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I have often puzzled and puzzled about 00:00:00

I have often puzzled and puzzled about 00:00:13

I have often puzzled and puzzled about what it must be like to go to sleep and 00:00:13

what it must be like to go to sleep and 00:00:17

what it must be like to go to sleep and never wake up to be simply not there 00:00:17

never wake up to be simply not there 00:00:24

never wake up to be simply not there forever and ever after all one has some 00:00:24

forever and ever after all one has some 00:00:30

forever and ever after all one has some intimation of this by the interval that 00:00:30

intimation of this by the interval that 00:00:33

intimation of this by the interval that separates going to sleep from waking 00:00:33

separates going to sleep from waking 00:00:36

separates going to sleep from waking when we don't have any dreams but go to 00:00:36

when we don't have any dreams but go to 00:00:39

when we don't have any dreams but go to sleep and then suddenly we're there 00:00:39

sleep and then suddenly we're there 00:00:43

sleep and then suddenly we're there again and in the interim there was 00:00:43

again and in the interim there was 00:00:45

again and in the interim there was nothing and if there was never any end 00:00:45

nothing and if there was never any end 00:00:51

nothing and if there was never any end to that interval if the waking up didn't 00:00:51

to that interval if the waking up didn't 00:00:54

to that interval if the waking up didn't happen that's such a curious thought and 00:00:54

happen that's such a curious thought and 00:01:01

happen that's such a curious thought and yet you know I believe that there 00:01:01

yet you know I believe that there 00:01:03

yet you know I believe that there although that's rather gloomy kind of 00:01:03

although that's rather gloomy kind of 00:01:06

although that's rather gloomy kind of consideration I found that's one of the 00:01:06

consideration I found that's one of the 00:01:09

consideration I found that's one of the most creative thoughts I ever thought in 00:01:09

most creative thoughts I ever thought in 00:01:11

most creative thoughts I ever thought in my life and I keep going back to it you 00:01:12

my life and I keep going back to it you 00:01:17

my life and I keep going back to it you know it's in line with a lot of the very 00:01:17

know it's in line with a lot of the very 00:01:20

know it's in line with a lot of the very fundamental questions that children ask 00:01:20

fundamental questions that children ask 00:01:23

fundamental questions that children ask when they say mommy who would I have 00:01:23

when they say mommy who would I have 00:01:27

when they say mommy who would I have been if you had married someone else 00:01:27

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these are the kind of questions that 00:01:32

these are the kind of questions that 00:01:36

these are the kind of questions that make us puzzle profoundly about our 00:01:36

make us puzzle profoundly about our 00:01:39

make us puzzle profoundly about our existence and one of the reasons why I 00:01:39

existence and one of the reasons why I 00:01:42

existence and one of the reasons why I think thinking about not being about 00:01:42

think thinking about not being about 00:01:47

think thinking about not being about total non-existence is so creative is 00:01:47

total non-existence is so creative is 00:01:52

total non-existence is so creative is that in comparison with that thought the 00:01:52

that in comparison with that thought the 00:01:56

that in comparison with that thought the fact that we are seems 00:01:56

fact that we are seems 00:02:00

fact that we are seems kind of queer incredibly odd 00:02:00

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but you know in the western world I 00:02:07

but you know in the western world I 00:02:09

but you know in the western world I suppose we have two dominant ideas about 00:02:09

suppose we have two dominant ideas about 00:02:15

suppose we have two dominant ideas about what happens to us when we die does the 00:02:15

what happens to us when we die does the 00:02:18

what happens to us when we die does the old-fashioned idea that after we die we 00:02:18

old-fashioned idea that after we die we 00:02:22

old-fashioned idea that after we die we go to another world 00:02:22

go to another world 00:02:23

go to another world I say old-fashioned not to say it's 00:02:23

I say old-fashioned not to say it's 00:02:27

I say old-fashioned not to say it's out-of-date we don't know what the 00:02:27

out-of-date we don't know what the 00:02:28

out-of-date we don't know what the answer to this is but that's the 00:02:28

answer to this is but that's the 00:02:32

answer to this is but that's the traditional answer of the Western world 00:02:32

traditional answer of the Western world 00:02:33

traditional answer of the Western world when you die you go to another life 00:02:33

when you die you go to another life 00:02:36

when you die you go to another life maybe heaven maybe purgatory 00:02:36

maybe heaven maybe purgatory 00:02:38

maybe heaven maybe purgatory maybe he'll who knows I think nowadays 00:02:38

maybe he'll who knows I think nowadays 00:02:42

maybe he'll who knows I think nowadays though the more general idea the more 00:02:42

though the more general idea the more 00:02:45

though the more general idea the more plausible idea to many people is that 00:02:45

plausible idea to many people is that 00:02:47

plausible idea to many people is that when we die we just cease to be that's 00:02:47

when we die we just cease to be that's 00:02:51

when we die we just cease to be that's all there is to it but we're inclined I 00:02:51

all there is to it but we're inclined I 00:02:54

all there is to it but we're inclined I think to have in our minds a picture of 00:02:54

think to have in our minds a picture of 00:02:56

think to have in our minds a picture of this which indeed is depressed of being 00:02:56

this which indeed is depressed of being 00:03:00

this which indeed is depressed of being shut up in the dark for always and 00:03:00

shut up in the dark for always and 00:03:02

shut up in the dark for always and always and always to be kind of buried 00:03:02

always and always to be kind of buried 00:03:04

always and always to be kind of buried alive in a blackness where we are blind 00:03:04

alive in a blackness where we are blind 00:03:07

alive in a blackness where we are blind deaf and dumb but somehow still 00:03:07

deaf and dumb but somehow still 00:03:10

deaf and dumb but somehow still conscious but in the Eastern world there 00:03:10

conscious but in the Eastern world there 00:03:16

conscious but in the Eastern world there are different ideas of this 00:03:16

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the major Eastern idea is what is 00:03:21

the major Eastern idea is what is 00:03:24

the major Eastern idea is what is generally known as reincarnation of 00:03:24

generally known as reincarnation of 00:03:29

generally known as reincarnation of going through life after life after life 00:03:29

going through life after life after life 00:03:31

going through life after life after life in an endless series a process that is 00:03:31

in an endless series a process that is 00:03:35

in an endless series a process that is represented in this Japanese print of 00:03:35

represented in this Japanese print of 00:03:38

represented in this Japanese print of the Wheel of Life the Buddhist Wheel of 00:03:38

the Wheel of Life the Buddhist Wheel of 00:03:42

the Wheel of Life the Buddhist Wheel of Life this painting was lent to me by mr. 00:03:42

