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time is a very difficult thing to pin 00:00:31
time is a very difficult thing to pin 00:00:33
time is a very difficult thing to pin down as a famous saying of st. Augustine 00:00:33
down as a famous saying of st. Augustine 00:00:36
down as a famous saying of st. Augustine of Hippo that when he was asked what is 00:00:36
of Hippo that when he was asked what is 00:00:39
of Hippo that when he was asked what is time he said I know what it is but when 00:00:39
time he said I know what it is but when 00:00:42
time he said I know what it is but when you ask me I don't and yet it seems 00:00:42
you ask me I don't and yet it seems 00:00:47
you ask me I don't and yet it seems absolutely fundamental to our life time 00:00:47
absolutely fundamental to our life time 00:00:50
absolutely fundamental to our life time is money we say I don't have enough time 00:00:50
is money we say I don't have enough time 00:00:53
is money we say I don't have enough time time flies time drags and I think we 00:00:53
time flies time drags and I think we 00:00:59
time flies time drags and I think we should go into the question of what this 00:00:59
should go into the question of what this 00:01:00
should go into the question of what this is because in our ordinary common sense 00:01:00
is because in our ordinary common sense 00:01:03
is because in our ordinary common sense we think of time as a one-way motion 00:01:03
we think of time as a one-way motion 00:01:06
we think of time as a one-way motion from the past through the present and on 00:01:06
from the past through the present and on 00:01:10
from the past through the present and on into the future and that carries along 00:01:10
into the future and that carries along 00:01:14
into the future and that carries along with it another impression which is to 00:01:14
with it another impression which is to 00:01:17
with it another impression which is to say that life moves from the past to the 00:01:17
say that life moves from the past to the 00:01:22
say that life moves from the past to the future in such a way that what happens 00:01:22
future in such a way that what happens 00:01:26
future in such a way that what happens now and what will happen is always the 00:01:26
now and what will happen is always the 00:01:30
now and what will happen is always the result of what has happened in the past 00:01:30
result of what has happened in the past 00:01:33
result of what has happened in the past in other words we seem to be driven 00:01:33
in other words we seem to be driven 00:01:38
in other words we seem to be driven along you know once upon a time it was 00:01:38
along you know once upon a time it was 00:01:42
along you know once upon a time it was fashionable in psychology for people to 00:01:42
fashionable in psychology for people to 00:01:46
fashionable in psychology for people to speak of man's and animals instincts 00:01:46
speak of man's and animals instincts 00:01:49
speak of man's and animals instincts that we had for example an instinct for 00:01:49
that we had for example an instinct for 00:01:53
that we had for example an instinct for survival an instinct to make love and so 00:01:53
survival an instinct to make love and so 00:01:59
survival an instinct to make love and so on but nowadays that word has become 00:01:59
on but nowadays that word has become 00:02:02
on but nowadays that word has become unfashionable and psychologists tend 00:02:02
unfashionable and psychologists tend 00:02:05
unfashionable and psychologists tend instead to use the word drives and to 00:02:05
instead to use the word drives and to 00:02:09
instead to use the word drives and to speak of the need for food as a drive 00:02:09
speak of the need for food as a drive 00:02:12
speak of the need for food as a drive the need for survival or for sex as 00:02:12
the need for survival or for sex as 00:02:15
the need for survival or for sex as drives and that's a very significant 00:02:15
drives and that's a very significant 00:02:18
drives and that's a very significant word because it's brought out isn't it 00:02:18
word because it's brought out isn't it 00:02:20
word because it's brought out isn't it by people who feel driven I must say 00:02:20
by people who feel driven I must say 00:02:25
by people who feel driven I must say personally if I feel hungry 00:02:25
personally if I feel hungry 00:02:27
personally if I feel hungry I don't feel driven also if I feel lusty 00:02:27
I don't feel driven also if I feel lusty 00:02:31
I don't feel driven also if I feel lusty I don't feel driven because I don't say 00:02:31
I don't feel driven because I don't say 00:02:36
I don't feel driven because I don't say excuse me but I have to eat or excuse me 00:02:36
excuse me but I have to eat or excuse me 00:02:40
excuse me but I have to eat or excuse me but I need to fulfill my sexual urges my 00:02:40
but I need to fulfill my sexual urges my 00:02:42
but I need to fulfill my sexual urges my biological impulses I say hooray I 00:02:42
biological impulses I say hooray I 00:02:47
biological impulses I say hooray I identify myself with my drives their me 00:02:48
identify myself with my drives their me 00:02:52
identify myself with my drives their me and I don't take a passive attitude 00:02:52
and I don't take a passive attitude 00:02:55
and I don't take a passive attitude towards them and apologize for them so 00:02:55
towards them and apologize for them so 00:03:01
towards them and apologize for them so the whole idea of our being driven is 00:03:01
the whole idea of our being driven is 00:03:05
the whole idea of our being driven is connected with the idea of causality of 00:03:05
connected with the idea of causality of 00:03:09
connected with the idea of causality of life moving under the power of the past 00:03:09
life moving under the power of the past 00:03:16
life moving under the power of the past and that is so ingrained in our common 00:03:16
and that is so ingrained in our common 00:03:21
and that is so ingrained in our common sense that it's very difficult to get 00:03:22
sense that it's very difficult to get 00:03:23
sense that it's very difficult to get rid of it because I want to turn the 00:03:23
rid of it because I want to turn the 00:03:26
rid of it because I want to turn the thing round completely the other way and 00:03:26
thing round completely the other way and 00:03:28
thing round completely the other way and say that the past is the result of the 00:03:28
say that the past is the result of the 00:03:35
say that the past is the result of the present let us suppose just for the sake 00:03:35
present let us suppose just for the sake 00:03:38
present let us suppose just for the sake of example that this universe started 00:03:38
of example that this universe started 00:03:41
of example that this universe started with a big bang as some cosmologists 00:03:41
with a big bang as some cosmologists 00:03:44
with a big bang as some cosmologists believe now when that bang happened it 00:03:44
believe now when that bang happened it 00:03:48
believe now when that bang happened it was the present wasn't it and so the 00:03:48
was the present wasn't it and so the 00:03:55
was the present wasn't it and so the universe began in what we will call a 00:03:55
universe began in what we will call a 00:03:58
universe began in what we will call a now moment then it goes on doing its 00:03:58
now moment then it goes on doing its 00:04:04
now moment then it goes on doing its stuff and always when any event that we 00:04:04
stuff and always when any event that we 00:04:09
stuff and always when any event that we now called past came into being it came 00:04:09
now called past came into being it came 00:04:11
now called past came into being it came into being in the present and out of the 00:04:11
into being in the present and out of the 00:04:14
into being in the present and out of the present that's one way of seeing it but 00:04:14
present that's one way of seeing it but 00:04:21
present that's one way of seeing it but before we get further involved in this I 00:04:21
before we get further involved in this I 00:04:23
before we get further involved in this I want to draw your attention to a fallacy 00:04:23
want to draw your attention to a fallacy 00:04:26
want to draw your attention to a fallacy in the very common-sense idea of 00:04:26
in the very common-sense idea of 00:04:30
in the very common-sense idea of causality that events are caused by 00:04:30
causality that events are caused by 00:04:38
causality that events are caused by previous events from which they flow or 00:04:38
previous events from which they flow or 00:04:42
previous events from which they flow or result necessarily 00:04:42
to understand the fallacy of that idea 00:04:47
to understand the fallacy of that idea 00:04:49
to understand the fallacy of that idea we have to begin by asking what do you 00:04:49
we have to begin by asking what do you 00:04:52
we have to begin by asking what do you mean by an event let's take the event of 00:04:52
mean by an event let's take the event of 00:04:57
mean by an event let's take the event of a human being coming into the world now 00:04:57
a human being coming into the world now 00:05:02
a human being coming into the world now when does that event begin does it occur 00:05:02
when does that event begin does it occur 00:05:06
when does that event begin does it occur at the moment of parturition when the 00:05:06
at the moment of parturition when the 00:05:09
at the moment of parturition when the baby actually comes out of its mother or 00:05:09
baby actually comes out of its mother or 00:05:13
baby actually comes out of its mother or does the baby begin at the moment of 00:05:13
does the baby begin at the moment of 00:05:16
does the baby begin at the moment of conception or does the baby begin when 00:05:16
conception or does the baby begin when 00:05:21
conception or does the baby begin when it was an evil gleam in its father's eye 00:05:21
it was an evil gleam in its father's eye 00:05:24
it was an evil gleam in its father's eye or does a baby begin when the 00:05:24
or does a baby begin when the 00:05:30
or does a baby begin when the spermatozoa are generated in the father 00:05:30
spermatozoa are generated in the father 00:05:35
spermatozoa are generated in the father or the ovum in the mother or could you 00:05:35
or the ovum in the mother or could you 00:05:39
or the ovum in the mother or could you say a baby begins when its father is 00:05:39
say a baby begins when its father is 00:05:41
say a baby begins when its father is born or when its mother is born all 00:05:41
born or when its mother is born all 00:05:44
born or when its mother is born all these things can be thought of as 00:05:44
these things can be thought of as 00:05:46
these things can be thought of as beginnings but we decide for purposes of 00:05:46
beginnings but we decide for purposes of 00:05:51
beginnings but we decide for purposes of legal registration that a life begins at 00:05:51
legal registration that a life begins at 00:05:54
legal registration that a life begins at the moment of parturition and that is a 00:05:54
the moment of parturition and that is a 00:05:56
the moment of parturition and that is a purely arbitrary decision and it has 00:05:56
purely arbitrary decision and it has 00:06:01
purely arbitrary decision and it has validity only because we all agree about 00:06:01
validity only because we all agree about 00:06:04
validity only because we all agree about it let me show you the same phenomenon 00:06:04
it let me show you the same phenomenon 00:06:09
it let me show you the same phenomenon in the dimension of space instead of the 00:06:09
in the dimension of space instead of the 00:06:12
in the dimension of space instead of the dimension of time let's ask how big is 00:06:12
dimension of time let's ask how big is 00:06:15
dimension of time let's ask how big is the Sun are we going to define the Sun 00:06:15
the Sun are we going to define the Sun 00:06:20
the Sun are we going to define the Sun as limited by the extent of its fire 00:06:20
as limited by the extent of its fire 00:06:28
as limited by the extent of its fire that's one possible definition but we 00:06:28
that's one possible definition but we 00:06:31
that's one possible definition but we could equally well define the sphere of 00:06:31
could equally well define the sphere of 00:06:34
could equally well define the sphere of the Sun by the extent of its heat we 00:06:34
the Sun by the extent of its heat we 00:06:38
the Sun by the extent of its heat we could also define the sphere of the Sun 00:06:38
could also define the sphere of the Sun 00:06:41
could also define the sphere of the Sun by the extent of its light and each of 00:06:41
by the extent of its light and each of 00:06:45
by the extent of its light and each of these would be reasonable choices except 00:06:45
these would be reasonable choices except 00:06:48
these would be reasonable choices except that it's rather difficult to keep track 00:06:48
that it's rather difficult to keep track 00:06:49
that it's rather difficult to keep track of the extent of its light because we're 00:06:49
of the extent of its light because we're 00:06:52
of the extent of its light because we're inside it and therefore we have 00:06:52
inside it and therefore we have 00:06:54
inside it and therefore we have arbitrarily agreed to define the Sun by 00:06:54
arbitrarily agreed to define the Sun by 00:06:58
arbitrarily agreed to define the Sun by the limit of its visible far 00:06:58
the limit of its visible far 00:07:01
the limit of its visible far but you will see in all these 00:07:01
but you will see in all these 00:07:04
but you will see in all these bye-bye-bye these analogies that how big 00:07:04
bye-bye-bye these analogies that how big 00:07:09
bye-bye-bye these analogies that how big a thing is or how long an event is is 00:07:09
a thing is or how long an event is is 00:07:13
a thing is or how long an event is is simply a matter of definition now 00:07:13
simply a matter of definition now 00:07:18
simply a matter of definition now therefore when by simple definition for 00:07:18
therefore when by simple definition for 00:07:21
therefore when by simple definition for purposes of discussion we have divided 00:07:21
purposes of discussion we have divided 00:07:25
