said but some things are there several things missing 00:22:54

things are there several things missing 00:22:56

things are there several things missing it isn't colored so first of all they 00:22:56

it isn't colored so first of all they 00:22:59

it isn't colored so first of all they tinted them 00:22:59

tinted them 00:23:01

tinted them and then they said oh it's real 00:23:01

and then they said oh it's real 00:23:04

and then they said oh it's real life-like but then they went on to say 00:23:04

life-like but then they went on to say 00:23:08

life-like but then they went on to say but you know there are some people whose 00:23:08

but you know there are some people whose 00:23:10

but you know there are some people whose whole style of life whose personality is 00:23:10

whole style of life whose personality is 00:23:13

whole style of life whose personality is in the way they move and if you just 00:23:13

in the way they move and if you just 00:23:16

in the way they move and if you just take a static shot like that the 00:23:16

take a static shot like that the 00:23:22

take a static shot like that the personality isn't there it's away they 00:23:22

personality isn't there it's away they 00:23:24

personality isn't there it's away they go 00:23:24

go 00:23:25

go so they said we gotta have some way of 00:23:25

so they said we gotta have some way of 00:23:27

so they said we gotta have some way of making people move so they invented the 00:23:27

making people move so they invented the 00:23:32

making people move so they invented the movies and I remember when the first 00:23:32

movies and I remember when the first 00:23:35

movies and I remember when the first movies came out they were all going 00:23:35

movies came out they were all going 00:23:39

movies came out they were all going everybody was going you know in a jokey 00:23:39

everybody was going you know in a jokey 00:23:41

everybody was going you know in a jokey way then they smoothed it out and they 00:23:41

way then they smoothed it out and they 00:23:43

way then they smoothed it out and they said ah that's real life-like but they 00:23:43

said ah that's real life-like but they 00:23:47

said ah that's real life-like but they said then but here's another thing about 00:23:47

said then but here's another thing about 00:23:48

said then but here's another thing about reproducing people which is that they 00:23:48

reproducing people which is that they 00:23:53

reproducing people which is that they talked and a whole lot of their 00:23:53

talked and a whole lot of their 00:23:54

talked and a whole lot of their personality is in the voice so can't we 00:23:54

personality is in the voice so can't we 00:23:57

personality is in the voice so can't we have them talking at the same time that 00:23:57

have them talking at the same time that 00:24:00

have them talking at the same time that they move so they invented the talkies 00:24:00

they move so they invented the talkies 00:24:03

they move so they invented the talkies and then to get it more lifelike still 00:24:03

and then to get it more lifelike still 00:24:08

and then to get it more lifelike still they colored them they said Wow 00:24:08

they colored them they said Wow 00:24:11

they colored them they said Wow now we're really getting somewhere then 00:24:11

now we're really getting somewhere then 00:24:16

now we're really getting somewhere then to make it even more real they put it in 00:24:16

to make it even more real they put it in 00:24:20

to make it even more real they put it in 3d and you had to wear sort of 00:24:20

3d and you had to wear sort of 00:24:22

3d and you had to wear sort of spectacles over your face to see it that 00:24:22

spectacles over your face to see it that 00:24:25

spectacles over your face to see it that way but then they went on to say why is 00:24:25

way but then they went on to say why is 00:24:28

way but then they went on to say why is it that every time we want to see one of 00:24:28

it that every time we want to see one of 00:24:30

it that every time we want to see one of these things we have to go down to the 00:24:30

these things we have to go down to the 00:24:33

these things we have to go down to the center of town can't we have it all at 00:24:33

center of town can't we have it all at 00:24:35

center of town can't we have it all at home and so television came on and in 00:24:35

home and so television came on and in 00:24:39

home and so television came on and in television they first of all started out 00:24:39

television they first of all started out 00:24:41

television they first of all started out with black and white and it was kind of 00:24:41

with black and white and it was kind of 00:24:43

with black and white and it was kind of like Robert Benchley once described the 00:24:43

like Robert Benchley once described the 00:24:46

like Robert Benchley once described the cuts in French newspapers as all looking 00:24:46

cuts in French newspapers as all looking 00:24:48

cuts in French newspapers as all looking as if they had been made on bread 00:24:48

as if they had been made on bread 00:24:50

as if they had been made on bread well that was television in a certain 00:24:50

well that was television in a certain 00:24:52

well that was television in a certain period and then they improved it and 00:24:52

period and then they improved it and 00:24:55

period and then they improved it and then they colored it and that's where we 00:24:55

then they colored it and that's where we 00:24:57

then they colored it and that's where we are now not quite because somebody has 00:24:57

are now not quite because somebody has 00:25:01

are now not quite because somebody has come out with the thing that we shall 00:25:01

come out with the thing that we shall 00:25:02

come out with the thing that we shall all be seeing soon which is the hologram 00:25:02

all be seeing soon which is the hologram 00:25:05

all be seeing soon which is the hologram a television image produced by laser 00:25:05

a television image produced by laser 00:25:09

a television image produced by laser beams where you see a three-dimensional 00:25:09

beams where you see a three-dimensional 00:25:13

beams where you see a three-dimensional figure 00:25:13

figure 00:25:14

figure out in the air in front of you isn't 00:25:14

out in the air in front of you isn't 00:25:18

out in the air in front of you isn't that marvelous and then but of course 00:25:18

that marvelous and then but of course 00:25:25

that marvelous and then but of course when you go up to it and you put your 00:25:25

when you go up to it and you put your 00:25:26

when you go up to it and you put your hand on it your hand goes right through 00:25:26

hand on it your hand goes right through 00:25:28

hand on it your hand goes right through it you can't touch it and you see that 00:25:28

it you can't touch it and you see that 00:25:32

it you can't touch it and you see that was always the trouble with television 00:25:32

was always the trouble with television 00:25:34

was always the trouble with television because you look at whatever you're 00:25:34

because you look at whatever you're 00:25:36

because you look at whatever you're seeing behind the screen it's intangible 00:25:36

seeing behind the screen it's intangible 00:25:40

seeing behind the screen it's intangible it doesn't smell and it won't relate to 00:25:40

it doesn't smell and it won't relate to 00:25:44

it doesn't smell and it won't relate to you so these are further problems that 00:25:44

you so these are further problems that 00:25:47

you so these are further problems that we solved in the techniques of 00:25:47

we solved in the techniques of 00:25:50

we solved in the techniques of electronic reproduction and they'll do 00:25:50

electronic reproduction and they'll do 00:25:52

electronic reproduction and they'll do it they are first of all manager way in 00:25:52

it they are first of all manager way in 00:25:55

it they are first of all manager way in which the electronic emission sources 00:25:55

which the electronic emission sources 00:25:59

which the electronic emission sources can solidify and make the air vibrate so 00:25:59

can solidify and make the air vibrate so 00:26:04

can solidify and make the air vibrate so that you go up and you'll touch the 00:26:04

that you go up and you'll touch the 00:26:06

that you go up and you'll touch the figure and you won't be able to push 00:26:06

figure and you won't be able to push 00:26:08

figure and you won't be able to push your hand through it because the air 00:26:08

your hand through it because the air 00:26:11

your hand through it because the air will be going faster than your hand 00:26:11