Life this painting was lent to me by mr. 00:03:47

Life this painting was lent to me by mr. and mrs. imam warith of Berkeley in 00:03:47

and mrs. imam warith of Berkeley in 00:03:50

and mrs. imam warith of Berkeley in California he used to be the priest of 00:03:50

California he used to be the priest of 00:03:52

California he used to be the priest of the Berkeley Buddhist church and it 00:03:52

the Berkeley Buddhist church and it 00:03:56

the Berkeley Buddhist church and it shows the wheel of stages of existence 00:03:56

shows the wheel of stages of existence 00:03:59

shows the wheel of stages of existence through which beings pass clutched by 00:03:59

through which beings pass clutched by 00:04:03

through which beings pass clutched by the great demon of impermanence this is 00:04:03

the great demon of impermanence this is 00:04:07

the great demon of impermanence this is rather an unusual representation of the 00:04:07

rather an unusual representation of the 00:04:09

rather an unusual representation of the Wheel of Life 00:04:09

Wheel of Life 00:04:10

Wheel of Life perhaps some of you have seen these 00:04:10

perhaps some of you have seen these 00:04:12

perhaps some of you have seen these before they usually have six divisions 00:04:12

before they usually have six divisions 00:04:16

before they usually have six divisions in the central part of the wheel here 00:04:16

in the central part of the wheel here 00:04:18

in the central part of the wheel here and this one happens to have five and 00:04:18

and this one happens to have five and 00:04:21

and this one happens to have five and it's the Chinese Japanese version of the 00:04:21

it's the Chinese Japanese version of the 00:04:25

it's the Chinese Japanese version of the Buddhist Wheel of Life whereas I think 00:04:25

Buddhist Wheel of Life whereas I think 00:04:28

Buddhist Wheel of Life whereas I think prints in books I know there was one 00:04:28

prints in books I know there was one 00:04:31

prints in books I know there was one some years ago in Life Magazine usually 00:04:31

some years ago in Life Magazine usually 00:04:33

some years ago in Life Magazine usually show the Tibetan version but what we 00:04:33

show the Tibetan version but what we 00:04:36

show the Tibetan version but what we have here and I think what I'll do is 00:04:36

have here and I think what I'll do is 00:04:39

have here and I think what I'll do is I'll explain to begin with the popular 00:04:39

I'll explain to begin with the popular 00:04:41

I'll explain to begin with the popular interpretation of it and then go on to 00:04:41

interpretation of it and then go on to 00:04:44

interpretation of it and then go on to see what more philosophical Buddhists 00:04:44

see what more philosophical Buddhists 00:04:47

see what more philosophical Buddhists think of it in a deeper way these then 00:04:47

think of it in a deeper way these then 00:04:51

think of it in a deeper way these then are the five or sometimes six realms of 00:04:51

are the five or sometimes six realms of 00:04:53

are the five or sometimes six realms of existence through which as I said beings 00:04:53

existence through which as I said beings 00:04:57

existence through which as I said beings pass through their various lives we 00:04:57

pass through their various lives we 00:05:01

pass through their various lives we could start here for example this is the 00:05:01

could start here for example this is the 00:05:02

could start here for example this is the human world and then next to this is the 00:05:02

human world and then next to this is the 00:05:07

human world and then next to this is the world of the Devas de vie a which we 00:05:07

world of the Devas de vie a which we 00:05:11

world of the Devas de vie a which we would translate into English as angel 00:05:11

would translate into English as angel 00:05:13

would translate into English as angel then this is the world of the animals 00:05:13

then this is the world of the animals 00:05:17

then this is the world of the animals this is the world that is sometimes 00:05:17

this is the world that is sometimes 00:05:19

this is the world that is sometimes called the hell's only that's not quite 00:05:19

called the hell's only that's not quite 00:05:21

called the hell's only that's not quite a correct term for it it should be 00:05:21

a correct term for it it should be 00:05:23

a correct term for it it should be called the world of the Purgatory's 00:05:23

called the world of the Purgatory's 00:05:25

called the world of the Purgatory's because in this scheme of the universe 00:05:25

because in this scheme of the universe 00:05:28

because in this scheme of the universe there is no everlasting state there is 00:05:28

there is no everlasting state there is 00:05:31

there is no everlasting state there is no everlasting heaven and there is no 00:05:31

no everlasting heaven and there is no 00:05:33

no everlasting heaven and there is no everlasting hell 00:05:33

everlasting hell 00:05:34

everlasting hell the demon of impermanence clutches the 00:05:34

the demon of impermanence clutches the 00:05:36

the demon of impermanence clutches the whole thing and they all terminate next 00:05:36

whole thing and they all terminate next 00:05:41

whole thing and they all terminate next to the hell's there is the realm of what 00:05:41

to the hell's there is the realm of what 00:05:43

to the hell's there is the realm of what are called Preta z-- p ret a they are 00:05:43

are called Preta z-- p ret a they are 00:05:47

are called Preta z-- p ret a they are frustrated spirits sometimes shown with 00:05:47

frustrated spirits sometimes shown with 00:05:50

frustrated spirits sometimes shown with very large stomachs and very tiny mouths 00:05:50

very large stomachs and very tiny mouths 00:05:53

very large stomachs and very tiny mouths enormous appetite but very small means 00:05:53

enormous appetite but very small means 00:05:57

enormous appetite but very small means of satisfying and the idea is you see 00:05:57

of satisfying and the idea is you see 00:06:01

of satisfying and the idea is you see that in the course of his development 00:06:01

that in the course of his development 00:06:06

that in the course of his development the individual goes through life after 00:06:06

the individual goes through life after 00:06:11

the individual goes through life after life if he does well he ascends towards 00:06:11

life if he does well he ascends towards 00:06:13

life if he does well he ascends towards the heavens if he does ill he descends 00:06:13

the heavens if he does ill he descends 00:06:17

the heavens if he does ill he descends to the hells or he may fall from the 00:06:17

to the hells or he may fall from the 00:06:21

to the hells or he may fall from the human state to the animal state or fall 00:06:21

human state to the animal state or fall 00:06:24

human state to the animal state or fall from the human state to the state of the 00:06:24

from the human state to the state of the 00:06:26

from the human state to the state of the ghosts but the point that has to be 00:06:26

ghosts but the point that has to be 00:06:33

ghosts but the point that has to be remembered in the Buddhist idea of 00:06:33

remembered in the Buddhist idea of 00:06:37

remembered in the Buddhist idea of transmigration or reincarnation is that 00:06:37

transmigration or reincarnation is that 00:06:41

transmigration or reincarnation is that you can never stop anywhere you may 00:06:41

you can never stop anywhere you may 00:06:45

you can never stop anywhere you may ascend to heaven but what goes up must 00:06:45

ascend to heaven but what goes up must 00:06:47

ascend to heaven but what goes up must eventually come down you may descend to 00:06:47

eventually come down you may descend to 00:06:49

eventually come down you may descend to hell but what goes down must eventually 00:06:49

hell but what goes down must eventually 00:06:52

hell but what goes down must eventually come up and so one goes on and on moving 00:06:52

come up and so one goes on and on moving 00:06:57

come up and so one goes on and on moving through these various worlds until in 00:06:57

through these various worlds until in 00:06:59

through these various worlds until in Buddhist ideas you become sufficiently 00:06:59