purposes of discussion we have divided events into certain periods we'll say 00:07:25
events into certain periods we'll say 00:07:27
events into certain periods we'll say the first world war began in 1914 and it 00:07:27
the first world war began in 1914 and it 00:07:31
the first world war began in 1914 and it ended in 1918 now actually all those 00:07:31
ended in 1918 now actually all those 00:07:34
ended in 1918 now actually all those things which led up to the first world 00:07:34
things which led up to the first world 00:07:36
things which led up to the first world war started long before 1914 and the 00:07:36
war started long before 1914 and the 00:07:40
war started long before 1914 and the repercussions of that war have continued 00:07:40
repercussions of that war have continued 00:07:42
repercussions of that war have continued long beyond 1918 00:07:43
long beyond 1918 00:07:45
long beyond 1918 how are we to distinguish an event from 00:07:45
how are we to distinguish an event from 00:07:47
how are we to distinguish an event from its repercussions so you will see that 00:07:47
its repercussions so you will see that 00:07:51
its repercussions so you will see that because we have divided events from one 00:07:51
because we have divided events from one 00:07:55
because we have divided events from one another in this arbitrary way we do that 00:07:55
another in this arbitrary way we do that 00:07:58
another in this arbitrary way we do that and then we sort of forget we did it and 00:07:58
and then we sort of forget we did it and 00:08:02
and then we sort of forget we did it and then we have a puzzle how do events lead 00:08:02
then we have a puzzle how do events lead 00:08:06
then we have a puzzle how do events lead to each other because you see in reality 00:08:06
to each other because you see in reality 00:08:09
to each other because you see in reality there are no separate events life moves 00:08:09
there are no separate events life moves 00:08:14
there are no separate events life moves along like water and it's all connected 00:08:14
along like water and it's all connected 00:08:19
along like water and it's all connected as the source of a river is connected to 00:08:19
as the source of a river is connected to 00:08:21
as the source of a river is connected to the mouth and to the ocean and all the 00:08:21
the mouth and to the ocean and all the 00:08:26
the mouth and to the ocean and all the events or things going on are like 00:08:26
events or things going on are like 00:08:28
events or things going on are like whirlpools in the stream because you go 00:08:28
whirlpools in the stream because you go 00:08:32
whirlpools in the stream because you go there today and you see a whirlpool you 00:08:32
there today and you see a whirlpool you 00:08:34
there today and you see a whirlpool you go there tomorrow and you see a 00:08:34
go there tomorrow and you see a 00:08:36
go there tomorrow and you see a whirlpool but it isn't the same 00:08:36
whirlpool but it isn't the same 00:08:37
whirlpool but it isn't the same whirlpool because all the water is 00:08:37
whirlpool because all the water is 00:08:39
whirlpool because all the water is changing every second what is happening 00:08:39
changing every second what is happening 00:08:43
changing every second what is happening is not really what we should call a 00:08:43
is not really what we should call a 00:08:45
is not really what we should call a whirlpool but rather a wall pooling it 00:08:45
whirlpool but rather a wall pooling it 00:08:49
whirlpool but rather a wall pooling it is an activity not a thing and indeed 00:08:49
is an activity not a thing and indeed 00:08:53
is an activity not a thing and indeed every so-called thing can be called an 00:08:53
every so-called thing can be called an 00:08:56
every so-called thing can be called an event we call say a house housing we 00:08:56
event we call say a house housing we 00:09:02
event we call say a house housing we call a mat matting and we could equally 00:09:02
call a mat matting and we could equally 00:09:06
call a mat matting and we could equally call a cat a cat Inge so we could say 00:09:06
call a cat a cat Inge so we could say 00:09:09
call a cat a cat Inge so we could say the catting sat on the matting and we 00:09:09
the catting sat on the matting and we 00:09:12
the catting sat on the matting and we would thereby have a word 00:09:12
would thereby have a word 00:09:13
would thereby have a word in which there were no things but only 00:09:13
in which there were no things but only 00:09:15
in which there were no things but only events to give another illustration a 00:09:15
events to give another illustration a 00:09:18
events to give another illustration a flame is something we say there is a 00:09:18
flame is something we say there is a 00:09:21
flame is something we say there is a flame on the candle but it would be more 00:09:21
flame on the candle but it would be more 00:09:24
flame on the candle but it would be more correct to say there is a flaming on the 00:09:24
correct to say there is a flaming on the 00:09:27
correct to say there is a flaming on the candle because the flame is a stream of 00:09:27
candle because the flame is a stream of 00:09:29
candle because the flame is a stream of hot gas let's take another amusing 00:09:29
hot gas let's take another amusing 00:09:32
hot gas let's take another amusing example we say fist and fist is a noun 00:09:32
example we say fist and fist is a noun 00:09:36
example we say fist and fist is a noun and fist looks like a thing but suddenly 00:09:36
and fist looks like a thing but suddenly 00:09:39
and fist looks like a thing but suddenly what happens to the fist when I opened 00:09:39
what happens to the fist when I opened 00:09:41
what happens to the fist when I opened my hand 00:09:41
my hand 00:09:42
my hand see I was fisting now I'm handing 00:09:42
see I was fisting now I'm handing 00:09:48
see I was fisting now I'm handing handing it to you so every kind of 00:09:48
handing it to you so every kind of 00:09:52
handing it to you so every kind of so-called thing can be spoken of as an 00:09:52
so-called thing can be spoken of as an 00:09:54
so-called thing can be spoken of as an event and because events flow into each 00:09:54
event and because events flow into each 00:09:58
event and because events flow into each other the fisting flows into the handing 00:09:58
other the fisting flows into the handing 00:10:00
other the fisting flows into the handing we cannot say exactly where one ends and 00:10:00
we cannot say exactly where one ends and 00:10:04
we cannot say exactly where one ends and the other begins so therefore if we 00:10:04
the other begins so therefore if we 00:10:08
the other begins so therefore if we remember that we shall see that we do 00:10:08
remember that we shall see that we do 00:10:12
remember that we shall see that we do not need the idea of causality to 00:10:12
not need the idea of causality to 00:10:16
not need the idea of causality to explain how a prior event influences a 00:10:16
explain how a prior event influences a 00:10:21
explain how a prior event influences a following event because it's like this 00:10:21
following event because it's like this 00:10:24
following event because it's like this supposing I'm looking through a narrow 00:10:24
supposing I'm looking through a narrow 00:10:26
supposing I'm looking through a narrow slit in a fence and a snake goes by I've 00:10:26
slit in a fence and a snake goes by I've 00:10:34
slit in a fence and a snake goes by I've never seen a snake before and this is 00:10:34
never seen a snake before and this is 00:10:36
never seen a snake before and this is mysterious and I see through the slit in 00:10:36
mysterious and I see through the slit in 00:10:39
mysterious and I see through the slit in the fence first the snake's head then I 00:10:39
the fence first the snake's head then I 00:10:42
the fence first the snake's head then I see a long trailing body and then 00:10:42
see a long trailing body and then 00:10:47
see a long trailing body and then finally the tail I said well that was 00:10:47
finally the tail I said well that was 00:10:51
finally the tail I said well that was interesting 00:10:51
interesting 00:10:52
interesting then the snake turns round and goes back 00:10:52
then the snake turns round and goes back 00:10:54
then the snake turns round and goes back and again I see first the head and then 00:10:54
and again I see first the head and then 00:10:58
and again I see first the head and then after an interval the tail now if I call 00:10:58
after an interval the tail now if I call 00:11:01
after an interval the tail now if I call the head one event and the tail another 00:11:01
the head one event and the tail another 00:11:03
the head one event and the tail another it will seem to me that the event head 00:11:03
it will seem to me that the event head 00:11:06
it will seem to me that the event head is the cause of the event tail and the 00:11:06
is the cause of the event tail and the 00:11:11
is the cause of the event tail and the tail is the effect but if I look at the 00:11:11
tail is the effect but if I look at the 00:11:15
tail is the effect but if I look at the whole snake I will see a head tailed 00:11:15
whole snake I will see a head tailed 00:11:18
whole snake I will see a head tailed snake and it would be simply absurd to 00:11:18
snake and it would be simply absurd to 00:11:21
snake and it would be simply absurd to say that the head of the snake is the 00:11:21
say that the head of the snake is the 00:11:23
say that the head of the snake is the cause of the tail as if the head cave me 00:11:23
cause of the tail as if the head cave me 00:11:26
cause of the tail as if the head cave me is if the snake came in 00:11:26
is if the snake came in 00:11:27
is if the snake came in being first the head and then the tail 00:11:27
the snake comes into being out of its 00:11:31
the snake comes into being out of its 00:11:35
the snake comes into being out of its egg as a head tailed snake and so in 00:11:35
egg as a head tailed snake and so in 00:11:39
egg as a head tailed snake and so in exactly the same way all events are 00:11:39
exactly the same way all events are 00:11:43
exactly the same way all events are really one event we are looking when we 00:11:43
really one event we are looking when we 00:11:46
really one event we are looking when we talk about different events we're 00:11:46
talk about different events we're 00:11:48
talk about different events we're looking at different sections or parts 00:11:48
looking at different sections or parts 00:11:50
looking at different sections or parts of one continuous happening and 00:11:50
of one continuous happening and 00:11:55
of one continuous happening and therefore the idea of separate events 00:11:55
therefore the idea of separate events 00:12:01
therefore the idea of separate events which have to be linked by a mysterious 00:12:01
which have to be linked by a mysterious 00:12:03
which have to be linked by a mysterious process called cause and effect is 00:12:03
process called cause and effect is 00:12:06
process called cause and effect is completely unnecessary 00:12:06
but having thought that way we think of 00:12:09
but having thought that way we think of 00:12:14
but having thought that way we think of present events as being caused by past 00:12:14
present events as being caused by past 00:12:18
present events as being caused by past events and therefore we tend to regard 00:12:18
events and therefore we tend to regard 00:12:21
events and therefore we tend to regard ourselves as the puppets of the past as 00:12:21
ourselves as the puppets of the past as 00:12:26
ourselves as the puppets of the past as driven along by something that is always 00:12:26
driven along by something that is always 00:12:29
driven along by something that is always behind us now to overcome this 00:12:29
behind us now to overcome this 00:12:36
behind us now to overcome this impression it's very simple you begin 00:12:36
impression it's very simple you begin 00:12:40
impression it's very simple you begin again with an experiment which I 00:12:40
again with an experiment which I 00:12:42
again with an experiment which I suggested in a previous talk about 00:12:42
suggested in a previous talk about 00:12:46
suggested in a previous talk about meditation approach the world through 00:12:46
meditation approach the world through 00:12:50
meditation approach the world through your ears if you shut your eyes and make 00:12:50
your ears if you shut your eyes and make 00:12:57
your ears if you shut your eyes and make contact with reality purely with your 00:12:57
contact with reality purely with your 00:13:00
contact with reality purely with your ears I mean it's kind of silly perhaps 00:13:00
ears I mean it's kind of silly perhaps 00:13:02
ears I mean it's kind of silly perhaps to shut your eyes when you're looking at 00:13:02
to shut your eyes when you're looking at 00:13:04
to shut your eyes when you're looking at television but do it just for a moment 00:13:04
television but do it just for a moment 00:13:06
television but do it just for a moment and you will realize that the sounds you 00:13:06
and you will realize that the sounds you 00:13:10
and you will realize that the sounds you are hearing are all coming out of 00:13:10
are hearing are all coming out of 00:13:14
are hearing are all coming out of silence you hear 00:13:14
and it fades away fades fades fades 00:13:19
and it fades away fades fades fades 00:13:24
and it fades away fades fades fades fades and finally disappears it's a 00:13:24
fades and finally disappears it's a 00:13:30
fades and finally disappears it's a curious world this isn't it because you 00:13:30
curious world this isn't it because you 00:13:32
curious world this isn't it because you hear all the realities in it the sounds 00:13:32
hear all the realities in it the sounds 00:13:35
hear all the realities in it the sounds suddenly coming out of nothing you don't 00:13:35
suddenly coming out of nothing you don't 00:13:39
suddenly coming out of nothing you don't see any reason for them to begin they 00:13:39
see any reason for them to begin they 00:13:42
see any reason for them to begin they just appear and then they echo away 00:13:42
just appear and then they echo away 00:13:44