00:26:16

imagine that you can actually if there's 00:26:16

imagine that you can actually if there's 00:26:20

imagine that you can actually if there's a beautiful dancer on the television 00:26:20

a beautiful dancer on the television 00:26:22

a beautiful dancer on the television you'll be able to go up and embrace her 00:26:22

you'll be able to go up and embrace her 00:26:24

you'll be able to go up and embrace her but she won't know you're there and she 00:26:24

but she won't know you're there and she 00:26:27

but she won't know you're there and she won't respond to you and you'll say well 00:26:27

won't respond to you and you'll say well 00:26:29

won't respond to you and you'll say well that's not very lifelike just as they 00:26:29

that's not very lifelike just as they 00:26:31

that's not very lifelike just as they once said yeah if the photograph doesn't 00:26:31

once said yeah if the photograph doesn't 00:26:33

once said yeah if the photograph doesn't move it's not very lifelike if it 00:26:33

move it's not very lifelike if it 00:26:35

move it's not very lifelike if it doesn't talk it's not very lifelike 00:26:35

doesn't talk it's not very lifelike 00:26:37

doesn't talk it's not very lifelike they'll next say if the reproduction in 00:26:37

they'll next say if the reproduction in 00:26:39

they'll next say if the reproduction in three dimensions solid doesn't respond 00:26:39

three dimensions solid doesn't respond 00:26:41

three dimensions solid doesn't respond it's not very lifelike so they'll have 00:26:41

it's not very lifelike so they'll have 00:26:43

it's not very lifelike so they'll have to figure out a technique for doing that 00:26:43

to figure out a technique for doing that 00:26:46

to figure out a technique for doing that what will they do well I tell you 00:26:46

what will they do well I tell you 00:26:50

what will they do well I tell you sitting in your home where you are 00:26:50

sitting in your home where you are 00:26:53

sitting in your home where you are watching the scene on a kind of stage 00:26:53

watching the scene on a kind of stage 00:26:55

watching the scene on a kind of stage now not on a screen there will be a TV 00:26:55

now not on a screen there will be a TV 00:26:58

now not on a screen there will be a TV camera observing you and that TV camera 00:26:58

camera observing you and that TV camera 00:27:03

camera observing you and that TV camera will report back everything you do into 00:27:03

will report back everything you do into 00:27:05

will report back everything you do into a computer and the computer will so 00:27:05

a computer and the computer will so 00:27:08

a computer and the computer will so manage each bit of information that's to 00:27:08

manage each bit of information that's to 00:27:12

manage each bit of information that's to say each tiny little granule unit of 00:27:12

say each tiny little granule unit of 00:27:17

say each tiny little granule unit of information going into the image that 00:27:18

information going into the image that 00:27:20

information going into the image that you're looking at that it will 00:27:20

you're looking at that it will 00:27:21

you're looking at that it will immediately decide what is the 00:27:21

immediately decide what is the 00:27:24

immediately decide what is the appropriate response to the approach 00:27:24

appropriate response to the approach 00:27:26

appropriate response to the approach that 00:27:26

that 00:27:27

that you are making to the image well that'd 00:27:27

you are making to the image well that'd 00:27:30

you are making to the image well that'd be crazy you know she may slap you in 00:27:30

be crazy you know she may slap you in 00:27:35

be crazy you know she may slap you in the face and she may kiss you you never 00:27:35

the face and she may kiss you you never 00:27:38

the face and she may kiss you you never know but then they say now this is still 00:27:38

know but then they say now this is still 00:27:42

know but then they say now this is still not really the kind of reproduction we 00:27:42

not really the kind of reproduction we 00:27:44

not really the kind of reproduction we wanted what we wanted when we looked at 00:27:44

wanted what we wanted when we looked at 00:27:47

wanted what we wanted when we looked at this scene is to be able to identify 00:27:47

this scene is to be able to identify 00:27:49

this scene is to be able to identify with one of the characters we wanted to 00:27:49

with one of the characters we wanted to 00:27:52

with one of the characters we wanted to not just watch the drama that's being 00:27:52

not just watch the drama that's being 00:27:55

not just watch the drama that's being performed on the stage in front of us 00:27:55

performed on the stage in front of us 00:27:56

performed on the stage in front of us but actually get into it 00:27:56

but actually get into it 00:27:58

but actually get into it and so we want to be wired in with a 00:27:58

and so we want to be wired in with a 00:28:01

and so we want to be wired in with a electro electrodes on the brain so that 00:28:01

electro electrodes on the brain so that 00:28:05

electro electrodes on the brain so that we will actually feel the emotions of 00:28:05

we will actually feel the emotions of 00:28:07

we will actually feel the emotions of the people acting on the stage and so 00:28:07

the people acting on the stage and so 00:28:11

the people acting on the stage and so eventually we will get absolutely 00:28:11

eventually we will get absolutely 00:28:13

eventually we will get absolutely perfect reproduction and we will be able 00:28:13

perfect reproduction and we will be able 00:28:16

perfect reproduction and we will be able to see that image so vividly that we 00:28:16

to see that image so vividly that we 00:28:20

to see that image so vividly that we shall be coming and so the question 00:28:21

shall be coming and so the question 00:28:25

shall be coming and so the question arises could that be where we are 00:28:25

arises could that be where we are 00:28:29

arises could that be where we are already 00:28:29

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are we a reproduction which over the 00:28:33

are we a reproduction which over the 00:28:36

are we a reproduction which over the centuries of evolution has worked out to 00:28:36

centuries of evolution has worked out to 00:28:40

centuries of evolution has worked out to be a replica of something else that was 00:28:40

be a replica of something else that was 00:28:42

be a replica of something else that was going on and we are where we always were 00:28:42