Buddhist ideas you become sufficiently 00:07:03

Buddhist ideas you become sufficiently awakened to become a Buddha one who is 00:07:03

awakened to become a Buddha one who is 00:07:07

awakened to become a Buddha one who is released from the wheel and who does not 00:07:07

released from the wheel and who does not 00:07:11

released from the wheel and who does not fall anymore into the sequence of 00:07:11

fall anymore into the sequence of 00:07:13

fall anymore into the sequence of rebirths that enters the eternal state 00:07:13

rebirths that enters the eternal state 00:07:16

rebirths that enters the eternal state of Nirvana now if you will look closer 00:07:16

of Nirvana now if you will look closer 00:07:20

of Nirvana now if you will look closer again you will see that there are a 00:07:20

again you will see that there are a 00:07:21

again you will see that there are a number of figures round the outside of 00:07:21

number of figures round the outside of 00:07:24

number of figures round the outside of the wheel and these represent what is 00:07:24

the wheel and these represent what is 00:07:27

the wheel and these represent what is called the twelve fold chain of 00:07:27

called the twelve fold chain of 00:07:31

called the twelve fold chain of dependent origination that is to say 00:07:31

dependent origination that is to say 00:07:35

dependent origination that is to say they are a series of Link's which form 00:07:35

they are a series of Link's which form 00:07:41

they are a series of Link's which form what might be called the sequence of 00:07:41

what might be called the sequence of 00:07:43

what might be called the sequence of life they are as it were a schematic 00:07:43

life they are as it were a schematic 00:07:46

life they are as it were a schematic diagram of the force of 00:07:46

diagram of the force of 00:07:48

diagram of the force of process that keeps this wheel rotating 00:07:48

process that keeps this wheel rotating 00:07:50

process that keeps this wheel rotating and the chain starts with a demon down 00:07:50

and the chain starts with a demon down 00:07:57

and the chain starts with a demon down at the bottom here who represents 00:07:57

at the bottom here who represents 00:07:59

at the bottom here who represents ignorance or perhaps unconsciousness the 00:07:59

ignorance or perhaps unconsciousness the 00:08:03

ignorance or perhaps unconsciousness the state of not-knowing then next in order 00:08:03

state of not-knowing then next in order 00:08:06

state of not-knowing then next in order you will see a potter's wheel and this 00:08:06

you will see a potter's wheel and this 00:08:09

you will see a potter's wheel and this represents potentialities of life next 00:08:09

represents potentialities of life next 00:08:14

represents potentialities of life next comes a monkey who represents 00:08:14

comes a monkey who represents 00:08:17

comes a monkey who represents consciousness a man in a boat for some 00:08:17

consciousness a man in a boat for some 00:08:23

consciousness a man in a boat for some reason this represents the combination 00:08:23

reason this represents the combination 00:08:26

reason this represents the combination of name and form words bringing out 00:08:26

of name and form words bringing out 00:08:31

of name and form words bringing out shapes words identifying shapes and 00:08:31

shapes words identifying shapes and 00:08:34

shapes words identifying shapes and things in the world 00:08:34

things in the world 00:08:36

things in the world here comes sense consciousness the five 00:08:36

here comes sense consciousness the five 00:08:39

here comes sense consciousness the five senses a man's body with the senses 00:08:39

senses a man's body with the senses 00:08:41

senses a man's body with the senses exposed and here comes contact a pair of 00:08:41

exposed and here comes contact a pair of 00:08:47

exposed and here comes contact a pair of lovers after this there comes perception 00:08:47

lovers after this there comes perception 00:08:51

lovers after this there comes perception I am not quite sure what the symbol in 00:08:51

I am not quite sure what the symbol in 00:08:55

I am not quite sure what the symbol in this wheel is it seems to show a man 00:08:55

this wheel is it seems to show a man 00:08:58

this wheel is it seems to show a man with a sword behind a screen and two 00:08:58

with a sword behind a screen and two 00:08:59

with a sword behind a screen and two women playing in front of the screen the 00:08:59

women playing in front of the screen the 00:09:02

women playing in front of the screen the usual symbol you find here for 00:09:02

usual symbol you find here for 00:09:04

usual symbol you find here for perception is a man with an arrow in his 00:09:04

perception is a man with an arrow in his 00:09:08

perception is a man with an arrow in his eye 00:09:08

eye 00:09:09

eye showing the pain involved in the 00:09:09

showing the pain involved in the 00:09:12

showing the pain involved in the perception of the world the next in the 00:09:12

perception of the world the next in the 00:09:14

perception of the world the next in the link is desire it shows a woman with 00:09:14

link is desire it shows a woman with 00:09:19

link is desire it shows a woman with twins the next one here is called 00:09:19

twins the next one here is called 00:09:25

twins the next one here is called grasping and that shows a man with a 00:09:25

grasping and that shows a man with a 00:09:28

grasping and that shows a man with a basket into which he is trying to get 00:09:28

basket into which he is trying to get 00:09:30

basket into which he is trying to get the fruits of life and then as we come 00:09:30

the fruits of life and then as we come 00:09:33

the fruits of life and then as we come over round the wheel we get a figure 00:09:33

over round the wheel we get a figure 00:09:37

over round the wheel we get a figure which means growth I think this is one 00:09:37

which means growth I think this is one 00:09:41

which means growth I think this is one of the gods of prosperity but it means 00:09:41

of the gods of prosperity but it means 00:09:44

of the gods of prosperity but it means growth the fullness of life here is 00:09:44

growth the fullness of life here is 00:09:47

growth the fullness of life here is birth a woman in partition here is old 00:09:47

birth a woman in partition here is old 00:09:51

birth a woman in partition here is old age and then although the final stage of 00:09:51

age and then although the final stage of 00:09:56

age and then although the final stage of the links of dependent origination as 00:09:56

the links of dependent origination as 00:09:59

the links of dependent origination as they are 00:09:59

they are 00:10:00

they are really drawn shows this one as the last 00:10:00

really drawn shows this one as the last 00:10:02

really drawn shows this one as the last and calls it old age and death in this 00:10:02

and calls it old age and death in this 00:10:06

and calls it old age and death in this particular wheel they've been spread out 00:10:06

particular wheel they've been spread out 00:10:07

particular wheel they've been spread out so that you get old age grief now excuse 00:10:07

so that you get old age grief now excuse 00:10:14

so that you get old age grief now excuse me this is sickness old age sickness 00:10:14

me this is sickness old age sickness 00:10:17

me this is sickness old age sickness death grief compassion suffering and 00:10:17

death grief compassion suffering and 00:10:25

death grief compassion suffering and again back into ignorance 00:10:25

again back into ignorance 00:10:27

again back into ignorance here's another figure of ignorance the 00:10:27

here's another figure of ignorance the 00:10:29

here's another figure of ignorance the camel being led by a blind man now what 00:10:29

camel being led by a blind man now what 00:10:34

camel being led by a blind man now what I want you to notice particularly about 00:10:34