just appear and then they echo away through the corridors of the mind which 00:13:44
through the corridors of the mind which 00:13:47
through the corridors of the mind which we call memory now if you open your eyes 00:13:47
we call memory now if you open your eyes 00:13:53
we call memory now if you open your eyes it's a little harder to see this with 00:13:53
it's a little harder to see this with 00:13:56
it's a little harder to see this with your eyes because unlike sounds the eyes 00:13:56
your eyes because unlike sounds the eyes 00:14:00
your eyes because unlike sounds the eyes sound static or rather they look static 00:14:00
sound static or rather they look static 00:14:08
sound static or rather they look static everything looks still to your eyes but 00:14:08
everything looks still to your eyes but 00:14:11
everything looks still to your eyes but you must understand that the world you 00:14:11
you must understand that the world you 00:14:15
you must understand that the world you are looking at say when you look at a 00:14:15
are looking at say when you look at a 00:14:16
are looking at say when you look at a light that light is vibrating all 00:14:16
light that light is vibrating all 00:14:20
light that light is vibrating all material things are vibrations and they 00:14:20
material things are vibrations and they 00:14:23
material things are vibrations and they are vibrating at you now in the same way 00:14:23
are vibrating at you now in the same way 00:14:26
are vibrating at you now in the same way as the sound was vibrating on your ears 00:14:26
as the sound was vibrating on your ears 00:14:29
as the sound was vibrating on your ears in other words the present world that 00:14:29
in other words the present world that 00:14:33
in other words the present world that you see is a vibration coming just as 00:14:33
you see is a vibration coming just as 00:14:38
you see is a vibration coming just as the sound comes out of silence 00:14:38
the sound comes out of silence 00:14:39
the sound comes out of silence the light is coming out of space it's 00:14:39
the light is coming out of space it's 00:14:43
the light is coming out of space it's coming out of nothing straight at you 00:14:43
coming out of nothing straight at you 00:14:45
coming out of nothing straight at you now and echoing away into the past so 00:14:45
now and echoing away into the past so 00:14:50
now and echoing away into the past so the course of time is really very much 00:14:50
the course of time is really very much 00:14:54
the course of time is really very much like the course of a ship in the ocean 00:14:54
like the course of a ship in the ocean 00:14:58
like the course of a ship in the ocean because here's the ship you see and it 00:14:58
because here's the ship you see and it 00:15:02
because here's the ship you see and it leaves behind it awake 00:15:02
and the wake fades out and that tells us 00:15:10
and the wake fades out and that tells us 00:15:18
and the wake fades out and that tells us where the ship has been in just the same 00:15:18
where the ship has been in just the same 00:15:23
where the ship has been in just the same way as the past and our memory of the 00:15:23
way as the past and our memory of the 00:15:26
way as the past and our memory of the past tells us what we have done but as 00:15:26
past tells us what we have done but as 00:15:29
past tells us what we have done but as we go back into the past and we go back 00:15:29
we go back into the past and we go back 00:15:32
we go back into the past and we go back and back to prehistory and we use all 00:15:32
and back to prehistory and we use all 00:15:34
and back to prehistory and we use all kinds of instruments and scientific 00:15:34
kinds of instruments and scientific 00:15:37
kinds of instruments and scientific methods for detecting what happened we 00:15:37
methods for detecting what happened we 00:15:39
methods for detecting what happened we eventually reach a point where all 00:15:39
eventually reach a point where all 00:15:42
eventually reach a point where all record of the past fades away in just 00:15:42
record of the past fades away in just 00:15:45
record of the past fades away in just the same way as the wake of the ship now 00:15:45
the same way as the wake of the ship now 00:15:49
the same way as the wake of the ship now the important thing to remember in this 00:15:49
the important thing to remember in this 00:15:51
the important thing to remember in this illustration is that the wake doesn't 00:15:51
illustration is that the wake doesn't 00:15:54
illustration is that the wake doesn't drive the ship any more than the tail 00:15:54
drive the ship any more than the tail 00:15:57
drive the ship any more than the tail wags the dog especially there's a 00:15:57
wags the dog especially there's a 00:16:04
wags the dog especially there's a neurotic difficult child and one school 00:16:04
neurotic difficult child and one school 00:16:09
neurotic difficult child and one school of thought used to say well bang him 00:16:09
of thought used to say well bang him 00:16:11
of thought used to say well bang him about beat him up and maybe he'll change 00:16:11
about beat him up and maybe he'll change 00:16:13
about beat him up and maybe he'll change but then they said oh no it's not fair 00:16:13
but then they said oh no it's not fair 00:16:16
but then they said oh no it's not fair to the child to beat him up because it 00:16:16
to the child to beat him up because it 00:16:18
to the child to beat him up because it was his parents they didn't bring him up 00:16:18
was his parents they didn't bring him up 00:16:20
was his parents they didn't bring him up properly and so then they say well 00:16:20
properly and so then they say well 00:16:22
properly and so then they say well punish the parents well the parents say 00:16:22
punish the parents well the parents say 00:16:23
punish the parents well the parents say excuse me but I'm our parents when Urata 00:16:23
excuse me but I'm our parents when Urata 00:16:26
excuse me but I'm our parents when Urata - and they brought us up badly so we 00:16:26
- and they brought us up badly so we 00:16:28
- and they brought us up badly so we couldn't help what we did and so since 00:16:28
couldn't help what we did and so since 00:16:31
couldn't help what we did and so since the grandparents are dead we can't get 00:16:31
the grandparents are dead we can't get 00:16:32
the grandparents are dead we can't get at them and in any case supposing we 00:16:32
at them and in any case supposing we 00:16:34
at them and in any case supposing we could we would pass the whole blame back 00:16:34
could we would pass the whole blame back 00:16:36
could we would pass the whole blame back to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden 00:16:36
to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden 00:16:38
to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and they'd say so they started all this 00:16:38
and they'd say so they started all this 00:16:40
and they'd say so they started all this mess but then Eve would say no yeah the 00:16:40
mess but then Eve would say no yeah the 00:16:44
mess but then Eve would say no yeah the serpent tempted me and I did eat and it 00:16:44
serpent tempted me and I did eat and it 00:16:46
serpent tempted me and I did eat and it was the Serpent's fault 00:16:46
was the Serpent's fault 00:16:47
was the Serpent's fault well you know when God in the story of 00:16:47
well you know when God in the story of 00:16:51
well you know when God in the story of Genesis asked Eve didst thou eat the 00:16:51
Genesis asked Eve didst thou eat the 00:16:55
Genesis asked Eve didst thou eat the fruit of the tree we're off I told thee 00:16:55
fruit of the tree we're off I told thee 00:16:57
fruit of the tree we're off I told thee thou should not eat she said old with 00:16:57
thou should not eat she said old with 00:16:59
thou should not eat she said old with the serpent tempted me and I did eat and 00:16:59
the serpent tempted me and I did eat and 00:17:02
the serpent tempted me and I did eat and God looked at the serpent and the 00:17:02
God looked at the serpent and the 00:17:03
God looked at the serpent and the serpent didn't make any excuse he 00:17:03
serpent didn't make any excuse he 00:17:05
serpent didn't make any excuse he probably winked because 00:17:05
the serpent being an angel was wise 00:17:12
the serpent being an angel was wise 00:17:16
the serpent being an angel was wise enough to know where the present begins 00:17:16
enough to know where the present begins 00:17:19
enough to know where the present begins so you see if you insist on being moved 00:17:19
so you see if you insist on being moved 00:17:25
so you see if you insist on being moved being determined by the past that's your 00:17:25
being determined by the past that's your 00:17:29
being determined by the past that's your game but the fact of the matter is it 00:17:29
game but the fact of the matter is it 00:17:32
game but the fact of the matter is it all starts right now but we like to 00:17:32
all starts right now but we like to 00:17:36
all starts right now but we like to establish a connectivity with the past 00:17:36
establish a connectivity with the past 00:17:41
establish a connectivity with the past because that gives other people the 00:17:42
because that gives other people the 00:17:45
because that gives other people the impression that we're saying if you ask 00:17:45
impression that we're saying if you ask 00:17:49
impression that we're saying if you ask me then why am i talking well I could 00:17:49
me then why am i talking well I could 00:17:52
me then why am i talking well I could say I'm making a living this way or I 00:17:52
say I'm making a living this way or I 00:17:54
say I'm making a living this way or I have a message that I want to get across 00:17:54
have a message that I want to get across 00:17:55
have a message that I want to get across to you but that's not the reason I'm 00:17:55
to you but that's not the reason I'm 00:17:59
to you but that's not the reason I'm talking for the same reason that birds 00:17:59
talking for the same reason that birds 00:18:00
talking for the same reason that birds sing and for the same reason that the 00:18:00
sing and for the same reason that the 00:18:02
sing and for the same reason that the stars shine is I I dig it 00:18:02
stars shine is I I dig it 00:18:05
stars shine is I I dig it why do you dig it well I could go on 00:18:05
why do you dig it well I could go on 00:18:09
why do you dig it well I could go on answering all sorts of questions about 00:18:09
answering all sorts of questions about 00:18:12
answering all sorts of questions about human motivation and psychology but they 00:18:12
human motivation and psychology but they 00:18:14
human motivation and psychology but they wouldn't explain a thing because 00:18:14
wouldn't explain a thing because 00:18:16
wouldn't explain a thing because explaining things by the past is really 00:18:16
explaining things by the past is really 00:18:18
explaining things by the past is really a refusal to explain them at all all 00:18:18
a refusal to explain them at all all 00:18:21
a refusal to explain them at all all you're doing is postponing the 00:18:21
you're doing is postponing the 00:18:22
you're doing is postponing the explanation you're putting it back and 00:18:22
explanation you're putting it back and 00:18:24
explanation you're putting it back and back and back and back and that explains 00:18:24
back and back and back and that explains 00:18:26
back and back and back and that explains nothing what does explain things is the 00:18:26
nothing what does explain things is the 00:18:33
nothing what does explain things is the present why do you do it now now this is 00:18:33
present why do you do it now now this is 00:18:41
present why do you do it now now this is a slight cheat because that doesn't 00:18:41
a slight cheat because that doesn't 00:18:43
a slight cheat because that doesn't explain it either because what happens 00:18:43
explain it either because what happens 00:18:46
explain it either because what happens now just as the sound comes out of 00:18:46
now just as the sound comes out of 00:18:48
now just as the sound comes out of silence all this comes out of nowhere 00:18:48
silence all this comes out of nowhere 00:18:51
silence all this comes out of nowhere this is in connection with what I 00:18:51
this is in connection with what I 00:18:54
this is in connection with what I explained to you in another talk about 00:18:54
explained to you in another talk about 00:18:56
explained to you in another talk about the power of nothingness all life 00:18:56
the power of nothingness all life 00:18:58
the power of nothingness all life suddenly emerges out of space bang right 00:18:58
suddenly emerges out of space bang right 00:19:01
suddenly emerges out of space bang right now and to ask again why does it happen 00:19:01
now and to ask again why does it happen 00:19:07
now and to ask again why does it happen is an unprofitable question because the 00:19:07
is an unprofitable question because the 00:19:11
is an unprofitable question because the interesting thing is not why but what 00:19:11
interesting thing is not why but what 00:19:13
interesting thing is not why but what what happens not why does it happen I 00:19:13
what happens not why does it happen I 00:19:17
what happens not why does it happen I can say well I am doing this now because 00:19:17
can say well I am doing this now because 00:19:22
can say well I am doing this now because I did that then 00:19:22
I did that then 00:19:24
I did that then and so I am producing for you a 00:19:24
and so I am producing for you a 00:19:27
and so I am producing for you a continuous line of thought but actually 00:19:27
continuous line of thought but actually 00:19:31
continuous line of thought but actually I'm doing it backwards I'm doing it 00:19:31
I'm doing it backwards I'm doing it 00:19:34
I'm doing it backwards I'm doing it always from now and connecting up what I 00:19:34
always from now and connecting up what I 00:19:37
always from now and connecting up what I do now with what I did so that you can 00:19:37
do now with what I did so that you can 00:19:40
do now with what I did so that you can conceive a consistent story if I define 00:19:40