00:28:48

now the next fantasy concerns the idea 00:28:48

now the next fantasy concerns the idea 00:28:56

now the next fantasy concerns the idea that every living being thinks it's 00:28:56

that every living being thinks it's 00:29:00

that every living being thinks it's human and that means a plant a worm a 00:29:00

human and that means a plant a worm a 00:29:08

human and that means a plant a worm a virus a bacterium a fruit fly a 00:29:08

virus a bacterium a fruit fly a 00:29:12

virus a bacterium a fruit fly a hippopotamus 00:29:12

hippopotamus 00:29:14

hippopotamus a giraffe a rabbit that all these beings 00:29:14

a giraffe a rabbit that all these beings 00:29:19

a giraffe a rabbit that all these beings wherever they feel out from as we feel 00:29:19

wherever they feel out from as we feel 00:29:23

wherever they feel out from as we feel out from our bodies feel that they're in 00:29:23

out from our bodies feel that they're in 00:29:26

out from our bodies feel that they're in the middle that is to say wherever you 00:29:26

the middle that is to say wherever you 00:29:30

the middle that is to say wherever you look you turn your head around and you 00:29:30

look you turn your head around and you 00:29:32

look you turn your head around and you feel you're in the middle of the world 00:29:32

feel you're in the middle of the world 00:29:33

feel you're in the middle of the world you feel you're at you're the center and 00:29:33

you feel you're at you're the center and 00:29:35

you feel you're at you're the center and a rabbit or a fruit fly feels that it is 00:29:35

a rabbit or a fruit fly feels that it is 00:29:40

a rabbit or a fruit fly feels that it is a center and it has around it a company 00:29:40

a center and it has around it a company 00:29:43

a center and it has around it a company of associates who look like it and 00:29:43

of associates who look like it and 00:29:46

of associates who look like it and therefore this creature knows that these 00:29:46

therefore this creature knows that these 00:29:49

therefore this creature knows that these are the right people just as we know 00:29:49

are the right people just as we know 00:29:52

are the right people just as we know when we look at human beings they're the 00:29:52

when we look at human beings they're the 00:29:54

when we look at human beings they're the right people they are one of us only of 00:29:54

right people they are one of us only of 00:29:57

right people they are one of us only of course we have to make distinctions 00:29:57

course we have to make distinctions 00:29:58

course we have to make distinctions because you never really know that you 00:29:58

because you never really know that you 00:30:02

because you never really know that you are you and yet you are really in the 00:30:02

are you and yet you are really in the 00:30:04

are you and yet you are really in the right place unless you can contrast 00:30:04

right place unless you can contrast 00:30:06

right place unless you can contrast yourself with some other people who are 00:30:06

yourself with some other people who are 00:30:08

yourself with some other people who are after all not quite in the right place 00:30:08

after all not quite in the right place 00:30:10

after all not quite in the right place and some other people who are very much 00:30:10

and some other people who are very much 00:30:12

and some other people who are very much in the wrong places and then through 00:30:12

in the wrong places and then through 00:30:15

in the wrong places and then through having this succession of comparisons 00:30:15

having this succession of comparisons 00:30:17

having this succession of comparisons you know that you're okay 00:30:17

you know that you're okay 00:30:19

you know that you're okay well the insect has exactly the same 00:30:19

well the insect has exactly the same 00:30:21

well the insect has exactly the same arrangement will you say well insects 00:30:21

arrangement will you say well insects 00:30:24

arrangement will you say well insects and things like fishes they don't have a 00:30:24

and things like fishes they don't have a 00:30:27

and things like fishes they don't have a culture what do you mean fish is being 00:30:27

culture what do you mean fish is being 00:30:30

culture what do you mean fish is being civilized and not being entitled to 00:30:30

civilized and not being entitled to 00:30:32

civilized and not being entitled to consider themselves as humans well let 00:30:32

consider themselves as humans well let 00:30:35

consider themselves as humans well let me put the argument from the fishes part 00:30:35

me put the argument from the fishes part 00:30:37

me put the argument from the fishes part of here who fishes say human beings are 00:30:37

of here who fishes say human beings are 00:30:40

of here who fishes say human beings are a mess look what they do they they can't 00:30:40

a mess look what they do they they can't 00:30:44

a mess look what they do they they can't exist without class 00:30:44

exist without class 00:30:47

exist without class themselves and carrying around all kinds 00:30:47

themselves and carrying around all kinds 00:30:49

themselves and carrying around all kinds of things outside their bodies they have 00:30:49

of things outside their bodies they have 00:30:52

of things outside their bodies they have to have houses and automobiles and books 00:30:52

to have houses and automobiles and books 00:30:56

to have houses and automobiles and books books and records and television and 00:30:56

books and records and television and 00:31:01

books and records and television and hi-fi equipment and stuff endless stuff 00:31:01

hi-fi equipment and stuff endless stuff 00:31:04

hi-fi equipment and stuff endless stuff and they litter the earth with rubbish 00:31:04

and they litter the earth with rubbish 00:31:07

and they litter the earth with rubbish think of a dolphin isn't it really a 00:31:07

think of a dolphin isn't it really a 00:31:09

think of a dolphin isn't it really a fish because of dolphins and mammals but 00:31:09

fish because of dolphins and mammals but 00:31:11

fish because of dolphins and mammals but a dolphins point of view towards the 00:31:11

a dolphins point of view towards the 00:31:13

a dolphins point of view towards the human race 00:31:13

human race 00:31:14

human race dolphins spend most of their time 00:31:14

dolphins spend most of their time 00:31:16

dolphins spend most of their time playing they don't work because the 00:31:16

playing they don't work because the 00:31:19

playing they don't work because the grocery is right there in the ocean 00:31:19

grocery is right there in the ocean 00:31:21

grocery is right there in the ocean whatever they need and so a dolphin will 00:31:21

whatever they need and so a dolphin will 00:31:24

whatever they need and so a dolphin will no catch up with a seagoing liner and 00:31:24

no catch up with a seagoing liner and 00:31:29

no catch up with a seagoing liner and it'll get on the wake of the liner and 00:31:29

it'll get on the wake of the liner and 00:31:31

it'll get on the wake of the liner and put its tail at an exact angle of 26 00:31:31

put its tail at an exact angle of 26 00:31:33

put its tail at an exact angle of 26 degrees and in so doing the line I will 00:31:33

degrees and in so doing the line I will 00:31:37

degrees and in so doing the line I will carry the dolphin long the dolphin will 00:31:37

carry the dolphin long the dolphin will 00:31:39

carry the dolphin long the dolphin will make circles around the line it is for 00:31:39

make circles around the line it is for 00:31:41

make circles around the line it is for fun playing all its life in the water 00:31:41

fun playing all its life in the water 00:31:43

fun playing all its life in the water and we know that a dolphin's brain is as 00:31:43

and we know that a dolphin's brain is as 00:31:48

and we know that a dolphin's brain is as big if not bigger than ours but it's 00:31:48

big if not bigger than ours but it's 00:31:51

big if not bigger than ours but it's incredibly intelligent that it has a 00:31:51

incredibly intelligent that it has a 00:31:53

incredibly intelligent that it has a language which we can't decipher and the 00:31:53

language which we can't decipher and the 00:31:55

language which we can't decipher and the person who knows most about dolphins in 00:31:55

person who knows most about dolphins in 00:31:57

person who knows most about dolphins in the United States dr. John Lilly is a 00:31:57

the United States dr. John Lilly is a 00:31:59

the United States dr. John Lilly is a friend of mine and he said he came to 00:31:59

friend of mine and he said he came to 00:32:01

friend of mine and he said he came to the conclusion that dolphins were too 00:32:01

the conclusion that dolphins were too 00:32:03

the conclusion that dolphins were too smart to tell us their language so he 00:32:03