I want you to notice particularly about 00:10:36

I want you to notice particularly about this is that the chain represents what 00:10:36

this is that the chain represents what 00:10:43

this is that the chain represents what is called in Sanskrit the process of 00:10:43

is called in Sanskrit the process of 00:10:47

is called in Sanskrit the process of karma I'm going to write that word 00:10:47

karma I'm going to write that word 00:10:49

karma I'm going to write that word because it's very fundamental to an 00:10:49

because it's very fundamental to an 00:10:52

because it's very fundamental to an understanding of this whole problem 00:10:52

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karma 00:10:56

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is sometimes understood and maybe your 00:11:04

is sometimes understood and maybe your 00:11:06

is sometimes understood and maybe your ordinary dictionaries give it to you as 00:11:06

ordinary dictionaries give it to you as 00:11:08

ordinary dictionaries give it to you as the law of cause and effect but actually 00:11:08

the law of cause and effect but actually 00:11:11

the law of cause and effect but actually it comes from the root three which in 00:11:11

it comes from the root three which in 00:11:20

it comes from the root three which in Sanskrit means to act or to do and the 00:11:20

Sanskrit means to act or to do and the 00:11:27

Sanskrit means to act or to do and the basic idea of karma is that it is action 00:11:27

basic idea of karma is that it is action 00:11:31

basic idea of karma is that it is action which always involves the necessity for 00:11:31

which always involves the necessity for 00:11:34

which always involves the necessity for other action as the Buddha once 00:11:34

other action as the Buddha once 00:11:38

other action as the Buddha once expressed it this arises that becomes 00:11:38

expressed it this arises that becomes 00:11:42

expressed it this arises that becomes now this isn't quite the same thing as 00:11:42

now this isn't quite the same thing as 00:11:44

now this isn't quite the same thing as cause and effect it is rather the idea 00:11:44

cause and effect it is rather the idea 00:11:47

cause and effect it is rather the idea of linkage for example when I pick up 00:11:47

of linkage for example when I pick up 00:11:51

of linkage for example when I pick up this brush I lift it by one end and the 00:11:51

this brush I lift it by one end and the 00:11:57

this brush I lift it by one end and the other end comes up now we could say this 00:11:57

other end comes up now we could say this 00:12:01

other end comes up now we could say this is cause and effect well though this 00:12:01

is cause and effect well though this 00:12:03

is cause and effect well though this would be a rather cumbersome way of 00:12:03

would be a rather cumbersome way of 00:12:04

would be a rather cumbersome way of thinking about it I could say for 00:12:04

thinking about it I could say for 00:12:06

thinking about it I could say for example that the coming up of the brush 00:12:06

example that the coming up of the brush 00:12:08

example that the coming up of the brush at this end is the effect of the cause 00:12:08

at this end is the effect of the cause 00:12:11

at this end is the effect of the cause my lifting it at this end but we don't 00:12:11

my lifting it at this end but we don't 00:12:15

my lifting it at this end but we don't ordinarily think so complicatedly about 00:12:15

ordinarily think so complicatedly about 00:12:17

ordinarily think so complicatedly about it we think in a simpler fashion namely 00:12:17

it we think in a simpler fashion namely 00:12:19

it we think in a simpler fashion namely that to pick up this end is also to lift 00:12:19

that to pick up this end is also to lift 00:12:23

that to pick up this end is also to lift up that end because it's all one so in 00:12:23

up that end because it's all one so in 00:12:27

up that end because it's all one so in the same way Buddhists and Hindus who 00:12:27

the same way Buddhists and Hindus who 00:12:32

the same way Buddhists and Hindus who follow the idea of karma believe that 00:12:32

follow the idea of karma believe that 00:12:37

follow the idea of karma believe that life and death involve each other in the 00:12:37

life and death involve each other in the 00:12:43

life and death involve each other in the same way that the two ends of the brush 00:12:43

same way that the two ends of the brush 00:12:46

same way that the two ends of the brush lifting up one involves lifting up the 00:12:46

lifting up one involves lifting up the 00:12:48

lifting up one involves lifting up the other so in this way living involves 00:12:48

other so in this way living involves 00:12:51

other so in this way living involves dying we wouldn't say that the cause of 00:12:51

dying we wouldn't say that the cause of 00:12:54

dying we wouldn't say that the cause of death is birth but birth and death go 00:12:54

death is birth but birth and death go 00:12:57

death is birth but birth and death go together and they are inseparable and so 00:12:57

together and they are inseparable and so 00:13:00

together and they are inseparable and so if we will look again for a moment at 00:13:00

if we will look again for a moment at 00:13:02

if we will look again for a moment at the wheel we can see that there are 00:13:02

the wheel we can see that there are 00:13:05

the wheel we can see that there are these important phases of it all 00:13:05

these important phases of it all 00:13:09

these important phases of it all together here it ends with the sequence 00:13:09

together here it ends with the sequence 00:13:12

together here it ends with the sequence of pictures representing death and 00:13:12

of pictures representing death and 00:13:15

of pictures representing death and suffering and its attendant greed 00:13:15

suffering and its attendant greed 00:13:17

suffering and its attendant greed ending in the blind man leading the 00:13:17

ending in the blind man leading the 00:13:20

ending in the blind man leading the camel and the demon which together 00:13:20

camel and the demon which together 00:13:24

camel and the demon which together represent ignorance or unconsciousness 00:13:24

represent ignorance or unconsciousness 00:13:27

represent ignorance or unconsciousness but once again here we have the 00:13:27

but once again here we have the 00:13:30

but once again here we have the potentiality of life and then the monkey 00:13:30

potentiality of life and then the monkey 00:13:35

potentiality of life and then the monkey representing consciousness all these 00:13:35

representing consciousness all these 00:13:37

representing consciousness all these things are looked upon as linked and 00:13:37