conceive a consistent story if I define 00:19:46
conceive a consistent story if I define myself as the whole field of events 00:19:46
myself as the whole field of events 00:19:48
myself as the whole field of events we'll say the organism environment field 00:19:48
we'll say the organism environment field 00:19:51
we'll say the organism environment field which is the real me 00:19:51
which is the real me 00:19:52
which is the real me then all the things that happen to me 00:19:52
then all the things that happen to me 00:19:55
then all the things that happen to me may be called 00:19:55
may be called 00:19:56
may be called my doing and that is the real sense of 00:19:56
my doing and that is the real sense of 00:19:59
my doing and that is the real sense of karma but when we speak about freedom 00:19:59
karma but when we speak about freedom 00:20:02
karma but when we speak about freedom from karma freedom from being the puppet 00:20:02
from karma freedom from being the puppet 00:20:06
from karma freedom from being the puppet of the past that simply involves a 00:20:06
of the past that simply involves a 00:20:07
of the past that simply involves a change in your thinking it involves in 00:20:07
change in your thinking it involves in 00:20:11
change in your thinking it involves in other words you are getting rid of the 00:20:11
other words you are getting rid of the 00:20:15
other words you are getting rid of the habit of thought whereby you define 00:20:15
habit of thought whereby you define 00:20:18
habit of thought whereby you define yourself as the result of what has gone 00:20:18
yourself as the result of what has gone 00:20:20
yourself as the result of what has gone before 00:20:20
before 00:20:21
before and instead get into the more plausible 00:20:21
and instead get into the more plausible 00:20:25
and instead get into the more plausible and more reasonable habit of thought in 00:20:25
and more reasonable habit of thought in 00:20:27
and more reasonable habit of thought in terms of which you don't define yourself 00:20:27
terms of which you don't define yourself 00:20:30
terms of which you don't define yourself in terms of what you've done before but 00:20:30
in terms of what you've done before but 00:20:31
in terms of what you've done before but in terms of what you're doing now and 00:20:31
in terms of what you're doing now and 00:20:34
in terms of what you're doing now and that is liberation from the ridiculous 00:20:34
that is liberation from the ridiculous 00:20:38
that is liberation from the ridiculous situation of being a dog wagged by its 00:20:38
situation of being a dog wagged by its 00:20:41
situation of being a dog wagged by its tail 00:20:41
tonight I want to tell you three 00:20:54
tonight I want to tell you three 00:20:57
tonight I want to tell you three fantasies all of which have something in 00:20:57
fantasies all of which have something in 00:21:00
fantasies all of which have something in common 00:21:00
common 00:21:01
common the first fantasy about is about 00:21:01
the first fantasy about is about 00:21:04
the first fantasy about is about reproduction we use the word 00:21:04
reproduction we use the word 00:21:08
reproduction we use the word reproduction in two principal ways when 00:21:08
reproduction in two principal ways when 00:21:12
reproduction in two principal ways when we talk about the biological 00:21:12
we talk about the biological 00:21:13
we talk about the biological reproduction of the species and when we 00:21:13
reproduction of the species and when we 00:21:17
reproduction of the species and when we talk about making a good reproduction of 00:21:17
talk about making a good reproduction of 00:21:20
talk about making a good reproduction of something in terms of a painting a 00:21:20
something in terms of a painting a 00:21:23
something in terms of a painting a photograph or a recording or a videotape 00:21:23
photograph or a recording or a videotape 00:21:28
photograph or a recording or a videotape and what is all this about reproduction 00:21:28
and what is all this about reproduction 00:21:31
and what is all this about reproduction in that direction hundreds of years ago 00:21:31
in that direction hundreds of years ago 00:21:36
in that direction hundreds of years ago kings of Europe who wanted to form 00:21:36
kings of Europe who wanted to form 00:21:41
kings of Europe who wanted to form feudal alliances by marrying the 00:21:41
feudal alliances by marrying the 00:21:44
feudal alliances by marrying the princesses of far-off States would have 00:21:44
princesses of far-off States would have 00:21:47
princesses of far-off States would have painters send portraits of the lady in 00:21:47
painters send portraits of the lady in 00:21:49
painters send portraits of the lady in question to see if his Majesty approved 00:21:49
question to see if his Majesty approved 00:21:52
question to see if his Majesty approved of her before he got her and there's a 00:21:52
of her before he got her and there's a 00:21:55
of her before he got her and there's a famous story in which Henry the eighth 00:21:55
famous story in which Henry the eighth 00:21:57
famous story in which Henry the eighth of England was badly cheated in this 00:21:57
of England was badly cheated in this 00:21:59
of England was badly cheated in this respect by a too flattering portrait of 00:21:59
respect by a too flattering portrait of 00:22:02
respect by a too flattering portrait of Anne of Cleves and their father grew up 00:22:02
Anne of Cleves and their father grew up 00:22:06
Anne of Cleves and their father grew up a kind of morale among artists in the 00:22:06
a kind of morale among artists in the 00:22:09
a kind of morale among artists in the European tradition to make faithful 00:22:09
European tradition to make faithful 00:22:12
European tradition to make faithful reproductions of people and they 00:22:12
reproductions of people and they 00:22:14
reproductions of people and they perfected their technique beginning with 00:22:14
perfected their technique beginning with 00:22:16
perfected their technique beginning with the marvelous work of the Renaissance 00:22:16
the marvelous work of the Renaissance 00:22:18
the marvelous work of the Renaissance painters and the Flemish painters and 00:22:18
painters and the Flemish painters and 00:22:21
painters and the Flemish painters and going on finally to what was called art 00:22:21
going on finally to what was called art 00:22:25
going on finally to what was called art officiel in the 19th century we got what 00:22:25
officiel in the 19th century we got what 00:22:28
officiel in the 19th century we got what we now call photographic realism but 00:22:28
we now call photographic realism but 00:22:32
we now call photographic realism but then they said isn't the some more 00:22:32
then they said isn't the some more 00:22:36
then they said isn't the some more scientific way of doing this and so they 00:22:36
scientific way of doing this and so they 00:22:39
scientific way of doing this and so they discovered the camera and first of all 00:22:39
discovered the camera and first of all 00:22:43
discovered the camera and first of all the way you know remember those brownish 00:22:43
the way you know remember those brownish 00:22:45
the way you know remember those brownish daguerreotype and people said well that 00:22:45
daguerreotype and people said well that 00:22:48
daguerreotype and people said well that is pretty it really looks like grandpa 00:22:48
is pretty it really looks like grandpa 00:22:51
is pretty it really looks like grandpa doesn't it and then they said but some 00:22:51
doesn't it and then they said but some 00:22:54
doesn't it and then they said but some things are there several things missing 00:22:54
things are there several things missing 00:22:56
things are there several things missing it isn't colored so first of all they 00:22:56
it isn't colored so first of all they 00:22:59
it isn't colored so first of all they tinted them 00:22:59
tinted them 00:23:01
tinted them and then they said oh it's real 00:23:01
and then they said oh it's real 00:23:04
and then they said oh it's real life-like but then they went on to say 00:23:04
life-like but then they went on to say 00:23:08
life-like but then they went on to say but you know there are some people whose 00:23:08
but you know there are some people whose 00:23:10
but you know there are some people whose whole style of life whose personality is 00:23:10
whole style of life whose personality is 00:23:13
whole style of life whose personality is in the way they move and if you just 00:23:13
in the way they move and if you just 00:23:16
in the way they move and if you just take a static shot like that the 00:23:16
take a static shot like that the 00:23:22
take a static shot like that the personality isn't there it's away they 00:23:22
personality isn't there it's away they 00:23:24
personality isn't there it's away they go 00:23:24
go 00:23:25
go so they said we gotta have some way of 00:23:25
so they said we gotta have some way of 00:23:27
so they said we gotta have some way of making people move so they invented the 00:23:27
making people move so they invented the 00:23:32
making people move so they invented the movies and I remember when the first 00:23:32
movies and I remember when the first 00:23:35
movies and I remember when the first movies came out they were all going 00:23:35
movies came out they were all going 00:23:39
movies came out they were all going everybody was going you know in a jokey 00:23:39
everybody was going you know in a jokey 00:23:41
everybody was going you know in a jokey way then they smoothed it out and they 00:23:41
way then they smoothed it out and they 00:23:43
way then they smoothed it out and they said ah that's real life-like but they 00:23:43
said ah that's real life-like but they 00:23:47
said ah that's real life-like but they said then but here's another thing about 00:23:47
said then but here's another thing about 00:23:48
said then but here's another thing about reproducing people which is that they 00:23:48
reproducing people which is that they 00:23:53
reproducing people which is that they talked and a whole lot of their 00:23:53
talked and a whole lot of their 00:23:54
talked and a whole lot of their personality is in the voice so can't we 00:23:54
personality is in the voice so can't we 00:23:57
personality is in the voice so can't we have them talking at the same time that 00:23:57
have them talking at the same time that 00:24:00
have them talking at the same time that they move so they invented the talkies 00:24:00
they move so they invented the talkies 00:24:03
they move so they invented the talkies and then to get it more lifelike still 00:24:03
and then to get it more lifelike still 00:24:08
and then to get it more lifelike still they colored them they said Wow 00:24:08
they colored them they said Wow 00:24:11
they colored them they said Wow now we're really getting somewhere then 00:24:11
now we're really getting somewhere then 00:24:16
now we're really getting somewhere then to make it even more real they put it in 00:24:16
to make it even more real they put it in 00:24:20
to make it even more real they put it in 3d and you had to wear sort of 00:24:20
3d and you had to wear sort of 00:24:22
3d and you had to wear sort of spectacles over your face to see it that 00:24:22
spectacles over your face to see it that 00:24:25
spectacles over your face to see it that way but then they went on to say why is 00:24:25
way but then they went on to say why is 00:24:28
way but then they went on to say why is it that every time we want to see one of 00:24:28
it that every time we want to see one of 00:24:30
it that every time we want to see one of these things we have to go down to the 00:24:30
these things we have to go down to the 00:24:33
these things we have to go down to the center of town can't we have it all at 00:24:33
center of town can't we have it all at 00:24:35
center of town can't we have it all at home and so television came on and in 00:24:35
home and so television came on and in 00:24:39
home and so television came on and in television they first of all started out 00:24:39
television they first of all started out 00:24:41
television they first of all started out with black and white and it was kind of 00:24:41
with black and white and it was kind of 00:24:43
with black and white and it was kind of like Robert Benchley once described the 00:24:43
like Robert Benchley once described the 00:24:46
like Robert Benchley once described the cuts in French newspapers as all looking 00:24:46
cuts in French newspapers as all looking 00:24:48
cuts in French newspapers as all looking as if they had been made on bread 00:24:48
as if they had been made on bread 00:24:50
as if they had been made on bread well that was television in a certain 00:24:50
well that was television in a certain 00:24:52
well that was television in a certain period and then they improved it and 00:24:52
period and then they improved it and 00:24:55
period and then they improved it and then they colored it and that's where we 00:24:55
then they colored it and that's where we 00:24:57
then they colored it and that's where we are now not quite because somebody has 00:24:57
are now not quite because somebody has 00:25:01
are now not quite because somebody has come out with the thing that we shall 00:25:01
come out with the thing that we shall 00:25:02
come out with the thing that we shall all be seeing soon which is the hologram 00:25:02
all be seeing soon which is the hologram 00:25:05
all be seeing soon which is the hologram a television image produced by laser 00:25:05
a television image produced by laser 00:25:09
a television image produced by laser beams where you see a three-dimensional 00:25:09
beams where you see a three-dimensional 00:25:13
beams where you see a three-dimensional figure 00:25:13
figure 00:25:14
figure out in the air in front of you isn't 00:25:14
out in the air in front of you isn't 00:25:18
out in the air in front of you isn't that marvelous and then but of course 00:25:18
that marvelous and then but of course 00:25:25
that marvelous and then but of course when you go up to it and you put your 00:25:25
when you go up to it and you put your 00:25:26
when you go up to it and you put your hand on it your hand goes right through 00:25:26
