Alan Watts searchable speech

I wonder if it's ever struck you how 00:00:00

I wonder if it's ever struck you how 00:00:03

I wonder if it's ever struck you how curious the thing it is that most of the 00:00:03

curious the thing it is that most of the 00:00:09

curious the thing it is that most of the things that we experience we regard as 00:00:09

things that we experience we regard as 00:00:12

things that we experience we regard as things that happen to us which we 00:00:12

things that happen to us which we 00:00:17

things that happen to us which we ourselves do not originate which are 00:00:17

ourselves do not originate which are 00:00:20

ourselves do not originate which are events expressing some sort of power or 00:00:20

events expressing some sort of power or 00:00:26

events expressing some sort of power or activity that is external to ourselves 00:00:26

activity that is external to ourselves 00:00:30

activity that is external to ourselves and if you consider that you realize 00:00:30

and if you consider that you realize 00:00:35

and if you consider that you realize that what you mean by yourself is rather 00:00:35

that what you mean by yourself is rather 00:00:38

that what you mean by yourself is rather narrowly circumscribed even events that 00:00:38

narrowly circumscribed even events that 00:00:46

narrowly circumscribed even events that go on in our own bodies are put in the 00:00:46

go on in our own bodies are put in the 00:00:49

go on in our own bodies are put in the category of things that happen to us in 00:00:49

category of things that happen to us in 00:00:52

category of things that happen to us in the same way as things that go on in the 00:00:52

the same way as things that go on in the 00:00:53

the same way as things that go on in the world outside our skins if there's a 00:00:53

world outside our skins if there's a 00:00:56

world outside our skins if there's a thunderstorm or an earthquake well it 00:00:56

thunderstorm or an earthquake well it 00:00:59

thunderstorm or an earthquake well it happens to you are not responsible for 00:00:59

happens to you are not responsible for 00:01:00

happens to you are not responsible for it 00:01:00

it 00:01:01

it but so in the same way when you have 00:01:01

but so in the same way when you have 00:01:03

but so in the same way when you have hiccups you didn't plan on it if you 00:01:03

hiccups you didn't plan on it if you 00:01:07

hiccups you didn't plan on it if you have belly rumbles you have no intention 00:01:07

have belly rumbles you have no intention 00:01:09

have belly rumbles you have no intention of doing it and as to the catastrophic 00:01:09

of doing it and as to the catastrophic 00:01:13

of doing it and as to the catastrophic act of getting born 00:01:13

act of getting born 00:01:15

act of getting born well you had nothing to do with that and 00:01:15

well you had nothing to do with that and 00:01:18

well you had nothing to do with that and you can spend all your life blaming your 00:01:18

you can spend all your life blaming your 00:01:21

you can spend all your life blaming your parents for putting you in the situation 00:01:21

parents for putting you in the situation 00:01:23

parents for putting you in the situation in which you find yourself and this way 00:01:23

in which you find yourself and this way 00:01:29

in which you find yourself and this way of looking at the world in this sort of 00:01:29

of looking at the world in this sort of 00:01:31

of looking at the world in this sort of passive mood as something that happens 00:01:31

passive mood as something that happens 00:01:33

passive mood as something that happens to you goes right down to our general 00:01:33

to you goes right down to our general 00:01:36

to you goes right down to our general feeling about life it goes down to the 00:01:36

feeling about life it goes down to the 00:01:40

feeling about life it goes down to the way in which as Westerners we have been 00:01:40

way in which as Westerners we have been 00:01:45

way in which as Westerners we have been accustomed to look at human existence as 00:01:45

accustomed to look at human existence as 00:01:49

accustomed to look at human existence as a precarious event in a cosmos that on 00:01:49

a precarious event in a cosmos that on 00:01:59

a precarious event in a cosmos that on the whole is depicted as being 00:01:59

the whole is depicted as being 00:02:01

the whole is depicted as being completely unsympathetic and alien to 00:02:01

completely unsympathetic and alien to 00:02:04

completely unsympathetic and alien to our existence in other words if you're 00:02:04

our existence in other words if you're 00:02:07

our existence in other words if you're reared with a 20th century or a shall we 00:02:07

reared with a 20th century or a shall we 00:02:11

reared with a 20th century or a shall we say an early 20th century 00:02:11

say an early 20th century 00:02:13

say an early 20th century cents which is based on the philosophy 00:02:13

cents which is based on the philosophy 00:02:17

cents which is based on the philosophy of science of the 19th century with its 00:02:17

of science of the 19th century with its 00:02:20

of science of the 19th century with its rejection of Christianity and Judaism 00:02:20

rejection of Christianity and Judaism 00:02:23

rejection of Christianity and Judaism you regard yourself as an accident a 00:02:23

you regard yourself as an accident a 00:02:27

you regard yourself as an accident a biological accident in a stupid universe 00:02:27

biological accident in a stupid universe 00:02:32

biological accident in a stupid universe which is mechanical but has no feelings 00:02:32

which is mechanical but has no feelings 00:02:38

which is mechanical but has no feelings no finer feelings a vast pointless 00:02:38

no finer feelings a vast pointless 00:02:44

no finer feelings a vast pointless gyration of radioactive rocks and gas in 00:02:44

gyration of radioactive rocks and gas in 00:02:50

gyration of radioactive rocks and gas in which you happen to occur of course if 00:02:50

which you happen to occur of course if 00:02:54

which you happen to occur of course if you don't have that point of view and 00:02:54

you don't have that point of view and 00:02:55

you don't have that point of view and you are more traditional you look upon 00:02:55

you are more traditional you look upon 00:02:58

you are more traditional you look upon yourself as a child of God and therefore 00:02:58

yourself as a child of God and therefore 00:03:05

yourself as a child of God and therefore under Authority in other words there's a 00:03:05

under Authority in other words there's a 00:03:09

under Authority in other words there's a big bus on top of all this 00:03:09

big bus on top of all this 00:03:11

big bus on top of all this who allowed you at his pleasure to deign 00:03:11

who allowed you at his pleasure to deign 00:03:16

who allowed you at his pleasure to deign to have the disgusting effrontery to 00:03:16

to have the disgusting effrontery to 00:03:18

to have the disgusting effrontery to exist and you better watch your P's and 00:03:18

exist and you better watch your P's and 00:03:22

exist and you better watch your P's and Q's because that Almighty is looking 00:03:22

Q's because that Almighty is looking 00:03:24

Q's because that Almighty is looking after you with the attitude of this is 00:03:24

after you with the attitude of this is 00:03:27

after you with the attitude of this is going to hurt me more than it's going to 00:03:27

going to hurt me more than it's going to 00:03:28

going to hurt me more than it's going to hurt you and when you look at the world 00:03:28

hurt you and when you look at the world 00:03:34

hurt you and when you look at the world in that image or in the other image that 00:03:34

in that image or in the other image that 00:03:37

in that image or in the other image that it's a stupid mechanism either point of 00:03:37

it's a stupid mechanism either point of 00:03:39

it's a stupid mechanism either point of view you take you don't really belong 00:03:39

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you are not really part of all this and 00:03:44

you are not really part of all this and 00:03:48

you are not really part of all this and I could use a stronger word than part 00:03:48

I could use a stronger word than part 00:03:50

I could use a stronger word than part only we don't have it in English we have 00:03:50

only we don't have it in English we have 00:03:54

only we don't have it in English we have to say something like um connected with 00:03:54

to say something like um connected with 00:03:57

to say something like um connected with it essential to it or to put it in the 00:03:57

it essential to it or to put it in the 00:04:00

it essential to it or to put it in the strongest possible way it is quite alien 00:04:00

strongest possible way it is quite alien 00:04:03

strongest possible way it is quite alien to Western thought to conceive that the 00:04:03

to Western thought to conceive that the 00:04:07

to Western thought to conceive that the external world which is defined as 00:04:07

external world which is defined as 00:04:10

external world which is defined as something that happens to you and your 00:04:10

something that happens to you and your 00:04:12

something that happens to you and your body itself is something that you got 00:04:12

body itself is something that you got 00:04:14

body itself is something that you got caught up with it is quite alien to our 00:04:14

caught up with it is quite alien to our 00:04:18

caught up with it is quite alien to our thought to consider all that as you 00:04:18

thought to consider all that as you 00:04:20

thought to consider all that as you yourself because you see we have such a 00:04:20

yourself because you see we have such a 00:04:24

yourself because you see we have such a myopic view 00:04:24

myopic view 00:04:26

myopic view of what oneself is it's as if in other 00:04:26

of what oneself is it's as if in other 00:04:34

of what oneself is it's as if in other words we selected how much experience is 00:04:34

words we selected how much experience is 00:04:42

words we selected how much experience is really to be regarded as me as if you 00:04:42

really to be regarded as me as if you 00:04:49

really to be regarded as me as if you focus your attention on certain 00:04:49

focus your attention on certain 00:04:53

focus your attention on certain restricted areas of the whole panorama 00:04:53

restricted areas of the whole panorama 00:04:56

restricted areas of the whole panorama of things that you experience and say I 00:04:56

of things that you experience and say I 00:04:59

of things that you experience and say I will take sides with that much of it now 00:04:59

will take sides with that much of it now 00:05:05

will take sides with that much of it now we come here right at the start to an 00:05:05

we come here right at the start to an 00:05:08

we come here right at the start to an extremely important principle which is 00:05:08

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the different points of view you get 00:05:15

the different points of view you get 00:05:18

the different points of view you get when you change your level of 00:05:18

when you change your level of 00:05:19

when you change your level of magnification that is to say you can 00:05:19

magnification that is to say you can 00:05:22

magnification that is to say you can look at something with a microscope and 00:05:22

look at something with a microscope and 00:05:24

look at something with a microscope and see it a certain way you can look at it 00:05:24

see it a certain way you can look at it 00:05:26

see it a certain way you can look at it with the naked eye and see it in a 00:05:26

with the naked eye and see it in a 00:05:27

with the naked eye and see it in a certain way you look at it with a 00:05:27

certain way you look at it with a 00:05:29

certain way you look at it with a telescope and you see it in another way 00:05:29

telescope and you see it in another way 00:05:31

telescope and you see it in another way now which level of magnification is the 00:05:31

now which level of magnification is the 00:05:34

now which level of magnification is the correct one well obviously they're all 00:05:34

correct one well obviously they're all 00:05:37

correct one well obviously they're all correct but they're just different 00:05:37

correct but they're just different 00:05:39

correct but they're just different points of view you can for example look 00:05:39

points of view you can for example look 00:05:43

points of view you can for example look at a newspaper photograph under a 00:05:43

at a newspaper photograph under a 00:05:45

at a newspaper photograph under a magnifying glass and where with the 00:05:45

magnifying glass and where with the 00:05:48

magnifying glass and where with the naked eye you will see a human face with 00:05:48

naked eye you will see a human face with 00:05:51

naked eye you will see a human face with the magnifying glass you will just see a 00:05:51

the magnifying glass you will just see a 00:05:52

the magnifying glass you will just see a profusion of dots rather meaninglessly 00:05:52

profusion of dots rather meaninglessly 00:05:55

profusion of dots rather meaninglessly scattered but as you stand away from 00:05:55

scattered but as you stand away from 00:05:59

scattered but as you stand away from that connection of dots which all seem 00:05:59

that connection of dots which all seem 00:06:02

that connection of dots which all seem to be separate and apart from each other 00:06:02

to be separate and apart from each other 00:06:04

to be separate and apart from each other they suddenly arrange themselves into a 00:06:04

they suddenly arrange themselves into a 00:06:06

they suddenly arrange themselves into a pattern and you see that these 00:06:06

pattern and you see that these 00:06:10

pattern and you see that these individual dots add up to some kind of 00:06:10

individual dots add up to some kind of 00:06:12

individual dots add up to some kind of sense now you'll see at once from this 00:06:12

sense now you'll see at once from this 00:06:16

sense now you'll see at once from this illustration that maybe you when you 00:06:16

illustration that maybe you when you 00:06:19

illustration that maybe you when you take a myopic view of yourself as most 00:06:19

take a myopic view of yourself as most 00:06:22

take a myopic view of yourself as most of us do but you may add up to some kind 00:06:22

of us do but you may add up to some kind 00:06:27

of us do but you may add up to some kind of sense that is not apparent to you in 00:06:27

of sense that is not apparent to you in 00:06:29

of sense that is not apparent to you in your ordinary consciousness when we 00:06:29

your ordinary consciousness when we 00:06:32

your ordinary consciousness when we examine our blood streams under a 00:06:32

examine our blood streams under a 00:06:34

examine our blood streams under a microscope we see there's one hell of a 00:06:34

microscope we see there's one hell of a 00:06:36

microscope we see there's one hell of a fight going on all sorts of 00:06:36

fight going on all sorts of 00:06:40

fight going on all sorts of are chewing each other up and if we got 00:06:40

are chewing each other up and if we got 00:06:43

are chewing each other up and if we got it overly fascinated with our view of 00:06:43

it overly fascinated with our view of 00:06:45

it overly fascinated with our view of our own blood streams in the microscope 00:06:45

our own blood streams in the microscope 00:06:46

our own blood streams in the microscope we should start taking sides which would 00:06:46

we should start taking sides which would 00:06:50

we should start taking sides which would be fatal because the health of our 00:06:50

be fatal because the health of our 00:06:53

be fatal because the health of our organism depends on the continuance of 00:06:53

organism depends on the continuance of 00:06:55

organism depends on the continuance of this battle what is in other words 00:06:55

this battle what is in other words 00:06:58

this battle what is in other words conflict at one level of magnification 00:06:58

conflict at one level of magnification 00:07:00

conflict at one level of magnification is harmony at a higher level now could 00:07:00

is harmony at a higher level now could 00:07:04

is harmony at a higher level now could it possibly be therefore that we with 00:07:04

it possibly be therefore that we with 00:07:07

it possibly be therefore that we with all our problems conflicts neuroses 00:07:07

all our problems conflicts neuroses 00:07:09

all our problems conflicts neuroses sicknesses political outrages Wars 00:07:10

sicknesses political outrages Wars 00:07:12

sicknesses political outrages Wars tortures and everything that goes on in 00:07:12

tortures and everything that goes on in 00:07:15

tortures and everything that goes on in human life are a state of conflict which 00:07:15

human life are a state of conflict which 00:07:18

human life are a state of conflict which can be seen in a larger perspective as a 00:07:18

can be seen in a larger perspective as a 00:07:21

can be seen in a larger perspective as a situation of harmony and well it is 00:07:21

situation of harmony and well it is 00:07:25

situation of harmony and well it is claimed you see that some human beings 00:07:25

claimed you see that some human beings 00:07:27

claimed you see that some human beings have broken through to that vision that 00:07:27

have broken through to that vision that 00:07:29

have broken through to that vision that they slipped 00:07:29

they slipped 00:07:31

they slipped somehow or other into states of 00:07:31

somehow or other into states of 00:07:33

somehow or other into states of consciousness where they see the 00:07:33

consciousness where they see the 00:07:36

consciousness where they see the apparent disintegration and 00:07:36

apparent disintegration and 00:07:39

apparent disintegration and disorganization of everyday life as the 00:07:39

disorganization of everyday life as the 00:07:45

disorganization of everyday life as the functioning of a totality which at its 00:07:45

functioning of a totality which at its 00:07:50

functioning of a totality which at its level is completely harmonious and you 00:07:50

level is completely harmonious and you 00:07:55

level is completely harmonious and you could say aha at last I see I got the 00:07:55

could say aha at last I see I got the 00:07:58

could say aha at last I see I got the point 00:07:58

point 00:07:59

point I've seen how all this makes sense but 00:07:59

I've seen how all this makes sense but 00:08:04

I've seen how all this makes sense but what this insight depended upon was your 00:08:04

what this insight depended upon was your 00:08:08

what this insight depended upon was your overcoming the illusion that space 00:08:08

overcoming the illusion that space 00:08:15

overcoming the illusion that space separates things that is to say the 00:08:15

separates things that is to say the 00:08:20

separates things that is to say the space the interval between your body and 00:08:20

space the interval between your body and 00:08:22

space the interval between your body and mine the interval created by birth at 00:08:22

mine the interval created by birth at 00:08:28

mine the interval created by birth at one end and death at the other and then 00:08:28

one end and death at the other and then 00:08:31

one end and death at the other and then after somebody's death then somebody 00:08:31

after somebody's death then somebody 00:08:33

after somebody's death then somebody else's birth these are events with 00:08:33

else's birth these are events with 00:08:36

else's birth these are events with intervals between them and normally we 00:08:36

intervals between them and normally we 00:08:38

intervals between them and normally we regard these intervals in time and these 00:08:38

regard these intervals in time and these 00:08:40

regard these intervals in time and these intervals in space as having no 00:08:40

intervals in space as having no 00:08:43

intervals in space as having no importance no function we tend to see 00:08:43

importance no function we tend to see 00:08:47

importance no function we tend to see the universe itself as really consisting 00:08:47

the universe itself as really consisting 00:08:51

the universe itself as really consisting in all the stars and galaxies 00:08:51

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that's what it is that's what we notice 00:08:55

that's what it is that's what we notice 00:08:58

that's what it is that's what we notice about the space in which all this 00:08:58

about the space in which all this 00:09:00

about the space in which all this happens is sort of written off as 00:09:00

happens is sort of written off as 00:09:02

happens is sort of written off as something that isn't really there but 00:09:02

something that isn't really there but 00:09:06

something that isn't really there but what one has to realize is that the 00:09:06

what one has to realize is that the 00:09:08

what one has to realize is that the space is an essential function of the 00:09:08

space is an essential function of the 00:09:11

space is an essential function of the things in the space after all you can't 00:09:11

things in the space after all you can't 00:09:14

things in the space after all you can't have separate stars unless there is a 00:09:14

have separate stars unless there is a 00:09:19

have separate stars unless there is a space around them eliminate the space 00:09:19

space around them eliminate the space 00:09:22

space around them eliminate the space and you will see you couldn't have this 00:09:22

and you will see you couldn't have this 00:09:23

and you will see you couldn't have this phenomenon at all and vice versa 00:09:23

phenomenon at all and vice versa 00:09:27

phenomenon at all and vice versa you couldn't have the space they 00:09:27

you couldn't have the space they 00:09:29

you couldn't have the space they wouldn't be there in any sense 00:09:29

wouldn't be there in any sense 00:09:31

wouldn't be there in any sense whatsoever if there weren't the bodies 00:09:31

whatsoever if there weren't the bodies 00:09:32

whatsoever if there weren't the bodies in it so the bodies in the space and the 00:09:32

in it so the bodies in the space and the 00:09:35

in it so the bodies in the space and the space are two aspects of the single 00:09:35

space are two aspects of the single 00:09:37

space are two aspects of the single continuum they're related together in 00:09:37

continuum they're related together in 00:09:40

continuum they're related together in exactly the same way as a back and a 00:09:40

exactly the same way as a back and a 00:09:41

exactly the same way as a back and a front and you just don't get one without 00:09:41

front and you just don't get one without 00:09:44

front and you just don't get one without the other so the moment you see that 00:09:44

the other so the moment you see that 00:09:47

the other so the moment you see that intervals that space is connective you 00:09:47

intervals that space is connective you 00:09:51

intervals that space is connective you can understand at once how you are not 00:09:51

can understand at once how you are not 00:10:01

can understand at once how you are not just to be exclusively defined as a 00:10:01

just to be exclusively defined as a 00:10:09

just to be exclusively defined as a flash of consciousness that occurs 00:10:09

flash of consciousness that occurs 00:10:11

flash of consciousness that occurs between to eternal darkness which is the 00:10:11

between to eternal darkness which is the 00:10:15

between to eternal darkness which is the popular common sense view which Western 00:10:15

popular common sense view which Western 00:10:17

popular common sense view which Western man has of his own life that you 00:10:17

man has of his own life that you 00:10:22

man has of his own life that you consider that in the darkness that comes 00:10:22

consider that in the darkness that comes 00:10:27

consider that in the darkness that comes before your birth there was no you and 00:10:27

before your birth there was no you and 00:10:31

before your birth there was no you and in the eternal darkness that follows 00:10:31

in the eternal darkness that follows 00:10:33

in the eternal darkness that follows your death there is likewise no you and 00:10:33

your death there is likewise no you and 00:10:38

your death there is likewise no you and I'm going to discuss these matters not 00:10:38

I'm going to discuss these matters not 00:10:41

I'm going to discuss these matters not by appealing to any special spooky 00:10:41

by appealing to any special spooky 00:10:44

by appealing to any special spooky knowledge as if I had been traveling on 00:10:44

knowledge as if I had been traveling on 00:10:47

knowledge as if I had been traveling on the higher planes and knew all my 00:10:47

the higher planes and knew all my 00:10:48

the higher planes and knew all my previous incarnations and therefore 00:10:48

previous incarnations and therefore 00:10:50

previous incarnations and therefore could tell you authoritative Lee that 00:10:50

could tell you authoritative Lee that 00:10:52

could tell you authoritative Lee that you are much more than this 00:10:52

you are much more than this 00:10:54

you are much more than this individuality I'm going to do it on a 00:10:54

individuality I'm going to do it on a 00:10:56

individuality I'm going to do it on a basis of complete common sense that 00:10:57

basis of complete common sense that 00:10:58

basis of complete common sense that everybody has access to the facts and 00:10:58

everybody has access to the facts and 00:11:01

everybody has access to the facts and that just what you have to realize is 00:11:01

that just what you have to realize is 00:11:05

that just what you have to realize is that 00:11:05

that 00:11:06

that life is a pattern of immense complexity 00:11:06

life is a pattern of immense complexity 00:11:12

life is a pattern of immense complexity and what you call yourself as a living 00:11:12

and what you call yourself as a living 00:11:15

and what you call yourself as a living organism say I am my whole body at the 00:11:15

organism say I am my whole body at the 00:11:18

organism say I am my whole body at the very least now what is that body that 00:11:18

very least now what is that body that 00:11:21

very least now what is that body that body is recognizable and I recognize my 00:11:21

body is recognizable and I recognize my 00:11:26

body is recognizable and I recognize my friends when I meet them again good luck 00:11:26

friends when I meet them again good luck 00:11:28

friends when I meet them again good luck and you recognize me although the last 00:11:28

and you recognize me although the last 00:11:31

and you recognize me although the last time any of you saw me I was absolutely 00:11:31

time any of you saw me I was absolutely 00:11:35

time any of you saw me I was absolutely something entirely different from what I 00:11:35

something entirely different from what I 00:11:37

something entirely different from what I am now just as the flame of a candle is 00:11:37

am now just as the flame of a candle is 00:11:41

am now just as the flame of a candle is never a constant a flame of a candle is 00:11:41

never a constant a flame of a candle is 00:11:44

never a constant a flame of a candle is a stream of hot gas only you say the 00:11:44

a stream of hot gas only you say the 00:11:48

a stream of hot gas only you say the flame of the candle as if it were a 00:11:48

flame of the candle as if it were a 00:11:49

flame of the candle as if it were a constant well it is a recognizably 00:11:49

constant well it is a recognizably 00:11:53

constant well it is a recognizably constant pattern the spear shaped 00:11:53

constant pattern the spear shaped 00:11:55

constant pattern the spear shaped outline of the flame and its coloration 00:11:55

outline of the flame and its coloration 00:11:57

outline of the flame and its coloration is a constant pattern but in exactly the 00:11:57

is a constant pattern but in exactly the 00:12:01

is a constant pattern but in exactly the same way we are all constant patterns 00:12:01

same way we are all constant patterns 00:12:03

same way we are all constant patterns and that's all we are the only thing 00:12:03

and that's all we are the only thing 00:12:05

and that's all we are the only thing constant about us at all is the doing 00:12:05

constant about us at all is the doing 00:12:08

constant about us at all is the doing rather than the being it's the way we 00:12:08

rather than the being it's the way we 00:12:10

rather than the being it's the way we behave the way we dance only there's no 00:12:10

behave the way we dance only there's no 00:12:13

behave the way we dance only there's no we that dances that's just the dancing 00:12:13

we that dances that's just the dancing 00:12:17

we that dances that's just the dancing just as the flame is the streaming of 00:12:17

just as the flame is the streaming of 00:12:20

just as the flame is the streaming of hot gas just as a whirlpool in a river 00:12:20

hot gas just as a whirlpool in a river 00:12:23

hot gas just as a whirlpool in a river is a whirling of streaming water there 00:12:23

is a whirling of streaming water there 00:12:27

is a whirling of streaming water there is no thing that whirlpools there is the 00:12:27

is no thing that whirlpools there is the 00:12:33

is no thing that whirlpools there is the whirlpool and in the same way each one 00:12:33

whirlpool and in the same way each one 00:12:35

whirlpool and in the same way each one of us is a very very delightfully 00:12:35

of us is a very very delightfully 00:12:38

of us is a very very delightfully complex undulation of the energy of the 00:12:38

complex undulation of the energy of the 00:12:41

complex undulation of the energy of the whole universe only by our process of 00:12:41

whole universe only by our process of 00:12:46

whole universe only by our process of mis-education 00:12:46

mis-education 00:12:47

mis-education we've been deprived of the knowledge of 00:12:47

we've been deprived of the knowledge of 00:12:51

we've been deprived of the knowledge of that fact not as if there was someone to 00:12:51

that fact not as if there was someone to 00:12:54

that fact not as if there was someone to blame for this because it's always with 00:12:54

blame for this because it's always with 00:12:57

blame for this because it's always with our own tacit consent because life is 00:12:57

our own tacit consent because life is 00:13:01

our own tacit consent because life is basically a game of hide-and-seek 00:13:01

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because life is pulsation on and off 00:13:05

because life is pulsation on and off 00:13:10

because life is pulsation on and off here it is and now it isn't and by being 00:13:10

here it is and now it isn't and by being 00:13:15

here it is and now it isn't and by being this pulsation we know it's there 00:13:15

this pulsation we know it's there 00:13:18

this pulsation we know it's there see you don't know what you mean by on 00:13:18

see you don't know what you mean by on 00:13:22

see you don't know what you mean by on unless you know what you mean by off 00:13:22