things are looked upon as linked and 00:13:41

things are looked upon as linked and therefore inseparable and thus you see 00:13:41

therefore inseparable and thus you see 00:13:47

therefore inseparable and thus you see we don't look upon ignorance as the 00:13:47

we don't look upon ignorance as the 00:13:50

we don't look upon ignorance as the first step or the first link in the 00:13:50

first step or the first link in the 00:13:53

first step or the first link in the chain from a chronological point of view 00:13:53

chain from a chronological point of view 00:13:55

chain from a chronological point of view we only start numbering this the chain 00:13:55

we only start numbering this the chain 00:13:58

we only start numbering this the chain the steps of the chain here because one 00:13:58

the steps of the chain here because one 00:14:01

the steps of the chain here because one has to begin somewhere when one's 00:14:01

has to begin somewhere when one's 00:14:02

has to begin somewhere when one's talking and so the basic idea of this 00:14:02

talking and so the basic idea of this 00:14:10

talking and so the basic idea of this link is interrelatedness interlocked so 00:14:10

link is interrelatedness interlocked so 00:14:16

link is interrelatedness interlocked so that death and life as i said imply each 00:14:16

that death and life as i said imply each 00:14:21

that death and life as i said imply each other so that you might speaking from 00:14:21

other so that you might speaking from 00:14:24

other so that you might speaking from the standpoint of indian philosophy of 00:14:24

the standpoint of indian philosophy of 00:14:27

the standpoint of indian philosophy of hinduism or buddhism you might pick an 00:14:27

hinduism or buddhism you might pick an 00:14:29

hinduism or buddhism you might pick an argument with hamlet and say to be or 00:14:29

argument with hamlet and say to be or 00:14:32

argument with hamlet and say to be or not to be is not the question these are 00:14:33

not to be is not the question these are 00:14:35

not to be is not the question these are not alternatives they are things that go 00:14:35

not alternatives they are things that go 00:14:38

not alternatives they are things that go together just like up and down back in 00:14:38

together just like up and down back in 00:14:41

together just like up and down back in front solid and space now there's 00:14:41

front solid and space now there's 00:14:45

front solid and space now there's another aspect to karma which needs to 00:14:45

another aspect to karma which needs to 00:14:49

another aspect to karma which needs to be considered here and that is that 00:14:49

be considered here and that is that 00:14:52

be considered here and that is that karma also involves the idea of the 00:14:52

karma also involves the idea of the 00:14:57

karma also involves the idea of the continuity of pattern you know strictly 00:14:57

continuity of pattern you know strictly 00:15:02

continuity of pattern you know strictly speaking Buddhists don't believe that 00:15:02

speaking Buddhists don't believe that 00:15:06

speaking Buddhists don't believe that there is any soul entity which passes 00:15:06

there is any soul entity which passes 00:15:09

there is any soul entity which passes from one life to another there is no 00:15:09

from one life to another there is no 00:15:12

from one life to another there is no sort of fixed I or fixed ego which once 00:15:12

sort of fixed I or fixed ego which once 00:15:18

sort of fixed I or fixed ego which once was an animal and then became a man and 00:15:18

was an animal and then became a man and 00:15:20

was an animal and then became a man and then became an angel and then eventually 00:15:20

then became an angel and then eventually 00:15:21

then became an angel and then eventually became a Buddha or something like that 00:15:21

became a Buddha or something like that 00:15:24

became a Buddha or something like that the idea of karma as the linking fact 00:15:24

the idea of karma as the linking fact 00:15:28

the idea of karma as the linking fact between the various lives is what we 00:15:28

between the various lives is what we 00:15:31

between the various lives is what we might call continuity of pattern for 00:15:31

might call continuity of pattern for 00:15:35

might call continuity of pattern for example consider an army regiment a 00:15:35

example consider an army regiment a 00:15:40

example consider an army regiment a certain regiment goes on year after year 00:15:40

certain regiment goes on year after year 00:15:44

certain regiment goes on year after year after year old European regiments for 00:15:44

after year old European regiments for 00:15:47

after year old European regiments for example have existed for hundreds of 00:15:47

example have existed for hundreds of 00:15:49

example have existed for hundreds of years and yet the personnel of those 00:15:49

years and yet the personnel of those 00:15:52

years and yet the personnel of those regiments and even the barracks in which 00:15:52

regiments and even the barracks in which 00:15:53

regiments and even the barracks in which they're stationed are entirely changed 00:15:53

they're stationed are entirely changed 00:15:56

they're stationed are entirely changed in the same way a University Harvard 00:15:56

in the same way a University Harvard 00:16:00

in the same way a University Harvard University is existed for a long time 00:16:00

University is existed for a long time 00:16:03

University is existed for a long time Oxford for a lot longer and yet there is 00:16:03

Oxford for a lot longer and yet there is 00:16:07

Oxford for a lot longer and yet there is not a single member of the faculty not a 00:16:07

not a single member of the faculty not a 00:16:09

not a single member of the faculty not a single student who was there when it 00:16:09

single student who was there when it 00:16:11

single student who was there when it first began and yet you see the 00:16:11

first began and yet you see the 00:16:13

first began and yet you see the university goes off because what goes on 00:16:13

university goes off because what goes on 00:16:17

university goes off because what goes on is a pattern a form of life in the same 00:16:17

is a pattern a form of life in the same 00:16:23

is a pattern a form of life in the same way the individual body of man every 7 00:16:23

way the individual body of man every 7 00:16:26

way the individual body of man every 7 years I think all the molecules 00:16:26

years I think all the molecules 00:16:29

years I think all the molecules composing our physical structure are 00:16:29

composing our physical structure are 00:16:31

composing our physical structure are entirely changed and yet something 00:16:31

entirely changed and yet something 00:16:34

entirely changed and yet something identifiable as the pattern which we 00:16:34

identifiable as the pattern which we 00:16:36

identifiable as the pattern which we associate with mr. or mrs. so-and-so is 00:16:36

associate with mr. or mrs. so-and-so is 00:16:39

associate with mr. or mrs. so-and-so is still there another fascinating 00:16:39

still there another fascinating 00:16:42

still there another fascinating illustration of continuity of pattern in 00:16:42

illustration of continuity of pattern in 00:16:45

illustration of continuity of pattern in the sense is wave motion is perhaps 00:16:45

the sense is wave motion is perhaps 00:16:48

the sense is wave motion is perhaps easiest to illustrate with something 00:16:48

easiest to illustrate with something 00:16:50

easiest to illustrate with something like a barber's pole when numb you twirl 00:16:50

like a barber's pole when numb you twirl 00:16:55

like a barber's pole when numb you twirl it now as you twirl it there's an 00:16:55