smart to tell us their language so he 00:32:11

smart to tell us their language so he abandoned this project he said he would 00:32:11

abandoned this project he said he would 00:32:13

abandoned this project he said he would no longer keep such a highly civilized 00:32:13

no longer keep such a highly civilized 00:32:15

no longer keep such a highly civilized being in the concentration camp of the 00:32:15

being in the concentration camp of the 00:32:17

being in the concentration camp of the zoo and that it should go back to the 00:32:17

zoo and that it should go back to the 00:32:19

zoo and that it should go back to the ocean so the point is though that every 00:32:19

ocean so the point is though that every 00:32:23

ocean so the point is though that every not only dolphins but every organism 00:32:23

not only dolphins but every organism 00:32:27

not only dolphins but every organism that has any sensitivity in it 00:32:27

that has any sensitivity in it 00:32:29

that has any sensitivity in it whatsoever 00:32:29

whatsoever 00:32:30

whatsoever considers itself to be the center of the 00:32:30

considers itself to be the center of the 00:32:33

considers itself to be the center of the universe 00:32:33

universe 00:32:34

universe now it has its problems there's a Zen 00:32:34

now it has its problems there's a Zen 00:32:40

now it has its problems there's a Zen poem which says the Morning Glory which 00:32:40

poem which says the Morning Glory which 00:32:44

poem which says the Morning Glory which blooms for an hour differs not at heart 00:32:44

blooms for an hour differs not at heart 00:32:47

blooms for an hour differs not at heart from a giant pine that lives for a 00:32:47

from a giant pine that lives for a 00:32:49

from a giant pine that lives for a thousand years 00:32:49

00:32:53

in other words an hour is a long life to 00:32:53

in other words an hour is a long life to 00:32:59

in other words an hour is a long life to a Morning Glory a thousand years is the 00:32:59

a Morning Glory a thousand years is the 00:33:03

a Morning Glory a thousand years is the long life to a pint and our four score 00:33:03

long life to a pint and our four score 00:33:07

long life to a pint and our four score years and ten or as the insurance 00:33:07

years and ten or as the insurance 00:33:11

years and ten or as the insurance companies actuarial tables put it 00:33:11

companies actuarial tables put it 00:33:13

companies actuarial tables put it somewhere between 65 and 70 years as an 00:33:13

somewhere between 65 and 70 years as an 00:33:15

somewhere between 65 and 70 years as an average human life seems about the right 00:33:15

average human life seems about the right 00:33:17

average human life seems about the right length of life I mean there are people 00:33:17

length of life I mean there are people 00:33:20

length of life I mean there are people who want to go on and on and our inquest 00:33:20

who want to go on and on and our inquest 00:33:24

who want to go on and on and our inquest of immortality and have their bodies 00:33:24

of immortality and have their bodies 00:33:27

of immortality and have their bodies frozen in case there should develop in 00:33:27

frozen in case there should develop in 00:33:29

frozen in case there should develop in the future some technique by which they 00:33:29

the future some technique by which they 00:33:31

the future some technique by which they could be revived but I I really don't go 00:33:31

could be revived but I I really don't go 00:33:35

could be revived but I I really don't go for that idea because Nature has 00:33:35

for that idea because Nature has 00:33:41

for that idea because Nature has mercifully arranged the principle of 00:33:41

mercifully arranged the principle of 00:33:44

mercifully arranged the principle of forgettery as well as the principle of 00:33:44

forgettery as well as the principle of 00:33:46

forgettery as well as the principle of memory if you always and always and 00:33:46

memory if you always and always and 00:33:51

memory if you always and always and always remembered everything you see you 00:33:51

always remembered everything you see you 00:33:53

always remembered everything you see you would be like a piece of paper which had 00:33:53

would be like a piece of paper which had 00:33:56

would be like a piece of paper which had been painted over and painted over and 00:33:56

been painted over and painted over and 00:33:57

been painted over and painted over and painted over until there was no space 00:33:57

painted over until there was no space 00:34:00

painted over until there was no space left and you wouldn't be able to 00:34:00

left and you wouldn't be able to 00:34:01

left and you wouldn't be able to distinguish between one thing and 00:34:01

distinguish between one thing and 00:34:02

distinguish between one thing and another it's not going a whole bunch of 00:34:02

another it's not going a whole bunch of 00:34:04

another it's not going a whole bunch of people start to scream and make noises 00:34:04

people start to scream and make noises 00:34:06

people start to scream and make noises and out scream each other and soon you 00:34:06

and out scream each other and soon you 00:34:09

and out scream each other and soon you can hear nobody so in what that way 00:34:09

can hear nobody so in what that way 00:34:12

can hear nobody so in what that way one's memories become screams and nature 00:34:12

one's memories become screams and nature 00:34:17

one's memories become screams and nature mercifully arranges that the whole thing 00:34:17

mercifully arranges that the whole thing 00:34:19

mercifully arranges that the whole thing be erased and you begin again he doesn't 00:34:19

be erased and you begin again he doesn't 00:34:23

be erased and you begin again he doesn't matter in what form you begin whether 00:34:23

matter in what form you begin whether 00:34:25

matter in what form you begin whether you'll begin again as a human being or 00:34:25

you'll begin again as a human being or 00:34:28

you'll begin again as a human being or as a fruit fly butterfly or a beetle or 00:34:28

as a fruit fly butterfly or a beetle or 00:34:32

as a fruit fly butterfly or a beetle or a bird it feels the same way that you 00:34:32

a bird it feels the same way that you 00:34:36

a bird it feels the same way that you feel now so we're really all in the same 00:34:36

feel now so we're really all in the same 00:34:41

feel now so we're really all in the same place and we all have above us things 00:34:41

place and we all have above us things 00:34:46

place and we all have above us things much higher than ourselves and we all 00:34:46

much higher than ourselves and we all 00:34:49

much higher than ourselves and we all have the Loess things that we feel are 00:34:49

have the Loess things that we feel are 00:34:51

have the Loess things that we feel are much lower than ourselves just as there 00:34:51

much lower than ourselves just as there 00:34:53

much lower than ourselves just as there are things out there on the left and 00:34:53

are things out there on the left and 00:34:55

are things out there on the left and things out there on the right and things 00:34:55

things out there on the right and things 00:34:56

things out there on the right and things in front and things behind because 00:34:56

in front and things behind because 00:34:59

in front and things behind because you're the middle you're the middle 00:34:59

you're the middle you're the middle 00:35:01

you're the middle you're the middle everywhere always 00:35:01

00:35:07

and on my third fantasy nobody has it 00:35:07

and on my third fantasy nobody has it 00:35:14

and on my third fantasy nobody has it seems to me really seriously ask the 00:35:14

seems to me really seriously ask the 00:35:16

seems to me really seriously ask the question how do stars begin why how out 00:35:16

question how do stars begin why how out 00:35:23

question how do stars begin why how out of space do these enormous radioactive 00:35:23