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that's why when we want to awaken 00:13:25

that's why when we want to awaken 00:13:27

that's why when we want to awaken someone we knock at the door not enough 00:13:27

someone we knock at the door not enough 00:13:30

someone we knock at the door not enough to slam the door once with your fists 00:13:30

to slam the door once with your fists 00:13:32

to slam the door once with your fists and make us big noise but you keep up a 00:13:32

and make us big noise but you keep up a 00:13:36

and make us big noise but you keep up a pulsation because that by its on-and-off 00:13:36

pulsation because that by its on-and-off 00:13:38

pulsation because that by its on-and-off Nessa tracts attention all life you see 00:13:38

Nessa tracts attention all life you see 00:13:43

Nessa tracts attention all life you see is this flickering in and out only there 00:13:43

is this flickering in and out only there 00:13:47

is this flickering in and out only there are enormous rhythms in it there are 00:13:47

are enormous rhythms in it there are 00:13:49

are enormous rhythms in it there are very fast flickering ins-and-outs like 00:13:49

very fast flickering ins-and-outs like 00:13:51

very fast flickering ins-and-outs like the reaction of light upon our eyes such 00:13:51

the reaction of light upon our eyes such 00:13:55

the reaction of light upon our eyes such that if I take a lighted cigarette in 00:13:55

that if I take a lighted cigarette in 00:13:56

that if I take a lighted cigarette in the dark and I spin it you will see a 00:13:56

the dark and I spin it you will see a 00:13:59

the dark and I spin it you will see a circle of fire because the reflection of 00:13:59

circle of fire because the reflection of 00:14:03

circle of fire because the reflection of that cigarette tip on your retina lasts 00:14:03

that cigarette tip on your retina lasts 00:14:07

that cigarette tip on your retina lasts it endures just in the same way as on a 00:14:07

it endures just in the same way as on a 00:14:11

it endures just in the same way as on a radar screen an image stays a little 00:14:11

radar screen an image stays a little 00:14:14

radar screen an image stays a little while until it's revivified by another 00:14:14

while until it's revivified by another 00:14:17

while until it's revivified by another round so in that way you see you notice 00:14:17

round so in that way you see you notice 00:14:21

round so in that way you see you notice continuity and in the same way then you 00:14:21

continuity and in the same way then you 00:14:25

continuity and in the same way then you notice the continuity of a light because 00:14:25

notice the continuity of a light because 00:14:27

notice the continuity of a light because although I say with an arc lamp an arc 00:14:27

although I say with an arc lamp an arc 00:14:29

although I say with an arc lamp an arc lamp is actually a flickering light and 00:14:29

lamp is actually a flickering light and 00:14:33

lamp is actually a flickering light and that's why they don't allow arc lights 00:14:33

that's why they don't allow arc lights 00:14:34

that's why they don't allow arc lights to be used in any shop where there's a 00:14:34

to be used in any shop where there's a 00:14:36

to be used in any shop where there's a circular saw moving because sometimes 00:14:36

circular saw moving because sometimes 00:14:39

circular saw moving because sometimes the flickering speed of the arc light so 00:14:39

the flickering speed of the arc light so 00:14:41

the flickering speed of the arc light so synchronizes with the turning speed of 00:14:41

synchronizes with the turning speed of 00:14:44

synchronizes with the turning speed of the teeth on the blade that the teeth 00:14:44

the teeth on the blade that the teeth 00:14:46

the teeth on the blade that the teeth look as if they're not moving and so 00:14:46

look as if they're not moving and so 00:14:50

look as if they're not moving and so anybody who might put his hand on the 00:14:50

anybody who might put his hand on the 00:14:51

anybody who might put his hand on the blade would have it chopped off thinking 00:14:51

blade would have it chopped off thinking 00:14:52

blade would have it chopped off thinking it was a still one so in this way very 00:14:52

it was a still one so in this way very 00:14:56

it was a still one so in this way very fast impulses are looked upon as 00:14:56

fast impulses are looked upon as 00:14:59

fast impulses are looked upon as constant and we see where there are fast 00:14:59

constant and we see where there are fast 00:15:02

constant and we see where there are fast impulses a solid thing when you look at 00:15:02

impulses a solid thing when you look at 00:15:04

impulses a solid thing when you look at it the blade of a propeller or an 00:15:04

it the blade of a propeller or an 00:15:06

it the blade of a propeller or an electric fan the separated four or three 00:15:06

electric fan the separated four or three 00:15:09

electric fan the separated four or three blades become a solid disc and you 00:15:09

blades become a solid disc and you 00:15:12

blades become a solid disc and you cannot throw an egg through it well so 00:15:12

cannot throw an egg through it well so 00:15:16

cannot throw an egg through it well so in exactly the same way you can't put 00:15:16

in exactly the same way you can't put 00:15:18

in exactly the same way you can't put your finger through a rock because the 00:15:18

your finger through a rock because the 00:15:21

your finger through a rock because the rock is moving too fast for your finger 00:15:21

rock is moving too fast for your finger 00:15:23

rock is moving too fast for your finger to go through that's the meaning of the 00:15:23

to go through that's the meaning of the 00:15:26

to go through that's the meaning of the of the whole phenomenon of hardness 00:15:26

of the whole phenomenon of hardness 00:15:28

of the whole phenomenon of hardness hardness in nature is immense energy 00:15:28

hardness in nature is immense energy 00:15:32

hardness in nature is immense energy about acting in a very concentrated 00:15:32

about acting in a very concentrated 00:15:34

about acting in a very concentrated space restricted space but going to beat 00:15:34

space restricted space but going to beat 00:15:37

space restricted space but going to beat health that's why you can't get through 00:15:37

health that's why you can't get through 00:15:39

health that's why you can't get through it now from those very tiny fast rhythms 00:15:39

it now from those very tiny fast rhythms 00:15:43

it now from those very tiny fast rhythms which give us the impression of 00:15:43

which give us the impression of 00:15:44

which give us the impression of continuity there are also in this 00:15:44

continuity there are also in this 00:15:46

continuity there are also in this universe immensely slow rhythms and 00:15:46

universe immensely slow rhythms and 00:15:49

universe immensely slow rhythms and these are very difficult for us to keep 00:15:49

these are very difficult for us to keep 00:15:51

these are very difficult for us to keep track of and they impress us and depress 00:15:51

track of and they impress us and depress 00:15:55

track of and they impress us and depress us as our own life and death as our 00:15:55

us as our own life and death as our 00:15:59

us as our own life and death as our coming and going which goes for what is 00:15:59

coming and going which goes for what is 00:16:02

coming and going which goes for what is to us such a slow pace that we can't 00:16:02

to us such a slow pace that we can't 00:16:05

to us such a slow pace that we can't possibly believe that it is really a 00:16:05

possibly believe that it is really a 00:16:08

possibly believe that it is really a rhythm we think of it as our birth or 00:16:08

rhythm we think of it as our birth or 00:16:11

rhythm we think of it as our birth or something quite unique that could never 00:16:11

something quite unique that could never 00:16:14

something quite unique that could never occur again because we're so close to it 00:16:14

occur again because we're so close to it 00:16:17

occur again because we're so close to it you see and it's moving so slowly and so 00:16:17

you see and it's moving so slowly and so 00:16:23

you see and it's moving so slowly and so with that point of view we are like 00:16:23

with that point of view we are like 00:16:26

with that point of view we are like Marshall McLuhan said he borrowed a 00:16:26

Marshall McLuhan said he borrowed a 00:16:29

Marshall McLuhan said he borrowed a metaphor from me which is that we are 00:16:29

metaphor from me which is that we are 00:16:31

metaphor from me which is that we are driving a car looking at the rear-vision 00:16:31

driving a car looking at the rear-vision 00:16:33

driving a car looking at the rear-vision mirror that means that the environment 00:16:33

mirror that means that the environment 00:16:39

mirror that means that the environment in which you believe yourself to exist 00:16:40

in which you believe yourself to exist 00:16:41

in which you believe yourself to exist is always a past one it isn't the one 00:16:41

is always a past one it isn't the one 00:16:44

is always a past one it isn't the one you're actually in the process of growth 00:16:44

you're actually in the process of growth 00:16:49

you're actually in the process of growth the the basic process of biology is one 00:16:49

the the basic process of biology is one 00:16:55

the the basic process of biology is one in which lower orders are always being 00:16:55

in which lower orders are always being 00:17:01

in which lower orders are always being superseded by higher orders but the 00:17:01

superseded by higher orders but the 00:17:03

superseded by higher orders but the lower order can never figure out or only 00:17:04

lower order can never figure out or only 00:17:06

lower order can never figure out or only very rarely figure out what the higher 00:17:06

very rarely figure out what the higher 00:17:07

very rarely figure out what the higher order is that's taking over and may see 00:17:07

order is that's taking over and may see 00:17:11

order is that's taking over and may see it as a terrible threat as total 00:17:11

it as a terrible threat as total 00:17:14

it as a terrible threat as total disaster has the very end but therefore 00:17:14

disaster has the very end but therefore 00:17:18

disaster has the very end but therefore can never be aware that the principle of 00:17:18

can never be aware that the principle of 00:17:21

can never be aware that the principle of growth always has and always will 00:17:21

growth always has and always will 00:17:26

growth always has and always will continue well that's what's going on but 00:17:26

continue well that's what's going on but 00:17:29

continue well that's what's going on but you never know what the next step is 00:17:29

you never know what the next step is 00:17:31

you never know what the next step is going to be because if you did know you 00:17:31

going to be because if you did know you 00:17:34

going to be because if you did know you wouldn't take it because it would 00:17:34

wouldn't take it because it would 00:17:37

wouldn't take it because it would already be passed do you understand this 00:17:37

already be passed do you understand this 00:17:40

already be passed do you understand this at any suddenly known future is an event 00:17:40

at any suddenly known future is an event 00:17:44

at any suddenly known future is an event of which we can say you've had it 00:17:44

of which we can say you've had it 00:17:46

of which we can say you've had it and in that sense it's past when we play 00:17:46

and in that sense it's past when we play 00:17:50

and in that sense it's past when we play a games and we say in chess or in bridge 00:17:50

a games and we say in chess or in bridge 00:17:53

a games and we say in chess or in bridge or whatever game you're playing the 00:17:53

or whatever game you're playing the 00:17:55

or whatever game you're playing the outcome of the game becomes certain we 00:17:55

outcome of the game becomes certain we 00:17:57

outcome of the game becomes certain we at that point cancel the game and begin 00:17:57

at that point cancel the game and begin 00:17:59

at that point cancel the game and begin a new one because the whole zest of the 00:17:59

a new one because the whole zest of the 00:18:02

a new one because the whole zest of the thing and which takes me back to the 00:18:02

thing and which takes me back to the 00:18:03

thing and which takes me back to the idea that this whole thing is a 00:18:03

idea that this whole thing is a 00:18:05

idea that this whole thing is a hide-and-seek game is that you don't 00:18:05

hide-and-seek game is that you don't 00:18:07

hide-and-seek game is that you don't know what the next order coming up is 00:18:07

know what the next order coming up is 00:18:11

know what the next order coming up is but one thing you can be sure of it will 00:18:11

but one thing you can be sure of it will 00:18:15

but one thing you can be sure of it will be an order and it will comprehend you 00:18:15

be an order and it will comprehend you 00:18:17

be an order and it will comprehend you at the moment we stand at a time in 00:18:17

at the moment we stand at a time in 00:18:19

at the moment we stand at a time in history where we're beginning to think 00:18:19

history where we're beginning to think 00:18:21

history where we're beginning to think of a great countdown on the end of the 00:18:21

of a great countdown on the end of the 00:18:22

of a great countdown on the end of the human race terrifying possibility that 00:18:22

human race terrifying possibility that 00:18:27

human race terrifying possibility that through atomic energy we may obliterate 00:18:27

through atomic energy we may obliterate 00:18:29

through atomic energy we may obliterate this planet and turn the whole globe 00:18:29

this planet and turn the whole globe 00:18:32

this planet and turn the whole globe into a star maybe that's the way all the 00:18:32

into a star maybe that's the way all the 00:18:36

into a star maybe that's the way all the stars started imagine you know this 00:18:36

stars started imagine you know this 00:18:40

stars started imagine you know this great thing coming up to countdown on 00:18:40

great thing coming up to countdown on 00:18:43

great thing coming up to countdown on the end 00:18:43

the end 00:18:43

the end 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 00:18:43

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where have you heard that before you sit 00:19:20

where have you heard that before you sit 00:19:25

where have you heard that before you sit on the seashore and you hear the waves 00:19:25

on the seashore and you hear the waves 00:19:28

on the seashore and you hear the waves going in and out and you don't stop to 00:19:28

going in and out and you don't stop to 00:19:32

going in and out and you don't stop to think that's what you're doing that's 00:19:32

think that's what you're doing that's 00:19:37

think that's what you're doing that's what the whole business is doing and the 00:19:37

what the whole business is doing and the 00:19:39

what the whole business is doing and the replay cies where the wave mounts and 00:19:39

replay cies where the wave mounts and 00:19:41

replay cies where the wave mounts and mounts and it gets too big for its boots 00:19:41

mounts and it gets too big for its boots 00:19:43

mounts and it gets too big for its boots or whatever and it spills and breaks and 00:19:43

or whatever and it spills and breaks and 00:19:46

or whatever and it spills and breaks and we could do just that but very important 00:19:46

we could do just that but very important 00:19:54

we could do just that but very important to realize that that's what you're doing 00:19:54

to realize that that's what you're doing 00:19:55

to realize that that's what you're doing is then you don't get panicky about it 00:19:55

is then you don't get panicky about it 00:19:58

is then you don't get panicky about it and the person who's going to press that 00:19:58

and the person who's going to press that 00:20:00

and the person who's going to press that button as a person is going to be in 00:20:00

button as a person is going to be in 00:20:01

button as a person is going to be in panic so if you realize that that's what 00:20:01

panic so if you realize that that's what 00:20:06

panic so if you realize that that's what it is and that it doesn't really matter 00:20:06

it is and that it doesn't really matter 00:20:09

it is and that it doesn't really matter if the whole human race blows itself up 00:20:09

if the whole human race blows itself up 00:20:12

if the whole human race blows itself up then there's a chance that it won't do 00:20:12

then there's a chance that it won't do 00:20:14

then there's a chance that it won't do it that's the only chance we have not to 00:20:14

it that's the only chance we have not to 00:20:22

it that's the only chance we have not to do this thing which attracts us like a 00:20:22

do this thing which attracts us like a 00:20:24

do this thing which attracts us like a kind of vertigo like a person who looks 00:20:24

kind of vertigo like a person who looks 00:20:26

kind of vertigo like a person who looks over a precipice and is all set to throw 00:20:26

over a precipice and is all set to throw 00:20:28

over a precipice and is all set to throw himself over or a person who jumps out 00:20:28

himself over or a person who jumps out 00:20:31

himself over or a person who jumps out of a plane when they're skydiving and 00:20:31

of a plane when they're skydiving and 00:20:33

of a plane when they're skydiving and forgets to pull the parachute ring 00:20:33

forgets to pull the parachute ring 00:20:35

forgets to pull the parachute ring because he gets fascinated with the 00:20:35

because he gets fascinated with the 00:20:37

because he gets fascinated with the target it's called target fascination he 00:20:37

target it's called target fascination he 00:20:39

target it's called target fascination he just goes straight at it you see so we 00:20:39

just goes straight at it you see so we 00:20:42

just goes straight at it you see so we can get absolutely fascinated with 00:20:42

can get absolutely fascinated with 00:20:43

can get absolutely fascinated with disaster with doom oh you know all the 00:20:44

disaster with doom oh you know all the 00:20:47

disaster with doom oh you know all the news in the newspapers is invariably bad 00:20:47

news in the newspapers is invariably bad 00:20:49

news in the newspapers is invariably bad news there is no good news in the 00:20:49

news there is no good news in the 00:20:52

news there is no good news in the newspapers people wouldn't buy a 00:20:52

newspapers people wouldn't buy a 00:20:53

newspapers people wouldn't buy a newspaper consisting of good news even 00:20:53

newspaper consisting of good news even 00:20:56

newspaper consisting of good news even the Free Press is full of terrible news 00:20:56

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except the San Francisco are okay and 00:21:01

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the fascination you see for this doom 00:21:06

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might be neutralized if we would say 00:21:11

might be neutralized if we would say 00:21:15

might be neutralized if we would say well 00:21:15

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why bother about that it's just a nother 00:21:19

why bother about that it's just a nother 00:21:24

why bother about that it's just a nother fluctuation in this huge marvelous 00:21:24

fluctuation in this huge marvelous 00:21:27

fluctuation in this huge marvelous endless chain of our own selves and our 00:21:27

endless chain of our own selves and our 00:21:30

endless chain of our own selves and our own energy going on see here's the 00:21:30

own energy going on see here's the 00:21:32

own energy going on see here's the problem because of our myopia because of 00:21:32

problem because of our myopia because of 00:21:36

problem because of our myopia because of our the way we've as it were restricted 00:21:36

our the way we've as it were restricted 00:21:38

our the way we've as it were restricted consciousness to focus upon just that 00:21:38

consciousness to focus upon just that 00:21:40

consciousness to focus upon just that certain little area of experience that 00:21:40

certain little area of experience that 00:21:42

certain little area of experience that we call voluntary actions that's us and 00:21:42

we call voluntary actions that's us and 00:21:46

we call voluntary actions that's us and everything else happens to us now that's 00:21:46

everything else happens to us now that's 00:21:50

everything else happens to us now that's obviously absurd let's suppose you take 00:21:50

obviously absurd let's suppose you take 00:21:54

obviously absurd let's suppose you take in your hand one of those toys at a 00:21:54

in your hand one of those toys at a 00:21:56

in your hand one of those toys at a gyroscopic top and you suddenly notice 00:21:56

gyroscopic top and you suddenly notice 00:22:01

gyroscopic top and you suddenly notice the minute you get this in your hand 00:22:01

the minute you get this in your hand 00:22:02

the minute you get this in your hand that it has a kind of vitality to it it 00:22:02

that it has a kind of vitality to it it 00:22:06

that it has a kind of vitality to it it seems to resist you it starts pushing 00:22:06

seems to resist you it starts pushing 00:22:09

seems to resist you it starts pushing you in a certain way see and sometimes 00:22:09

you in a certain way see and sometimes 00:22:13

you in a certain way see and sometimes you're with it and following it then 00:22:13

you're with it and following it then 00:22:15

you're with it and following it then sometimes you see it it's just as if you 00:22:15

sometimes you see it it's just as if you 00:22:17

sometimes you see it it's just as if you held a living animal in your hand you 00:22:17

held a living animal in your hand you 00:22:19

held a living animal in your hand you know you pick up a hamster you know or a 00:22:19

know you pick up a hamster you know or a 00:22:23

know you pick up a hamster you know or a guinea pig and you hold this little 00:22:23

guinea pig and you hold this little 00:22:24

guinea pig and you hold this little thing in your hand it's always trying to 00:22:24

thing in your hand it's always trying to 00:22:26

thing in your hand it's always trying to escape 00:22:26

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so the gyroscope always seems to be 00:22:28

so the gyroscope always seems to be 00:22:31

so the gyroscope always seems to be trying to escape your hole now in 00:22:31

trying to escape your hole now in 00:22:34

trying to escape your hole now in exactly the same way what you're 00:22:34

exactly the same way what you're 00:22:35

exactly the same way what you're experiencing all the time all sorts of 00:22:35

experiencing all the time all sorts of 00:22:38

experiencing all the time all sorts of things are getting out of control and 00:22:38

things are getting out of control and 00:22:39

things are getting out of control and doing things you don't expect it's 00:22:39

doing things you don't expect it's 00:22:41

doing things you don't expect it's trying to escape your hole alright then 00:22:41

trying to escape your hole alright then 00:22:44

trying to escape your hole alright then don't grab it so hard and you discover 00:22:44

don't grab it so hard and you discover 00:22:48

don't grab it so hard and you discover that this living thing that you're 00:22:48

that this living thing that you're 00:22:50

that this living thing that you're feeling like the gyroscope top it's your 00:22:50

feeling like the gyroscope top it's your 00:22:53

feeling like the gyroscope top it's your own life because you can see very simply 00:22:53

own life because you can see very simply 00:22:58

own life because you can see very simply that you would not understand the 00:22:58

that you would not understand the 00:23:02

that you would not understand the experience that you call voluntary 00:23:02

experience that you call voluntary 00:23:04

experience that you call voluntary action and decision being in control and 00:23:04

action and decision being in control and 00:23:07

action and decision being in control and being yourself unless in opposition to 00:23:07

being yourself unless in opposition to 00:23:11

being yourself unless in opposition to that there was something else 00:23:11

that there was something else 00:23:14

that there was something else you couldn't realize self and control 00:23:14

you couldn't realize self and control 00:23:18

you couldn't realize self and control and will unless there was something 00:23:18

and will unless there was something 00:23:20

and will unless there was something other out of control and instead of will 00:23:20

other out of control and instead of will 00:23:24

other out of control and instead of will won't it's the two together only that 00:23:24

won't it's the two together only that 00:23:29

won't it's the two together only that produces the sensation that you call 00:23:29

produces the sensation that you call 00:23:31

produces the sensation that you call having a personal identity only there is 00:23:31

having a personal identity only there is 00:23:36

having a personal identity only there is a funny thing about human consciousness 00:23:36

a funny thing about human consciousness 00:23:37

a funny thing about human consciousness which has been worked out very carefully 00:23:37

which has been worked out very carefully 00:23:39

which has been worked out very carefully in Gestalt psychology which is that our 00:23:39

in Gestalt psychology which is that our 00:23:43

in Gestalt psychology which is that our attention is captured by the figure 00:23:43

attention is captured by the figure 00:23:46

attention is captured by the figure rather than the background by the 00:23:46

rather than the background by the 00:23:48

rather than the background by the relatively enclosed area rather than the 00:23:48

relatively enclosed area rather than the 00:23:51

relatively enclosed area rather than the diffuse area and by something moving 00:23:51

diffuse area and by something moving 00:23:54

diffuse area and by something moving rather than what is relatively still and 00:23:54

rather than what is relatively still and 00:23:57

rather than what is relatively still and to all those phenomena that in this way 00:23:57

to all those phenomena that in this way 00:24:00

to all those phenomena that in this way attract our attention we attribute a 00:24:00

attract our attention we attribute a 00:24:03

attract our attention we attribute a higher degree of reality than the ones 00:24:03

higher degree of reality than the ones 00:24:06

higher degree of reality than the ones we don't notice that's only because for 00:24:06

we don't notice that's only because for 00:24:11

we don't notice that's only because for the moment those are more important to 00:24:11

the moment those are more important to 00:24:13

the moment those are more important to us consciousness you see is a radar that 00:24:13

us consciousness you see is a radar that 00:24:17

us consciousness you see is a radar that is scanning the environment to look out 00:24:17

is scanning the environment to look out 00:24:19

is scanning the environment to look out for trouble just in the same way as a 00:24:19

for trouble just in the same way as a 00:24:22

for trouble just in the same way as a ship's radar is looking for rocks or 00:24:22

ship's radar is looking for rocks or 00:24:25

ship's radar is looking for rocks or other ships and the radar therefore does 00:24:25

other ships and the radar therefore does 00:24:28

other ships and the radar therefore does not notice the vast areas of space where 00:24:28

not notice the vast areas of space where 00:24:32

not notice the vast areas of space where there are no rocks no other ships so in 00:24:32

there are no rocks no other ships so in 00:24:38

there are no rocks no other ships so in the same way our eyes or rather the 00:24:38

the same way our eyes or rather the 00:24:42

the same way our eyes or rather the Selective consciousness behind the eyes 00:24:42