it now as you twirl it there's an 00:16:58

it now as you twirl it there's an illusion of something moving upwards 00:16:58

illusion of something moving upwards 00:17:00

illusion of something moving upwards from the bottom to the top of the pole 00:17:00

from the bottom to the top of the pole 00:17:02

from the bottom to the top of the pole it seems that the strips go along now 00:17:02

it seems that the strips go along now 00:17:05

it seems that the strips go along now actually they don't go along they just 00:17:05

actually they don't go along they just 00:17:07

actually they don't go along they just go round and in the same way also when 00:17:07

go round and in the same way also when 00:17:11

go round and in the same way also when waves move across water there's no water 00:17:11

waves move across water there's no water 00:17:15

waves move across water there's no water moving across there is the wave pattern 00:17:15

moving across there is the wave pattern 00:17:18

moving across there is the wave pattern moving across the water is just going up 00:17:18

moving across the water is just going up 00:17:20

moving across the water is just going up and down as you can tell when you see 00:17:20

and down as you can tell when you see 00:17:22

and down as you can tell when you see say a dead leaf floating on the water's 00:17:22

say a dead leaf floating on the water's 00:17:24

say a dead leaf floating on the water's surface and it isn't moved along by the 00:17:24

surface and it isn't moved along by the 00:17:27

surface and it isn't moved along by the waves so this idea of continuity of 00:17:27

waves so this idea of continuity of 00:17:31

waves so this idea of continuity of pattern is the 00:17:31

pattern is the 00:17:35

pattern is the solution which indian philosophy offers 00:17:35

solution which indian philosophy offers 00:17:39

solution which indian philosophy offers on the matter of the problem of death 00:17:39

on the matter of the problem of death 00:17:41

on the matter of the problem of death the individual as it were entity is 00:17:41

the individual as it were entity is 00:17:45

the individual as it were entity is constantly changing he does not go on 00:17:45

constantly changing he does not go on 00:17:49

constantly changing he does not go on but the pattern or the karma the pattern 00:17:49

but the pattern or the karma the pattern 00:17:53

but the pattern or the karma the pattern of action goes on and it's all embraced 00:17:53

of action goes on and it's all embraced 00:17:56

of action goes on and it's all embraced by that figure you saw of the great 00:17:56

by that figure you saw of the great 00:18:01

by that figure you saw of the great demon of impermanence could we look at 00:18:01

demon of impermanence could we look at 00:18:04

demon of impermanence could we look at that demon once again I want to say 00:18:04

that demon once again I want to say 00:18:05

that demon once again I want to say something more about him from our 00:18:05

something more about him from our 00:18:11

something more about him from our Western ideas this fellow looks pretty 00:18:11

Western ideas this fellow looks pretty 00:18:12

Western ideas this fellow looks pretty evil and we might associate him with a 00:18:13

evil and we might associate him with a 00:18:16

evil and we might associate him with a devil in the Hebrew or Christian sense 00:18:16

devil in the Hebrew or Christian sense 00:18:19

devil in the Hebrew or Christian sense of a principle of evil in Buddhism 00:18:19

of a principle of evil in Buddhism 00:18:22

of a principle of evil in Buddhism demons are not evil they are really 00:18:22

demons are not evil they are really 00:18:26

demons are not evil they are really beneficent they have a frightening 00:18:26

beneficent they have a frightening 00:18:29

beneficent they have a frightening aspect but underneath this there is a 00:18:29

aspect but underneath this there is a 00:18:32

aspect but underneath this there is a deeper meaning this demon represents 00:18:32

deeper meaning this demon represents 00:18:34

deeper meaning this demon represents change or impermanence but the deep 00:18:34

change or impermanence but the deep 00:18:39

change or impermanence but the deep insight underlying this is that change 00:18:39

insight underlying this is that change 00:18:43

insight underlying this is that change is a liberating factor death is a 00:18:43

is a liberating factor death is a 00:18:48

is a liberating factor death is a liberating fact did it not exist life 00:18:48

liberating fact did it not exist life 00:18:52

liberating fact did it not exist life would not exist either and therefore the 00:18:52

would not exist either and therefore the 00:18:56

would not exist either and therefore the wise man is not afraid of the demon he 00:18:56

wise man is not afraid of the demon he 00:18:59

wise man is not afraid of the demon he goes as it was straightforward to him to 00:18:59

goes as it was straightforward to him to 00:19:01

goes as it was straightforward to him to embrace him and at that moment the demon 00:19:01

embrace him and at that moment the demon 00:19:03

embrace him and at that moment the demon is transformed and so in the same way in 00:19:03

is transformed and so in the same way in 00:19:06

is transformed and so in the same way in a deeper sense Buddhists do not think of 00:19:06

a deeper sense Buddhists do not think of 00:19:09

a deeper sense Buddhists do not think of these various realms of the wheel as 00:19:09

these various realms of the wheel as 00:19:11

these various realms of the wheel as literal worlds where there are angels 00:19:11

literal worlds where there are angels 00:19:14

literal worlds where there are angels and demons and starved ghosts but they 00:19:14

and demons and starved ghosts but they 00:19:17

and demons and starved ghosts but they represent the various phases of 00:19:17

represent the various phases of 00:19:19

represent the various phases of consciousness equanimity general kind of 00:19:19

consciousness equanimity general kind of 00:19:24

consciousness equanimity general kind of medium consciousness quiet consciousness 00:19:24

medium consciousness quiet consciousness 00:19:27

medium consciousness quiet consciousness is the human state the angel state is 00:19:27

is the human state the angel state is 00:19:29

is the human state the angel state is supreme happiness the animal state is 00:19:29

supreme happiness the animal state is 00:19:32

supreme happiness the animal state is animality here is misery in its extreme 00:19:32

animality here is misery in its extreme 00:19:36

animality here is misery in its extreme and here is frustration and it 00:19:36

and here is frustration and it 00:19:39

and here is frustration and it but the fundamental idea of the whole 00:19:39

but the fundamental idea of the whole 00:19:42

but the fundamental idea of the whole wheel that we have to remember the idea 00:19:42

wheel that we have to remember the idea 00:19:44

wheel that we have to remember the idea of karma is the interlocking the 00:19:44

of karma is the interlocking the 00:19:48

of karma is the interlocking the interdependence of being and not-being 00:19:48

interdependence of being and not-being 00:19:51

interdependence of being and not-being of death and life and the fact that the 00:19:51

of death and life and the fact that the 00:19:54

of death and life and the fact that the demon of change is really a disguise of 00:19:54

demon of change is really a disguise of 00:20:01

demon of change is really a disguise of the very source of life the death 00:20:01