hand on it your hand goes right through 00:25:28
hand on it your hand goes right through it you can't touch it and you see that 00:25:28
it you can't touch it and you see that 00:25:32
it you can't touch it and you see that was always the trouble with television 00:25:32
was always the trouble with television 00:25:34
was always the trouble with television because you look at whatever you're 00:25:34
because you look at whatever you're 00:25:36
because you look at whatever you're seeing behind the screen it's intangible 00:25:36
seeing behind the screen it's intangible 00:25:40
seeing behind the screen it's intangible it doesn't smell and it won't relate to 00:25:40
it doesn't smell and it won't relate to 00:25:44
it doesn't smell and it won't relate to you so these are further problems that 00:25:44
you so these are further problems that 00:25:47
you so these are further problems that we solved in the techniques of 00:25:47
we solved in the techniques of 00:25:50
we solved in the techniques of electronic reproduction and they'll do 00:25:50
electronic reproduction and they'll do 00:25:52
electronic reproduction and they'll do it they are first of all manager way in 00:25:52
it they are first of all manager way in 00:25:55
it they are first of all manager way in which the electronic emission sources 00:25:55
which the electronic emission sources 00:25:59
which the electronic emission sources can solidify and make the air vibrate so 00:25:59
can solidify and make the air vibrate so 00:26:04
can solidify and make the air vibrate so that you go up and you'll touch the 00:26:04
that you go up and you'll touch the 00:26:06
that you go up and you'll touch the figure and you won't be able to push 00:26:06
figure and you won't be able to push 00:26:08
figure and you won't be able to push your hand through it because the air 00:26:08
your hand through it because the air 00:26:11
your hand through it because the air will be going faster than your hand 00:26:11
imagine that you can actually if there's 00:26:16
imagine that you can actually if there's 00:26:20
imagine that you can actually if there's a beautiful dancer on the television 00:26:20
a beautiful dancer on the television 00:26:22
a beautiful dancer on the television you'll be able to go up and embrace her 00:26:22
you'll be able to go up and embrace her 00:26:24
you'll be able to go up and embrace her but she won't know you're there and she 00:26:24
but she won't know you're there and she 00:26:27
but she won't know you're there and she won't respond to you and you'll say well 00:26:27
won't respond to you and you'll say well 00:26:29
won't respond to you and you'll say well that's not very lifelike just as they 00:26:29
that's not very lifelike just as they 00:26:31
that's not very lifelike just as they once said yeah if the photograph doesn't 00:26:31
once said yeah if the photograph doesn't 00:26:33
once said yeah if the photograph doesn't move it's not very lifelike if it 00:26:33
move it's not very lifelike if it 00:26:35
move it's not very lifelike if it doesn't talk it's not very lifelike 00:26:35
doesn't talk it's not very lifelike 00:26:37
doesn't talk it's not very lifelike they'll next say if the reproduction in 00:26:37
they'll next say if the reproduction in 00:26:39
they'll next say if the reproduction in three dimensions solid doesn't respond 00:26:39
three dimensions solid doesn't respond 00:26:41
three dimensions solid doesn't respond it's not very lifelike so they'll have 00:26:41
it's not very lifelike so they'll have 00:26:43
it's not very lifelike so they'll have to figure out a technique for doing that 00:26:43
to figure out a technique for doing that 00:26:46
to figure out a technique for doing that what will they do well I tell you 00:26:46
what will they do well I tell you 00:26:50
what will they do well I tell you sitting in your home where you are 00:26:50
sitting in your home where you are 00:26:53
sitting in your home where you are watching the scene on a kind of stage 00:26:53
watching the scene on a kind of stage 00:26:55
watching the scene on a kind of stage now not on a screen there will be a TV 00:26:55
now not on a screen there will be a TV 00:26:58
now not on a screen there will be a TV camera observing you and that TV camera 00:26:58
camera observing you and that TV camera 00:27:03
camera observing you and that TV camera will report back everything you do into 00:27:03
will report back everything you do into 00:27:05
will report back everything you do into a computer and the computer will so 00:27:05
a computer and the computer will so 00:27:08
a computer and the computer will so manage each bit of information that's to 00:27:08
manage each bit of information that's to 00:27:12
manage each bit of information that's to say each tiny little granule unit of 00:27:12
say each tiny little granule unit of 00:27:17
say each tiny little granule unit of information going into the image that 00:27:18
information going into the image that 00:27:20
information going into the image that you're looking at that it will 00:27:20
you're looking at that it will 00:27:21
you're looking at that it will immediately decide what is the 00:27:21
immediately decide what is the 00:27:24
immediately decide what is the appropriate response to the approach 00:27:24
appropriate response to the approach 00:27:26
appropriate response to the approach that 00:27:26
that 00:27:27
that you are making to the image well that'd 00:27:27
you are making to the image well that'd 00:27:30
you are making to the image well that'd be crazy you know she may slap you in 00:27:30
be crazy you know she may slap you in 00:27:35
be crazy you know she may slap you in the face and she may kiss you you never 00:27:35
the face and she may kiss you you never 00:27:38
the face and she may kiss you you never know but then they say now this is still 00:27:38
know but then they say now this is still 00:27:42
know but then they say now this is still not really the kind of reproduction we 00:27:42
not really the kind of reproduction we 00:27:44
not really the kind of reproduction we wanted what we wanted when we looked at 00:27:44
wanted what we wanted when we looked at 00:27:47
wanted what we wanted when we looked at this scene is to be able to identify 00:27:47
this scene is to be able to identify 00:27:49
this scene is to be able to identify with one of the characters we wanted to 00:27:49
with one of the characters we wanted to 00:27:52
with one of the characters we wanted to not just watch the drama that's being 00:27:52
not just watch the drama that's being 00:27:55
not just watch the drama that's being performed on the stage in front of us 00:27:55
performed on the stage in front of us 00:27:56
performed on the stage in front of us but actually get into it 00:27:56
but actually get into it 00:27:58
but actually get into it and so we want to be wired in with a 00:27:58
and so we want to be wired in with a 00:28:01
and so we want to be wired in with a electro electrodes on the brain so that 00:28:01
electro electrodes on the brain so that 00:28:05
electro electrodes on the brain so that we will actually feel the emotions of 00:28:05
we will actually feel the emotions of 00:28:07
we will actually feel the emotions of the people acting on the stage and so 00:28:07
the people acting on the stage and so 00:28:11
the people acting on the stage and so eventually we will get absolutely 00:28:11
eventually we will get absolutely 00:28:13
eventually we will get absolutely perfect reproduction and we will be able 00:28:13
perfect reproduction and we will be able 00:28:16
perfect reproduction and we will be able to see that image so vividly that we 00:28:16
to see that image so vividly that we 00:28:20
to see that image so vividly that we shall be coming and so the question 00:28:21
shall be coming and so the question 00:28:25
shall be coming and so the question arises could that be where we are 00:28:25
arises could that be where we are 00:28:29
arises could that be where we are already 00:28:29
are we a reproduction which over the 00:28:33
are we a reproduction which over the 00:28:36
are we a reproduction which over the centuries of evolution has worked out to 00:28:36
centuries of evolution has worked out to 00:28:40
centuries of evolution has worked out to be a replica of something else that was 00:28:40
be a replica of something else that was 00:28:42
be a replica of something else that was going on and we are where we always were 00:28:42
now the next fantasy concerns the idea 00:28:48
now the next fantasy concerns the idea 00:28:56
now the next fantasy concerns the idea that every living being thinks it's 00:28:56
that every living being thinks it's 00:29:00
that every living being thinks it's human and that means a plant a worm a 00:29:00
human and that means a plant a worm a 00:29:08
human and that means a plant a worm a virus a bacterium a fruit fly a 00:29:08
virus a bacterium a fruit fly a 00:29:12
virus a bacterium a fruit fly a hippopotamus 00:29:12
hippopotamus 00:29:14
hippopotamus a giraffe a rabbit that all these beings 00:29:14
a giraffe a rabbit that all these beings 00:29:19
a giraffe a rabbit that all these beings wherever they feel out from as we feel 00:29:19
wherever they feel out from as we feel 00:29:23
wherever they feel out from as we feel out from our bodies feel that they're in 00:29:23
out from our bodies feel that they're in 00:29:26
out from our bodies feel that they're in the middle that is to say wherever you 00:29:26
the middle that is to say wherever you 00:29:30
the middle that is to say wherever you look you turn your head around and you 00:29:30
look you turn your head around and you 00:29:32
look you turn your head around and you feel you're in the middle of the world 00:29:32
feel you're in the middle of the world 00:29:33
feel you're in the middle of the world you feel you're at you're the center and 00:29:33
you feel you're at you're the center and 00:29:35
you feel you're at you're the center and a rabbit or a fruit fly feels that it is 00:29:35
a rabbit or a fruit fly feels that it is 00:29:40
a rabbit or a fruit fly feels that it is a center and it has around it a company 00:29:40
a center and it has around it a company 00:29:43
a center and it has around it a company of associates who look like it and 00:29:43
of associates who look like it and 00:29:46
of associates who look like it and therefore this creature knows that these 00:29:46
therefore this creature knows that these 00:29:49
therefore this creature knows that these are the right people just as we know 00:29:49
are the right people just as we know 00:29:52
are the right people just as we know when we look at human beings they're the 00:29:52
when we look at human beings they're the 00:29:54
when we look at human beings they're the right people they are one of us only of 00:29:54
right people they are one of us only of 00:29:57
right people they are one of us only of course we have to make distinctions 00:29:57
course we have to make distinctions 00:29:58
course we have to make distinctions because you never really know that you 00:29:58
because you never really know that you 00:30:02
because you never really know that you are you and yet you are really in the 00:30:02
are you and yet you are really in the 00:30:04
are you and yet you are really in the right place unless you can contrast 00:30:04
right place unless you can contrast 00:30:06
right place unless you can contrast yourself with some other people who are 00:30:06
yourself with some other people who are 00:30:08
yourself with some other people who are after all not quite in the right place 00:30:08
after all not quite in the right place 00:30:10
after all not quite in the right place and some other people who are very much 00:30:10
and some other people who are very much 00:30:12
and some other people who are very much in the wrong places and then through 00:30:12
in the wrong places and then through 00:30:15
in the wrong places and then through having this succession of comparisons 00:30:15
having this succession of comparisons 00:30:17
having this succession of comparisons you know that you're okay 00:30:17
you know that you're okay 00:30:19
you know that you're okay well the insect has exactly the same 00:30:19
well the insect has exactly the same 00:30:21
well the insect has exactly the same arrangement will you say well insects 00:30:21
arrangement will you say well insects 00:30:24
arrangement will you say well insects and things like fishes they don't have a 00:30:24
and things like fishes they don't have a 00:30:27
and things like fishes they don't have a culture what do you mean fish is being 00:30:27
culture what do you mean fish is being 00:30:30
culture what do you mean fish is being civilized and not being entitled to 00:30:30
civilized and not being entitled to 00:30:32
civilized and not being entitled to consider themselves as humans well let 00:30:32
consider themselves as humans well let 00:30:35
consider themselves as humans well let me put the argument from the fishes part 00:30:35
me put the argument from the fishes part 00:30:37
me put the argument from the fishes part of here who fishes say human beings are 00:30:37
of here who fishes say human beings are 00:30:40
of here who fishes say human beings are a mess look what they do they they can't 00:30:40
a mess look what they do they they can't 00:30:44
a mess look what they do they they can't exist without class 00:30:44
exist without class 00:30:47
exist without class themselves and carrying around all kinds 00:30:47
themselves and carrying around all kinds 00:30:49
themselves and carrying around all kinds of things outside their bodies they have 00:30:49
of things outside their bodies they have 00:30:52
of things outside their bodies they have to have houses and automobiles and books 00:30:52
to have houses and automobiles and books 00:30:56
to have houses and automobiles and books books and records and television and 00:30:56
books and records and television and 00:31:01
books and records and television and hi-fi equipment and stuff endless stuff 00:31:01
hi-fi equipment and stuff endless stuff 00:31:04
hi-fi equipment and stuff endless stuff and they litter the earth with rubbish 00:31:04
and they litter the earth with rubbish 00:31:07
and they litter the earth with rubbish think of a dolphin isn't it really a 00:31:07