Selective consciousness behind the eyes 00:24:44

Selective consciousness behind the eyes only pays attention to what we think is 00:24:44

only pays attention to what we think is 00:24:46

only pays attention to what we think is important I am at this moment aware of 00:24:46

important I am at this moment aware of 00:24:49

important I am at this moment aware of all of you in this room over every 00:24:49

all of you in this room over every 00:24:51

all of you in this room over every single detail of your clothing of your 00:24:51

single detail of your clothing of your 00:24:54

single detail of your clothing of your faces and so on but I'm not noticing it 00:24:54

faces and so on but I'm not noticing it 00:24:56

faces and so on but I'm not noticing it all and therefore I will not be able to 00:24:56

all and therefore I will not be able to 00:24:58

all and therefore I will not be able to remember tomorrow exactly how each one 00:24:58

remember tomorrow exactly how each one 00:25:00

remember tomorrow exactly how each one of you looked and what you were wearing 00:25:01

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because what I notice is restricted to 00:25:04

because what I notice is restricted to 00:25:08

because what I notice is restricted to things that I think are particularly 00:25:08

things that I think are particularly 00:25:10

things that I think are particularly important if I notice some particularly 00:25:10

important if I notice some particularly 00:25:12

important if I notice some particularly beautiful girl in the audience then I 00:25:12

beautiful girl in the audience then I 00:25:14

beautiful girl in the audience then I might notice also what she's wearing 00:25:14

might notice also what she's wearing 00:25:16

might notice also what she's wearing and that would be memorable but by and 00:25:16

and that would be memorable but by and 00:25:19

and that would be memorable but by and large you see we scan things over but we 00:25:19

large you see we scan things over but we 00:25:22

large you see we scan things over but we pay attention only to what our set of 00:25:22

pay attention only to what our set of 00:25:24

pay attention only to what our set of values tells us we ought to pay 00:25:24

values tells us we ought to pay 00:25:26

values tells us we ought to pay attention to and so in this way we have 00:25:26

attention to and so in this way we have 00:25:31

attention to and so in this way we have this rather myopic way of looking at 00:25:31

this rather myopic way of looking at 00:25:33

this rather myopic way of looking at things and we screen out from attention 00:25:33

things and we screen out from attention 00:25:38

things and we screen out from attention anything 00:25:38

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that is not immediately important to a 00:25:42

that is not immediately important to a 00:25:45

that is not immediately important to a scanning system based on sensing danger 00:25:45

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but quite obviously you as a complete 00:25:50

but quite obviously you as a complete 00:25:54

but quite obviously you as a complete individual are much more than the 00:25:54

individual are much more than the 00:25:56

individual are much more than the scanning system you are in relationships 00:25:56

scanning system you are in relationships 00:26:01

scanning system you are in relationships with the external world that on the 00:26:01

with the external world that on the 00:26:05

with the external world that on the whole are incredibly harmonious going 00:26:05

whole are incredibly harmonious going 00:26:11

whole are incredibly harmonious going back to this illustration of every 00:26:11

back to this illustration of every 00:26:13

back to this illustration of every living body as something like the flame 00:26:13

living body as something like the flame 00:26:15

living body as something like the flame of a candle the energies of life in the 00:26:15

of a candle the energies of life in the 00:26:19

of a candle the energies of life in the form of temperature light air and food 00:26:19

form of temperature light air and food 00:26:24

form of temperature light air and food and so on are streaming through you all 00:26:24

and so on are streaming through you all 00:26:27

and so on are streaming through you all at this moment in the most magnificently 00:26:27

at this moment in the most magnificently 00:26:29

at this moment in the most magnificently harmonious way and you're all of you far 00:26:29

harmonious way and you're all of you far 00:26:34

harmonious way and you're all of you far more beautiful than any candle flame 00:26:34

more beautiful than any candle flame 00:26:36

more beautiful than any candle flame just sitting in these chairs just going 00:26:36

just sitting in these chairs just going 00:26:40

just sitting in these chairs just going no only we are so used to it we say 00:26:40

no only we are so used to it we say 00:26:46

no only we are so used to it we say about that so what show me something 00:26:46

about that so what show me something 00:26:49

about that so what show me something interesting show me something new 00:26:49

interesting show me something new 00:26:53

interesting show me something new because it's a characteristic of 00:26:53

because it's a characteristic of 00:26:55

because it's a characteristic of consciousness that it ignores stimuli 00:26:55

consciousness that it ignores stimuli 00:26:59

consciousness that it ignores stimuli that are constant when anything is 00:26:59

that are constant when anything is 00:27:02

that are constant when anything is constant it says okay that's safe it's 00:27:02

constant it says okay that's safe it's 00:27:04

constant it says okay that's safe it's in the bag you needn't pay attention to 00:27:04

in the bag you needn't pay attention to 00:27:06

in the bag you needn't pay attention to that anymore and therefore we eliminate 00:27:06

that anymore and therefore we eliminate 00:27:11

that anymore and therefore we eliminate systematically from our awareness all 00:27:11

systematically from our awareness all 00:27:13

systematically from our awareness all the gorgeous things that are going on 00:27:13

the gorgeous things that are going on 00:27:15

the gorgeous things that are going on all the time and instead only become 00:27:15

all the time and instead only become 00:27:19

all the time and instead only become focused on the things the troubles and 00:27:19

focused on the things the troubles and 00:27:21

focused on the things the troubles and things that might happen to upset it 00:27:21

things that might happen to upset it 00:27:23

things that might happen to upset it which is all right but we make too much 00:27:23

which is all right but we make too much 00:27:26

which is all right but we make too much of it and become we make so much of it 00:27:26

of it and become we make so much of it 00:27:31

of it and become we make so much of it that we identify our very selves ie go 00:27:31

that we identify our very selves ie go 00:27:35

that we identify our very selves ie go with the radar with the troubleshooter 00:27:35

with the radar with the troubleshooter 00:27:38

with the radar with the troubleshooter and that's only a tiny fragment of one's 00:27:38

and that's only a tiny fragment of one's 00:27:42

and that's only a tiny fragment of one's total being so that if you do become 00:27:42

total being so that if you do become 00:27:45

total being so that if you do become aware that you are not simply that 00:27:45

aware that you are not simply that 00:27:50

aware that you are not simply that scanning mechanism but you are your 00:27:50

scanning mechanism but you are your 00:27:52

scanning mechanism but you are your complete organism then very swiftly 00:27:52

complete organism then very swiftly 00:27:55

complete organism then very swiftly in turn as a consequence of that you 00:27:55

in turn as a consequence of that you 00:27:58

in turn as a consequence of that you become aware that your organism is not 00:27:58

become aware that your organism is not 00:28:02

become aware that your organism is not the way you think about it when you look 00:28:02

the way you think about it when you look 00:28:05

the way you think about it when you look at it from the standpoint of conscious 00:28:05

at it from the standpoint of conscious 00:28:06

at it from the standpoint of conscious attention from the standpoint of the ego 00:28:06

attention from the standpoint of the ego 00:28:08

attention from the standpoint of the ego from the standpoint of the ego your 00:28:08

from the standpoint of the ego your 00:28:11

from the standpoint of the ego your organism is your kind of vehicle your 00:28:11

organism is your kind of vehicle your 00:28:15

organism is your kind of vehicle your automobile in which you go around but 00:28:15

automobile in which you go around but 00:28:20

automobile in which you go around but from a physical point of view your 00:28:20

from a physical point of view your 00:28:23

from a physical point of view your organism is again like the candle flame 00:28:23

organism is again like the candle flame 00:28:26

organism is again like the candle flame or the whirlpool it is something which 00:28:26

or the whirlpool it is something which 00:28:29

or the whirlpool it is something which is a continuous patterning or activity 00:28:29

is a continuous patterning or activity 00:28:32

is a continuous patterning or activity of the whole cosmos the key idea here is 00:28:32

of the whole cosmos the key idea here is 00:28:37

of the whole cosmos the key idea here is pattern let's suppose I'm going to 00:28:37

pattern let's suppose I'm going to 00:28:42

pattern let's suppose I'm going to borrow a metaphor from Buckman's to full 00:28:42

borrow a metaphor from Buckman's to full 00:28:44

borrow a metaphor from Buckman's to full up 00:28:44

up 00:28:45

up suppose we have a rope and the one 00:28:45

suppose we have a rope and the one 00:28:50

suppose we have a rope and the one section of this rope is made of Manila 00:28:50

section of this rope is made of Manila 00:28:52

section of this rope is made of Manila hemp the next section is cotton the next 00:28:52

hemp the next section is cotton the next 00:28:56

hemp the next section is cotton the next section is silk the next section is 00:28:56

section is silk the next section is 00:28:58

section is silk the next section is nylon and so on now we tie a knot in 00:28:58

nylon and so on now we tie a knot in 00:29:01

nylon and so on now we tie a knot in this rope just an ordinary one over knot 00:29:01

this rope just an ordinary one over knot 00:29:06

this rope just an ordinary one over knot you find by putting your finger in the 00:29:06

you find by putting your finger in the 00:29:08

you find by putting your finger in the knot you can move it all the way down 00:29:08

knot you can move it all the way down 00:29:09

knot you can move it all the way down the rope now as this knot travels its 00:29:09

the rope now as this knot travels its 00:29:15

the rope now as this knot travels its first of all made of Manila hemp its 00:29:15

first of all made of Manila hemp its 00:29:17

first of all made of Manila hemp its then made of cotton it's then made of 00:29:17

then made of cotton it's then made of 00:29:18

then made of cotton it's then made of silk it's then made of nylon and so on 00:29:18

silk it's then made of nylon and so on 00:29:20

silk it's then made of nylon and so on but the knot keeps going on that's the 00:29:20

but the knot keeps going on that's the 00:29:25

but the knot keeps going on that's the integrity of pattern the continuing 00:29:25

integrity of pattern the continuing 00:29:28

integrity of pattern the continuing pattern which is what you are because 00:29:28

pattern which is what you are because 00:29:31

pattern which is what you are because you might you know would be for several 00:29:31

you might you know would be for several 00:29:32

you might you know would be for several years you might be a vegetarian and you 00:29:32

years you might be a vegetarian and you 00:29:34

years you might be a vegetarian and you might be a meat-eater and so on and you 00:29:34

might be a meat-eater and so on and you 00:29:37

might be a meat-eater and so on and you know your Constitution changes all the 00:29:37

know your Constitution changes all the 00:29:39

know your Constitution changes all the time but people still friends still 00:29:39

time but people still friends still 00:29:40

time but people still friends still recognize you because you're still 00:29:40

recognize you because you're still 00:29:42

recognize you because you're still putting on the same show it's the same 00:29:42

putting on the same show it's the same 00:29:44

putting on the same show it's the same pattern 00:29:44

pattern 00:29:45

pattern that is the recognizable individual but 00:29:45

that is the recognizable individual but 00:29:50

that is the recognizable individual but we are trained in our language the very 00:29:50

we are trained in our language the very 00:29:53

we are trained in our language the very structure of the language we talk 00:29:53

structure of the language we talk 00:29:54

structure of the language we talk deceives us into misunderstanding this 00:29:54

deceives us into misunderstanding this 00:30:00

deceives us into misunderstanding this because when we see a pattern we ask 00:30:00

because when we see a pattern we ask 00:30:06

because when we see a pattern we ask what's it made of 00:30:06

what's it made of 00:30:09

what's it made of like you see a table is it made of wood 00:30:09

like you see a table is it made of wood 00:30:12

like you see a table is it made of wood or is it made of aluminum but then when 00:30:12

or is it made of aluminum but then when 00:30:15

or is it made of aluminum but then when you inquire into what is wood and how 00:30:15

you inquire into what is wood and how 00:30:18

you inquire into what is wood and how does would differ from aluminum the only 00:30:18

does would differ from aluminum the only 00:30:21

does would differ from aluminum the only thing a scientist can tell you is the 00:30:21

thing a scientist can tell you is the 00:30:23

thing a scientist can tell you is the different patterns that is to say the 00:30:23

different patterns that is to say the 00:30:25

different patterns that is to say the different molecular structure of the two 00:30:25

different molecular structure of the two 00:30:27

different molecular structure of the two things and a molecular structure is not 00:30:27

things and a molecular structure is not 00:30:30

things and a molecular structure is not a description of what something is made 00:30:30

a description of what something is made 00:30:32

a description of what something is made of it is a description of what dance it 00:30:32

of it is a description of what dance it 00:30:34

of it is a description of what dance it is performing what motions what kind of 00:30:35

is performing what motions what kind of 00:30:38

is performing what motions what kind of a symphony this is because basically all 00:30:38

a symphony this is because basically all 00:30:41

a symphony this is because basically all phenomena of life are musical and Gould 00:30:41

phenomena of life are musical and Gould 00:30:45

phenomena of life are musical and Gould differs from lead in exactly the same 00:30:45

differs from lead in exactly the same 00:30:48

differs from lead in exactly the same way that a waltz differs from a mazurka 00:30:48

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it's a different dance and there isn't 00:30:52

it's a different dance and there isn't 00:30:56

it's a different dance and there isn't anything that's dancing that is a 00:30:56

anything that's dancing that is a 00:30:59

anything that's dancing that is a deception we get into because we have 00:30:59

deception we get into because we have 00:31:01

deception we get into because we have two spots of speech in our grammar we 00:31:01

two spots of speech in our grammar we 00:31:03

two spots of speech in our grammar we have nouns and verbs and verbs are 00:31:03

have nouns and verbs and verbs are 00:31:07

have nouns and verbs and verbs are supposed to describe the activities of 00:31:07

supposed to describe the activities of 00:31:08

supposed to describe the activities of nouns and this is simply a convention of 00:31:08

nouns and this is simply a convention of 00:31:13

nouns and this is simply a convention of speech you could have a language with 00:31:13

speech you could have a language with 00:31:15

speech you could have a language with only verbs in it you don't need any 00:31:15

only verbs in it you don't need any 00:31:17

only verbs in it you don't need any nouns or you could also have a language 00:31:17

nouns or you could also have a language 00:31:19

nouns or you could also have a language with a nouns only and no verbs and it 00:31:19

with a nouns only and no verbs and it 00:31:23

with a nouns only and no verbs and it would perfectly adequately describe 00:31:23

would perfectly adequately describe 00:31:25

would perfectly adequately describe what's going on in the world 00:31:25

what's going on in the world 00:31:26

what's going on in the world so if you were used to speaking with a 00:31:26

so if you were used to speaking with a 00:31:28

so if you were used to speaking with a part with a language that had one part 00:31:28

part with a language that had one part 00:31:30

part with a language that had one part of speech you could say just as much as 00:31:30

of speech you could say just as much as 00:31:32

of speech you could say just as much as we can with two and be a lot clearer 00:31:32

we can with two and be a lot clearer 00:31:35

we can with two and be a lot clearer only at first it would sound awkward but 00:31:35

only at first it would sound awkward but 00:31:38

only at first it would sound awkward but you'd soon get used to it and then when 00:31:38

you'd soon get used to it and then when 00:31:40

you'd soon get used to it and then when you got used to it it would be a matter 00:31:40

you got used to it it would be a matter 00:31:42

you got used to it it would be a matter of common sense that the patterning of 00:31:42

of common sense that the patterning of 00:31:45

of common sense that the patterning of the world is not some kind of stuff 00:31:45

the world is not some kind of stuff 00:31:48

the world is not some kind of stuff that's patterning you don't have to seek 00:31:48

that's patterning you don't have to seek 00:31:50

that's patterning you don't have to seek for a substance underlying the whole 00:31:50

for a substance underlying the whole 00:31:51

for a substance underlying the whole thing is this patterning and we're all 00:31:51

thing is this patterning and we're all 00:31:54

thing is this patterning and we're all that and so in this way there is to a 00:31:54

that and so in this way there is to a 00:32:03

that and so in this way there is to a person who really wakes up you very soon 00:32:03

person who really wakes up you very soon 00:32:10

person who really wakes up you very soon realize that your existence is not 00:32:10

realize that your existence is not 00:32:14

realize that your existence is not something that is just the hopeless 00:32:14

something that is just the hopeless 00:32:20

something that is just the hopeless little creature 00:32:20

little creature 00:32:21

little creature that's suddenly confronted with a great 00:32:21

that's suddenly confronted with a great 00:32:23

that's suddenly confronted with a great big external well that goes guy at him 00:32:23

big external well that goes guy at him 00:32:26

big external well that goes guy at him you know and eats him up every tiniest 00:32:26

you know and eats him up every tiniest 00:32:30

you know and eats him up every tiniest little thing that comes into being every 00:32:30

little thing that comes into being every 00:32:33

little thing that comes into being every my new little fruit fly or net or 00:32:33

my new little fruit fly or net or 00:32:37

my new little fruit fly or net or bacterium I will go so far as to say is 00:32:37

bacterium I will go so far as to say is 00:32:43

bacterium I will go so far as to say is an event upon which this whole cosmos 00:32:43

an event upon which this whole cosmos 00:32:45

an event upon which this whole cosmos depends this thing goes both ways it's 00:32:45

depends this thing goes both ways it's 00:32:50

depends this thing goes both ways it's not only that every little organism 00:32:50

not only that every little organism 00:32:53

not only that every little organism which exists depends on its total 00:32:53

which exists depends on its total 00:32:56

which exists depends on its total environment the reverse is also true 00:32:56

environment the reverse is also true 00:32:58

environment the reverse is also true that the total environment depends on 00:32:58

that the total environment depends on 00:33:00

that the total environment depends on each and every one of those little 00:33:00

each and every one of those little 00:33:02

each and every one of those little organisms so that you could say this 00:33:02

organisms so that you could say this 00:33:04

organisms so that you could say this universe consists of a an arrangement of 00:33:05

universe consists of a an arrangement of 00:33:08

universe consists of a an arrangement of pattern in which every event is 00:33:08

pattern in which every event is 00:33:13

pattern in which every event is essential to the whole thing now 00:33:13

essential to the whole thing now 00:33:21

essential to the whole thing now we screen that idea out of our 00:33:21

we screen that idea out of our 00:33:23

we screen that idea out of our consciousness in exactly the same way 00:33:23

consciousness in exactly the same way 00:33:25

consciousness in exactly the same way that we screen out the perception of 00:33:25

that we screen out the perception of 00:33:27

that we screen out the perception of space as an important reality just as we 00:33:28

space as an important reality just as we 00:33:31

space as an important reality just as we pay attention to the figure and ignore 00:33:31

pay attention to the figure and ignore 00:33:33

pay attention to the figure and ignore the background so we see one way of 00:33:33

the background so we see one way of 00:33:39

the background so we see one way of looking at things 00:33:39

looking at things 00:33:40

looking at things mainly that the organism is very frail 00:33:40

mainly that the organism is very frail 00:33:43

mainly that the organism is very frail against the environment it lasts a long 00:33:43

against the environment it lasts a long 00:33:45

against the environment it lasts a long time the environment with the organism 00:33:45

time the environment with the organism 00:33:47

time the environment with the organism only lasts a short time 00:33:47

only lasts a short time 00:33:49

only lasts a short time what do you mean the environment lasts a 00:33:49

what do you mean the environment lasts a 00:33:51

what do you mean the environment lasts a long time what is the environment 00:33:51

long time what is the environment 00:33:53

long time what is the environment consists of just a lot of little things 00:33:53