the very source of life the death 00:20:05

the very source of life the death without which life is impossible the 00:20:05

without which life is impossible the 00:20:08

without which life is impossible the change without which life is totally 00:20:08

change without which life is totally 00:20:11

change without which life is totally boring now of course when any idea like 00:20:11

boring now of course when any idea like 00:20:18

boring now of course when any idea like that is explained the first thing that 00:20:18

that is explained the first thing that 00:20:21

that is explained the first thing that we ask is is it true is there a process 00:20:21

we ask is is it true is there a process 00:20:27

we ask is is it true is there a process of rebirth do our patterns go on and on 00:20:27

of rebirth do our patterns go on and on 00:20:34

of rebirth do our patterns go on and on and have influence to an illimitable 00:20:34

and have influence to an illimitable 00:20:39

and have influence to an illimitable future but you know as this idea is held 00:20:39

future but you know as this idea is held 00:20:45

future but you know as this idea is held by deeply thoughtful Hindus and 00:20:45

by deeply thoughtful Hindus and 00:20:48

by deeply thoughtful Hindus and Buddhists it isn't a belief in something 00:20:48

Buddhists it isn't a belief in something 00:20:51

Buddhists it isn't a belief in something which we can't prove it's really quite a 00:20:51

which we can't prove it's really quite a 00:20:54

which we can't prove it's really quite a self-evident notion think of it in this 00:20:54

self-evident notion think of it in this 00:20:57

self-evident notion think of it in this way 00:20:57

way 00:20:58

way supposing I make two statements 00:20:58

supposing I make two statements 00:21:01

supposing I make two statements statement one after I die I shall be 00:21:01

statement one after I die I shall be 00:21:07

statement one after I die I shall be reborn again as a baby but I shall 00:21:07

reborn again as a baby but I shall 00:21:12

reborn again as a baby but I shall forget my former life statement two 00:21:12

forget my former life statement two 00:21:17

forget my former life statement two after I die a baby will be born 00:21:17

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now I believe that those two statements 00:21:23

now I believe that those two statements 00:21:25

now I believe that those two statements are saying exactly the same thing and we 00:21:25

are saying exactly the same thing and we 00:21:29

are saying exactly the same thing and we know that the second one is true babies 00:21:29

know that the second one is true babies 00:21:31

know that the second one is true babies are always being born conscious beings 00:21:31

are always being born conscious beings 00:21:34

are always being born conscious beings of all kinds are constantly coming into 00:21:34

of all kinds are constantly coming into 00:21:36

of all kinds are constantly coming into existence after others die but why would 00:21:36

existence after others die but why would 00:21:41

existence after others die but why would I think that the two statements are 00:21:41

I think that the two statements are 00:21:44

I think that the two statements are really the same state because after all 00:21:44

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if you die and your memory comes to an 00:21:50

if you die and your memory comes to an 00:21:53

if you die and your memory comes to an end and you forget who you were being 00:21:53

end and you forget who you were being 00:21:56

end and you forget who you were being reborn again is exactly the equivalent 00:21:56

reborn again is exactly the equivalent 00:21:58

reborn again is exactly the equivalent of somebody else being born because we 00:21:58

of somebody else being born because we 00:22:01

of somebody else being born because we have no consciousness of our continuity 00:22:01

have no consciousness of our continuity 00:22:04

have no consciousness of our continuity unless we have memory if the memory goes 00:22:04

unless we have memory if the memory goes 00:22:06

unless we have memory if the memory goes then we might just as well be somebody 00:22:06

then we might just as well be somebody 00:22:08

then we might just as well be somebody else but it seems to me that the 00:22:08

else but it seems to me that the 00:22:13

else but it seems to me that the fascinating thing about this is that 00:22:13

fascinating thing about this is that 00:22:16

fascinating thing about this is that although a particular set of memories 00:22:16

although a particular set of memories 00:22:19

although a particular set of memories vanishes death is not the end of 00:22:19

vanishes death is not the end of 00:22:22

vanishes death is not the end of consciousness in other words we are 00:22:22

consciousness in other words we are 00:22:27

consciousness in other words we are deluded by a kind of fantasy if we think 00:22:27

deluded by a kind of fantasy if we think 00:22:30

deluded by a kind of fantasy if we think of death as endless darkness endless 00:22:30

of death as endless darkness endless 00:22:37

of death as endless darkness endless nothingness is not only inconceivable 00:22:37

nothingness is not only inconceivable 00:22:40

nothingness is not only inconceivable but it's logically absolutely 00:22:40

but it's logically absolutely 00:22:43

but it's logically absolutely meaningless because we aren't able to 00:22:43

meaningless because we aren't able to 00:22:45

meaningless because we aren't able to have any idea 00:22:45

have any idea 00:22:47

have any idea much less sensation of nothing unless it 00:22:47

much less sensation of nothing unless it 00:22:49

much less sensation of nothing unless it can be compared with a sensation of 00:22:49

can be compared with a sensation of 00:22:52

can be compared with a sensation of something these two things go together 00:22:52

something these two things go together 00:22:55

something these two things go together and therefore I think what is meant is 00:22:55

and therefore I think what is meant is 00:22:59

and therefore I think what is meant is that the vacuum created by the 00:22:59

that the vacuum created by the 00:23:01

that the vacuum created by the disappearance of a being by the 00:23:01

disappearance of a being by the 00:23:03

disappearance of a being by the disappearance of his memory system is 00:23:03

disappearance of his memory system is 00:23:06

disappearance of his memory system is simply filled by another being who is I 00:23:06

simply filled by another being who is I 00:23:13

simply filled by another being who is I just as you feel your I the funny thing 00:23:13

just as you feel your I the funny thing 00:23:16

just as you feel your I the funny thing about being I about feeling that one is 00:23:16

about being I about feeling that one is 00:23:19

about being I about feeling that one is sort of a center of the universe is that 00:23:19

sort of a center of the universe is that 00:23:22

sort of a center of the universe is that you can only experience this eye 00:23:22

you can only experience this eye 00:23:24

you can only experience this eye sensation in the singular you can't 00:23:24

sensation in the singular you can't 00:23:26

sensation in the singular you can't experience being two or three eyes all 00:23:26

experience being two or three eyes all 00:23:28

experience being two or three eyes all at the same time 00:23:28

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now then it seems to me that this idea 00:23:32

now then it seems to me that this idea 00:23:35

now then it seems to me that this idea has three very important consequences 00:23:35

has three very important consequences 00:23:38

has three very important consequences one is that the disappearance of our 00:23:38

one is that the disappearance of our 00:23:44

one is that the disappearance of our memory in death is not really something 00:23:44

memory in death is not really something 00:23:48

memory in death is not really something to be regretted of course everybody 00:23:48