of space do these enormous radioactive 00:35:27

of space do these enormous radioactive centers arise well I'm going to solve 00:35:27

centers arise well I'm going to solve 00:35:34

centers arise well I'm going to solve this problem on the principle of the egg 00:35:34

this problem on the principle of the egg 00:35:36

this problem on the principle of the egg and the hen because it is said a chicken 00:35:36

and the hen because it is said a chicken 00:35:40

and the hen because it is said a chicken is one eggs way of becoming other eggs 00:35:40

is one eggs way of becoming other eggs 00:35:45

is one eggs way of becoming other eggs and if you've understood my second 00:35:45

and if you've understood my second 00:35:50

and if you've understood my second fantasy you will see how that could be 00:35:50

fantasy you will see how that could be 00:35:51

fantasy you will see how that could be true now let's suppose then that a 00:35:51

true now let's suppose then that a 00:35:56

true now let's suppose then that a planet is one stars way of becoming 00:35:56

planet is one stars way of becoming 00:36:00

planet is one stars way of becoming another star you know stars when they 00:36:00

another star you know stars when they 00:36:06

another star you know stars when they explode they send a lot of goo out into 00:36:06

explode they send a lot of goo out into 00:36:09

explode they send a lot of goo out into space and some of this goo solidifies 00:36:09

space and some of this goo solidifies 00:36:12

space and some of this goo solidifies into balls which get in orbit and spin 00:36:12

into balls which get in orbit and spin 00:36:14

into balls which get in orbit and spin around the star and in one chance in a 00:36:14

around the star and in one chance in a 00:36:18

around the star and in one chance in a thousand maybe one of those balls will 00:36:18

thousand maybe one of those balls will 00:36:21

thousand maybe one of those balls will become like the planet Earth and slowly 00:36:21

become like the planet Earth and slowly 00:36:25

become like the planet Earth and slowly upon it will arise what some people 00:36:25

upon it will arise what some people 00:36:27

upon it will arise what some people might call a disease called the bacteria 00:36:27

might call a disease called the bacteria 00:36:31

might call a disease called the bacteria of intelligent life and they haven't 00:36:31

of intelligent life and they haven't 00:36:36

of intelligent life and they haven't notion these things that if we call 00:36:36

notion these things that if we call 00:36:38

notion these things that if we call alive that they ought to go on there you 00:36:38

alive that they ought to go on there you 00:36:41

alive that they ought to go on there you know I have a fixed idea in their heads 00:36:41

know I have a fixed idea in their heads 00:36:44

know I have a fixed idea in their heads that they should keep on doing whatever 00:36:44

that they should keep on doing whatever 00:36:47

that they should keep on doing whatever it is they're doing and they should 00:36:47

it is they're doing and they should 00:36:49

it is they're doing and they should always be doing it better so they divide 00:36:49

always be doing it better so they divide 00:36:52

always be doing it better so they divide themselves into different species and 00:36:52

themselves into different species and 00:36:54

themselves into different species and these species compete with each other in 00:36:54

these species compete with each other in 00:36:56

these species compete with each other in order to as it will flex their muscles 00:36:56

order to as it will flex their muscles 00:36:59

order to as it will flex their muscles and get better and better at whatever it 00:36:59

and get better and better at whatever it 00:37:01

and get better and better at whatever it is they are and they go on doing this 00:37:01

is they are and they go on doing this 00:37:04

is they are and they go on doing this until one species really establishes 00:37:04

until one species really establishes 00:37:07

until one species really establishes itself as top species in the particular 00:37:07

itself as top species in the particular 00:37:09

itself as top species in the particular area on the particular planet as we 00:37:10

area on the particular planet as we 00:37:13

area on the particular planet as we human beings Homo sapiens have 00:37:13

human beings Homo sapiens have 00:37:16

human beings Homo sapiens have established our 00:37:16

established our 00:37:17

established our selves as top species on earth whatever 00:37:17

selves as top species on earth whatever 00:37:20

selves as top species on earth whatever top means well then when we have a 00:37:20

top means well then when we have a 00:37:23

top means well then when we have a little leisure and don't have to spend 00:37:23

little leisure and don't have to spend 00:37:25

little leisure and don't have to spend all our time finding food to put into 00:37:25

all our time finding food to put into 00:37:28

all our time finding food to put into our mouths we start asking questions and 00:37:28

our mouths we start asking questions and 00:37:31

our mouths we start asking questions and we look around at each other and 00:37:31

we look around at each other and 00:37:33

we look around at each other and everything and say what is this I mean 00:37:33

everything and say what is this I mean 00:37:37

everything and say what is this I mean what's going on here well some people 00:37:37

what's going on here well some people 00:37:40

what's going on here well some people say that's a stupid question to ask why 00:37:40

say that's a stupid question to ask why 00:37:42

say that's a stupid question to ask why don't you just go on doing your work go 00:37:42

don't you just go on doing your work go 00:37:44

don't you just go on doing your work go hunting go farming go doing your 00:37:44

hunting go farming go doing your 00:37:46

hunting go farming go doing your business they say no there are higher 00:37:46

business they say no there are higher 00:37:49

business they say no there are higher things so they create a special class of 00:37:49

things so they create a special class of 00:37:52

things so they create a special class of people who are in India called Brahmans 00:37:52

people who are in India called Brahmans 00:37:55

people who are in India called Brahmans among us philosophers scientists 00:37:55

among us philosophers scientists 00:37:59

among us philosophers scientists theologians thinkers and they go into 00:37:59

theologians thinkers and they go into 00:38:03

theologians thinkers and they go into this question and they are allowed to 00:38:03

this question and they are allowed to 00:38:06

this question and they are allowed to stop farming to stop hunting to stop 00:38:06

stop farming to stop hunting to stop 00:38:09

stop farming to stop hunting to stop mining to stop scrubbing floors and to 00:38:09

mining to stop scrubbing floors and to 00:38:13

mining to stop scrubbing floors and to go to various special places called 00:38:13

go to various special places called 00:38:15

go to various special places called universities where they can sit around 00:38:15

universities where they can sit around 00:38:17

universities where they can sit around and think about what is going on or they 00:38:17

and think about what is going on or they 00:38:21

and think about what is going on or they think about this first of all they do 00:38:21

think about this first of all they do 00:38:23

think about this first of all they do what they call philosophy which is they 00:38:23

what they call philosophy which is they 00:38:27

what they call philosophy which is they try to say what it means with what what 00:38:27

try to say what it means with what what 00:38:31

try to say what it means with what what is the word be what is the word exist me 00:38:31

is the word be what is the word exist me 00:38:34

is the word be what is the word exist me what do we mean when we say we're here 00:38:34

what do we mean when we say we're here 00:38:37

what do we mean when we say we're here or they find they can't discuss that 00:38:37

or they find they can't discuss that 00:38:39

or they find they can't discuss that very far because the word stops meaning 00:38:39