00:33:59

and yet there is the environment just as 00:33:59

and yet there is the environment just as 00:34:01

and yet there is the environment just as the same way as there is the face in the 00:34:01

the same way as there is the face in the 00:34:04

the same way as there is the face in the newspaper photograph behind all those 00:34:04

newspaper photograph behind all those 00:34:06

newspaper photograph behind all those little dots when you get far enough away 00:34:06

little dots when you get far enough away 00:34:08

little dots when you get far enough away from it you see the face when you get 00:34:08

from it you see the face when you get 00:34:10

from it you see the face when you get far enough away from all the organisms 00:34:10

far enough away from all the organisms 00:34:11

far enough away from all the organisms and the little bits of things you see 00:34:11

and the little bits of things you see 00:34:13

and the little bits of things you see the environment in another scale of 00:34:13

the environment in another scale of 00:34:16

the environment in another scale of magnification but actually the whole 00:34:16

magnification but actually the whole 00:34:20

magnification but actually the whole thing is arranged in a polar system 00:34:20

thing is arranged in a polar system 00:34:23

thing is arranged in a polar system where the enormous depends on the tiny 00:34:23

where the enormous depends on the tiny 00:34:25

where the enormous depends on the tiny and the tiny depends on the enormous and 00:34:25

and the tiny depends on the enormous and 00:34:28

and the tiny depends on the enormous and you get a relationship between these 00:34:28

you get a relationship between these 00:34:29

you get a relationship between these extremes which can be called a 00:34:29

extremes which can be called a 00:34:31

extremes which can be called a transaction that is to say a transaction 00:34:31

transaction that is to say a transaction 00:34:35

transaction that is to say a transaction as buying and selling it's impossible to 00:34:35

as buying and selling it's impossible to 00:34:38

as buying and selling it's impossible to have buying without selling and selling 00:34:38

have buying without selling and selling 00:34:39

have buying without selling and selling without buying so you you always 00:34:39

without buying so you you always 00:34:43

without buying so you you always wherever you are looking at the general 00:34:43

wherever you are looking at the general 00:34:47

wherever you are looking at the general panorama of sensory experience try 00:34:47

panorama of sensory experience try 00:34:50

panorama of sensory experience try switching try shifting your attention to 00:34:50

switching try shifting your attention to 00:34:55

switching try shifting your attention to all the things you thought were 00:34:55

all the things you thought were 00:34:56

all the things you thought were unimportant to the constants to the 00:34:56

unimportant to the constants to the 00:35:00

unimportant to the constants to the background and begin looking at the 00:35:00

background and begin looking at the 00:35:05

background and begin looking at the spaces between people all painters have 00:35:05

spaces between people all painters have 00:35:11

spaces between people all painters have to learn this because especially if you 00:35:11

to learn this because especially if you 00:35:13

to learn this because especially if you are working in oils you actually have to 00:35:13

are working in oils you actually have to 00:35:16

are working in oils you actually have to paint in the background weavers know 00:35:16

paint in the background weavers know 00:35:18

paint in the background weavers know this because when they're making 00:35:18

this because when they're making 00:35:19

this because when they're making patterns in weaving they've got to weave 00:35:20

patterns in weaving they've got to weave 00:35:21

patterns in weaving they've got to weave the background as well off you do 00:35:21

the background as well off you do 00:35:23

the background as well off you do needlepoint with embroidery think of the 00:35:23

needlepoint with embroidery think of the 00:35:25

needlepoint with embroidery think of the hours you spend putting in the 00:35:25

hours you spend putting in the 00:35:26

hours you spend putting in the background over the canvas in wool and 00:35:26

background over the canvas in wool and 00:35:30

background over the canvas in wool and you become aware of it same where the 00:35:30

you become aware of it same where the 00:35:31

you become aware of it same where the people who made the great oriental 00:35:31

people who made the great oriental 00:35:33

people who made the great oriental carpets they are much more aware of the 00:35:33

carpets they are much more aware of the 00:35:37

carpets they are much more aware of the background as constituting an essential 00:35:37

background as constituting an essential 00:35:39

background as constituting an essential part of the total experience so as you 00:35:39

part of the total experience so as you 00:35:45

part of the total experience so as you become aware of this you will see the 00:35:45

become aware of this you will see the 00:35:48

become aware of this you will see the same thing that you notice in music 00:35:48

same thing that you notice in music 00:35:50

same thing that you notice in music namely that it is only as a result of 00:35:50

namely that it is only as a result of 00:35:54

namely that it is only as a result of hearing the interval between tones that 00:35:54

hearing the interval between tones that 00:35:56

hearing the interval between tones that you hear any melody if you don't hear 00:35:56

you hear any melody if you don't hear 00:35:59

you hear any melody if you don't hear the interval you're tone-deaf and all 00:35:59

the interval you're tone-deaf and all 00:36:02

the interval you're tone-deaf and all notes are the same noise all you hear is 00:36:02

notes are the same noise all you hear is 00:36:05

notes are the same noise all you hear is rhythm you don't hear any melody you've 00:36:05

rhythm you don't hear any melody you've 00:36:08

rhythm you don't hear any melody you've got to hear the interval so then watch 00:36:08

got to hear the interval so then watch 00:36:11

got to hear the interval so then watch the intervals between people the things 00:36:11

the intervals between people the things 00:36:14

the intervals between people the things that aren't said the things that are 00:36:14

that aren't said the things that are 00:36:17

that aren't said the things that are tacit the things that are implicit 00:36:17

tacit the things that are implicit 00:36:19

tacit the things that are implicit rather than explicit in all life and 00:36:19

rather than explicit in all life and 00:36:21

rather than explicit in all life and then you begin to get connected now it's 00:36:21

then you begin to get connected now it's 00:36:26

then you begin to get connected now it's very important to have a connection in 00:36:26

very important to have a connection in 00:36:28

very important to have a connection in life and to be in the know and this is 00:36:28

life and to be in the know and this is 00:36:35

life and to be in the know and this is the way it it fundamentally comes out of 00:36:35

the way it it fundamentally comes out of 00:36:39

the way it it fundamentally comes out of seeing the thing you forgot you know you 00:36:39

seeing the thing you forgot you know you 00:36:44

seeing the thing you forgot you know you can always bug people in a beautiful way 00:36:44

can always bug people in a beautiful way 00:36:46

can always bug people in a beautiful way in a very helpful way 00:36:46

in a very helpful way 00:36:48

in a very helpful way by just saying to them what do you 00:36:48

by just saying to them what do you 00:36:51

by just saying to them what do you forget well I don't know was I supposed 00:36:51

forget well I don't know was I supposed 00:36:57

forget well I don't know was I supposed to remember 00:36:58

to remember 00:36:58

to remember oh I'm not I'm really not trying to put 00:36:58

oh I'm not I'm really not trying to put 00:37:00

oh I'm not I'm really not trying to put you on I mean it's not difficult this is 00:37:00

you on I mean it's not difficult this is 00:37:02

you on I mean it's not difficult this is something completely obvious that you 00:37:02

something completely obvious that you 00:37:03

something completely obvious that you forgot you would easily remember it 00:37:03

forgot you would easily remember it 00:37:07

forgot you would easily remember it because it's so obvious well that's the 00:37:07

because it's so obvious well that's the 00:37:10

because it's so obvious well that's the hardest thing in the world to think of 00:37:10

hardest thing in the world to think of 00:37:12

hardest thing in the world to think of what's the most obvious thing I forgot 00:37:12

what's the most obvious thing I forgot 00:37:14

what's the most obvious thing I forgot yeah what's that well who do you think 00:37:14

yeah what's that well who do you think 00:37:19

yeah what's that well who do you think you are well how do you answer that 00:37:19

you are well how do you answer that 00:37:25

you are well how do you answer that question who are you well you give a 00:37:25

question who are you well you give a 00:37:27

question who are you well you give a name you say I'm Joe doak's I'm Alan 00:37:27

name you say I'm Joe doak's I'm Alan 00:37:30

name you say I'm Joe doak's I'm Alan Watts that's not true that's what people 00:37:31

Watts that's not true that's what people 00:37:36

Watts that's not true that's what people told you you were they put that name on 00:37:36

told you you were they put that name on 00:37:40

told you you were they put that name on you and they taught you to identify with 00:37:40

you and they taught you to identify with 00:37:42

you and they taught you to identify with it and to behave as it was expected to 00:37:42

it and to behave as it was expected to 00:37:44

it and to behave as it was expected to behave but that's not who you are 00:37:44

behave but that's not who you are 00:37:48

behave but that's not who you are you know very well go back in your 00:37:48

you know very well go back in your 00:37:51

you know very well go back in your memory go back into your infancy before 00:37:51

memory go back into your infancy before 00:37:53

memory go back into your infancy before they started telling you all this stuff 00:37:53

they started telling you all this stuff 00:37:55

they started telling you all this stuff who are you and if you get with that you 00:37:55

who are you and if you get with that you 00:38:01

who are you and if you get with that you know very well who you are the Jolly Old 00:38:01

know very well who you are the Jolly Old 00:38:11

know very well who you are the Jolly Old Ancient of Days only there's a 00:38:11

Ancient of Days only there's a 00:38:16

Ancient of Days only there's a conspiracy that you mustn't let on about 00:38:16

conspiracy that you mustn't let on about 00:38:18

conspiracy that you mustn't let on about that because everybody is and if one 00:38:18

that because everybody is and if one 00:38:24

that because everybody is and if one person realizes it the other is a little 00:38:24

person realizes it the other is a little 00:38:25

person realizes it the other is a little bit offended and they say well how come 00:38:25

bit offended and they say well how come 00:38:29

bit offended and they say well how come you're so great we worked it in 00:38:29

you're so great we worked it in 00:38:35

you're so great we worked it in Christianity by a very clever thing of 00:38:35

Christianity by a very clever thing of 00:38:38

Christianity by a very clever thing of allowing just one individual to be 00:38:38

allowing just one individual to be 00:38:40

allowing just one individual to be recognized as the God incarnate and 00:38:40

00:38:46

nobody else therefore could be and since 00:38:46

nobody else therefore could be and since 00:38:50

nobody else therefore could be and since he had been safely crucified and whisked 00:38:50

he had been safely crucified and whisked 00:38:52

he had been safely crucified and whisked up to heaven he wouldn't bother us 00:38:52

up to heaven he wouldn't bother us 00:38:53

up to heaven he wouldn't bother us anymore 00:38:53

00:38:58

so everybody therefore who gets an 00:38:58

so everybody therefore who gets an 00:39:03

so everybody therefore who gets an intimation of who they really are and 00:39:03

intimation of who they really are and 00:39:05

intimation of who they really are and ever comes out with it in Christian 00:39:05

ever comes out with it in Christian 00:39:07

ever comes out with it in Christian civilization people say who the hell do 00:39:07

civilization people say who the hell do 00:39:09

civilization people say who the hell do you think you are you Jesus Christ 00:39:09

you think you are you Jesus Christ 00:39:10

you think you are you Jesus Christ I didn't say Jesus Christ said he was 00:39:10

I didn't say Jesus Christ said he was 00:39:13

I didn't say Jesus Christ said he was Jesus Christ and everybody put him down 00:39:14

Jesus Christ and everybody put him down 00:39:15

Jesus Christ and everybody put him down for it and that's what you're doing to 00:39:15

for it and that's what you're doing to 00:39:16

for it and that's what you're doing to me oh let's say forget that one because 00:39:16

me oh let's say forget that one because 00:39:20

me oh let's say forget that one because it's like somebody comes out and 00:39:20

it's like somebody comes out and 00:39:22

it's like somebody comes out and composes some perfectly terrible music 00:39:22

composes some perfectly terrible music 00:39:24

composes some perfectly terrible music and the critics say this man is a 00:39:24

and the critics say this man is a 00:39:26

and the critics say this man is a cacophonous he is completely incompetent 00:39:26

cacophonous he is completely incompetent 00:39:28

cacophonous he is completely incompetent and he said did you ravit read the 00:39:28

and he said did you ravit read the 00:39:31

and he said did you ravit read the reviews of Beethoven's first symphony 00:39:31

reviews of Beethoven's first symphony 00:39:33

reviews of Beethoven's first symphony when it was performed at Vienna now the 00:39:33

when it was performed at Vienna now the 00:39:41

when it was performed at Vienna now the thing is we allowed one person you see 00:39:41

thing is we allowed one person you see 00:39:52

thing is we allowed one person you see one human individual to be the Incarnate 00:39:52

one human individual to be the Incarnate 00:39:56

one human individual to be the Incarnate God because we have all been living in a 00:39:56

God because we have all been living in a 00:40:02

God because we have all been living in a theory of the universe in which the 00:40:02

theory of the universe in which the 00:40:05

theory of the universe in which the individual is simply involved in 00:40:05

individual is simply involved in 00:40:09

individual is simply involved in something that happens to him and we 00:40:09

something that happens to him and we 00:40:13

something that happens to him and we feel that this thing that happens to us 00:40:13

feel that this thing that happens to us 00:40:15

feel that this thing that happens to us is reality 00:40:15

is reality 00:40:16

is reality it is facts that we have to face and 00:40:16

it is facts that we have to face and 00:40:18

it is facts that we have to face and accept and cope with see it's always 00:40:18

accept and cope with see it's always 00:40:21

accept and cope with see it's always something other than you you don't 00:40:21

something other than you you don't 00:40:24

something other than you you don't recognize it as an integral part of your 00:40:24

recognize it as an integral part of your 00:40:26

recognize it as an integral part of your own being without which you cannot know 00:40:26

own being without which you cannot know 00:40:29

own being without which you cannot know what you mean by the word i but in the 00:40:29

what you mean by the word i but in the 00:40:37

what you mean by the word i but in the truth of the matter is though that if 00:40:37

truth of the matter is though that if 00:40:40

truth of the matter is though that if you will face it out every single one of 00:40:40

you will face it out every single one of 00:40:43

you will face it out every single one of us knows that that isn't true 00:40:43

us knows that that isn't true 00:40:45

us knows that that isn't true there is a and as it were a recess of 00:40:45

there is a and as it were a recess of 00:40:49

there is a and as it were a recess of the soul of the psyche where everybody 00:40:49

the soul of the psyche where everybody 00:40:52

the soul of the psyche where everybody knows perfectly well that you are not 00:40:52

knows perfectly well that you are not 00:40:58

knows perfectly well that you are not just this irresponsible little mouse 00:40:58

just this irresponsible little mouse 00:41:00

just this irresponsible little mouse that's been chucked down into this world 00:41:00

that's been chucked down into this world 00:41:04

that's been chucked down into this world but that you are really doing this work 00:41:04

but that you are really doing this work 00:41:08

but that you are really doing this work you're running it 00:41:08

you're running it 00:41:11

you're running it only you can't admit it just in the same 00:41:11

only you can't admit it just in the same 00:41:13

only you can't admit it just in the same way as you can't admit that you're 00:41:13

way as you can't admit that you're 00:41:15

way as you can't admit that you're responsible for the way your own heart 00:41:15

responsible for the way your own heart 00:41:17

responsible for the way your own heart beats you say oh that's not my doing 00:41:17

beats you say oh that's not my doing 00:41:20

beats you say oh that's not my doing I've no control over my heart do you 00:41:20

I've no control over my heart do you 00:41:24

I've no control over my heart do you have any control over being conscious do 00:41:24

have any control over being conscious do 00:41:29

have any control over being conscious do you know how you will and you say I 00:41:29

you know how you will and you say I 00:41:32

you know how you will and you say I intend to take my hand down from my face 00:41:32

intend to take my hand down from my face 00:41:35

intend to take my hand down from my face and put it on my leg I can do that but I 00:41:35

and put it on my leg I can do that but I 00:41:38

and put it on my leg I can do that but I don't know however how it's done so that 00:41:38

don't know however how it's done so that 00:41:42

don't know however how it's done so that what we mean by the capacity of 00:41:42

what we mean by the capacity of 00:41:44

what we mean by the capacity of voluntary control in the ordinary sense 00:41:44

voluntary control in the ordinary sense 00:41:46

voluntary control in the ordinary sense of the word is isn't it we don't 00:41:46

of the word is isn't it we don't 00:41:48

of the word is isn't it we don't understand it at all so you might say in 00:41:48

understand it at all so you might say in 00:41:52

understand it at all so you might say in in a funny backwards way that the only 00:41:52

in a funny backwards way that the only 00:41:54

in a funny backwards way that the only kind of control you really understand is 00:41:54

kind of control you really understand is 00:41:57

kind of control you really understand is that where you're not using your will 00:41:57

that where you're not using your will 00:42:00

that where you're not using your will because you just do it so easy like you 00:42:00

because you just do it so easy like you 00:42:03

because you just do it so easy like you open and close your hand you know how to 00:42:03

open and close your hand you know how to 00:42:07

open and close your hand you know how to do it sure you know how to do it but you 00:42:07

do it sure you know how to do it but you 00:42:11

do it sure you know how to do it but you can't put it into words and explain to 00:42:11

can't put it into words and explain to 00:42:15

can't put it into words and explain to someone how to do it say well come on 00:42:15

someone how to do it say well come on 00:42:18

someone how to do it say well come on aren't you human don't you know I don't 00:42:18

aren't you human don't you know I don't 00:42:20

aren't you human don't you know I don't know close your hands do it silly but we 00:42:20

know close your hands do it silly but we 00:42:24

know close your hands do it silly but we don't realize you see the Justice we 00:42:24

don't realize you see the Justice we 00:42:26

don't realize you see the Justice we know how to do this we know equally well 00:42:26

know how to do this we know equally well 00:42:29

know how to do this we know equally well how to turn the Sun into light how to 00:42:29

how to turn the Sun into light how to 00:42:32

how to turn the Sun into light how to blue the sky how to blow the wind how to 00:42:32

blue the sky how to blow the wind how to 00:42:36

blue the sky how to blow the wind how to wave the ocean how to digest food and I 00:42:36

wave the ocean how to digest food and I 00:42:42

wave the ocean how to digest food and I might add to be digested by bacteria and 00:42:42

might add to be digested by bacteria and 00:42:47

might add to be digested by bacteria and transformed as we transform our steaks 00:42:47

transformed as we transform our steaks 00:42:51

transformed as we transform our steaks we will in turn be transformed but the 00:42:51

we will in turn be transformed but the 00:42:56

we will in turn be transformed but the pattern keeps going and it's always you 00:42:56

pattern keeps going and it's always you 00:43:00

pattern keeps going and it's always you only you see you have this marvelous 00:43:00

only you see you have this marvelous 00:43:02

only you see you have this marvelous capacity to transform yourself without 00:43:02

capacity to transform yourself without 00:43:07

capacity to transform yourself without knowing that you're doing it therefore 00:43:07

knowing that you're doing it therefore 00:43:10

knowing that you're doing it therefore you keep surprising yourself and 00:43:10

you keep surprising yourself and 00:43:12

you keep surprising yourself and therefore you keep on doing it because 00:43:12

therefore you keep on doing it because 00:43:15

therefore you keep on doing it because if you didn't surprise yourself you 00:43:15

if you didn't surprise yourself you 00:43:17

if you didn't surprise yourself you wouldn't you wouldn't go on doing it 00:43:17

wouldn't you wouldn't go on doing it 00:43:19

wouldn't you wouldn't go on doing it it's just the very fact you see that you 00:43:19

it's just the very fact you see that you 00:43:22

it's just the very fact you see that you seem to be the victims of the thing you 00:43:22

seem to be the victims of the thing you 00:43:23

seem to be the victims of the thing you don't understand 00:43:23

don't understand 00:43:24

don't understand and that you seem to conclude your life 00:43:24

and that you seem to conclude your life 00:43:26

and that you seem to conclude your life every time in a wipeout called death 00:43:26

every time in a wipeout called death 00:43:29

every time in a wipeout called death where all your control goes is just 00:43:29

where all your control goes is just 00:43:34

where all your control goes is just exactly that opposite condition to what 00:43:34

exactly that opposite condition to what 00:43:37

exactly that opposite condition to what you call being alive that allows you to 00:43:37

you call being alive that allows you to 00:43:41

you call being alive that allows you to be alive only every time it happens it's 00:43:41

be alive only every time it happens it's 00:43:44

be alive only every time it happens it's like it's new it's like every time 00:43:44

like it's new it's like every time 00:43:46

like it's new it's like every time you're born it seems like it was the 00:43:46

you're born it seems like it was the 00:43:48

you're born it seems like it was the only time but of course if it wasn't 00:43:48

only time but of course if it wasn't 00:43:54

only time but of course if it wasn't like that 00:43:54

like that 00:43:55

like that you wouldn't do it when Hindus and 00:43:55

you wouldn't do it when Hindus and 00:44:00

you wouldn't do it when Hindus and Buddhists used the word karma the basic 00:44:00

Buddhists used the word karma the basic 00:44:05

Buddhists used the word karma the basic meaning of it is action from the 00:44:05

meaning of it is action from the 00:44:08

meaning of it is action from the Sanskrit root tree to do and therefore 00:44:08

Sanskrit root tree to do and therefore 00:44:14

Sanskrit root tree to do and therefore there is some error in the common 00:44:14

there is some error in the common 00:44:17

there is some error in the common translation of karma as a law of cause 00:44:17

translation of karma as a law of cause 00:44:21

translation of karma as a law of cause and effect or of cosmic retribution as a 00:44:21

and effect or of cosmic retribution as a 00:44:27

and effect or of cosmic retribution as a Manso's so also shall he reap has a 00:44:27

Manso's so also shall he reap has a 00:44:33

Manso's so also shall he reap has a Western flavour which is a little causal 00:44:33

Western flavour which is a little causal 00:44:37

Western flavour which is a little causal the way the Buddha put it was slightly 00:44:37

the way the Buddha put it was slightly 00:44:40

the way the Buddha put it was slightly different this arises that becomes 00:44:40

different this arises that becomes 00:44:47

different this arises that becomes because between this and that there is a 00:44:47

because between this and that there is a 00:44:50

because between this and that there is a polar relationship and the full 00:44:50

polar relationship and the full 00:44:55

polar relationship and the full explanation of karma in Buddhist 00:44:55

explanation of karma in Buddhist 00:44:58

explanation of karma in Buddhist philosophy is called pratityasamutpada 00:44:58

philosophy is called pratityasamutpada 00:45:03

philosophy is called pratityasamutpada which means the inter dependent 00:45:03

which means the inter dependent 00:45:08

which means the inter dependent origination of all the forms and phases 00:45:08

origination of all the forms and phases 00:45:11

origination of all the forms and phases of life pratityasamutpada and there are 00:45:11

of life pratityasamutpada and there are 00:45:19

of life pratityasamutpada and there are twelve links shall we say in the chain 00:45:19

twelve links shall we say in the chain 00:45:24

twelve links shall we say in the chain of inter dependent origination 00:45:24

of inter dependent origination 00:45:28

of inter dependent origination constituting a circle and the existence 00:45:28

constituting a circle and the existence 00:45:33

constituting a circle and the existence of the circle depends on the presence of 00:45:33

of the circle depends on the presence of 00:45:35

of the circle depends on the presence of every one of the links 00:45:35

00:45:39

from one point of view in Buddhism the 00:45:39

from one point of view in Buddhism the 00:45:41

from one point of view in Buddhism the chain of inter dependent origination is 00:45:41

chain of inter dependent origination is 00:45:45

chain of inter dependent origination is looked upon as a chain that is to say as 00:45:45

looked upon as a chain that is to say as 00:45:47

looked upon as a chain that is to say as a form of bondage the constituents as it 00:45:47

a form of bondage the constituents as it 00:45:53

a form of bondage the constituents as it were of the vicious circle in which most 00:45:53

were of the vicious circle in which most 00:45:56

were of the vicious circle in which most people and beings are living which they 00:45:56

people and beings are living which they 00:45:59

people and beings are living which they call samsara sa MSA RA samsara the round 00:45:59

call samsara sa MSA RA samsara the round 00:46:04

call samsara sa MSA RA samsara the round of birth and death 00:46:04

of birth and death 00:46:06

of birth and death the Pavich accra the wheel of bhava 00:46:06

the Pavich accra the wheel of bhava 00:46:09

the Pavich accra the wheel of bhava which is becoming and so going round and 00:46:09

which is becoming and so going round and 00:46:13

which is becoming and so going round and round and round in the endless game of 00:46:13

round and round in the endless game of 00:46:15

round and round in the endless game of hide-and-seek is from one point of view 00:46:15

hide-and-seek is from one point of view 00:46:18

hide-and-seek is from one point of view bondage bondage to karma and if you 00:46:18

bondage bondage to karma and if you 00:46:24

bondage bondage to karma and if you study the bhagavad-gita which is not a 00:46:24

study the bhagavad-gita which is not a 00:46:26

study the bhagavad-gita which is not a Buddhist book but a Hindu scripture 00:46:26

00:46:31

Krishna the spokesman of the Gita 00:46:31

Krishna the spokesman of the Gita 00:46:34

Krishna the spokesman of the Gita explains that the wise man is one who 00:46:34

explains that the wise man is one who 00:46:42

explains that the wise man is one who does what is called nish kama Karma nish 00:46:42

does what is called nish kama Karma nish 00:46:46

does what is called nish kama Karma nish kama ni sh kam a meaning passionless 00:46:46

kama ni sh kam a meaning passionless 00:46:53

kama ni sh kam a meaning passionless activity in the sense that he acts 00:46:53

activity in the sense that he acts 00:46:59

activity in the sense that he acts without seeking a result without being 00:46:59

without seeking a result without being 00:47:04

without seeking a result without being motivated by the fruits of action and 00:47:04

motivated by the fruits of action and 00:47:07

motivated by the fruits of action and therefore is not bound by his own action 00:47:07

therefore is not bound by his own action 00:47:12

therefore is not bound by his own action you can be bound to samsara the wheel of 00:47:12

you can be bound to samsara the wheel of 00:47:15

you can be bound to samsara the wheel of birth and death by ion chains or gold 00:47:15

birth and death by ion chains or gold 00:47:18

birth and death by ion chains or gold chains 00:47:18

chains 00:47:19

chains the chains are I mean I'm talking in a 00:47:19

the chains are I mean I'm talking in a 00:47:22

the chains are I mean I'm talking in a more or less the language of popular 00:47:22

more or less the language of popular 00:47:24

more or less the language of popular Hinduism that if you do bad deeds in 00:47:24

Hinduism that if you do bad deeds in 00:47:28

Hinduism that if you do bad deeds in this life you will get bad result next 00:47:28

this life you will get bad result next 00:47:31

this life you will get bad result next time if you do good deeds in this life 00:47:31

time if you do good deeds in this life 00:47:34

time if you do good deeds in this life you may be reborn as an angel or as a 00:47:34

you may be reborn as an angel or as a 00:47:37

you may be reborn as an angel or as a monk in which you'll get a better chance 00:47:37

monk in which you'll get a better chance 00:47:40

monk in which you'll get a better chance of liberation but still so long as 00:47:40

of liberation but still so long as 00:47:44

of liberation but still so long as you're looking for results be they good 00:47:44

you're looking for results be they good 00:47:47

you're looking for results be they good or evil you are still bound 00:47:47

00:47:52

now the way in which one becomes as it 00:47:52

now the way in which one becomes as it 00:47:56

now the way in which one becomes as it were free of karma involves another 00:47:56

were free of karma involves another 00:48:00

were free of karma involves another Buddhists point of view which is a kind 00:48:00