think of a dolphin isn't it really a 00:31:09
think of a dolphin isn't it really a fish because of dolphins and mammals but 00:31:09
fish because of dolphins and mammals but 00:31:11
fish because of dolphins and mammals but a dolphins point of view towards the 00:31:11
a dolphins point of view towards the 00:31:13
a dolphins point of view towards the human race 00:31:13
human race 00:31:14
human race dolphins spend most of their time 00:31:14
dolphins spend most of their time 00:31:16
dolphins spend most of their time playing they don't work because the 00:31:16
playing they don't work because the 00:31:19
playing they don't work because the grocery is right there in the ocean 00:31:19
grocery is right there in the ocean 00:31:21
grocery is right there in the ocean whatever they need and so a dolphin will 00:31:21
whatever they need and so a dolphin will 00:31:24
whatever they need and so a dolphin will no catch up with a seagoing liner and 00:31:24
no catch up with a seagoing liner and 00:31:29
no catch up with a seagoing liner and it'll get on the wake of the liner and 00:31:29
it'll get on the wake of the liner and 00:31:31
it'll get on the wake of the liner and put its tail at an exact angle of 26 00:31:31
put its tail at an exact angle of 26 00:31:33
put its tail at an exact angle of 26 degrees and in so doing the line I will 00:31:33
degrees and in so doing the line I will 00:31:37
degrees and in so doing the line I will carry the dolphin long the dolphin will 00:31:37
carry the dolphin long the dolphin will 00:31:39
carry the dolphin long the dolphin will make circles around the line it is for 00:31:39
make circles around the line it is for 00:31:41
make circles around the line it is for fun playing all its life in the water 00:31:41
fun playing all its life in the water 00:31:43
fun playing all its life in the water and we know that a dolphin's brain is as 00:31:43
and we know that a dolphin's brain is as 00:31:48
and we know that a dolphin's brain is as big if not bigger than ours but it's 00:31:48
big if not bigger than ours but it's 00:31:51
big if not bigger than ours but it's incredibly intelligent that it has a 00:31:51
incredibly intelligent that it has a 00:31:53
incredibly intelligent that it has a language which we can't decipher and the 00:31:53
language which we can't decipher and the 00:31:55
language which we can't decipher and the person who knows most about dolphins in 00:31:55
person who knows most about dolphins in 00:31:57
person who knows most about dolphins in the United States dr. John Lilly is a 00:31:57
the United States dr. John Lilly is a 00:31:59
the United States dr. John Lilly is a friend of mine and he said he came to 00:31:59
friend of mine and he said he came to 00:32:01
friend of mine and he said he came to the conclusion that dolphins were too 00:32:01
the conclusion that dolphins were too 00:32:03
the conclusion that dolphins were too smart to tell us their language so he 00:32:03
smart to tell us their language so he 00:32:11
smart to tell us their language so he abandoned this project he said he would 00:32:11
abandoned this project he said he would 00:32:13
abandoned this project he said he would no longer keep such a highly civilized 00:32:13
no longer keep such a highly civilized 00:32:15
no longer keep such a highly civilized being in the concentration camp of the 00:32:15
being in the concentration camp of the 00:32:17
being in the concentration camp of the zoo and that it should go back to the 00:32:17
zoo and that it should go back to the 00:32:19
zoo and that it should go back to the ocean so the point is though that every 00:32:19
ocean so the point is though that every 00:32:23
ocean so the point is though that every not only dolphins but every organism 00:32:23
not only dolphins but every organism 00:32:27
not only dolphins but every organism that has any sensitivity in it 00:32:27
that has any sensitivity in it 00:32:29
that has any sensitivity in it whatsoever 00:32:29
whatsoever 00:32:30
whatsoever considers itself to be the center of the 00:32:30
considers itself to be the center of the 00:32:33
considers itself to be the center of the universe 00:32:33
universe 00:32:34
universe now it has its problems there's a Zen 00:32:34
now it has its problems there's a Zen 00:32:40
now it has its problems there's a Zen poem which says the Morning Glory which 00:32:40
poem which says the Morning Glory which 00:32:44
poem which says the Morning Glory which blooms for an hour differs not at heart 00:32:44
blooms for an hour differs not at heart 00:32:47
blooms for an hour differs not at heart from a giant pine that lives for a 00:32:47
from a giant pine that lives for a 00:32:49
from a giant pine that lives for a thousand years 00:32:49
in other words an hour is a long life to 00:32:53
in other words an hour is a long life to 00:32:59
in other words an hour is a long life to a Morning Glory a thousand years is the 00:32:59
a Morning Glory a thousand years is the 00:33:03
a Morning Glory a thousand years is the long life to a pint and our four score 00:33:03
long life to a pint and our four score 00:33:07
long life to a pint and our four score years and ten or as the insurance 00:33:07
years and ten or as the insurance 00:33:11
years and ten or as the insurance companies actuarial tables put it 00:33:11
companies actuarial tables put it 00:33:13
companies actuarial tables put it somewhere between 65 and 70 years as an 00:33:13
somewhere between 65 and 70 years as an 00:33:15
somewhere between 65 and 70 years as an average human life seems about the right 00:33:15
average human life seems about the right 00:33:17
average human life seems about the right length of life I mean there are people 00:33:17
length of life I mean there are people 00:33:20
length of life I mean there are people who want to go on and on and our inquest 00:33:20
who want to go on and on and our inquest 00:33:24
who want to go on and on and our inquest of immortality and have their bodies 00:33:24
of immortality and have their bodies 00:33:27
of immortality and have their bodies frozen in case there should develop in 00:33:27
frozen in case there should develop in 00:33:29
frozen in case there should develop in the future some technique by which they 00:33:29
the future some technique by which they 00:33:31
the future some technique by which they could be revived but I I really don't go 00:33:31
could be revived but I I really don't go 00:33:35
could be revived but I I really don't go for that idea because Nature has 00:33:35
for that idea because Nature has 00:33:41
for that idea because Nature has mercifully arranged the principle of 00:33:41
mercifully arranged the principle of 00:33:44
mercifully arranged the principle of forgettery as well as the principle of 00:33:44
forgettery as well as the principle of 00:33:46
forgettery as well as the principle of memory if you always and always and 00:33:46
memory if you always and always and 00:33:51
memory if you always and always and always remembered everything you see you 00:33:51
always remembered everything you see you 00:33:53
always remembered everything you see you would be like a piece of paper which had 00:33:53
would be like a piece of paper which had 00:33:56
would be like a piece of paper which had been painted over and painted over and 00:33:56
been painted over and painted over and 00:33:57
been painted over and painted over and painted over until there was no space 00:33:57
painted over until there was no space 00:34:00
painted over until there was no space left and you wouldn't be able to 00:34:00
left and you wouldn't be able to 00:34:01
left and you wouldn't be able to distinguish between one thing and 00:34:01
distinguish between one thing and 00:34:02
distinguish between one thing and another it's not going a whole bunch of 00:34:02
another it's not going a whole bunch of 00:34:04
another it's not going a whole bunch of people start to scream and make noises 00:34:04
people start to scream and make noises 00:34:06
people start to scream and make noises and out scream each other and soon you 00:34:06
and out scream each other and soon you 00:34:09
and out scream each other and soon you can hear nobody so in what that way 00:34:09
can hear nobody so in what that way 00:34:12
can hear nobody so in what that way one's memories become screams and nature 00:34:12
one's memories become screams and nature 00:34:17
one's memories become screams and nature mercifully arranges that the whole thing 00:34:17
mercifully arranges that the whole thing 00:34:19
mercifully arranges that the whole thing be erased and you begin again he doesn't 00:34:19
be erased and you begin again he doesn't 00:34:23
be erased and you begin again he doesn't matter in what form you begin whether 00:34:23
matter in what form you begin whether 00:34:25
matter in what form you begin whether you'll begin again as a human being or 00:34:25
you'll begin again as a human being or 00:34:28
you'll begin again as a human being or as a fruit fly butterfly or a beetle or 00:34:28
as a fruit fly butterfly or a beetle or 00:34:32
as a fruit fly butterfly or a beetle or a bird it feels the same way that you 00:34:32
a bird it feels the same way that you 00:34:36
a bird it feels the same way that you feel now so we're really all in the same 00:34:36
feel now so we're really all in the same 00:34:41
feel now so we're really all in the same place and we all have above us things 00:34:41
place and we all have above us things 00:34:46
place and we all have above us things much higher than ourselves and we all 00:34:46
much higher than ourselves and we all 00:34:49
much higher than ourselves and we all have the Loess things that we feel are 00:34:49
have the Loess things that we feel are 00:34:51
have the Loess things that we feel are much lower than ourselves just as there 00:34:51
much lower than ourselves just as there 00:34:53
much lower than ourselves just as there are things out there on the left and 00:34:53
are things out there on the left and 00:34:55
are things out there on the left and things out there on the right and things 00:34:55
things out there on the right and things 00:34:56
things out there on the right and things in front and things behind because 00:34:56
in front and things behind because 00:34:59
in front and things behind because you're the middle you're the middle 00:34:59
you're the middle you're the middle 00:35:01
you're the middle you're the middle everywhere always 00:35:01
and on my third fantasy nobody has it 00:35:07
and on my third fantasy nobody has it 00:35:14
and on my third fantasy nobody has it seems to me really seriously ask the 00:35:14
seems to me really seriously ask the 00:35:16
seems to me really seriously ask the question how do stars begin why how out 00:35:16
question how do stars begin why how out 00:35:23
question how do stars begin why how out of space do these enormous radioactive 00:35:23
of space do these enormous radioactive 00:35:27
of space do these enormous radioactive centers arise well I'm going to solve 00:35:27
centers arise well I'm going to solve 00:35:34
centers arise well I'm going to solve this problem on the principle of the egg 00:35:34
this problem on the principle of the egg 00:35:36
this problem on the principle of the egg and the hen because it is said a chicken 00:35:36
and the hen because it is said a chicken 00:35:40
and the hen because it is said a chicken is one eggs way of becoming other eggs 00:35:40
is one eggs way of becoming other eggs 00:35:45
is one eggs way of becoming other eggs and if you've understood my second 00:35:45
and if you've understood my second 00:35:50
and if you've understood my second fantasy you will see how that could be 00:35:50
fantasy you will see how that could be 00:35:51
fantasy you will see how that could be true now let's suppose then that a 00:35:51
true now let's suppose then that a 00:35:56
true now let's suppose then that a planet is one stars way of becoming 00:35:56
planet is one stars way of becoming 00:36:00
planet is one stars way of becoming another star you know stars when they 00:36:00
another star you know stars when they 00:36:06
another star you know stars when they explode they send a lot of goo out into 00:36:06
explode they send a lot of goo out into 00:36:09
explode they send a lot of goo out into space and some of this goo solidifies 00:36:09
space and some of this goo solidifies 00:36:12
space and some of this goo solidifies into balls which get in orbit and spin 00:36:12
into balls which get in orbit and spin 00:36:14
into balls which get in orbit and spin around the star and in one chance in a 00:36:14
around the star and in one chance in a 00:36:18
around the star and in one chance in a thousand maybe one of those balls will 00:36:18
thousand maybe one of those balls will 00:36:21
thousand maybe one of those balls will become like the planet Earth and slowly 00:36:21
become like the planet Earth and slowly 00:36:25
become like the planet Earth and slowly upon it will arise what some people 00:36:25
upon it will arise what some people 00:36:27
upon it will arise what some people might call a disease called the bacteria 00:36:27
might call a disease called the bacteria 00:36:31
might call a disease called the bacteria of intelligent life and they haven't 00:36:31
of intelligent life and they haven't 00:36:36
of intelligent life and they haven't notion these things that if we call 00:36:36
notion these things that if we call 00:36:38
notion these things that if we call alive that they ought to go on there you 00:36:38
alive that they ought to go on there you 00:36:41
alive that they ought to go on there you know I have a fixed idea in their heads 00:36:41
know I have a fixed idea in their heads 00:36:44
know I have a fixed idea in their heads that they should keep on doing whatever 00:36:44
that they should keep on doing whatever 00:36:47
that they should keep on doing whatever it is they're doing and they should 00:36:47
it is they're doing and they should 00:36:49
it is they're doing and they should always be doing it better so they divide 00:36:49
always be doing it better so they divide 00:36:52
always be doing it better so they divide themselves into different species and 00:36:52
themselves into different species and 00:36:54
themselves into different species and these species compete with each other in 00:36:54