very far because the word stops meaning 00:38:47

very far because the word stops meaning anything it sort of becomes the noise 00:38:47

anything it sort of becomes the noise 00:38:48

anything it sort of becomes the noise the sin and we're not really getting to 00:38:48

the sin and we're not really getting to 00:38:51

the sin and we're not really getting to the point what we've got to do is 00:38:51

the point what we've got to do is 00:38:53

the point what we've got to do is instead of thinking all the time and 00:38:53

instead of thinking all the time and 00:38:55

instead of thinking all the time and just theorizing and talking words about 00:38:55

just theorizing and talking words about 00:38:57

just theorizing and talking words about what's going on we've got to investigate 00:38:57

what's going on we've got to investigate 00:38:59

what's going on we've got to investigate it experimentally we've somehow got to 00:38:59

it experimentally we've somehow got to 00:39:01

it experimentally we've somehow got to look into this stuff that we call 00:39:01

look into this stuff that we call 00:39:04

look into this stuff that we call reality the material world and find out 00:39:04

reality the material world and find out 00:39:08

reality the material world and find out what it is so they start chopping it up 00:39:08

what it is so they start chopping it up 00:39:11

what it is so they start chopping it up see they go into flowers and they chop 00:39:11

see they go into flowers and they chop 00:39:14

see they go into flowers and they chop up the seeds and they look into the 00:39:14

up the seeds and they look into the 00:39:15

up the seeds and they look into the middle of the scenes they find something 00:39:15

middle of the scenes they find something 00:39:17

middle of the scenes they find something there and then I have to get a 00:39:17

there and then I have to get a 00:39:18

there and then I have to get a magnifying glass I'm looking on that and 00:39:18

magnifying glass I'm looking on that and 00:39:20

magnifying glass I'm looking on that and get smaller and smaller and smaller and 00:39:20

get smaller and smaller and smaller and 00:39:23

get smaller and smaller and smaller and they three reason they must eventually 00:39:23

they three reason they must eventually 00:39:24

they three reason they must eventually come to some particle called an akan in 00:39:24

come to some particle called an akan in 00:39:28

come to some particle called an akan in Greek autumn means 00:39:28

Greek autumn means 00:39:30

Greek autumn means our Thomas nan cuttable what you can't 00:39:30

our Thomas nan cuttable what you can't 00:39:34

our Thomas nan cuttable what you can't split any further so they come down to 00:39:34

split any further so they come down to 00:39:37

split any further so they come down to the I promise that then which there is 00:39:37

the I promise that then which there is 00:39:41

the I promise that then which there is no which er they thought but then they 00:39:41

no which er they thought but then they 00:39:43

no which er they thought but then they found they could split that atom they 00:39:43

found they could split that atom they 00:39:45

found they could split that atom they could find the electron the positron the 00:39:45

could find the electron the positron the 00:39:47

could find the electron the positron the mason etc etc etc forever and so they 00:39:47

mason etc etc etc forever and so they 00:39:57

mason etc etc etc forever and so they said well this is I mean this is a real 00:39:57

said well this is I mean this is a real 00:39:59

said well this is I mean this is a real science because we've now found out that 00:39:59

science because we've now found out that 00:40:04

science because we've now found out that every optimist of matter contains 00:40:04

every optimist of matter contains 00:40:08

every optimist of matter contains immense energy and that we could come to 00:40:08

immense energy and that we could come to 00:40:11

immense energy and that we could come to the point where we could release the 00:40:11

the point where we could release the 00:40:15

the point where we could release the energy in the atom and the trouble with 00:40:15

energy in the atom and the trouble with 00:40:18

energy in the atom and the trouble with intellectual people is that anything 00:40:18

intellectual people is that anything 00:40:21

intellectual people is that anything that can be done must be done and so 00:40:21

that can be done must be done and so 00:40:25

that can be done must be done and so eventually in the necessary course of 00:40:25

eventually in the necessary course of 00:40:27

eventually in the necessary course of the development of nature they found out 00:40:27

the development of nature they found out 00:40:29

the development of nature they found out how to blow the earth to pieces and turn 00:40:29

how to blow the earth to pieces and turn 00:40:32

how to blow the earth to pieces and turn it into a star 00:40:32

00:40:39

so that maybe you see how stars 00:40:39

so that maybe you see how stars 00:40:43

so that maybe you see how stars originated they have planets like 00:40:43

originated they have planets like 00:40:46

originated they have planets like chickens have eggs and the eggs burst 00:40:46

chickens have eggs and the eggs burst 00:40:50

chickens have eggs and the eggs burst and turn into chickens and planets burst 00:40:50

and turn into chickens and planets burst 00:40:53

and turn into chickens and planets burst through the agency of intelligent life 00:40:53

through the agency of intelligent life 00:40:56

through the agency of intelligent life and turn into stars which throw out 00:40:56

and turn into stars which throw out 00:40:59

and turn into stars which throw out other mud balls which some of which 00:40:59

other mud balls which some of which 00:41:02

other mud balls which some of which stand a reasonable chance about as 00:41:02

stand a reasonable chance about as 00:41:04

stand a reasonable chance about as reasonable a chance to say any male 00:41:04

reasonable a chance to say any male 00:41:06

reasonable a chance to say any male spermatozoon stands when it enters the 00:41:06

spermatozoon stands when it enters the 00:41:09

spermatozoon stands when it enters the female womb of becoming a baby one in a 00:41:09

female womb of becoming a baby one in a 00:41:12

female womb of becoming a baby one in a million 00:41:12

million 00:41:12

million and those spermatozoa are in exactly the 00:41:12

and those spermatozoa are in exactly the 00:41:17

and those spermatozoa are in exactly the same position as the planets and the 00:41:17

same position as the planets and the 00:41:20

same position as the planets and the stars now I tell you this is a fantasy 00:41:20

stars now I tell you this is a fantasy 00:41:22

stars now I tell you this is a fantasy but you may ask me isn't it a rather 00:41:22

but you may ask me isn't it a rather 00:41:25

but you may ask me isn't it a rather unpleasant fantasy aren't things going 00:41:25

unpleasant fantasy aren't things going 00:41:30

unpleasant fantasy aren't things going the wrong way the wrong direction in 00:41:30

the wrong way the wrong direction in 00:41:32

the wrong way the wrong direction in other words if the whole point of life I 00:41:32

other words if the whole point of life I 00:41:39

other words if the whole point of life I mean this tender biological substance 00:41:39

mean this tender biological substance 00:41:45

mean this tender biological substance with all its tubes and filaments and 00:41:45

with all its tubes and filaments and 00:41:47

with all its tubes and filaments and nerves which is so very sensitive if all 00:41:47

nerves which is so very sensitive if all 00:41:50

nerves which is so very sensitive if all this is to end up in fire into an 00:41:50

this is to end up in fire into an 00:41:54

this is to end up in fire into an absolute blaze of light don't we say oh 00:41:54