Buddhists point of view which is a kind 00:48:05

Buddhists point of view which is a kind of a different way of looking at the 00:48:05

of a different way of looking at the 00:48:08

of a different way of looking at the chain of inter dependent origination 00:48:08

chain of inter dependent origination 00:48:11

chain of inter dependent origination it's the way which the Japanese called 00:48:11

it's the way which the Japanese called 00:48:14

it's the way which the Japanese called GG muguet that is to say the mutual 00:48:14

GG muguet that is to say the mutual 00:48:18

GG muguet that is to say the mutual interpenetration of all things and 00:48:18

interpenetration of all things and 00:48:20

interpenetration of all things and events so that you could say that 00:48:20

events so that you could say that 00:48:26

events so that you could say that actually in fact deep the deepest level 00:48:26

actually in fact deep the deepest level 00:48:28

actually in fact deep the deepest level of reality this entire cosmos is a 00:48:28

of reality this entire cosmos is a 00:48:31

of reality this entire cosmos is a completely harmonious and blissful 00:48:31

completely harmonious and blissful 00:48:34

completely harmonious and blissful manifestation of everything in a state 00:48:34

manifestation of everything in a state 00:48:38

manifestation of everything in a state of total enlightenment and mutual 00:48:38

of total enlightenment and mutual 00:48:40

of total enlightenment and mutual compassion and therefore the task of the 00:48:40

compassion and therefore the task of the 00:48:45

compassion and therefore the task of the Buddhist or the Hindu discipline of 00:48:45

Buddhist or the Hindu discipline of 00:48:48

Buddhist or the Hindu discipline of meditation the sadhana the way of 00:48:48

meditation the sadhana the way of 00:48:50

meditation the sadhana the way of spiritual development is to realize that 00:48:50

spiritual development is to realize that 00:48:53

spiritual development is to realize that for everybody to realize it effectively 00:48:53

for everybody to realize it effectively 00:48:55

for everybody to realize it effectively in his own life and therefore cease from 00:48:55

in his own life and therefore cease from 00:48:57

in his own life and therefore cease from the illusion that the universe is a 00:48:57

the illusion that the universe is a 00:49:00

the illusion that the universe is a fragmented process of conflict but first 00:49:00

fragmented process of conflict but first 00:49:06

fragmented process of conflict but first of all we have to be clear about karma 00:49:06

of all we have to be clear about karma 00:49:08

of all we have to be clear about karma that it is not to be understood in the 00:49:08

that it is not to be understood in the 00:49:10

that it is not to be understood in the Western sense of a law of cause and 00:49:10

Western sense of a law of cause and 00:49:12

Western sense of a law of cause and effect or of a sort of retribution 00:49:12

effect or of a sort of retribution 00:49:15

effect or of a sort of retribution system or a law the word law is most 00:49:15

system or a law the word law is most 00:49:20

system or a law the word law is most unsuitable for concepts in eastern 00:49:20

unsuitable for concepts in eastern 00:49:25

unsuitable for concepts in eastern Indian and Chinese philosophy the word 00:49:25

Indian and Chinese philosophy the word 00:49:29

Indian and Chinese philosophy the word Dharma DHA our MA sometimes meaning the 00:49:29

Dharma DHA our MA sometimes meaning the 00:49:33

Dharma DHA our MA sometimes meaning the Buddhists doctrine or a certain way of 00:49:33

Buddhists doctrine or a certain way of 00:49:36

Buddhists doctrine or a certain way of life when you talk about a person's 00:49:36

life when you talk about a person's 00:49:38

life when you talk about a person's father Amma you mean their own function 00:49:38

father Amma you mean their own function 00:49:42

father Amma you mean their own function we would translates for Dharma as 00:49:42

we would translates for Dharma as 00:49:45

we would translates for Dharma as vocation service the same as the Latin 00:49:45

vocation service the same as the Latin 00:49:49

vocation service the same as the Latin suus one's own Dharma function in this 00:49:49

suus one's own Dharma function in this 00:49:54

suus one's own Dharma function in this case operation way of life style of life 00:49:54

case operation way of life style of life 00:49:58

case operation way of life style of life profession trade 00:49:58

profession trade 00:50:02

profession trade Rolle means all those things and the one 00:50:02

Rolle means all those things and the one 00:50:06

Rolle means all those things and the one thing that Dharma really never means is 00:50:06

thing that Dharma really never means is 00:50:07

thing that Dharma really never means is law although it's often translated that 00:50:07

law although it's often translated that 00:50:09

law although it's often translated that way because you see you don't get the 00:50:09

way because you see you don't get the 00:50:13

way because you see you don't get the idea of law until you move to a culture 00:50:13

idea of law until you move to a culture 00:50:17

idea of law until you move to a culture where order is based on the idea of 00:50:17

where order is based on the idea of 00:50:20

where order is based on the idea of obedience or in in the West you see are 00:50:20

obedience or in in the West you see are 00:50:25

obedience or in in the West you see are the origins of law spring from where the 00:50:25

the origins of law spring from where the 00:50:30

the origins of law spring from where the laws of the Medes and the Persians the 00:50:30

laws of the Medes and the Persians the 00:50:31

laws of the Medes and the Persians the laws of Hammurabi the laws of Moses and 00:50:31

laws of Hammurabi the laws of Moses and 00:50:35

laws of Hammurabi the laws of Moses and later Roman law the only healthy legal 00:50:35

later Roman law the only healthy legal 00:50:40

later Roman law the only healthy legal tradition we have in the West is British 00:50:40

tradition we have in the West is British 00:50:41

tradition we have in the West is British common law which proceeds in an entirely 00:50:41

common law which proceeds in an entirely 00:50:44

common law which proceeds in an entirely different way from code law because you 00:50:44

different way from code law because you 00:50:49

different way from code law because you see the difference between code law and 00:50:49

see the difference between code law and 00:50:51

see the difference between code law and common law is that code law is laid down 00:50:51

common law is that code law is laid down 00:50:53

common law is that code law is laid down by the wisdom of an all-powerful ruler 00:50:53

by the wisdom of an all-powerful ruler 00:50:57

by the wisdom of an all-powerful ruler who tells everybody how they must behave 00:50:57

who tells everybody how they must behave 00:51:00

who tells everybody how they must behave and they must obey Him but common law is 00:51:00

and they must obey Him but common law is 00:51:05

and they must obey Him but common law is evolved by discussion of particular 00:51:05

evolved by discussion of particular 00:51:09

evolved by discussion of particular cases rather than referring all the time 00:51:09

cases rather than referring all the time 00:51:12

cases rather than referring all the time to abstract principles which are put 00:51:12

to abstract principles which are put 00:51:14

to abstract principles which are put down in words and the judge the good 00:51:14

down in words and the judge the good 00:51:17

down in words and the judge the good judge is a wise man a man with a sense 00:51:17

judge is a wise man a man with a sense 00:51:19

judge is a wise man a man with a sense of equity and fair play who arbitrates 00:51:19

of equity and fair play who arbitrates 00:51:22

of equity and fair play who arbitrates an issue which is debated in front of 00:51:22

an issue which is debated in front of 00:51:24

an issue which is debated in front of him and from the precedent which he 00:51:24

him and from the precedent which he 00:51:26

him and from the precedent which he creates by his decision common law 00:51:26

creates by his decision common law 00:51:28

creates by his decision common law evolves you see that's a more organic 00:51:28

evolves you see that's a more organic 00:51:31

evolves you see that's a more organic way of producing law the code law system 00:51:31

way of producing law the code law system 00:51:34

way of producing law the code law system which we inherit from our most ancient 00:51:34

which we inherit from our most ancient 00:51:37

which we inherit from our most ancient theological backgrounds is a tyrannical 00:51:37

theological backgrounds is a tyrannical 00:51:40

theological backgrounds is a tyrannical method of law by imposition and so you 00:51:40

method of law by imposition and so you 00:51:44

method of law by imposition and so you must understand that in both Hinduism 00:51:44

must understand that in both Hinduism 00:51:46

must understand that in both Hinduism and Buddhism there is really no 00:51:46

and Buddhism there is really no 00:51:49

and Buddhism there is really no fundamental idea of obedience to a 00:51:49

fundamental idea of obedience to a 00:51:53

fundamental idea of obedience to a personal ruler certainly not in Buddhism 00:51:53

personal ruler certainly not in Buddhism 00:51:56

personal ruler certainly not in Buddhism a little bit sometimes in Hinduism but 00:51:56

a little bit sometimes in Hinduism but 00:51:59

a little bit sometimes in Hinduism but even then we get terribly mixed up 00:51:59

even then we get terribly mixed up 00:52:01

even then we get terribly mixed up because for example I was talking with 00:52:01

because for example I was talking with 00:52:03

because for example I was talking with the bhagavad-gita this is often 00:52:03

the bhagavad-gita this is often 00:52:05

the bhagavad-gita this is often translated the Lord's song now for 00:52:05

translated the Lord's song now for 00:52:09

translated the Lord's song now for Bhagavad a gavel in Sanskrit Lord error 00:52:09

Bhagavad a gavel in Sanskrit Lord error 00:52:12

Bhagavad a gavel in Sanskrit Lord error is an English equivalent is quite an 00:52:12

is an English equivalent is quite an 00:52:14

is an English equivalent is quite an appropriate 00:52:14

appropriate 00:52:15

appropriate because the Lord is one who Lords it 00:52:15

because the Lord is one who Lords it 00:52:17

because the Lord is one who Lords it over you 00:52:17

over you 00:52:18

over you Raghavan is a title of reverence and 00:52:18

Raghavan is a title of reverence and 00:52:21

Raghavan is a title of reverence and respect and love the billet the song of 00:52:21

respect and love the billet the song of 00:52:24

respect and love the billet the song of the beloved would be much better in a 00:52:24

the beloved would be much better in a 00:52:26

the beloved would be much better in a way although it's not quite correct from 00:52:26

way although it's not quite correct from 00:52:29

way although it's not quite correct from a strict point of view we don't really 00:52:29

a strict point of view we don't really 00:52:31

a strict point of view we don't really have an equivalent for this word the 00:52:31

have an equivalent for this word the 00:52:33

have an equivalent for this word the bhagavad so the the although you see 00:52:33

bhagavad so the the although you see 00:52:39

bhagavad so the the although you see their hair that has been in India itself 00:52:39

their hair that has been in India itself 00:52:42

their hair that has been in India itself tyrannical rule and although the 00:52:42

tyrannical rule and although the 00:52:44

tyrannical rule and although the arthashastra as a manual of politics it 00:52:44

arthashastra as a manual of politics it 00:52:47

arthashastra as a manual of politics it gives directions to a tyrant as to how 00:52:47

gives directions to a tyrant as to how 00:52:50

gives directions to a tyrant as to how to govern by absolute power going along 00:52:50

to govern by absolute power going along 00:52:53

to govern by absolute power going along with this exposition of this very 00:52:53

with this exposition of this very 00:52:57

with this exposition of this very Machiavellian point of view to 00:52:57

Machiavellian point of view to 00:52:59

Machiavellian point of view to government is the constant advice of the 00:52:59

government is the constant advice of the 00:53:01

government is the constant advice of the sage yes this is what you have to do in 00:53:01

sage yes this is what you have to do in 00:53:04

sage yes this is what you have to do in order to fulfill your office as a ruler 00:53:04

order to fulfill your office as a ruler 00:53:06

order to fulfill your office as a ruler but never forget that you'll never 00:53:06

but never forget that you'll never 00:53:08

but never forget that you'll never succeed the more you try to rule things 00:53:08

succeed the more you try to rule things 00:53:11

succeed the more you try to rule things by force the more you will stir up 00:53:11

by force the more you will stir up 00:53:12

by force the more you will stir up violence against you and so you could 00:53:12

violence against you and so you could 00:53:15

violence against you and so you could never hold on to your power in your 00:53:15

never hold on to your power in your 00:53:17

never hold on to your power in your possessions it will always flow away 00:53:17

possessions it will always flow away 00:53:20

possessions it will always flow away from you 00:53:20

from you 00:53:21

from you so there was one of those great Rogers 00:53:21

so there was one of those great Rogers 00:53:24

so there was one of those great Rogers of ancient India who asked a jeweler to 00:53:24

of ancient India who asked a jeweler to 00:53:27

of ancient India who asked a jeweler to make him a ring that would restrain him 00:53:27

make him a ring that would restrain him 00:53:31

make him a ring that would restrain him in prosperity and support him in 00:53:31

in prosperity and support him in 00:53:33

in prosperity and support him in adversity and the jeweler wrote on the 00:53:33

adversity and the jeweler wrote on the 00:53:37

adversity and the jeweler wrote on the ring it will pass but whenever we come 00:53:37

ring it will pass but whenever we come 00:53:46

ring it will pass but whenever we come to the deep cosmological and 00:53:46

to the deep cosmological and 00:53:48

to the deep cosmological and metaphysical ideas we don't have law in 00:53:48

metaphysical ideas we don't have law in 00:53:52

metaphysical ideas we don't have law in the Western sense and therefore Nature 00:53:52

the Western sense and therefore Nature 00:53:55

the Western sense and therefore Nature is not looked upon as something which is 00:53:55

is not looked upon as something which is 00:53:58

is not looked upon as something which is an orderly system because it is obeying 00:53:58

an orderly system because it is obeying 00:54:00

an orderly system because it is obeying a commandment in the West we inherit the 00:54:00

a commandment in the West we inherit the 00:54:11

a commandment in the West we inherit the idea of law from those ancient 00:54:11

idea of law from those ancient 00:54:15

idea of law from those ancient conceptions of God and it is even passed 00:54:15

conceptions of God and it is even passed 00:54:18

conceptions of God and it is even passed down into science where we discuss laws 00:54:18

down into science where we discuss laws 00:54:21

down into science where we discuss laws of nature but one recognizes more and 00:54:21

of nature but one recognizes more and 00:54:25

of nature but one recognizes more and more in the sciences that what we call 00:54:25

more in the sciences that what we call 00:54:27

more in the sciences that what we call laws of nature 00:54:27

laws of nature 00:54:28

laws of nature I simply observed regularities in the 00:54:28

I simply observed regularities in the 00:54:31

I simply observed regularities in the way things behave and you in order to 00:54:31

way things behave and you in order to 00:54:35

way things behave and you in order to observe regularities you must look at 00:54:35

observe regularities you must look at 00:54:38

observe regularities you must look at things through something regular that is 00:54:38

things through something regular that is 00:54:41

things through something regular that is to say you must lay a ruler alongside 00:54:41

to say you must lay a ruler alongside 00:54:43

to say you must lay a ruler alongside them or compare their behavior with the 00:54:43

them or compare their behavior with the 00:54:46

them or compare their behavior with the regular behavior of a clock but clocks 00:54:46

regular behavior of a clock but clocks 00:54:49

regular behavior of a clock but clocks and rulers are human inventions they are 00:54:49

and rulers are human inventions they are 00:54:53

and rulers are human inventions they are regular measures which we use for 00:54:53

regular measures which we use for 00:54:57

regular measures which we use for comparing the rates of change say a 00:54:57

comparing the rates of change say a 00:55:01

comparing the rates of change say a clock is a measure of a rate of change 00:55:01

clock is a measure of a rate of change 00:55:04

clock is a measure of a rate of change it's quite arbitrary but we very easily 00:55:04

it's quite arbitrary but we very easily 00:55:09

it's quite arbitrary but we very easily compare our regulation measuring devices 00:55:09

compare our regulation measuring devices 00:55:15

compare our regulation measuring devices with what makes things happen as if the 00:55:15

with what makes things happen as if the 00:55:19

with what makes things happen as if the Sun rises because it 6:00 in the morning 00:55:19

Sun rises because it 6:00 in the morning 00:55:22

Sun rises because it 6:00 in the morning now that's being completely backwards in 00:55:22

now that's being completely backwards in 00:55:25

now that's being completely backwards in one's thinking and we get into the same 00:55:25

one's thinking and we get into the same 00:55:28

one's thinking and we get into the same confusion when we imagine for example 00:55:28

confusion when we imagine for example 00:55:30

confusion when we imagine for example that money is wealth here we have 00:55:30

that money is wealth here we have 00:55:33

that money is wealth here we have fantastic wealth you know and we have 00:55:33

fantastic wealth you know and we have 00:55:37

fantastic wealth you know and we have the technological possibility of making 00:55:37

the technological possibility of making 00:55:40

the technological possibility of making everybody on earth the enjoyer of an 00:55:40

everybody on earth the enjoyer of an 00:55:44

everybody on earth the enjoyer of an independent income we can't do it 00:55:44

independent income we can't do it 00:55:47

independent income we can't do it because people say where's the money 00:55:47

because people say where's the money 00:55:49

because people say where's the money gonna come from because they think money 00:55:49

gonna come from because they think money 00:55:52

gonna come from because they think money makes prosperity it's the other way 00:55:52

makes prosperity it's the other way 00:55:53

makes prosperity it's the other way around it's it's it's physical 00:55:53

around it's it's it's physical 00:55:56

around it's it's it's physical prosperity which has money as a way of 00:55:56

prosperity which has money as a way of 00:55:59

prosperity which has money as a way of measuring it but people think money has 00:55:59

measuring it but people think money has 00:56:02

measuring it but people think money has to come from somewhere like 00:56:02

to come from somewhere like 00:56:03

to come from somewhere like hydroelectric power or lumber or iron 00:56:03

hydroelectric power or lumber or iron 00:56:06

hydroelectric power or lumber or iron and it doesn't money is something we 00:56:06

and it doesn't money is something we 00:56:08

and it doesn't money is something we invent like inches so you remember the 00:56:08

invent like inches so you remember the 00:56:11

invent like inches so you remember the Great Depression when there was a slump 00:56:11

Great Depression when there was a slump 00:56:17

Great Depression when there was a slump and what did we have a slump of money 00:56:17

and what did we have a slump of money 00:56:20

and what did we have a slump of money there was no less wealth no less energy 00:56:20

there was no less wealth no less energy 00:56:23

there was no less wealth no less energy no less raw materials in the world 00:56:23

no less raw materials in the world 00:56:25

no less raw materials in the world before but it's like you came to build 00:56:25

before but it's like you came to build 00:56:26

before but it's like you came to build work on building a house one day and 00:56:26

work on building a house one day and 00:56:28

work on building a house one day and they said sorry you can't build this 00:56:28

they said sorry you can't build this 00:56:30

they said sorry you can't build this house today 00:56:30

house today 00:56:31

house today no inches do you mean no inches 00:56:31

no inches do you mean no inches 00:56:35

no inches do you mean no inches not just inches we don't mean we got 00:56:35

not just inches we don't mean we got 00:56:37

not just inches we don't mean we got inches of lumber yes we've got inches of 00:56:37

inches of lumber yes we've got inches of 00:56:40

inches of lumber yes we've got inches of metal we've even got tape measures but 00:56:40

metal we've even got tape measures but 00:56:42

metal we've even got tape measures but there's a slump in inches as such you 00:56:42

there's a slump in inches as such you 00:56:44

there's a slump in inches as such you see and people are that crazy but they 00:56:44

see and people are that crazy but they 00:56:47

see and people are that crazy but they they can have a depression because 00:56:47

they can have a depression because 00:56:49

they can have a depression because they've got no inches to go around no 00:56:49

they've got no inches to go around no 00:56:51

they've got no inches to go around no dollars it's all a lot of nonsense but 00:56:51

dollars it's all a lot of nonsense but 00:56:54

dollars it's all a lot of nonsense but you see because we get thinking 00:56:54

you see because we get thinking 00:56:56

you see because we get thinking backwards making the metaphysical tale 00:56:56

backwards making the metaphysical tale 00:57:00

backwards making the metaphysical tale met wag the dog making the law rule 00:57:00

met wag the dog making the law rule 00:57:04

met wag the dog making the law rule things whereas it doesn't it smithy a 00:57:04

things whereas it doesn't it smithy a 00:57:06

things whereas it doesn't it smithy a way of measuring what happens and so you 00:57:06

way of measuring what happens and so you 00:57:10

way of measuring what happens and so you see when you get into ballistic thoughts 00:57:10

see when you get into ballistic thoughts 00:57:12

see when you get into ballistic thoughts you don't get that confusion the other 00:57:12

you don't get that confusion the other 00:57:15

you don't get that confusion the other way or the other way around so you're 00:57:15

way or the other way around so you're 00:57:18

way or the other way around so you're looking at a system where to go back to 00:57:18

looking at a system where to go back to 00:57:23

looking at a system where to go back to the Buddha's words this arises that 00:57:23

the Buddha's words this arises that 00:57:25

the Buddha's words this arises that becomes which is a way of saying you 00:57:25

becomes which is a way of saying you 00:57:29

becomes which is a way of saying you can't have this without that you can't 00:57:29

can't have this without that you can't 00:57:34

can't have this without that you can't have here without there you wouldn't 00:57:34

have here without there you wouldn't 00:57:35

have here without there you wouldn't know we're here was unless you knew 00:57:35

know we're here was unless you knew 00:57:37

know we're here was unless you knew where there was and they come into being 00:57:37

where there was and they come into being 00:57:39

where there was and they come into being together you don't get first here and 00:57:39

together you don't get first here and 00:57:41

together you don't get first here and then there or first there and then here 00:57:41

then there or first there and then here 00:57:44

then there or first there and then here these arise interdependently that's the 00:57:44

these arise interdependently that's the 00:57:47

these arise interdependently that's the meaning of inter dependent origination 00:57:47

meaning of inter dependent origination 00:57:49

meaning of inter dependent origination and to grasp the idea of inter dependent 00:57:49

and to grasp the idea of inter dependent 00:57:54

and to grasp the idea of inter dependent origination is as important as the idea 00:57:54

origination is as important as the idea 00:57:56

origination is as important as the idea about seeing how things are related by 00:57:56

about seeing how things are related by 00:57:58

about seeing how things are related by space and intervals and seeing therefore 00:57:58

space and intervals and seeing therefore 00:58:03

space and intervals and seeing therefore that you you tend to look at life from a 00:58:03

that you you tend to look at life from a 00:58:06

that you you tend to look at life from a myopic point of view and see details see 00:58:06

myopic point of view and see details see 00:58:09

myopic point of view and see details see the trees and not the forest see 00:58:09

the trees and not the forest see 00:58:12

the trees and not the forest see yourself as something loosely related to 00:58:12

yourself as something loosely related to 00:58:17

yourself as something loosely related to everything else that's going on and not 00:58:17

everything else that's going on and not 00:58:20

everything else that's going on and not integral to it you see the the figure 00:58:20

integral to it you see the the figure 00:58:24

integral to it you see the the figure but ignore the background but the figure 00:58:24

but ignore the background but the figure 00:58:26

but ignore the background but the figure in the background arise mutually they 00:58:26

in the background arise mutually they 00:58:30

in the background arise mutually they are to each other as this is to that and 00:58:30

are to each other as this is to that and 00:58:34

are to each other as this is to that and so we really have to rid our brains of 00:58:34

so we really have to rid our brains of 00:58:38

so we really have to rid our brains of the notion of causality the notion of 00:58:38

the notion of causality the notion of 00:58:41

the notion of causality the notion of causality being that present sets of 00:58:41

causality being that present sets of 00:58:45

causality being that present sets of circumstances are the result of past 00:58:45

circumstances are the result of past 00:58:48

circumstances are the result of past sets of 00:58:48

sets of 00:58:48

sets of instances and that therefore certain 00:58:48

instances and that therefore certain 00:58:53

instances and that therefore certain events which are called causes are 00:58:53

events which are called causes are 00:58:56

events which are called causes are responsible for following events called 00:58:56

responsible for following events called 00:59:00

responsible for following events called effects and all this is an enormous 00:59:00

effects and all this is an enormous 00:59:03

effects and all this is an enormous piece of mumbo-jumbo 00:59:03

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because what is not seen and what is not 00:59:06

because what is not seen and what is not 00:59:09

because what is not seen and what is not clear in thinking that way is that in 00:59:09

clear in thinking that way is that in 00:59:12

clear in thinking that way is that in physical nature there are no separate 00:59:12

physical nature there are no separate 00:59:16

physical nature there are no separate events so startling to people but it's 00:59:16

events so startling to people but it's 00:59:22

events so startling to people but it's really quite easy to see that there are 00:59:22

really quite easy to see that there are 00:59:23

really quite easy to see that there are no events in nature because you can ask 00:59:23

no events in nature because you can ask 00:59:30

no events in nature because you can ask very simply let's take something called 00:59:30

very simply let's take something called 00:59:33

very simply let's take something called an event how do we do market from other 00:59:33

an event how do we do market from other 00:59:37

an event how do we do market from other events at what point shall we say were 00:59:37

events at what point shall we say were 00:59:43

events at what point shall we say were you born were you born at parturition or 00:59:43

you born were you born at parturition or 00:59:50

you born were you born at parturition or when the doctor slapped you on the 00:59:50

when the doctor slapped you on the 00:59:52

when the doctor slapped you on the bottom or cut the umbilical cord or when 00:59:52

bottom or cut the umbilical cord or when 00:59:55

bottom or cut the umbilical cord or when you were conceived or when your father 00:59:55

you were conceived or when your father 00:59:59

you were conceived or when your father and mother were first attracted to each 00:59:59

and mother were first attracted to each 01:00:00

and mother were first attracted to each other when was it when did you begin 01:00:00

other when was it when did you begin 01:00:02

other when was it when did you begin there's no way of deciding except 01:00:02

there's no way of deciding except 01:00:04

there's no way of deciding except arbitrarily and for legal purposes we 01:00:04

arbitrarily and for legal purposes we 01:00:06

arbitrarily and for legal purposes we say you were born at parturition and 01:00:06

say you were born at parturition and 01:00:10

say you were born at parturition and that's when the astrologer casts your 01:00:10

that's when the astrologer casts your 01:00:13

that's when the astrologer casts your horoscope accept that other astrologers 01:00:13

horoscope accept that other astrologers 01:00:15

horoscope accept that other astrologers disagree and want the conception time 01:00:15

disagree and want the conception time 01:00:17

disagree and want the conception time and say that's the real beginning there 01:00:17

and say that's the real beginning there 01:00:22

and say that's the real beginning there isn't a real beginning it goes back and 01:00:22

isn't a real beginning it goes back and 01:00:24

isn't a real beginning it goes back and back and back in an inseparable 01:00:24

back and back in an inseparable 01:00:26

back and back in an inseparable continuity when are you dead that's 01:00:26

continuity when are you dead that's 01:00:29

continuity when are you dead that's another big argument and you couldn't 01:00:29

another big argument and you couldn't 01:00:32

another big argument and you couldn't all you can get all kinds of ideas about 01:00:32

all you can get all kinds of ideas about 01:00:34

all you can get all kinds of ideas about that so what once you see that an event 01:00:34

that so what once you see that an event 01:00:39

that so what once you see that an event is a term in an intellectual calculus 01:00:39