these species compete with each other in 00:36:56
these species compete with each other in order to as it will flex their muscles 00:36:56
order to as it will flex their muscles 00:36:59
order to as it will flex their muscles and get better and better at whatever it 00:36:59
and get better and better at whatever it 00:37:01
and get better and better at whatever it is they are and they go on doing this 00:37:01
is they are and they go on doing this 00:37:04
is they are and they go on doing this until one species really establishes 00:37:04
until one species really establishes 00:37:07
until one species really establishes itself as top species in the particular 00:37:07
itself as top species in the particular 00:37:09
itself as top species in the particular area on the particular planet as we 00:37:10
area on the particular planet as we 00:37:13
area on the particular planet as we human beings Homo sapiens have 00:37:13
human beings Homo sapiens have 00:37:16
human beings Homo sapiens have established our 00:37:16
established our 00:37:17
established our selves as top species on earth whatever 00:37:17
selves as top species on earth whatever 00:37:20
selves as top species on earth whatever top means well then when we have a 00:37:20
top means well then when we have a 00:37:23
top means well then when we have a little leisure and don't have to spend 00:37:23
little leisure and don't have to spend 00:37:25
little leisure and don't have to spend all our time finding food to put into 00:37:25
all our time finding food to put into 00:37:28
all our time finding food to put into our mouths we start asking questions and 00:37:28
our mouths we start asking questions and 00:37:31
our mouths we start asking questions and we look around at each other and 00:37:31
we look around at each other and 00:37:33
we look around at each other and everything and say what is this I mean 00:37:33
everything and say what is this I mean 00:37:37
everything and say what is this I mean what's going on here well some people 00:37:37
what's going on here well some people 00:37:40
what's going on here well some people say that's a stupid question to ask why 00:37:40
say that's a stupid question to ask why 00:37:42
say that's a stupid question to ask why don't you just go on doing your work go 00:37:42
don't you just go on doing your work go 00:37:44
don't you just go on doing your work go hunting go farming go doing your 00:37:44
hunting go farming go doing your 00:37:46
hunting go farming go doing your business they say no there are higher 00:37:46
business they say no there are higher 00:37:49
business they say no there are higher things so they create a special class of 00:37:49
things so they create a special class of 00:37:52
things so they create a special class of people who are in India called Brahmans 00:37:52
people who are in India called Brahmans 00:37:55
people who are in India called Brahmans among us philosophers scientists 00:37:55
among us philosophers scientists 00:37:59
among us philosophers scientists theologians thinkers and they go into 00:37:59
theologians thinkers and they go into 00:38:03
theologians thinkers and they go into this question and they are allowed to 00:38:03
this question and they are allowed to 00:38:06
this question and they are allowed to stop farming to stop hunting to stop 00:38:06
stop farming to stop hunting to stop 00:38:09
stop farming to stop hunting to stop mining to stop scrubbing floors and to 00:38:09
mining to stop scrubbing floors and to 00:38:13
mining to stop scrubbing floors and to go to various special places called 00:38:13
go to various special places called 00:38:15
go to various special places called universities where they can sit around 00:38:15
universities where they can sit around 00:38:17
universities where they can sit around and think about what is going on or they 00:38:17
and think about what is going on or they 00:38:21
and think about what is going on or they think about this first of all they do 00:38:21
think about this first of all they do 00:38:23
think about this first of all they do what they call philosophy which is they 00:38:23
what they call philosophy which is they 00:38:27
what they call philosophy which is they try to say what it means with what what 00:38:27
try to say what it means with what what 00:38:31
try to say what it means with what what is the word be what is the word exist me 00:38:31
is the word be what is the word exist me 00:38:34
is the word be what is the word exist me what do we mean when we say we're here 00:38:34
what do we mean when we say we're here 00:38:37
what do we mean when we say we're here or they find they can't discuss that 00:38:37
or they find they can't discuss that 00:38:39
or they find they can't discuss that very far because the word stops meaning 00:38:39
very far because the word stops meaning 00:38:47
very far because the word stops meaning anything it sort of becomes the noise 00:38:47
anything it sort of becomes the noise 00:38:48
anything it sort of becomes the noise the sin and we're not really getting to 00:38:48
the sin and we're not really getting to 00:38:51
the sin and we're not really getting to the point what we've got to do is 00:38:51
the point what we've got to do is 00:38:53
the point what we've got to do is instead of thinking all the time and 00:38:53
instead of thinking all the time and 00:38:55
instead of thinking all the time and just theorizing and talking words about 00:38:55
just theorizing and talking words about 00:38:57
just theorizing and talking words about what's going on we've got to investigate 00:38:57
what's going on we've got to investigate 00:38:59
what's going on we've got to investigate it experimentally we've somehow got to 00:38:59
it experimentally we've somehow got to 00:39:01
it experimentally we've somehow got to look into this stuff that we call 00:39:01
look into this stuff that we call 00:39:04
look into this stuff that we call reality the material world and find out 00:39:04
reality the material world and find out 00:39:08
reality the material world and find out what it is so they start chopping it up 00:39:08
what it is so they start chopping it up 00:39:11
what it is so they start chopping it up see they go into flowers and they chop 00:39:11
see they go into flowers and they chop 00:39:14
see they go into flowers and they chop up the seeds and they look into the 00:39:14
up the seeds and they look into the 00:39:15
up the seeds and they look into the middle of the scenes they find something 00:39:15
middle of the scenes they find something 00:39:17
middle of the scenes they find something there and then I have to get a 00:39:17
there and then I have to get a 00:39:18
there and then I have to get a magnifying glass I'm looking on that and 00:39:18
magnifying glass I'm looking on that and 00:39:20
magnifying glass I'm looking on that and get smaller and smaller and smaller and 00:39:20
get smaller and smaller and smaller and 00:39:23
get smaller and smaller and smaller and they three reason they must eventually 00:39:23
they three reason they must eventually 00:39:24
they three reason they must eventually come to some particle called an akan in 00:39:24
come to some particle called an akan in 00:39:28
come to some particle called an akan in Greek autumn means 00:39:28
Greek autumn means 00:39:30
Greek autumn means our Thomas nan cuttable what you can't 00:39:30
our Thomas nan cuttable what you can't 00:39:34
our Thomas nan cuttable what you can't split any further so they come down to 00:39:34
split any further so they come down to 00:39:37
split any further so they come down to the I promise that then which there is 00:39:37
the I promise that then which there is 00:39:41
the I promise that then which there is no which er they thought but then they 00:39:41
no which er they thought but then they 00:39:43
no which er they thought but then they found they could split that atom they 00:39:43
found they could split that atom they 00:39:45
found they could split that atom they could find the electron the positron the 00:39:45
could find the electron the positron the 00:39:47
could find the electron the positron the mason etc etc etc forever and so they 00:39:47
mason etc etc etc forever and so they 00:39:57
mason etc etc etc forever and so they said well this is I mean this is a real 00:39:57
said well this is I mean this is a real 00:39:59
said well this is I mean this is a real science because we've now found out that 00:39:59
science because we've now found out that 00:40:04
science because we've now found out that every optimist of matter contains 00:40:04
every optimist of matter contains 00:40:08
every optimist of matter contains immense energy and that we could come to 00:40:08
immense energy and that we could come to 00:40:11
immense energy and that we could come to the point where we could release the 00:40:11
the point where we could release the 00:40:15
the point where we could release the energy in the atom and the trouble with 00:40:15
energy in the atom and the trouble with 00:40:18
energy in the atom and the trouble with intellectual people is that anything 00:40:18
intellectual people is that anything 00:40:21
intellectual people is that anything that can be done must be done and so 00:40:21
that can be done must be done and so 00:40:25
that can be done must be done and so eventually in the necessary course of 00:40:25
eventually in the necessary course of 00:40:27
eventually in the necessary course of the development of nature they found out 00:40:27
the development of nature they found out 00:40:29
the development of nature they found out how to blow the earth to pieces and turn 00:40:29
how to blow the earth to pieces and turn 00:40:32
how to blow the earth to pieces and turn it into a star 00:40:32
so that maybe you see how stars 00:40:39
so that maybe you see how stars 00:40:43
so that maybe you see how stars originated they have planets like 00:40:43
originated they have planets like 00:40:46
originated they have planets like chickens have eggs and the eggs burst 00:40:46
chickens have eggs and the eggs burst 00:40:50
chickens have eggs and the eggs burst and turn into chickens and planets burst 00:40:50
and turn into chickens and planets burst 00:40:53
and turn into chickens and planets burst through the agency of intelligent life 00:40:53
through the agency of intelligent life 00:40:56
through the agency of intelligent life and turn into stars which throw out 00:40:56
and turn into stars which throw out 00:40:59
and turn into stars which throw out other mud balls which some of which 00:40:59
other mud balls which some of which 00:41:02
other mud balls which some of which stand a reasonable chance about as 00:41:02
stand a reasonable chance about as 00:41:04
stand a reasonable chance about as reasonable a chance to say any male 00:41:04
reasonable a chance to say any male 00:41:06
reasonable a chance to say any male spermatozoon stands when it enters the 00:41:06
spermatozoon stands when it enters the 00:41:09
spermatozoon stands when it enters the female womb of becoming a baby one in a 00:41:09
female womb of becoming a baby one in a 00:41:12
female womb of becoming a baby one in a million 00:41:12
million 00:41:12
million and those spermatozoa are in exactly the 00:41:12
and those spermatozoa are in exactly the 00:41:17
and those spermatozoa are in exactly the same position as the planets and the 00:41:17
same position as the planets and the 00:41:20
same position as the planets and the stars now I tell you this is a fantasy 00:41:20
stars now I tell you this is a fantasy 00:41:22
stars now I tell you this is a fantasy but you may ask me isn't it a rather 00:41:22
but you may ask me isn't it a rather 00:41:25
but you may ask me isn't it a rather unpleasant fantasy aren't things going 00:41:25
unpleasant fantasy aren't things going 00:41:30
unpleasant fantasy aren't things going the wrong way the wrong direction in 00:41:30
the wrong way the wrong direction in 00:41:32
the wrong way the wrong direction in other words if the whole point of life I 00:41:32
other words if the whole point of life I 00:41:39
other words if the whole point of life I mean this tender biological substance 00:41:39
mean this tender biological substance 00:41:45
mean this tender biological substance with all its tubes and filaments and 00:41:45
with all its tubes and filaments and 00:41:47
with all its tubes and filaments and nerves which is so very sensitive if all 00:41:47
nerves which is so very sensitive if all 00:41:50
nerves which is so very sensitive if all this is to end up in fire into an 00:41:50
this is to end up in fire into an 00:41:54
this is to end up in fire into an absolute blaze of light don't we say oh 00:41:54
absolute blaze of light don't we say oh 00:42:00
absolute blaze of light don't we say oh what a shame 00:42:00
what a shame 00:42:03
what a shame you know is that the way it ends 00:42:03
but so many people say that they want to 00:42:10
but so many people say that they want to 00:42:14
but so many people say that they want to see the light they want to be 00:42:14
see the light they want to be 00:42:16
see the light they want to be enlightened they want to dissolve into 00:42:16
enlightened they want to dissolve into 00:42:19
enlightened they want to dissolve into the light of God then when they've done 00:42:19
the light of God then when they've done 00:42:24
the light of God then when they've done that all over again the process goes on 00:42:24
that all over again the process goes on 00:42:28
that all over again the process goes on it blows out those mud balls and here 00:42:28
it blows out those mud balls and here 00:42:33
it blows out those mud balls and here are planets and here once again you're a 00:42:33
are planets and here once again you're a 00:42:39
are planets and here once again you're a baby you're a child 00:42:39
baby you're a child 00:42:42
baby you're a child the flowers are brilliantly colored the 00:42:42
the flowers are brilliantly colored the 00:42:46
the flowers are brilliantly colored the Stars are gorgeous the smell of the 00:42:46
Stars are gorgeous the smell of the 00:42:49
Stars are gorgeous the smell of the earth the sound of the rain everything 00:42:49
earth the sound of the rain everything 00:42:52
earth the sound of the rain everything is marvelous once again and once again 00:42:52