absolute blaze of light don't we say oh 00:42:00

absolute blaze of light don't we say oh what a shame 00:42:00

what a shame 00:42:03

what a shame you know is that the way it ends 00:42:03

00:42:10

but so many people say that they want to 00:42:10

but so many people say that they want to 00:42:14

but so many people say that they want to see the light they want to be 00:42:14

see the light they want to be 00:42:16

see the light they want to be enlightened they want to dissolve into 00:42:16

enlightened they want to dissolve into 00:42:19

enlightened they want to dissolve into the light of God then when they've done 00:42:19

the light of God then when they've done 00:42:24

the light of God then when they've done that all over again the process goes on 00:42:24

that all over again the process goes on 00:42:28

that all over again the process goes on it blows out those mud balls and here 00:42:28

it blows out those mud balls and here 00:42:33

it blows out those mud balls and here are planets and here once again you're a 00:42:33

are planets and here once again you're a 00:42:39

are planets and here once again you're a baby you're a child 00:42:39

baby you're a child 00:42:42

baby you're a child the flowers are brilliantly colored the 00:42:42

the flowers are brilliantly colored the 00:42:46

the flowers are brilliantly colored the Stars are gorgeous the smell of the 00:42:46

Stars are gorgeous the smell of the 00:42:49

Stars are gorgeous the smell of the earth the sound of the rain everything 00:42:49

earth the sound of the rain everything 00:42:52

earth the sound of the rain everything is marvelous once again and once again 00:42:52

is marvelous once again and once again 00:42:55

is marvelous once again and once again you see the other the man the woman that 00:42:55

you see the other the man the woman that 00:43:03

you see the other the man the woman that you love 00:43:03

00:43:05

as if it had never happened before it 00:43:05

as if it had never happened before it 00:43:08

as if it had never happened before it all starts over and as it goes on it 00:43:08

all starts over and as it goes on it 00:43:12

all starts over and as it goes on it gets more and more intense all the 00:43:12

gets more and more intense all the 00:43:14

gets more and more intense all the problems get more and more problematic 00:43:14

problems get more and more problematic 00:43:16

problems get more and more problematic and you find you're wrestling with 00:43:16

and you find you're wrestling with 00:43:19

and you find you're wrestling with something you can't control 00:43:19

something you can't control 00:43:21

something you can't control you've got to control it but you 00:43:21

you've got to control it but you 00:43:23

you've got to control it but you absolutely can't control it like all the 00:43:23

absolutely can't control it like all the 00:43:25

absolutely can't control it like all the problems of the world at the present 00:43:25

problems of the world at the present 00:43:27

problems of the world at the present time is the whole scene is completely 00:43:27

time is the whole scene is completely 00:43:29

time is the whole scene is completely out of hand 00:43:29

out of hand 00:43:30

out of hand and we feel we're going to our doom 00:43:30

and we feel we're going to our doom 00:43:33

and we feel we're going to our doom because we're going once again towards 00:43:33

because we're going once again towards 00:43:36

because we're going once again towards the birth of a star which is the most 00:43:36

the birth of a star which is the most 00:43:38

the birth of a star which is the most creative thing there is now if you think 00:43:38

creative thing there is now if you think 00:43:45

creative thing there is now if you think about this for a while you see well put 00:43:45

about this for a while you see well put 00:43:47

about this for a while you see well put forward three founders is all of which 00:43:47

forward three founders is all of which 00:43:51

forward three founders is all of which have a cyclic quality we reproduce not 00:43:51

have a cyclic quality we reproduce not 00:43:56

have a cyclic quality we reproduce not only biologically but we reproduce 00:43:56

only biologically but we reproduce 00:44:01

only biologically but we reproduce artistically technically 00:44:01

00:44:06

so just for a moment I want to put in an 00:44:06

so just for a moment I want to put in an 00:44:08

so just for a moment I want to put in an aside about biological yeah now think 00:44:08

aside about biological yeah now think 00:44:14

aside about biological yeah now think back to my grandfather whom I knew 00:44:14

back to my grandfather whom I knew 00:44:18

back to my grandfather whom I knew fairly well he was when I was a little 00:44:18

fairly well he was when I was a little 00:44:22

fairly well he was when I was a little boy he was something extraordinarily 00:44:22

boy he was something extraordinarily 00:44:24

boy he was something extraordinarily impressive he looked like King Edward 00:44:24

impressive he looked like King Edward 00:44:27

impressive he looked like King Edward the seventh he was a very very elegant 00:44:27

the seventh he was a very very elegant 00:44:31

the seventh he was a very very elegant man was a little goatee beard he didn't 00:44:31

man was a little goatee beard he didn't 00:44:35

man was a little goatee beard he didn't have sideburns like this and he had 00:44:35

have sideburns like this and he had 00:44:37

have sideburns like this and he had shorter hair very elegant fellow dress 00:44:37

shorter hair very elegant fellow dress 00:44:40

shorter hair very elegant fellow dress beautifully and I thought you know he 00:44:40

beautifully and I thought you know he 00:44:42

beautifully and I thought you know he was the very image of God and now here I 00:44:42

was the very image of God and now here I 00:44:46

was the very image of God and now here I am the same age as he was when I first 00:44:46

am the same age as he was when I first 00:44:50

am the same age as he was when I first knew him and I have five grandchildren 00:44:50

knew him and I have five grandchildren 00:44:53

knew him and I have five grandchildren and I no longer impressed by 00:44:53

and I no longer impressed by 00:44:59

and I no longer impressed by grandfathers I'm one of them too and 00:44:59

grandfathers I'm one of them too and 00:45:10

grandfathers I'm one of them too and this is the same idea you see of the 00:45:10

this is the same idea you see of the 00:45:13

this is the same idea you see of the round that we are almost perpetually in 00:45:13

round that we are almost perpetually in 00:45:22

round that we are almost perpetually in the same place as the French proverb 00:45:22

the same place as the French proverb 00:45:24

the same place as the French proverb says blue sourish blue sailor name shows 00:45:24

says blue sourish blue sailor name shows 00:45:26

says blue sourish blue sailor name shows the more it changes the more it's the 00:45:26

the more it changes the more it's the 00:45:28

the more it changes the more it's the same thing well 00:45:28

00:45:36

that means then you see that existence 00:45:36

that means then you see that existence 00:45:43

that means then you see that existence the feeling of being is a sort of 00:45:43

the feeling of being is a sort of 00:45:45

the feeling of being is a sort of spectrum just as light is at one end red 00:45:45

spectrum just as light is at one end red 00:45:50

spectrum just as light is at one end red and at the other end violet and you have 00:45:50

and at the other end violet and you have 00:45:55

and at the other end violet and you have to have these extremes in order to have 00:45:55

to have these extremes in order to have 00:45:58

to have these extremes in order to have color at all in order to know light so 00:45:58