01:00:49

calculus being the way of measuring say 01:00:49

calculus being the way of measuring say 01:00:54

calculus being the way of measuring say curved formations by reducing them to 01:00:54

curved formations by reducing them to 01:00:57

curved formations by reducing them to point instance and Counting it you see 01:00:57

point instance and Counting it you see 01:01:02

point instance and Counting it you see but actually the point instance our 01:01:02

but actually the point instance our 01:01:04

but actually the point instance our imaginary the curve Wiggles along and it 01:01:04

imaginary the curve Wiggles along and it 01:01:08

imaginary the curve Wiggles along and it doesn't start out from point to point 01:01:08

doesn't start out from point to point 01:01:11

doesn't start out from point to point but in calculus you make it do that so 01:01:11

but in calculus you make it do that so 01:01:17

but in calculus you make it do that so just as there are no point instants in 01:01:17

just as there are no point instants in 01:01:21

just as there are no point instants in the curve so there are no events in 01:01:21

the curve so there are no events in 01:01:25

the curve so there are no events in nature nature is a constantly 01:01:25

nature nature is a constantly 01:01:34

nature nature is a constantly fluctuating pattern you can only 01:01:34

fluctuating pattern you can only 01:01:37

fluctuating pattern you can only designate particular Wiggles in a 01:01:37

designate particular Wiggles in a 01:01:40

designate particular Wiggles in a pattern arbitrarily you can count a 01:01:40

pattern arbitrarily you can count a 01:01:46

pattern arbitrarily you can count a convex formation as one wiggle or a 01:01:46

convex formation as one wiggle or a 01:01:50

convex formation as one wiggle or a concave formation as one wiggle then you 01:01:50

concave formation as one wiggle then you 01:01:55

concave formation as one wiggle then you decide if you call it one way well if 01:01:55

decide if you call it one way well if 01:01:57

decide if you call it one way well if you give the convex properties the title 01:01:57

you give the convex properties the title 01:02:00

you give the convex properties the title of wiggle you have to deny it to the 01:02:00

of wiggle you have to deny it to the 01:02:01

of wiggle you have to deny it to the concave properties and vice-versa so 01:02:01

concave properties and vice-versa so 01:02:08

concave properties and vice-versa so when you see that what we call separate 01:02:08

when you see that what we call separate 01:02:11

when you see that what we call separate events don't exist 01:02:11

events don't exist 01:02:13

events don't exist it becomes nonsense to speak of one 01:02:13

it becomes nonsense to speak of one 01:02:17

it becomes nonsense to speak of one event causing another what you really 01:02:17

event causing another what you really 01:02:21

event causing another what you really mean is that the two events which you 01:02:21

mean is that the two events which you 01:02:24

mean is that the two events which you speak of as being causally related are 01:02:24

speak of as being causally related are 01:02:26

speak of as being causally related are simply two parts of the same event they 01:02:26

simply two parts of the same event they 01:02:30

simply two parts of the same event they go with each other in the same way as 01:02:30

go with each other in the same way as 01:02:32

go with each other in the same way as this with that the relationship is not 01:02:32

this with that the relationship is not 01:02:35

this with that the relationship is not causal it is mutual and it works two 01:02:35

causal it is mutual and it works two 01:02:43

causal it is mutual and it works two ways in time because future so-called 01:02:43

ways in time because future so-called 01:02:47

ways in time because future so-called future events are not merely passive to 01:02:47

future events are not merely passive to 01:02:54

future events are not merely passive to past events but you could easily see 01:02:54

past events but you could easily see 01:02:58

past events but you could easily see when for example any biological process 01:02:58

when for example any biological process 01:03:02

when for example any biological process goes on you can reason just as well from 01:03:02

goes on you can reason just as well from 01:03:08

goes on you can reason just as well from the future to the past is from the past 01:03:08

the future to the past is from the past 01:03:09

the future to the past is from the past of the future why do two mammals have 01:03:09

of the future why do two mammals have 01:03:12

of the future why do two mammals have sexual intercourse 01:03:12

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well it isn't just that they enjoy it 01:03:15

well it isn't just that they enjoy it 01:03:18

well it isn't just that they enjoy it it's also that they're a very complex 01:03:18

it's also that they're a very complex 01:03:21

it's also that they're a very complex system which does this because it makes 01:03:21

system which does this because it makes 01:03:24

system which does this because it makes babies and the prospect of baby works in 01:03:24

babies and the prospect of baby works in 01:03:31

babies and the prospect of baby works in Reverse and creates desire you can 01:03:31

Reverse and creates desire you can 01:03:35

Reverse and creates desire you can reason that way all it's silly because 01:03:35

reason that way all it's silly because 01:03:39

reason that way all it's silly because the whole process is one and when we 01:03:39

the whole process is one and when we 01:03:43

the whole process is one and when we speak humanly and purposively I am going 01:03:43

speak humanly and purposively I am going 01:03:45

speak humanly and purposively I am going downtown to buy groceries then a future 01:03:45

downtown to buy groceries then a future 01:03:49

downtown to buy groceries then a future event could be said to be the cause of 01:03:49

event could be said to be the cause of 01:03:51

event could be said to be the cause of why you're now starting out to get into 01:03:51

why you're now starting out to get into 01:03:53

why you're now starting out to get into the car buying groceries and the the 01:03:53

the car buying groceries and the the 01:03:59

the car buying groceries and the the difficulty we have in seeing this to be 01:03:59

difficulty we have in seeing this to be 01:04:01

difficulty we have in seeing this to be so is that we think in an either/or way 01:04:01

so is that we think in an either/or way 01:04:05

so is that we think in an either/or way which is what is called dualism in Hindu 01:04:05

which is what is called dualism in Hindu 01:04:10

which is what is called dualism in Hindu Buddhist thought and that liberation is 01:04:10

Buddhist thought and that liberation is 01:04:11

Buddhist thought and that liberation is being free from dualism so when you 01:04:11

being free from dualism so when you 01:04:15

being free from dualism so when you think in an either/or way you see the 01:04:15

think in an either/or way you see the 01:04:21

think in an either/or way you see the figures in the background as moving and 01:04:21

figures in the background as moving and 01:04:24

figures in the background as moving and therefore being responsible for their 01:04:24

therefore being responsible for their 01:04:27

therefore being responsible for their action but if somebody argues the other 01:04:27

action but if somebody argues the other 01:04:31

action but if somebody argues the other way around say the figures are just 01:04:31

way around say the figures are just 01:04:33

way around say the figures are just following lines of force in a field 01:04:33

following lines of force in a field 01:04:35

following lines of force in a field gravitational principles say we're all 01:04:35

gravitational principles say we're all 01:04:37

gravitational principles say we're all human beings you see we're all 01:04:37

human beings you see we're all 01:04:39

human beings you see we're all concentrated on our fact that we're 01:04:39

concentrated on our fact that we're 01:04:41

concentrated on our fact that we're individually rushing around and doing 01:04:41

individually rushing around and doing 01:04:43

individually rushing around and doing this and that but we don't see that we 01:04:43

this and that but we don't see that we 01:04:47

this and that but we don't see that we are equally sucked and that we move 01:04:47

are equally sucked and that we move 01:04:51

are equally sucked and that we move around in response to all sorts of 01:04:51

around in response to all sorts of 01:04:52

around in response to all sorts of stimuli but neither position is adequate 01:04:52

stimuli but neither position is adequate 01:04:58

stimuli but neither position is adequate you have to see that our being sucked by 01:04:58

you have to see that our being sucked by 01:05:02

you have to see that our being sucked by all sorts of stimuli is exactly the same 01:05:02

all sorts of stimuli is exactly the same 01:05:06

all sorts of stimuli is exactly the same thing as our apparently voluntary and 01:05:06

thing as our apparently voluntary and 01:05:10

thing as our apparently voluntary and deliberate action because what we're 01:05:10

deliberate action because what we're 01:05:14

deliberate action because what we're looking at is not this Newtonian game of 01:05:14

looking at is not this Newtonian game of 01:05:16

looking at is not this Newtonian game of billiards where balls roll because they 01:05:16

billiards where balls roll because they 01:05:19

billiards where balls roll because they are hit by cues what we're involved in 01:05:19

are hit by cues what we're involved in 01:05:23

are hit by cues what we're involved in is a dance where for example watch a 01:05:23

is a dance where for example watch a 01:05:26

is a dance where for example watch a snake when a snake swim 01:05:26

snake when a snake swim 01:05:29

snake when a snake swim more beautiful than watching a snake 01:05:29

more beautiful than watching a snake 01:05:30

more beautiful than watching a snake swim in water lovely motion but you see 01:05:30

swim in water lovely motion but you see 01:05:35

swim in water lovely motion but you see it Wiggles along and it's wiggle is 01:05:35

it Wiggles along and it's wiggle is 01:05:37

it Wiggles along and it's wiggle is conceivable you see as convex or was it 01:05:37

conceivable you see as convex or was it 01:05:40

conceivable you see as convex or was it concave this way and that way and this 01:05:40

concave this way and that way and this 01:05:43

concave this way and that way and this way and that way now which side of the 01:05:43

way and that way now which side of the 01:05:45

way and that way now which side of the snake moves first when it Wiggles so 01:05:45

snake moves first when it Wiggles so 01:05:50

snake moves first when it Wiggles so it's very easy to see there now when we 01:05:50

it's very easy to see there now when we 01:05:53

it's very easy to see there now when we Bay act interact with the world what 01:05:53

Bay act interact with the world what 01:05:55

Bay act interact with the world what moves first who starts it the objective 01:05:55

moves first who starts it the objective 01:05:58

moves first who starts it the objective world or the subjective world but they 01:05:58

world or the subjective world but they 01:06:01

world or the subjective world but they are related as this to that you can't 01:06:01

are related as this to that you can't 01:06:03

are related as this to that you can't have an object without a subject or a 01:06:03

have an object without a subject or a 01:06:05

have an object without a subject or a subject without an object kind of 01:06:05

subject without an object kind of 01:06:06

subject without an object kind of something known without the Noah and 01:06:06

something known without the Noah and 01:06:09

something known without the Noah and that gives the show away there isn't any 01:06:09

that gives the show away there isn't any 01:06:10

that gives the show away there isn't any real distinction between the knower and 01:06:10

real distinction between the knower and 01:06:12

real distinction between the knower and the known there's two ways of looking at 01:06:12

the known there's two ways of looking at 01:06:16

the known there's two ways of looking at something yes two poles of a single 01:06:16

something yes two poles of a single 01:06:18

something yes two poles of a single process but the knower and the known are 01:06:18

process but the knower and the known are 01:06:21

process but the knower and the known are subsumed as the knowing and all life is 01:06:21

subsumed as the knowing and all life is 01:06:24

subsumed as the knowing and all life is knowing being becoming and it isn't 01:06:24

knowing being becoming and it isn't 01:06:30

knowing being becoming and it isn't something in other words that works by 01:06:30

something in other words that works by 01:06:33

something in other words that works by the idea of all this happens because 01:06:33

the idea of all this happens because 01:06:35

the idea of all this happens because someone shoves it now you see the idea 01:06:35

someone shoves it now you see the idea 01:06:37

someone shoves it now you see the idea all this happens because someone shoves 01:06:37

all this happens because someone shoves 01:06:39

all this happens because someone shoves it is basic to western thinking there is 01:06:39

it is basic to western thinking there is 01:06:42

it is basic to western thinking there is the Lord God who's the boss and he 01:06:42

the Lord God who's the boss and he 01:06:46

the Lord God who's the boss and he sloshes this universe into being and 01:06:46

sloshes this universe into being and 01:06:49

sloshes this universe into being and shoves it and sets it going and you 01:06:49

shoves it and sets it going and you 01:06:54

shoves it and sets it going and you better obey that shove because he's 01:06:54

better obey that shove because he's 01:06:56

better obey that shove because he's introduced into it some recalcitrance by 01:06:56

introduced into it some recalcitrance by 01:06:59

introduced into it some recalcitrance by giving to human beings what the Hebrews 01:06:59

giving to human beings what the Hebrews 01:07:02

giving to human beings what the Hebrews called the yet Sahara the wayward spirit 01:07:02

called the yet Sahara the wayward spirit 01:07:05

called the yet Sahara the wayward spirit so that they shall be able to play 01:07:05

so that they shall be able to play 01:07:08

so that they shall be able to play certain games on their own because 01:07:08

certain games on their own because 01:07:10

certain games on their own because nothing very interesting would happen if 01:07:10

nothing very interesting would happen if 01:07:12

nothing very interesting would happen if everybody obeyed God the whole world 01:07:12

everybody obeyed God the whole world 01:07:16

everybody obeyed God the whole world would be like a lifeless thing see so 01:07:16

would be like a lifeless thing see so 01:07:19

would be like a lifeless thing see so they had to reason that into it in order 01:07:19

they had to reason that into it in order 01:07:21

they had to reason that into it in order to save face for God practically because 01:07:21

to save face for God practically because 01:07:25

to save face for God practically because otherwise he could be blamed for all the 01:07:25

otherwise he could be blamed for all the 01:07:27

otherwise he could be blamed for all the catastrophes that happened instead of 01:07:27

catastrophes that happened instead of 01:07:29

catastrophes that happened instead of our being able to say to each other well 01:07:29

our being able to say to each other well 01:07:30

our being able to say to each other well it's our fault 01:07:30

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[Music] this concludes CD number one but do you 01:07:47

this concludes CD number one but do you 01:07:51

this concludes CD number one but do you do it or does it do you with Alan Watts 01:07:51

do it or does it do you with Alan Watts 01:07:53

do it or does it do you with Alan Watts our program continues with CD number two 01:07:53

our program continues with CD number two 01:07:57

our program continues with CD number two [Music] 01:07:57

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[Music] you 01:08:11

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but you see then once we are up against 01:08:19

but you see then once we are up against 01:08:21

but you see then once we are up against this the possibility that the 01:08:21

this the possibility that the 01:08:25

this the possibility that the distinction between what we do and what 01:08:25

distinction between what we do and what 01:08:30

distinction between what we do and what happens to us is obliterated and 01:08:30

happens to us is obliterated and 01:08:34

happens to us is obliterated and therefore we would say with Hindus and 01:08:34

therefore we would say with Hindus and 01:08:36

therefore we would say with Hindus and Buddhists that if I run into a 01:08:36

Buddhists that if I run into a 01:08:38

Buddhists that if I run into a catastrophe it is my karma you see that 01:08:38

catastrophe it is my karma you see that 01:08:43

catastrophe it is my karma you see that means far more than that it is a 01:08:43

means far more than that it is a 01:08:45

means far more than that it is a punishment for something I did wrong in 01:08:45

punishment for something I did wrong in 01:08:46

punishment for something I did wrong in the past there is a legalistic view of 01:08:46

the past there is a legalistic view of 01:08:49

the past there is a legalistic view of karma but a naturalistic or organic view 01:08:49

karma but a naturalistic or organic view 01:08:52

karma but a naturalistic or organic view of karma is in fact that what happens to 01:08:52

of karma is in fact that what happens to 01:08:55

of karma is in fact that what happens to me is what I do and that in a certain 01:08:55

me is what I do and that in a certain 01:09:01

me is what I do and that in a certain sense 01:09:01

sense 01:09:02

sense I want what happens to me we can use one 01:09:02

I want what happens to me we can use one 01:09:05

I want what happens to me we can use one to notice how we use this word it means 01:09:05

to notice how we use this word it means 01:09:07

to notice how we use this word it means the desire and it means to lack or to 01:09:07

the desire and it means to lack or to 01:09:09

the desire and it means to lack or to need we say to somebody your wanting 01:09:09

need we say to somebody your wanting 01:09:17

need we say to somebody your wanting your deficient in something that you 01:09:17

your deficient in something that you 01:09:19

your deficient in something that you need so it's rather alarming really when 01:09:19

need so it's rather alarming really when 01:09:25

need so it's rather alarming really when you consider it that you always get what 01:09:25

you consider it that you always get what 01:09:28

you consider it that you always get what you want 01:09:28

you want 01:09:30

you want invariably even though you may think 01:09:30

invariably even though you may think 01:09:33

invariably even though you may think that it's entirely opposed to your 01:09:33

that it's entirely opposed to your 01:09:35

that it's entirely opposed to your wishes 01:09:35

wishes 01:09:36

wishes but if it's your karma everything that 01:09:36

but if it's your karma everything that 01:09:39

but if it's your karma everything that happens to you put it in another way 01:09:39

happens to you put it in another way 01:09:41

happens to you put it in another way everything that comes to you is a return 01:09:41

everything that comes to you is a return 01:09:43

everything that comes to you is a return to you of what goes out of you yes 01:09:43

to you of what goes out of you yes 01:09:46

to you of what goes out of you yes obviously that's absurd if you confine 01:09:46

obviously that's absurd if you confine 01:09:51

obviously that's absurd if you confine the definition of yourself to your 01:09:51

the definition of yourself to your 01:09:55

the definition of yourself to your voluntary conscious behavior that's a 01:09:55

voluntary conscious behavior that's a 01:09:59

voluntary conscious behavior that's a ridiculous definition of oneself oneself 01:09:59

ridiculous definition of oneself oneself 01:10:02

ridiculous definition of oneself oneself by any any stretch of the imagination 01:10:02

by any any stretch of the imagination 01:10:04

by any any stretch of the imagination must involve far more than the conscious 01:10:04

must involve far more than the conscious 01:10:08

must involve far more than the conscious and voluntary aspects of our behavior 01:10:08

and voluntary aspects of our behavior 01:10:11

and voluntary aspects of our behavior and if we see that it involves 01:10:11

and if we see that it involves 01:10:15

and if we see that it involves intimately and inescapably the behavior 01:10:15

intimately and inescapably the behavior 01:10:19

intimately and inescapably the behavior of what we call the other the not-self 01:10:19

of what we call the other the not-self 01:10:21

of what we call the other the not-self the environment and see that these two 01:10:22

the environment and see that these two 01:10:24

the environment and see that these two are moving together like the two sides 01:10:24

are moving together like the two sides 01:10:26

are moving together like the two sides of the snake when it swims then you get 01:10:26

of the snake when it swims then you get 01:10:31

of the snake when it swims then you get a very curious feeling 01:10:31

a very curious feeling 01:10:33

a very curious feeling you have to be careful of it if you've 01:10:33

you have to be careful of it if you've 01:10:38

you have to be careful of it if you've got a Western background because and 01:10:38

got a Western background because and 01:10:41

got a Western background because and this is what happens to a lot of people 01:10:41

this is what happens to a lot of people 01:10:42

this is what happens to a lot of people who play around with psychedelic 01:10:42

who play around with psychedelic 01:10:44

who play around with psychedelic chemicals there are many many cases of 01:10:44

chemicals there are many many cases of 01:10:48

chemicals there are many many cases of inflation among these people that is to 01:10:48

inflation among these people that is to 01:10:52

inflation among these people that is to say when you get this sensation that the 01:10:52

say when you get this sensation that the 01:10:56

say when you get this sensation that the two sides of the world the inside and 01:10:56

two sides of the world the inside and 01:10:58

two sides of the world the inside and the outside are moving together you may 01:10:58

the outside are moving together you may 01:11:02

the outside are moving together you may think I am ruling it I am God in the 01:11:02

think I am ruling it I am God in the 01:11:07

think I am ruling it I am God in the Western sense of the word therefore your 01:11:07