is marvelous once again and once again 00:42:55
is marvelous once again and once again you see the other the man the woman that 00:42:55
you see the other the man the woman that 00:43:03
you see the other the man the woman that you love 00:43:03
as if it had never happened before it 00:43:05
as if it had never happened before it 00:43:08
as if it had never happened before it all starts over and as it goes on it 00:43:08
all starts over and as it goes on it 00:43:12
all starts over and as it goes on it gets more and more intense all the 00:43:12
gets more and more intense all the 00:43:14
gets more and more intense all the problems get more and more problematic 00:43:14
problems get more and more problematic 00:43:16
problems get more and more problematic and you find you're wrestling with 00:43:16
and you find you're wrestling with 00:43:19
and you find you're wrestling with something you can't control 00:43:19
something you can't control 00:43:21
something you can't control you've got to control it but you 00:43:21
you've got to control it but you 00:43:23
you've got to control it but you absolutely can't control it like all the 00:43:23
absolutely can't control it like all the 00:43:25
absolutely can't control it like all the problems of the world at the present 00:43:25
problems of the world at the present 00:43:27
problems of the world at the present time is the whole scene is completely 00:43:27
time is the whole scene is completely 00:43:29
time is the whole scene is completely out of hand 00:43:29
out of hand 00:43:30
out of hand and we feel we're going to our doom 00:43:30
and we feel we're going to our doom 00:43:33
and we feel we're going to our doom because we're going once again towards 00:43:33
because we're going once again towards 00:43:36
because we're going once again towards the birth of a star which is the most 00:43:36
the birth of a star which is the most 00:43:38
the birth of a star which is the most creative thing there is now if you think 00:43:38
creative thing there is now if you think 00:43:45
creative thing there is now if you think about this for a while you see well put 00:43:45
about this for a while you see well put 00:43:47
about this for a while you see well put forward three founders is all of which 00:43:47
forward three founders is all of which 00:43:51
forward three founders is all of which have a cyclic quality we reproduce not 00:43:51
have a cyclic quality we reproduce not 00:43:56
have a cyclic quality we reproduce not only biologically but we reproduce 00:43:56
only biologically but we reproduce 00:44:01
only biologically but we reproduce artistically technically 00:44:01
so just for a moment I want to put in an 00:44:06
so just for a moment I want to put in an 00:44:08
so just for a moment I want to put in an aside about biological yeah now think 00:44:08
aside about biological yeah now think 00:44:14
aside about biological yeah now think back to my grandfather whom I knew 00:44:14
back to my grandfather whom I knew 00:44:18
back to my grandfather whom I knew fairly well he was when I was a little 00:44:18
fairly well he was when I was a little 00:44:22
fairly well he was when I was a little boy he was something extraordinarily 00:44:22
boy he was something extraordinarily 00:44:24
boy he was something extraordinarily impressive he looked like King Edward 00:44:24
impressive he looked like King Edward 00:44:27
impressive he looked like King Edward the seventh he was a very very elegant 00:44:27
the seventh he was a very very elegant 00:44:31
the seventh he was a very very elegant man was a little goatee beard he didn't 00:44:31
man was a little goatee beard he didn't 00:44:35
man was a little goatee beard he didn't have sideburns like this and he had 00:44:35
have sideburns like this and he had 00:44:37
have sideburns like this and he had shorter hair very elegant fellow dress 00:44:37
shorter hair very elegant fellow dress 00:44:40
shorter hair very elegant fellow dress beautifully and I thought you know he 00:44:40
beautifully and I thought you know he 00:44:42
beautifully and I thought you know he was the very image of God and now here I 00:44:42
was the very image of God and now here I 00:44:46
was the very image of God and now here I am the same age as he was when I first 00:44:46
am the same age as he was when I first 00:44:50
am the same age as he was when I first knew him and I have five grandchildren 00:44:50
knew him and I have five grandchildren 00:44:53
knew him and I have five grandchildren and I no longer impressed by 00:44:53
and I no longer impressed by 00:44:59
and I no longer impressed by grandfathers I'm one of them too and 00:44:59
grandfathers I'm one of them too and 00:45:10
grandfathers I'm one of them too and this is the same idea you see of the 00:45:10
this is the same idea you see of the 00:45:13
this is the same idea you see of the round that we are almost perpetually in 00:45:13
round that we are almost perpetually in 00:45:22
round that we are almost perpetually in the same place as the French proverb 00:45:22
the same place as the French proverb 00:45:24
the same place as the French proverb says blue sourish blue sailor name shows 00:45:24
says blue sourish blue sailor name shows 00:45:26
says blue sourish blue sailor name shows the more it changes the more it's the 00:45:26
the more it changes the more it's the 00:45:28
the more it changes the more it's the same thing well 00:45:28
that means then you see that existence 00:45:36
that means then you see that existence 00:45:43
that means then you see that existence the feeling of being is a sort of 00:45:43
the feeling of being is a sort of 00:45:45
the feeling of being is a sort of spectrum just as light is at one end red 00:45:45
spectrum just as light is at one end red 00:45:50
spectrum just as light is at one end red and at the other end violet and you have 00:45:50
and at the other end violet and you have 00:45:55
and at the other end violet and you have to have these extremes in order to have 00:45:55
to have these extremes in order to have 00:45:58
to have these extremes in order to have color at all in order to know light so 00:45:58
color at all in order to know light so 00:46:01
color at all in order to know light so you see likewise we we have to have the 00:46:01
you see likewise we we have to have the 00:46:07
you see likewise we we have to have the experience that there is somebody else 00:46:07
experience that there is somebody else 00:46:09
experience that there is somebody else something else going on 00:46:09
something else going on 00:46:11
something else going on all together out of our control in order 00:46:11
all together out of our control in order 00:46:14
all together out of our control in order to have the experiences being me and so 00:46:14
to have the experiences being me and so 00:46:20
to have the experiences being me and so in order to feel good to feel that my 00:46:20
in order to feel good to feel that my 00:46:25
in order to feel good to feel that my life is worthwhile at existences is 00:46:25
life is worthwhile at existences is 00:46:27
life is worthwhile at existences is worth going on with in order to bring 00:46:27
worth going on with in order to bring 00:46:30
worth going on with in order to bring out that feeling just as the red brings 00:46:30
out that feeling just as the red brings 00:46:32
out that feeling just as the red brings out the violet there has to be in the 00:46:32
out the violet there has to be in the 00:46:34
out the violet there has to be in the back of our minds maybe very far away 00:46:34
back of our minds maybe very far away 00:46:35
back of our minds maybe very far away the comprehension that there is 00:46:35
the comprehension that there is 00:46:38
the comprehension that there is something that could happen that 00:46:38
something that could happen that 00:46:40
something that could happen that absolutely mustn't happen there is the 00:46:40
absolutely mustn't happen there is the 00:46:43
absolutely mustn't happen there is the horrors that is the screaming me means 00:46:43
horrors that is the screaming me means 00:46:45
horrors that is the screaming me means at the end of the line we have to know 00:46:45
at the end of the line we have to know 00:46:48
at the end of the line we have to know that's there and every so often that has 00:46:48
that's there and every so often that has 00:46:51
that's there and every so often that has to happen because if there isn't the 00:46:51
to happen because if there isn't the 00:46:55
to happen because if there isn't the experience that we go through called the 00:46:55
experience that we go through called the 00:46:57
experience that we go through called the Screaming Mimi's at the end of the line 00:46:57
Screaming Mimi's at the end of the line 00:46:59
Screaming Mimi's at the end of the line where everything has gone wrong like 00:46:59
where everything has gone wrong like 00:47:03
where everything has gone wrong like just before he died the British novelist 00:47:03
just before he died the British novelist 00:47:05
just before he died the British novelist Arnold Bennett said I feel somehow that 00:47:05
Arnold Bennett said I feel somehow that 00:47:08
Arnold Bennett said I feel somehow that everything's absolutely wrong you know 00:47:08
everything's absolutely wrong you know 00:47:14
everything's absolutely wrong you know so the the the possibility even the the 00:47:14
so the the the possibility even the the 00:47:18
so the the the possibility even the the imagination that there could be such an 00:47:18
imagination that there could be such an 00:47:20
imagination that there could be such an experience in the back of our heads is 00:47:20
experience in the back of our heads is 00:47:22
experience in the back of our heads is the background which gives intensity to 00:47:22
the background which gives intensity to 00:47:26
the background which gives intensity to the sense that we call feeling good 00:47:26
the sense that we call feeling good 00:47:29
the sense that we call feeling good feeling that it's it's all right it's 00:47:29
feeling that it's it's all right it's 00:47:33
feeling that it's it's all right it's all right 00:47:33
so if you understand that you see that 00:47:36
so if you understand that you see that 00:47:43
so if you understand that you see that really and truly you're always in the 00:47:43
really and truly you're always in the 00:47:45
really and truly you're always in the same place just as every creature thinks 00:47:45
same place just as every creature thinks 00:47:49
same place just as every creature thinks it's a human being and it's just every 00:47:49
it's a human being and it's just every 00:47:53
it's a human being and it's just every being turns out to be a reproduction by 00:47:53
being turns out to be a reproduction by 00:47:56
being turns out to be a reproduction by some interesting technology whether it's 00:47:56
some interesting technology whether it's 00:47:59
some interesting technology whether it's electronic or biological makes very 00:47:59
electronic or biological makes very 00:48:00
electronic or biological makes very little difference and just as it may be 00:48:00
little difference and just as it may be 00:48:05
little difference and just as it may be I don't know planets are stars ways of 00:48:05
I don't know planets are stars ways of 00:48:09
I don't know planets are stars ways of becoming other stars and so on and so on 00:48:09
becoming other stars and so on and so on 00:48:11
becoming other stars and so on and so on and so on but the moral is you're always 00:48:11
and so on but the moral is you're always 00:48:14
and so on but the moral is you're always in the same place and what is that place 00:48:14
you can ask yourself very very I won't 00:48:25
you can ask yourself very very I won't 00:48:28
you can ask yourself very very I won't say seriously because this isn't really 00:48:28
say seriously because this isn't really 00:48:30
say seriously because this isn't really serious it's sincere 00:48:30
serious it's sincere 00:48:32
serious it's sincere ask yourself very sincerely if that is 00:48:32
ask yourself very sincerely if that is 00:48:36
ask yourself very sincerely if that is so if in other words the place in which 00:48:36
so if in other words the place in which 00:48:41
so if in other words the place in which you are now is the place where 00:48:41
you are now is the place where 00:48:43
you are now is the place where everything and everybody else really is 00:48:43
everything and everybody else really is 00:48:45
everything and everybody else really is only there's an arrangement to pretend 00:48:45
only there's an arrangement to pretend 00:48:47
only there's an arrangement to pretend that you ought to be somewhere else so 00:48:48
that you ought to be somewhere else so 00:48:54
that you ought to be somewhere else so the place where you are is the place 00:48:54
the place where you are is the place 00:48:56
the place where you are is the place where you're always pretending you want 00:48:56
where you're always pretending you want 00:48:57
where you're always pretending you want to be somewhere else and this is the 00:48:57
to be somewhere else and this is the 00:49:01
to be somewhere else and this is the nature of life this is the pulse I ought 00:49:01
nature of life this is the pulse I ought 00:49:04
nature of life this is the pulse I ought to be somewhere else so it's a kind of a 00:49:04
to be somewhere else so it's a kind of a 00:49:07
to be somewhere else so it's a kind of a listen like that see when if you 00:49:07
listen like that see when if you 00:49:11
listen like that see when if you discover that that's the trick that 00:49:11
discover that that's the trick that 00:49:12
discover that that's the trick that you're playing on yourself you become 00:49:12
you're playing on yourself you become 00:49:20
you're playing on yourself you become serene and you don't entirely give up 00:49:20
serene and you don't entirely give up 00:49:29
serene and you don't entirely give up the game because that you've seen 00:49:29
the game because that you've seen 00:49:30
the game because that you've seen through it but you say hmm it really 00:49:30
through it but you say hmm it really 00:49:34
through it but you say hmm it really might be fun to go on playing 00:49:34