color at all in order to know light so 00:46:01

color at all in order to know light so you see likewise we we have to have the 00:46:01

you see likewise we we have to have the 00:46:07

you see likewise we we have to have the experience that there is somebody else 00:46:07

experience that there is somebody else 00:46:09

experience that there is somebody else something else going on 00:46:09

something else going on 00:46:11

something else going on all together out of our control in order 00:46:11

all together out of our control in order 00:46:14

all together out of our control in order to have the experiences being me and so 00:46:14

to have the experiences being me and so 00:46:20

to have the experiences being me and so in order to feel good to feel that my 00:46:20

in order to feel good to feel that my 00:46:25

in order to feel good to feel that my life is worthwhile at existences is 00:46:25

life is worthwhile at existences is 00:46:27

life is worthwhile at existences is worth going on with in order to bring 00:46:27

worth going on with in order to bring 00:46:30

worth going on with in order to bring out that feeling just as the red brings 00:46:30

out that feeling just as the red brings 00:46:32

out that feeling just as the red brings out the violet there has to be in the 00:46:32

out the violet there has to be in the 00:46:34

out the violet there has to be in the back of our minds maybe very far away 00:46:34

back of our minds maybe very far away 00:46:35

back of our minds maybe very far away the comprehension that there is 00:46:35

the comprehension that there is 00:46:38

the comprehension that there is something that could happen that 00:46:38

something that could happen that 00:46:40

something that could happen that absolutely mustn't happen there is the 00:46:40

absolutely mustn't happen there is the 00:46:43

absolutely mustn't happen there is the horrors that is the screaming me means 00:46:43

horrors that is the screaming me means 00:46:45

horrors that is the screaming me means at the end of the line we have to know 00:46:45

at the end of the line we have to know 00:46:48

at the end of the line we have to know that's there and every so often that has 00:46:48

that's there and every so often that has 00:46:51

that's there and every so often that has to happen because if there isn't the 00:46:51

to happen because if there isn't the 00:46:55

to happen because if there isn't the experience that we go through called the 00:46:55

experience that we go through called the 00:46:57

experience that we go through called the Screaming Mimi's at the end of the line 00:46:57

Screaming Mimi's at the end of the line 00:46:59

Screaming Mimi's at the end of the line where everything has gone wrong like 00:46:59

where everything has gone wrong like 00:47:03

where everything has gone wrong like just before he died the British novelist 00:47:03

just before he died the British novelist 00:47:05

just before he died the British novelist Arnold Bennett said I feel somehow that 00:47:05

Arnold Bennett said I feel somehow that 00:47:08

Arnold Bennett said I feel somehow that everything's absolutely wrong you know 00:47:08

everything's absolutely wrong you know 00:47:14

everything's absolutely wrong you know so the the the possibility even the the 00:47:14

so the the the possibility even the the 00:47:18

so the the the possibility even the the imagination that there could be such an 00:47:18

imagination that there could be such an 00:47:20

imagination that there could be such an experience in the back of our heads is 00:47:20

experience in the back of our heads is 00:47:22

experience in the back of our heads is the background which gives intensity to 00:47:22

the background which gives intensity to 00:47:26

the background which gives intensity to the sense that we call feeling good 00:47:26

the sense that we call feeling good 00:47:29

the sense that we call feeling good feeling that it's it's all right it's 00:47:29

feeling that it's it's all right it's 00:47:33

feeling that it's it's all right it's all right 00:47:33

00:47:36

so if you understand that you see that 00:47:36

so if you understand that you see that 00:47:43

so if you understand that you see that really and truly you're always in the 00:47:43

really and truly you're always in the 00:47:45

really and truly you're always in the same place just as every creature thinks 00:47:45

same place just as every creature thinks 00:47:49

same place just as every creature thinks it's a human being and it's just every 00:47:49

it's a human being and it's just every 00:47:53

it's a human being and it's just every being turns out to be a reproduction by 00:47:53

being turns out to be a reproduction by 00:47:56

being turns out to be a reproduction by some interesting technology whether it's 00:47:56

some interesting technology whether it's 00:47:59

some interesting technology whether it's electronic or biological makes very 00:47:59

electronic or biological makes very 00:48:00

electronic or biological makes very little difference and just as it may be 00:48:00

little difference and just as it may be 00:48:05

little difference and just as it may be I don't know planets are stars ways of 00:48:05

I don't know planets are stars ways of 00:48:09

I don't know planets are stars ways of becoming other stars and so on and so on 00:48:09

becoming other stars and so on and so on 00:48:11

becoming other stars and so on and so on and so on but the moral is you're always 00:48:11

and so on but the moral is you're always 00:48:14

and so on but the moral is you're always in the same place and what is that place 00:48:14

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you can ask yourself very very I won't 00:48:25

you can ask yourself very very I won't 00:48:28

you can ask yourself very very I won't say seriously because this isn't really 00:48:28

say seriously because this isn't really 00:48:30

say seriously because this isn't really serious it's sincere 00:48:30

serious it's sincere 00:48:32

serious it's sincere ask yourself very sincerely if that is 00:48:32

ask yourself very sincerely if that is 00:48:36

ask yourself very sincerely if that is so if in other words the place in which 00:48:36

so if in other words the place in which 00:48:41

so if in other words the place in which you are now is the place where 00:48:41

you are now is the place where 00:48:43

you are now is the place where everything and everybody else really is 00:48:43

everything and everybody else really is 00:48:45

everything and everybody else really is only there's an arrangement to pretend 00:48:45

only there's an arrangement to pretend 00:48:47

only there's an arrangement to pretend that you ought to be somewhere else so 00:48:48

that you ought to be somewhere else so 00:48:54

that you ought to be somewhere else so the place where you are is the place 00:48:54

the place where you are is the place 00:48:56

the place where you are is the place where you're always pretending you want 00:48:56

where you're always pretending you want 00:48:57

where you're always pretending you want to be somewhere else and this is the 00:48:57

to be somewhere else and this is the 00:49:01

to be somewhere else and this is the nature of life this is the pulse I ought 00:49:01

nature of life this is the pulse I ought 00:49:04

nature of life this is the pulse I ought to be somewhere else so it's a kind of a 00:49:04

to be somewhere else so it's a kind of a 00:49:07

to be somewhere else so it's a kind of a listen like that see when if you 00:49:07

listen like that see when if you 00:49:11

listen like that see when if you discover that that's the trick that 00:49:11

discover that that's the trick that 00:49:12

discover that that's the trick that you're playing on yourself you become 00:49:12

you're playing on yourself you become 00:49:20

you're playing on yourself you become serene and you don't entirely give up 00:49:20

serene and you don't entirely give up 00:49:29

serene and you don't entirely give up the game because that you've seen 00:49:29

the game because that you've seen 00:49:30

the game because that you've seen through it but you say hmm it really 00:49:30

through it but you say hmm it really 00:49:34

through it but you say hmm it really might be fun to go on playing 00:49:34