Western sense of the word therefore your 01:11:13

Western sense of the word therefore your ego instead of being as it were 01:11:13

ego instead of being as it were 01:11:15

ego instead of being as it were integrated and transcended with all this 01:11:15

integrated and transcended with all this 01:11:18

integrated and transcended with all this process merely assumes vast dimensions 01:11:18

process merely assumes vast dimensions 01:11:23

process merely assumes vast dimensions has megalomania is blown up by the 01:11:23

has megalomania is blown up by the 01:11:26

has megalomania is blown up by the mystical experience and so you get the 01:11:26

mystical experience and so you get the 01:11:29

mystical experience and so you get the holier-than-thou people going around who 01:11:29

holier-than-thou people going around who 01:11:32

holier-than-thou people going around who seem to think that they're above all 01:11:32

seem to think that they're above all 01:11:34

seem to think that they're above all human conventions and have no 01:11:34

human conventions and have no 01:11:37

human conventions and have no obligations to anyone or anything 01:11:37

obligations to anyone or anything 01:11:38

obligations to anyone or anything because they're divine and they can do 01:11:38

because they're divine and they can do 01:11:41

because they're divine and they can do as they damn please what they haven't 01:11:41

as they damn please what they haven't 01:11:45

as they damn please what they haven't realized is that doing as you will isn't 01:11:45

realized is that doing as you will isn't 01:11:55

realized is that doing as you will isn't a new kind of behavior that you suddenly 01:11:55

a new kind of behavior that you suddenly 01:11:59

a new kind of behavior that you suddenly put on and stave from now on I'm going 01:11:59

put on and stave from now on I'm going 01:12:01

put on and stave from now on I'm going to go around doing as I will 01:12:01

to go around doing as I will 01:12:03

to go around doing as I will you have to realize first that that's 01:12:03

you have to realize first that that's 01:12:05

you have to realize first that that's what you've always been doing and you 01:12:05

what you've always been doing and you 01:12:11

what you've always been doing and you could look at this from a very simple 01:12:11

could look at this from a very simple 01:12:13

could look at this from a very simple point of view it's not a complete point 01:12:13

point of view it's not a complete point 01:12:15

point of view it's not a complete point of view but you can say well now what 01:12:15

of view but you can say well now what 01:12:17

of view but you can say well now what about the people who who did good and 01:12:17

about the people who who did good and 01:12:19

about the people who who did good and who did the things that they didn't want 01:12:19

who did the things that they didn't want 01:12:21

who did the things that they didn't want to do you know everybody's mother said 01:12:21

to do you know everybody's mother said 01:12:23

to do you know everybody's mother said to his darling sometimes we have to do 01:12:23

to his darling sometimes we have to do 01:12:24

to his darling sometimes we have to do things we don't like what about that 01:12:24

things we don't like what about that 01:12:28

things we don't like what about that well you can always say the kid obeyed 01:12:28

well you can always say the kid obeyed 01:12:31

well you can always say the kid obeyed the mother and did the thing that it 01:12:31

the mother and did the thing that it 01:12:32

the mother and did the thing that it didn't like because that was the better 01:12:32

didn't like because that was the better 01:12:34

didn't like because that was the better part of wisdom in other words if he'd 01:12:34

part of wisdom in other words if he'd 01:12:36

part of wisdom in other words if he'd hadn't done that something worse would 01:12:36

hadn't done that something worse would 01:12:38

hadn't done that something worse would have happened and we choose the lesser 01:12:38

have happened and we choose the lesser 01:12:40

have happened and we choose the lesser of two evils and when you find yourself 01:12:40

of two evils and when you find yourself 01:12:43

of two evils and when you find yourself in a situation where you have to 01:12:43

in a situation where you have to 01:12:45

in a situation where you have to choose the lesser of two evils then you 01:12:45

choose the lesser of two evils then you 01:12:48

choose the lesser of two evils then you say I want out of here 01:12:48

say I want out of here 01:12:50

say I want out of here and you take the easiest way you take 01:12:50

and you take the easiest way you take 01:12:51

and you take the easiest way you take the line of least resistance so that's 01:12:51

the line of least resistance so that's 01:12:54

the line of least resistance so that's your doing now you you can pursue that 01:12:54

your doing now you you can pursue that 01:12:59

your doing now you you can pursue that more profoundly when you stop thinking 01:12:59

more profoundly when you stop thinking 01:13:02

more profoundly when you stop thinking about human behavior as something that 01:13:02

about human behavior as something that 01:13:06

about human behavior as something that responds to the compulsion of an 01:13:06

responds to the compulsion of an 01:13:09

responds to the compulsion of an environment and you can get out of that 01:13:09

environment and you can get out of that 01:13:12

environment and you can get out of that when you see the behavior of the 01:13:12

when you see the behavior of the 01:13:14

when you see the behavior of the environment as an essential aspect of 01:13:14

environment as an essential aspect of 01:13:17

environment as an essential aspect of you so it isn't as it were the 01:13:17

you so it isn't as it were the 01:13:21

you so it isn't as it were the environment starting something which you 01:13:21

environment starting something which you 01:13:23

environment starting something which you are therefore compelled to follow it's 01:13:23

are therefore compelled to follow it's 01:13:30

are therefore compelled to follow it's the whole system moving together so then 01:13:30

the whole system moving together so then 01:13:35

the whole system moving together so then you get in the state of liberated or 01:13:35

you get in the state of liberated or 01:13:37

you get in the state of liberated or mystical consciousness you very often 01:13:37

mystical consciousness you very often 01:13:39

mystical consciousness you very often feel that a hill is lifting you up as 01:13:39

feel that a hill is lifting you up as 01:13:41

feel that a hill is lifting you up as you walk up it the ground seems to heave 01:13:41

you walk up it the ground seems to heave 01:13:45

you walk up it the ground seems to heave beneath your feet and up you go and you 01:13:45

beneath your feet and up you go and you 01:13:50

beneath your feet and up you go and you get this strange feeling of lightness of 01:13:50

get this strange feeling of lightness of 01:13:51

get this strange feeling of lightness of effortlessness walking on air and ever 01:13:51

effortlessness walking on air and ever 01:13:54

effortlessness walking on air and ever occur you know this wonderful sense that 01:13:54

occur you know this wonderful sense that 01:13:57

occur you know this wonderful sense that there are no obstructions anywhere 01:13:57

there are no obstructions anywhere 01:13:58

there are no obstructions anywhere there's nothing as it were banging you 01:13:58

there's nothing as it were banging you 01:14:00

there's nothing as it were banging you and making you do that it all flows 01:14:00

and making you do that it all flows 01:14:03

and making you do that it all flows together and that's a very common sense 01:14:03

together and that's a very common sense 01:14:05

together and that's a very common sense that's you are actually in that state of 01:14:05

that's you are actually in that state of 01:14:09

that's you are actually in that state of consciousness you are perceiving the 01:14:09

consciousness you are perceiving the 01:14:11

consciousness you are perceiving the goings-on the DAO the course of nature 01:14:11

goings-on the DAO the course of nature 01:14:14

goings-on the DAO the course of nature in the way it's happening but in the 01:14:14

in the way it's happening but in the 01:14:17

in the way it's happening but in the ordinary way you've been conditioned to 01:14:17

ordinary way you've been conditioned to 01:14:19

ordinary way you've been conditioned to resist it to fight it and to use those 01:14:19

resist it to fight it and to use those 01:14:22

resist it to fight it and to use those sensations of resistance 01:14:22

sensations of resistance 01:14:23

sensations of resistance to create a sensory basis for what you 01:14:23

to create a sensory basis for what you 01:14:28

to create a sensory basis for what you describe as the ego the ego in practice 01:14:28

describe as the ego the ego in practice 01:14:32

describe as the ego the ego in practice is a sense of strain when you are aware 01:14:32

is a sense of strain when you are aware 01:14:35

is a sense of strain when you are aware of I you are aware of a disc basic 01:14:35

of I you are aware of a disc basic 01:14:38

of I you are aware of a disc basic discomfort which is located basically 01:14:38

discomfort which is located basically 01:14:42

discomfort which is located basically between the eyes somewhere in here a 01:14:42

between the eyes somewhere in here a 01:14:46

between the eyes somewhere in here a sort of tightness also it's in other 01:14:46

sort of tightness also it's in other 01:14:50

sort of tightness also it's in other centers to its own in the solar plexus 01:14:50

centers to its own in the solar plexus 01:14:52

centers to its own in the solar plexus and there are various physical centers 01:14:52

and there are various physical centers 01:14:57

and there are various physical centers in other words where this 01:14:57

in other words where this 01:14:59

in other words where this constant tension or resistance against 01:14:59

constant tension or resistance against 01:15:02

constant tension or resistance against it is going on and that's what you feel 01:15:02

it is going on and that's what you feel 01:15:06

it is going on and that's what you feel when you talk about I when that tension 01:15:06

when you talk about I when that tension 01:15:11

when you talk about I when that tension ceases you discover immediately that the 01:15:11

ceases you discover immediately that the 01:15:16

ceases you discover immediately that the separate ego has disappeared and that 01:15:16

separate ego has disappeared and that 01:15:19

separate ego has disappeared and that what I refers to is simply the total 01:15:19

what I refers to is simply the total 01:15:22

what I refers to is simply the total panorama of experience everything that's 01:15:23

panorama of experience everything that's 01:15:25

panorama of experience everything that's happening that's I and I'm not obviously 01:15:25

happening that's I and I'm not obviously 01:15:28

happening that's I and I'm not obviously I don't know all of it because I can't 01:15:28

I don't know all of it because I can't 01:15:30

I don't know all of it because I can't inspect all of it with my radar with my 01:15:30

inspect all of it with my radar with my 01:15:32

inspect all of it with my radar with my conscious attention that would be a 01:15:32

conscious attention that would be a 01:15:35

conscious attention that would be a ridiculous undertaking to know 01:15:35

ridiculous undertaking to know 01:15:37

ridiculous undertaking to know everything in that sense we know it in a 01:15:37

everything in that sense we know it in a 01:15:40

everything in that sense we know it in a much better way as we know how to grow 01:15:41

much better way as we know how to grow 01:15:44

much better way as we know how to grow hair and open and close our hands so 01:15:44

hair and open and close our hands so 01:15:49

hair and open and close our hands so this point of view can be understood if 01:15:49

this point of view can be understood if 01:15:52

this point of view can be understood if we clarify the initial problems we have 01:15:52

we clarify the initial problems we have 01:15:55

we clarify the initial problems we have about it and I suppose the first problem 01:15:55

about it and I suppose the first problem 01:15:59

about it and I suppose the first problem is if we accept the notion that 01:15:59

is if we accept the notion that 01:16:02

is if we accept the notion that everything that happens to us is our own 01:16:02

everything that happens to us is our own 01:16:04

everything that happens to us is our own Karma our own doing then we have to be 01:16:04

Karma our own doing then we have to be 01:16:08

Karma our own doing then we have to be very careful of shall we say the devil 01:16:08

very careful of shall we say the devil 01:16:10

very careful of shall we say the devil of omnipotence of inflation of feeling 01:16:10

of omnipotence of inflation of feeling 01:16:17

of omnipotence of inflation of feeling that your ego is what is in control of 01:16:17

that your ego is what is in control of 01:16:19

that your ego is what is in control of all this and the second thing is if you 01:16:19

all this and the second thing is if you 01:16:22

all this and the second thing is if you think then that everything that happens 01:16:22

think then that everything that happens 01:16:24

think then that everything that happens to everybody is what they really want to 01:16:24

to everybody is what they really want to 01:16:26

to everybody is what they really want to happen then you can absolve yourself 01:16:26

happen then you can absolve yourself 01:16:28

happen then you can absolve yourself from any qualms about being unkind to 01:16:28

from any qualms about being unkind to 01:16:30

from any qualms about being unkind to someone because you could say well the 01:16:30

someone because you could say well the 01:16:33

someone because you could say well the unkindness I did you was what you really 01:16:33

unkindness I did you was what you really 01:16:34

unkindness I did you was what you really wanted wasn't it you know that business 01:16:34

wanted wasn't it you know that business 01:16:38

wanted wasn't it you know that business about the responsibility of the person 01:16:38

about the responsibility of the person 01:16:42

about the responsibility of the person who gets murdered for getting murdered 01:16:42

who gets murdered for getting murdered 01:16:45

who gets murdered for getting murdered there is a curious sense in which a lot 01:16:45

there is a curious sense in which a lot 01:16:48

there is a curious sense in which a lot of people go around looking for trouble 01:16:48

of people go around looking for trouble 01:16:50

of people go around looking for trouble Freud powerpoints have pointed out quite 01:16:50

Freud powerpoints have pointed out quite 01:16:53

Freud powerpoints have pointed out quite correctly the psychology of 01:16:53

correctly the psychology of 01:16:55

correctly the psychology of accident-prone individuals they seem to 01:16:55

accident-prone individuals they seem to 01:16:59

accident-prone individuals they seem to be attracting trouble like lights 01:16:59

be attracting trouble like lights 01:17:02

be attracting trouble like lights attract moths and we're all doing that 01:17:02

attract moths and we're all doing that 01:17:10

attract moths and we're all doing that but we 01:17:10

but we 01:17:11

but we managed to remain unconscious of it so 01:17:11

managed to remain unconscious of it so 01:17:16

managed to remain unconscious of it so that we can praise and blame and play 01:17:16

that we can praise and blame and play 01:17:20

that we can praise and blame and play the game which says that's not my fault 01:17:20

the game which says that's not my fault 01:17:23

the game which says that's not my fault that's your fault and so we go around 01:17:23

that's your fault and so we go around 01:17:28

that's your fault and so we go around apportioning faults to everybody because 01:17:28

apportioning faults to everybody because 01:17:31

apportioning faults to everybody because if we're going to apportion praise for 01:17:31

if we're going to apportion praise for 01:17:33

if we're going to apportion praise for what the good things people do you can't 01:17:33

what the good things people do you can't 01:17:35

what the good things people do you can't make praise mean anything unless you 01:17:35

make praise mean anything unless you 01:17:37

make praise mean anything unless you also go around blaming praise and blame 01:17:37

also go around blaming praise and blame 01:17:41

also go around blaming praise and blame go together 01:17:41

go together 01:17:42

go together supposing everybody was acting in a 01:17:42

supposing everybody was acting in a 01:17:44

supposing everybody was acting in a praiseworthy way and we praised 01:17:44

praiseworthy way and we praised 01:17:47

praiseworthy way and we praised everybody for everything they'd get 01:17:47

everybody for everything they'd get 01:17:49

everybody for everything they'd get tired of it 01:17:49

tired of it 01:17:49

tired of it they wouldn't even notice it anymore so 01:17:49

they wouldn't even notice it anymore so 01:17:53

they wouldn't even notice it anymore so so long as you're going to get a kick 01:17:53

so long as you're going to get a kick 01:17:55

so long as you're going to get a kick out of being praised you've got to go 01:17:55

out of being praised you've got to go 01:17:57

out of being praised you've got to go around blaming too it's very simple but 01:17:57

around blaming too it's very simple but 01:18:01

around blaming too it's very simple but if you see the folly of that that 01:18:01

if you see the folly of that that 01:18:03

if you see the folly of that that praising and blaming are just creating 01:18:03

praising and blaming are just creating 01:18:07

praising and blaming are just creating each other then you don't praise and you 01:18:07

each other then you don't praise and you 01:18:11

each other then you don't praise and you don't blame you just dig the whole thing 01:18:11

don't blame you just dig the whole thing 01:18:15

don't blame you just dig the whole thing and that's why when we encounter very 01:18:15

and that's why when we encounter very 01:18:20

and that's why when we encounter very great sages you never hear them blame 01:18:20

great sages you never hear them blame 01:18:24

great sages you never hear them blame people and they very rarely praise 01:18:24

people and they very rarely praise 01:18:25

people and they very rarely praise anyone you try to start gossip in the 01:18:25

anyone you try to start gossip in the 01:18:32

anyone you try to start gossip in the presence of such a person and you make a 01:18:32

presence of such a person and you make a 01:18:35

presence of such a person and you make a derogatory comment about someone it's as 01:18:35

derogatory comment about someone it's as 01:18:39

derogatory comment about someone it's as if you had thrown a rock into a well and 01:18:39

if you had thrown a rock into a well and 01:18:41

if you had thrown a rock into a well and heard no splash and a funny feeling 01:18:41

heard no splash and a funny feeling 01:18:45

heard no splash and a funny feeling because that you get no response you get 01:18:45

because that you get no response you get 01:18:49

because that you get no response you get no agreement and if you praise somebody 01:18:49

no agreement and if you praise somebody 01:18:55

no agreement and if you praise somebody there's also likely nothing to be said 01:18:55

there's also likely nothing to be said 01:18:58

there's also likely nothing to be said except perhaps some remark that of 01:18:58

except perhaps some remark that of 01:19:03

except perhaps some remark that of course you're praising the beloved in 01:19:03

course you're praising the beloved in 01:19:06

course you're praising the beloved in all its manifestations and this this 01:19:06

all its manifestations and this this 01:19:12

all its manifestations and this this disconcerts some people terribly I've 01:19:12

disconcerts some people terribly I've 01:19:15

disconcerts some people terribly I've always noticed that real sages never 01:19:15

always noticed that real sages never 01:19:16

always noticed that real sages never gossip never criticize persons and 01:19:16

01:19:24

because they understand so well 01:19:24

because they understand so well 01:19:27

because they understand so well the French saying to compensate to 01:19:27

the French saying to compensate to 01:19:32

the French saying to compensate to Pagani to understand all is to forgive 01:19:32

Pagani to understand all is to forgive 01:19:35

Pagani to understand all is to forgive all is so true if you are experienced in 01:19:35

all is so true if you are experienced in 01:19:40

all is so true if you are experienced in just the ordinary way of dealing with 01:19:40

just the ordinary way of dealing with 01:19:42

just the ordinary way of dealing with human problems if you've been a 01:19:42

human problems if you've been a 01:19:46

human problems if you've been a counselor or psychotherapist or minister 01:19:46

counselor or psychotherapist or minister 01:19:48

counselor or psychotherapist or minister or anything like that you very soon get 01:19:48

or anything like that you very soon get 01:19:51

or anything like that you very soon get to realize how vastly complicated people 01:19:51

to realize how vastly complicated people 01:19:55

to realize how vastly complicated people are and to see that they really are in 01:19:55

are and to see that they really are in 01:20:02

are and to see that they really are in the message they're in not because of 01:20:02

the message they're in not because of 01:20:04

the message they're in not because of anything but that's the way it is and 01:20:04

anything but that's the way it is and 01:20:10

anything but that's the way it is and you stop blaming people and because you 01:20:10

you stop blaming people and because you 01:20:14

you stop blaming people and because you don't blame people you have open ears 01:20:14

don't blame people you have open ears 01:20:16

don't blame people you have open ears and people come and seek your advice 01:20:16

and people come and seek your advice 01:20:19

and people come and seek your advice they don't want to come to someone who's 01:20:19

they don't want to come to someone who's 01:20:21

they don't want to come to someone who's a counselor who will ball them out 01:20:21

01:20:26

it's like dentists who simply accept the 01:20:26

it's like dentists who simply accept the 01:20:29

it's like dentists who simply accept the fact that people really don't take care 01:20:29

fact that people really don't take care 01:20:31

fact that people really don't take care of their teeth and realize that the job 01:20:31

of their teeth and realize that the job 01:20:33

of their teeth and realize that the job of a dentist is precisely to look after 01:20:33

of a dentist is precisely to look after 01:20:35

of a dentist is precisely to look after people who can't be bothered to take 01:20:35

people who can't be bothered to take 01:20:36

people who can't be bothered to take care of their teeth that's why he's in 01:20:36

care of their teeth that's why he's in 01:20:38

care of their teeth that's why he's in business so a good dentist doesn't bawl 01:20:38

business so a good dentist doesn't bawl 01:20:41

business so a good dentist doesn't bawl his patients out because they didn't do 01:20:41

his patients out because they didn't do 01:20:42

his patients out because they didn't do this that and the other 01:20:42

this that and the other 01:20:43

this that and the other just accept it same with doctors they 01:20:43

just accept it same with doctors they 01:20:46

just accept it same with doctors they know perfectly well that nobody's going 01:20:46

know perfectly well that nobody's going 01:20:47

know perfectly well that nobody's going to live by the rules of health and 01:20:47

to live by the rules of health and 01:20:49

to live by the rules of health and they're very vague as to what they are 01:20:49

they're very vague as to what they are 01:20:52

they're very vague as to what they are [Laughter] 01:20:52

[Laughter] 01:20:54

[Laughter] there's every kind of theory about how 01:20:54

there's every kind of theory about how 01:20:58

there's every kind of theory about how you ought to live and what is healthy 01:20:58

you ought to live and what is healthy 01:21:00

you ought to live and what is healthy but they've change in fashion and you 01:21:00

but they've change in fashion and you 01:21:03

but they've change in fashion and you ought to eat this kind of diet in 1921 01:21:03

ought to eat this kind of diet in 1921 01:21:06

ought to eat this kind of diet in 1921 when either time it's 1930 they've 01:21:06

when either time it's 1930 they've 01:21:08

when either time it's 1930 they've changed their ideas altogether and by 01:21:08

changed their ideas altogether and by 01:21:10

changed their ideas altogether and by the time it's 1960 it's back again to a 01:21:10

the time it's 1960 it's back again to a 01:21:12

the time it's 1960 it's back again to a mixture between 1921 and 1894 something 01:21:12

mixture between 1921 and 1894 something 01:21:15

mixture between 1921 and 1894 something like that you see it's always changing 01:21:15

like that you see it's always changing 01:21:17

like that you see it's always changing so while the rules that then are not so 01:21:17

so while the rules that then are not so 01:21:22

so while the rules that then are not so you see if they were all absurd it would 01:21:22

you see if they were all absurd it would 01:21:25

you see if they were all absurd it would be easy but they're not all absurd 01:21:25

be easy but they're not all absurd 01:21:28

be easy but they're not all absurd there's some truth in it always but 01:21:28

there's some truth in it always but 01:21:31

there's some truth in it always but nobody's ever quite sure so the function 01:21:31

nobody's ever quite sure so the function 01:21:34

nobody's ever quite sure so the function of healers and doctors and so on is just 01:21:34

of healers and doctors and so on is just 01:21:37

of healers and doctors and so on is just to do what can be done to stop the mess 01:21:37

to do what can be done to stop the mess 01:21:40

to do what can be done to stop the mess getting too messy and they must accept 01:21:40

getting too messy and they must accept 01:21:42

getting too messy and they must accept it as that that's their job 01:21:42

it as that that's their job 01:21:44

it as that that's their job if I were healthy say to the doctor I 01:21:44

if I were healthy say to the doctor I 01:21:49

if I were healthy say to the doctor I wouldn't need you so you're in business 01:21:49

01:21:56

now what about it then we have 01:21:56

now what about it then we have 01:22:04

now what about it then we have difficulty in seeing this mutuality of 01:22:04

difficulty in seeing this mutuality of 01:22:08

difficulty in seeing this mutuality of our relationship to the rest of the 01:22:08

our relationship to the rest of the 01:22:10

our relationship to the rest of the world because it's contrary to common 01:22:10

world because it's contrary to common 01:22:16

world because it's contrary to common sense contrary to the way we've been 01:22:16

sense contrary to the way we've been 01:22:20

sense contrary to the way we've been brought up and therefore we have out 01:22:20

brought up and therefore we have out 01:22:24

brought up and therefore we have out what I would call an initial 01:22:24

what I would call an initial 01:22:26

what I would call an initial intellectual block to understanding it 01:22:26

intellectual block to understanding it 01:22:29

intellectual block to understanding it quite apart from any emotional blocks or 01:22:29

quite apart from any emotional blocks or 01:22:31

quite apart from any emotional blocks or anything of that kind but obviously we 01:22:31

anything of that kind but obviously we 01:22:38

anything of that kind but obviously we must overcome that intellectual block if 01:22:38

must overcome that intellectual block if 01:22:41

must overcome that intellectual block if we're going to go any further and 01:22:41

we're going to go any further and 01:22:43

we're going to go any further and actually realize and feel this way of 01:22:43

actually realize and feel this way of 01:22:49

actually realize and feel this way of life's working in this relationship 01:22:49

life's working in this relationship 01:22:51

life's working in this relationship between what you do and what happens to 01:22:51

between what you do and what happens to 01:22:54

between what you do and what happens to you then the question arises then what 01:22:54

you then the question arises then what 01:23:03

you then the question arises then what do I do 01:23:03

01:23:06

do I go around saying to myself all this 01:23:06

do I go around saying to myself all this 01:23:11

do I go around saying to myself all this that's happening to you is what I wanted 01:23:11

that's happening to you is what I wanted 01:23:13

that's happening to you is what I wanted I am inside and outside 01:23:13

I am inside and outside 01:23:17

I am inside and outside I am the subjective and I am the 01:23:17

I am the subjective and I am the 01:23:19

I am the subjective and I am the objective Edie I mean to go around 01:23:19

objective Edie I mean to go around 01:23:21

objective Edie I mean to go around thinking thoughts about this so as if 01:23:21

thinking thoughts about this so as if 01:23:23

thinking thoughts about this so as if were to talk yourself into this way of 01:23:23

were to talk yourself into this way of 01:23:25

were to talk yourself into this way of feeling oh that's very superficial 01:23:25

feeling oh that's very superficial 01:23:32

feeling oh that's very superficial because this new sense of relationship 01:23:32

because this new sense of relationship 01:23:36

because this new sense of relationship to nature is something much more than an 01:23:36

to nature is something much more than an 01:23:39

to nature is something much more than an idea see ecologists and physicists have 01:23:39

idea see ecologists and physicists have 01:23:43

idea see ecologists and physicists have the idea that this is so but they mostly 01:23:43

the idea that this is so but they mostly 01:23:46

the idea that this is so but they mostly in their private life and in their 01:23:46

in their private life and in their 01:23:48

in their private life and in their ordinary human behavior and just like 01:23:48

ordinary human behavior and just like 01:23:50

ordinary human behavior and just like other 01:23:50

other 01:23:50

other people who don't feel it and who feel 01:23:50

people who don't feel it and who feel 01:23:53

people who don't feel it and who feel themselves in a Newtonian billiards game 01:23:53

themselves in a Newtonian billiards game 01:23:56

themselves in a Newtonian billiards game even though they've gone on to quantum 01:23:56

even though they've gone on to quantum 01:23:58

even though they've gone on to quantum mechanics so that there may be a 01:23:58

mechanics so that there may be a 01:24:03

mechanics so that there may be a transition from our ordinary way our 01:24:03

transition from our ordinary way our 01:24:06

transition from our ordinary way our feeling how things go on to the new way 01:24:06

feeling how things go on to the new way 01:24:11

feeling how things go on to the new way we have to do something other than think 01:24:11

we have to do something other than think 01:24:14

we have to do something other than think because actually thinking is causing the 01:24:14

because actually thinking is causing the 01:24:17

because actually thinking is causing the trouble 01:24:17

trouble 01:24:17

trouble it is by thinking that we divide the 01:24:17

it is by thinking that we divide the 01:24:20

it is by thinking that we divide the world into separate events and separate 01:24:20

world into separate events and separate 01:24:22

world into separate events and separate things that is calculus and under 01:24:22

things that is calculus and under 01:24:28

things that is calculus and under Kumaraswamy once described the life of 01:24:28