to be regretted of course everybody 00:23:52

to be regretted of course everybody wishes to hold forever to the memories 00:23:52

wishes to hold forever to the memories 00:23:55

wishes to hold forever to the memories and to the people and the situations 00:23:55

and to the people and the situations 00:23:58

and to the people and the situations that he particularly loves but surely if 00:23:58

that he particularly loves but surely if 00:24:02

that he particularly loves but surely if we think this through is that what we 00:24:02

we think this through is that what we 00:24:05

we think this through is that what we actually want do we really want to have 00:24:05

actually want do we really want to have 00:24:09

actually want do we really want to have those we love 00:24:09

those we love 00:24:10

those we love however greatly we love them for always 00:24:10

however greatly we love them for always 00:24:12

however greatly we love them for always and always and always and always 00:24:12

and always and always and always 00:24:15

and always and always and always isn't it inconceivable that even in a 00:24:15

isn't it inconceivable that even in a 00:24:18

isn't it inconceivable that even in a very distant future we wouldn't get 00:24:18

very distant future we wouldn't get 00:24:21

very distant future we wouldn't get tired of it and this indeed is the 00:24:21

tired of it and this indeed is the 00:24:26

tired of it and this indeed is the secret of the thing this is why the 00:24:26

secret of the thing this is why the 00:24:27

secret of the thing this is why the demon of impermanence is connected 00:24:27

demon of impermanence is connected 00:24:31

demon of impermanence is connected because it is forgetting about things 00:24:31

because it is forgetting about things 00:24:34

because it is forgetting about things that renews their wonder just think when 00:24:34

that renews their wonder just think when 00:24:38

that renews their wonder just think when you open your eyes on the world for the 00:24:38

you open your eyes on the world for the 00:24:40

you open your eyes on the world for the first time as a child our brilliant 00:24:40

first time as a child our brilliant 00:24:44

first time as a child our brilliant colors were what a jewel the son wants 00:24:44

colors were what a jewel the son wants 00:24:48

colors were what a jewel the son wants what Marvel's the Stars how incredibly 00:24:48

what Marvel's the Stars how incredibly 00:24:52

what Marvel's the Stars how incredibly alive the trees were that's all because 00:24:52

alive the trees were that's all because 00:24:55

alive the trees were that's all because they were new to your eyes or in the 00:24:55

they were new to your eyes or in the 00:24:59

they were new to your eyes or in the same way you know how it is you've been 00:24:59

same way you know how it is you've been 00:25:00

same way you know how it is you've been reading a mystery story and you're 00:25:00

reading a mystery story and you're 00:25:03

reading a mystery story and you're looking around the house want something 00:25:03

looking around the house want something 00:25:04

looking around the house want something to read you pick up an old mystery story 00:25:04

to read you pick up an old mystery story 00:25:06

to read you pick up an old mystery story if you read it years and years ago and 00:25:06

if you read it years and years ago and 00:25:08

if you read it years and years ago and you've forgotten all about the plot it 00:25:08

you've forgotten all about the plot it 00:25:10

you've forgotten all about the plot it still excites you but if you remember 00:25:10

still excites you but if you remember 00:25:12

still excites you but if you remember the plot it doesn't excite and so by the 00:25:12

the plot it doesn't excite and so by the 00:25:16

the plot it doesn't excite and so by the dispensation of forgetting the world is 00:25:16

dispensation of forgetting the world is 00:25:20

dispensation of forgetting the world is constantly renewed 00:25:20

constantly renewed 00:25:22

constantly renewed and we are able to see it again in a 00:25:22

and we are able to see it again in a 00:25:25

and we are able to see it again in a game and to love again and again to have 00:25:25

game and to love again and again to have 00:25:28

game and to love again and again to have people to whom we are deeply attached 00:25:28

people to whom we are deeply attached 00:25:32

people to whom we are deeply attached and deeply fond always with renewed 00:25:32

and deeply fond always with renewed 00:25:35

and deeply fond always with renewed intensity and without the contrast of 00:25:35

intensity and without the contrast of 00:25:39

intensity and without the contrast of having seen before before before before 00:25:39

having seen before before before before 00:25:43

having seen before before before before for always and always and always another 00:25:43

for always and always and always another 00:25:45

for always and always and always another consequence of this is a very curious 00:25:45

consequence of this is a very curious 00:25:50

consequence of this is a very curious realization remember that question who 00:25:50

realization remember that question who 00:25:55

realization remember that question who would I be if my mother had married 00:25:55

would I be if my mother had married 00:25:58

would I be if my mother had married someone else who if I were you we often 00:25:58

someone else who if I were you we often 00:26:04

someone else who if I were you we often say one might so easily have been you I 00:26:04

say one might so easily have been you I 00:26:08

say one might so easily have been you I might so easily have been born in China 00:26:08

might so easily have been born in China 00:26:10

might so easily have been born in China and India why do I feel that the world 00:26:10

and India why do I feel that the world 00:26:13

and India why do I feel that the world is centered in this place as distinct 00:26:13

is centered in this place as distinct 00:26:15

is centered in this place as distinct from some other place you jolly well 00:26:15

from some other place you jolly well 00:26:17

from some other place you jolly well know the world is centered where you are 00:26:17

know the world is centered where you are 00:26:19

know the world is centered where you are and this gives one a very strange 00:26:19

and this gives one a very strange 00:26:25

and this gives one a very strange feeling of the idea that other people 00:26:25

feeling of the idea that other people 00:26:29

feeling of the idea that other people jolly will exist in the same sense you 00:26:29

jolly will exist in the same sense you 00:26:31

jolly will exist in the same sense you do everybody's name is I that's what you 00:26:31

do everybody's name is I that's what you 00:26:34

do everybody's name is I that's what you call yourself so there will always be 00:26:34

call yourself so there will always be 00:26:39

call yourself so there will always be eyes in the world every eye is in a way 00:26:39

eyes in the world every eye is in a way 00:26:44

eyes in the world every eye is in a way the same eye we all might be anyone else 00:26:44

the same eye we all might be anyone else 00:26:48

the same eye we all might be anyone else and there is no escape it goes on and on 00:26:48

and there is no escape it goes on and on 00:26:52

and there is no escape it goes on and on and on so long as there is consciousness 00:26:52

and on so long as there is consciousness 00:26:55

and on so long as there is consciousness anywhere there is I you then in a way 00:26:55

anywhere there is I you then in a way 00:26:59

anywhere there is I you then in a way look out through all eyes and that 00:26:59

look out through all eyes and that 00:27:02

look out through all eyes and that perhaps is the secret of the great 00:27:02

perhaps is the secret of the great 00:27:05

perhaps is the secret of the great virtue of compassion 00:27:05