Kumaraswamy once described the life of 01:24:30

Kumaraswamy once described the life of the liberated being as a perpetual 01:24:30

the liberated being as a perpetual 01:24:36

the liberated being as a perpetual uncalculated life in the present and you 01:24:36

uncalculated life in the present and you 01:24:43

uncalculated life in the present and you say wow I don't think I could do that 01:24:43

say wow I don't think I could do that 01:24:47

say wow I don't think I could do that that's saying of Jesus and the Sermon on 01:24:47

that's saying of Jesus and the Sermon on 01:24:50

that's saying of Jesus and the Sermon on the Mount I'll be not anxious for the 01:24:50

the Mount I'll be not anxious for the 01:24:53

the Mount I'll be not anxious for the morrow the uncalculated life if God so 01:24:53

morrow the uncalculated life if God so 01:24:58

morrow the uncalculated life if God so clothe the grass of the field will he 01:24:58

clothe the grass of the field will he 01:25:01

clothe the grass of the field will he not much more clothe you 01:25:01

not much more clothe you 01:25:02

not much more clothe you faithless ones and I've never met a 01:25:02

faithless ones and I've never met a 01:25:06

faithless ones and I've never met a preacher yet who would really take that 01:25:06

preacher yet who would really take that 01:25:10

preacher yet who would really take that up they all say well of course that's 01:25:10

up they all say well of course that's 01:25:14

up they all say well of course that's too hard a saying for most of us it's 01:25:14

too hard a saying for most of us it's 01:25:18

too hard a saying for most of us it's not practical everybody has to take 01:25:18

not practical everybody has to take 01:25:21

not practical everybody has to take thought for tomorrow and calculate well 01:25:21

thought for tomorrow and calculate well 01:25:29

thought for tomorrow and calculate well at this point 01:25:29

01:25:35

people can go in two directions there's 01:25:35

people can go in two directions there's 01:25:39

people can go in two directions there's one class of people who will say all 01:25:39

one class of people who will say all 01:25:40

one class of people who will say all right let's live the uncalculated life 01:25:40

right let's live the uncalculated life 01:25:43

right let's live the uncalculated life let's not make any plans and before you 01:25:43

let's not make any plans and before you 01:25:48

let's not make any plans and before you know where they are they're living a 01:25:48

know where they are they're living a 01:25:49

know where they are they're living a filthy pair and scrounging around and 01:25:49

filthy pair and scrounging around and 01:25:54

filthy pair and scrounging around and living on petty thievery and so on this 01:25:54

living on petty thievery and so on this 01:25:56

living on petty thievery and so on this is the usual thing this has got into it 01:25:56

is the usual thing this has got into it 01:26:00

is the usual thing this has got into it the wrong way the first thing to do is 01:26:00

the wrong way the first thing to do is 01:26:08

the wrong way the first thing to do is just as I said whether you like it or 01:26:08

just as I said whether you like it or 01:26:16

just as I said whether you like it or not and whether you know it or not the 01:26:16

not and whether you know it or not the 01:26:20

not and whether you know it or not the relationship between you and the 01:26:20

relationship between you and the 01:26:21

relationship between you and the environment is always one that is 01:26:21

environment is always one that is 01:26:23

environment is always one that is harmonious so in the same way you are 01:26:23

harmonious so in the same way you are 01:26:27

harmonious so in the same way you are always living the uncalculated life you 01:26:27

always living the uncalculated life you 01:26:30

always living the uncalculated life you have to find out first of all that 01:26:30

have to find out first of all that 01:26:31

have to find out first of all that you're always doing it and that what you 01:26:31

you're always doing it and that what you 01:26:35

you're always doing it and that what you call your calculations and the things 01:26:35

call your calculations and the things 01:26:38

call your calculations and the things you did were funny little 01:26:38

you did were funny little 01:26:45

you did were funny little rationalizations in other words your ego 01:26:45

rationalizations in other words your ego 01:26:55

rationalizations in other words your ego has about as much control over what goes 01:26:55

has about as much control over what goes 01:26:58

has about as much control over what goes on as a child sitting next to its father 01:26:58

on as a child sitting next to its father 01:27:00

on as a child sitting next to its father in a car with a plastic steering wheel 01:27:00

in a car with a plastic steering wheel 01:27:03

in a car with a plastic steering wheel that is turning the car the way daddy 01:27:03

that is turning the car the way daddy 01:27:06

that is turning the car the way daddy drives it because as I pointed out most 01:27:06

drives it because as I pointed out most 01:27:12

drives it because as I pointed out most of the functions most of the goings on 01:27:12

of the functions most of the goings on 01:27:14

of the functions most of the goings on in you around you the circumstances of 01:27:14

in you around you the circumstances of 01:27:17

in you around you the circumstances of life have nothing to do with your ego at 01:27:17

life have nothing to do with your ego at 01:27:19

life have nothing to do with your ego at all and you don't even know why you make 01:27:19

all and you don't even know why you make 01:27:23

all and you don't even know why you make up your mind to do certain things we 01:27:23

up your mind to do certain things we 01:27:27

up your mind to do certain things we know superficially we were few ideas 01:27:27

know superficially we were few ideas 01:27:30

know superficially we were few ideas it's like when you were enter into a 01:27:30

it's like when you were enter into a 01:27:34

it's like when you were enter into a marriage you have really no control over 01:27:34

marriage you have really no control over 01:27:37

marriage you have really no control over its outcome in the ordinary sense of ego 01:27:37

its outcome in the ordinary sense of ego 01:27:40

its outcome in the ordinary sense of ego control you've taken a colossal gamble 01:27:40

control you've taken a colossal gamble 01:27:44

control you've taken a colossal gamble in which you've involved 01:27:44

in which you've involved 01:27:47

in which you've involved enormous complexes of patterns and maybe 01:27:47

enormous complexes of patterns and maybe 01:27:53

enormous complexes of patterns and maybe it'll come out all right if you don't 01:27:53

it'll come out all right if you don't 01:27:55

it'll come out all right if you don't interfere with it too much 01:27:55

01:27:59

you don't slack off in high Merced it's 01:27:59

you don't slack off in high Merced it's 01:28:01

you don't slack off in high Merced it's perfectly obvious that the whole world 01:28:01

perfectly obvious that the whole world 01:28:03

perfectly obvious that the whole world is going to hell and the only possible 01:28:03

is going to hell and the only possible 01:28:05

is going to hell and the only possible way we might stop that happening is and 01:28:05

way we might stop that happening is and 01:28:08

way we might stop that happening is and not to try to prevent it you know all 01:28:08

not to try to prevent it you know all 01:28:12

not to try to prevent it you know all these wars are started out by people who 01:28:12

these wars are started out by people who 01:28:14

these wars are started out by people who think that they're helping someone but 01:28:14

think that they're helping someone but 01:28:18

think that they're helping someone but it's gonna make things better so when 01:28:18

it's gonna make things better so when 01:28:25

it's gonna make things better so when you begin from the basis not off saying 01:28:25

you begin from the basis not off saying 01:28:28

you begin from the basis not off saying I should now live the spontaneous and 01:28:28

I should now live the spontaneous and 01:28:31

I should now live the spontaneous and improvident and non calculating style of 01:28:31

improvident and non calculating style of 01:28:35

improvident and non calculating style of life but realize you've always done that 01:28:35

life but realize you've always done that 01:28:40

life but realize you've always done that only you rationalized that you didn't 01:28:40

only you rationalized that you didn't 01:28:43

only you rationalized that you didn't you always did what you wanted to do 01:28:43

01:28:48

basically only you said sometimes it was 01:28:48

basically only you said sometimes it was 01:28:53

basically only you said sometimes it was my duty but you preferred a conception 01:28:53

my duty but you preferred a conception 01:28:58

my duty but you preferred a conception of yourself as someone who always does 01:28:58

of yourself as someone who always does 01:29:00

of yourself as someone who always does his duty that flattered you and so you 01:29:00

his duty that flattered you and so you 01:29:06

his duty that flattered you and so you were still following your own way now 01:29:06

were still following your own way now 01:29:10

were still following your own way now the first thing then is to see that 01:29:10

the first thing then is to see that 01:29:12

the first thing then is to see that that's what's happening so that you 01:29:12

that's what's happening so that you 01:29:16

that's what's happening so that you don't think well now there is some 01:29:16

don't think well now there is some 01:29:19

don't think well now there is some special thing I have to do to understand 01:29:19

special thing I have to do to understand 01:29:21

special thing I have to do to understand this harmonious relationship between the 01:29:21

this harmonious relationship between the 01:29:25

this harmonious relationship between the individual in the world because if you 01:29:25

individual in the world because if you 01:29:29

individual in the world because if you work on it that way you will start from 01:29:29

work on it that way you will start from 01:29:32

work on it that way you will start from the presupposition that that 01:29:32

the presupposition that that 01:29:33

the presupposition that that relationship doesn't already exist and 01:29:33

relationship doesn't already exist and 01:29:35

relationship doesn't already exist and has to be brought into being thing is it 01:29:35

has to be brought into being thing is it 01:29:39

has to be brought into being thing is it doesn't have to be brought into being 01:29:39

doesn't have to be brought into being 01:29:40

doesn't have to be brought into being it's there but now when you see that 01:29:40

it's there but now when you see that 01:29:43

it's there but now when you see that that's so it obviously starts to make a 01:29:43

that's so it obviously starts to make a 01:29:47

that's so it obviously starts to make a difference you do behave in a different 01:29:47

difference you do behave in a different 01:29:52

difference you do behave in a different way but the behavior the new kind of 01:29:52

way but the behavior the new kind of 01:29:57

way but the behavior the new kind of behavior that is a result of a 01:29:57

behavior that is a result of a 01:29:59

behavior that is a result of a transformation 01:29:59

transformation 01:30:00

transformation is not forced behavior when you try to 01:30:00

is not forced behavior when you try to 01:30:04

is not forced behavior when you try to imitate the way a saint behaves you have 01:30:04

imitate the way a saint behaves you have 01:30:08

imitate the way a saint behaves you have made a forced change and you know all 01:30:08

made a forced change and you know all 01:30:10

made a forced change and you know all forced behavior is phony it's like 01:30:10

forced behavior is phony it's like 01:30:13

forced behavior is phony it's like someone saying I love you I love you I 01:30:13

someone saying I love you I love you I 01:30:15

someone saying I love you I love you I love you when you don't you feel you 01:30:15

love you when you don't you feel you 01:30:17

love you when you don't you feel you ought to but you don't really and 01:30:17

ought to but you don't really and 01:30:19

ought to but you don't really and there's something it doesn't ring true 01:30:19

01:30:25

well think of the poor Lord listening to 01:30:25

well think of the poor Lord listening to 01:30:28

well think of the poor Lord listening to all the prayers of all those people 01:30:28

all the prayers of all those people 01:30:30

all the prayers of all those people saying I love you Jesus and they and he 01:30:30

saying I love you Jesus and they and he 01:30:33

saying I love you Jesus and they and he knows they don't know they're just 01:30:33

knows they don't know they're just 01:30:35

knows they don't know they're just saying this because they think they 01:30:35

saying this because they think they 01:30:36

saying this because they think they ought to and be very trying so whenever 01:30:36

ought to and be very trying so whenever 01:30:48

ought to and be very trying so whenever you do a thing like that you see you 01:30:48

you do a thing like that you see you 01:30:50

you do a thing like that you see you make a forced change now if the change 01:30:50

make a forced change now if the change 01:30:53

make a forced change now if the change is to happen in the same way that a seed 01:30:53

is to happen in the same way that a seed 01:30:56

is to happen in the same way that a seed at proper season breaks open and sends 01:30:56

at proper season breaks open and sends 01:31:00

at proper season breaks open and sends up a chute it comes from the whole force 01:31:00

up a chute it comes from the whole force 01:31:07

up a chute it comes from the whole force of life itself now when you see that 01:31:07

of life itself now when you see that 01:31:10

of life itself now when you see that without your having to do anything 01:31:10

without your having to do anything 01:31:11

without your having to do anything see you are living the uncalculated life 01:31:11

see you are living the uncalculated life 01:31:15

see you are living the uncalculated life and you're only pretending you're 01:31:15

and you're only pretending you're 01:31:17

and you're only pretending you're calculating it and arranging it then as 01:31:17

calculating it and arranging it then as 01:31:20

calculating it and arranging it then as it were you will have a grasp of the 01:31:20

it were you will have a grasp of the 01:31:22

it were you will have a grasp of the total situation and it will you can 01:31:22

total situation and it will you can 01:31:26

total situation and it will you can allow it to produce changes in action 01:31:26

allow it to produce changes in action 01:31:32

allow it to produce changes in action which are not forced so this is why 01:31:32

which are not forced so this is why 01:31:38

which are not forced so this is why there is always a trend in every kind of 01:31:38

there is always a trend in every kind of 01:31:41

there is always a trend in every kind of spiritual doctrine which says something 01:31:41

spiritual doctrine which says something 01:31:45

spiritual doctrine which says something about grace divine grace there must come 01:31:45

about grace divine grace there must come 01:31:49

about grace divine grace there must come about something in you or change which 01:31:49

about something in you or change which 01:31:51

about something in you or change which you can't produce and if you try to 01:31:51

you can't produce and if you try to 01:31:54

you can't produce and if you try to produce it you will be a victim of 01:31:54

produce it you will be a victim of 01:31:56

produce it you will be a victim of spiritual pride but on the other hand 01:31:56

spiritual pride but on the other hand 01:31:59

spiritual pride but on the other hand all teachers are universally saying 01:31:59

all teachers are universally saying 01:32:01

all teachers are universally saying you've got to make an effort there are 01:32:01

you've got to make an effort there are 01:32:04

you've got to make an effort there are some discipline there is some something 01:32:04

some discipline there is some something 01:32:07

some discipline there is some something you must do well that's the only way to 01:32:07

you must do well that's the only way to 01:32:12

you must do well that's the only way to get it across to people 01:32:12

get it across to people 01:32:14

get it across to people that you as a separate effort maker are 01:32:14

that you as a separate effort maker are 01:32:17

that you as a separate effort maker are a myth our a phantasm because if you 01:32:17

a myth our a phantasm because if you 01:32:23

a myth our a phantasm because if you really try to control your mind and only 01:32:23

really try to control your mind and only 01:32:28

really try to control your mind and only think the thoughts that you think of 01:32:28

think the thoughts that you think of 01:32:29

think the thoughts that you think of good thoughts to think you will find 01:32:29

good thoughts to think you will find 01:32:34

good thoughts to think you will find that you're going round in a circle 01:32:34

that you're going round in a circle 01:32:39

that you're going round in a circle Krishnamurti is awfully good at pointing 01:32:39

Krishnamurti is awfully good at pointing 01:32:41

Krishnamurti is awfully good at pointing this out when he people ask him how do 01:32:41

this out when he people ask him how do 01:32:44

this out when he people ask him how do you meditate he says why do you want to 01:32:44

you meditate he says why do you want to 01:32:46

you meditate he says why do you want to meditate 01:32:46

01:32:48

why are you concentrating why you saying 01:32:48

why are you concentrating why you saying 01:32:51

why are you concentrating why you saying prayers why do you think you should 01:32:51

prayers why do you think you should 01:32:53

prayers why do you think you should believe in God and it always comes up 01:32:53

believe in God and it always comes up 01:32:57

believe in God and it always comes up because I'm just a son of a bitch I mean 01:32:57

because I'm just a son of a bitch I mean 01:33:00

because I'm just a son of a bitch I mean I'm up for my own good and this seems to 01:33:00

I'm up for my own good and this seems to 01:33:02

I'm up for my own good and this seems to be the it would be the way so he says 01:33:02

be the it would be the way so he says 01:33:05

be the it would be the way so he says you see you don't have any genuine love 01:33:05

you see you don't have any genuine love 01:33:07

you see you don't have any genuine love at all it's all fake and so you have to 01:33:07

at all it's all fake and so you have to 01:33:11

at all it's all fake and so you have to fight first of all where the genuine 01:33:11

fight first of all where the genuine 01:33:13

fight first of all where the genuine love is now you love you don't you 01:33:13

love is now you love you don't you 01:33:15

love is now you love you don't you that's genuine I won't argue about that 01:33:15

that's genuine I won't argue about that 01:33:21

that's genuine I won't argue about that but then when you start from this I gave 01:33:21

but then when you start from this I gave 01:33:25

but then when you start from this I gave a talk some time ago to room the air 01:33:25

a talk some time ago to room the air 01:33:29

a talk some time ago to room the air force their camera lab where they make 01:33:29

force their camera lab where they make 01:33:35

force their camera lab where they make weapons do all the research and they got 01:33:35

weapons do all the research and they got 01:33:39

weapons do all the research and they got a bunch of us there who were ministers 01:33:39

a bunch of us there who were ministers 01:33:42

a bunch of us there who were ministers and philosophers and they had the nerve 01:33:42

and philosophers and they had the nerve 01:33:44

and philosophers and they had the nerve to ask us what was our basis for moral 01:33:44

to ask us what was our basis for moral 01:33:48

to ask us what was our basis for moral behavior personal moral behavior well I 01:33:48

behavior personal moral behavior well I 01:33:53

behavior personal moral behavior well I said my basis for moral behavior is pure 01:33:53

said my basis for moral behavior is pure 01:33:57

said my basis for moral behavior is pure selfishness and I'm talking after all to 01:33:57

selfishness and I'm talking after all to 01:34:01

selfishness and I'm talking after all to realistic people here and I don't think 01:34:01

realistic people here and I don't think 01:34:03

realistic people here and I don't think we need to be sentimental and beat about 01:34:03

we need to be sentimental and beat about 01:34:05

we need to be sentimental and beat about the bush for all you're all warriors and 01:34:05

the bush for all you're all warriors and 01:34:07

the bush for all you're all warriors and fighters and so on and you know how 01:34:07

fighters and so on and you know how 01:34:09

fighters and so on and you know how rough things are so I'm going to say to 01:34:09

rough things are so I'm going to say to 01:34:12

rough things are so I'm going to say to you frankly I'm out for me but of course 01:34:12

you frankly I'm out for me but of course 01:34:16

you frankly I'm out for me but of course I don't do it in a tactless way I don't 01:34:16

I don't do it in a tactless way I don't 01:34:20

I don't do it in a tactless way I don't go around and hit people over the head 01:34:20

go around and hit people over the head 01:34:21

go around and hit people over the head and say give me this give me that I much 01:34:21

and say give me this give me that I much 01:34:23

and say give me this give me that I much more subtle I say 01:34:23

more subtle I say 01:34:26

more subtle I say good manners and please and how nice you 01:34:26

good manners and please and how nice you 01:34:29

good manners and please and how nice you all are and so on and finally people 01:34:29

all are and so on and finally people 01:34:32

all are and so on and finally people feel massage psychologically in the 01:34:32

feel massage psychologically in the 01:34:35

feel massage psychologically in the state where they'll give but they're not 01:34:35

state where they'll give but they're not 01:34:39

state where they'll give but they're not such after that lives and things that 01:34:39

such after that lives and things that 01:34:41

such after that lives and things that bother me the first one is if I love me 01:34:41

01:34:47

what do I want and furthermore Who am I 01:34:47

what do I want and furthermore Who am I 01:34:54

what do I want and furthermore Who am I because if I'm going to be realistic 01:34:54

because if I'm going to be realistic 01:34:57

because if I'm going to be realistic about getting what I want 01:34:57

about getting what I want 01:34:58

about getting what I want I've got to be pretty sure what it is 01:34:58

I've got to be pretty sure what it is 01:35:00

I've got to be pretty sure what it is that's me and what is the state of 01:35:00

that's me and what is the state of 01:35:01

that's me and what is the state of desire in me if I am desire see if I am 01:35:01

desire in me if I am desire see if I am 01:35:04

desire in me if I am desire see if I am a center of desire what's it all for 01:35:04

a center of desire what's it all for 01:35:07

a center of desire what's it all for well I think of all the things I want 01:35:07

well I think of all the things I want 01:35:11

well I think of all the things I want what it so turns out that none of them 01:35:11

what it so turns out that none of them 01:35:14

what it so turns out that none of them are me if I say I want dinner I don't 01:35:14

are me if I say I want dinner I don't 01:35:19

are me if I say I want dinner I don't mean I'm gonna eat me up if I'm any 01:35:19

mean I'm gonna eat me up if I'm any 01:35:25

mean I'm gonna eat me up if I'm any pleasure I can think of is the enjoyment 01:35:25

pleasure I can think of is the enjoyment 01:35:29

pleasure I can think of is the enjoyment of something that I hadn't thought of 01:35:29

of something that I hadn't thought of 01:35:30

of something that I hadn't thought of defining as myself because I like my 01:35:30

defining as myself because I like my 01:35:34

defining as myself because I like my sensations I like what happens to my 01:35:34

sensations I like what happens to my 01:35:36

sensations I like what happens to my body when I take a fine wine and down it 01:35:36

body when I take a fine wine and down it 01:35:40

body when I take a fine wine and down it but then what's the difference between 01:35:40

but then what's the difference between 01:35:42

but then what's the difference between my body and the wine I say I like the 01:35:42

my body and the wine I say I like the 01:35:45

my body and the wine I say I like the wine I also mean I like me and the wine 01:35:45

wine I also mean I like me and the wine 01:35:51

wine I also mean I like me and the wine together the mixture but then I don't 01:35:51

together the mixture but then I don't 01:35:56

together the mixture but then I don't eat you or a friend or a lover in the 01:35:56

eat you or a friend or a lover in the 01:36:00

eat you or a friend or a lover in the same way as I drink wine 01:36:00

same way as I drink wine 01:36:01

same way as I drink wine I live in association and like this but 01:36:01

I live in association and like this but 01:36:07

I live in association and like this but then I'm loving things that aren't 01:36:07

then I'm loving things that aren't 01:36:08

then I'm loving things that aren't formally supposed to be me and as I go 01:36:08

formally supposed to be me and as I go 01:36:12

formally supposed to be me and as I go into it in other words as I investigate 01:36:12

into it in other words as I investigate 01:36:14

into it in other words as I investigate what I mean by me I find that I can't 01:36:14

what I mean by me I find that I can't 01:36:18

what I mean by me I find that I can't put any limits on it that I cannot 01:36:18

put any limits on it that I cannot 01:36:22

put any limits on it that I cannot experience me without you or without the 01:36:22

experience me without you or without the 01:36:26

experience me without you or without the other 01:36:26

other 01:36:27

other they're inseparable but you don't find 01:36:27

they're inseparable but you don't find 01:36:30

they're inseparable but you don't find this out until you investigate it until 01:36:30

this out until you investigate it until 01:36:33

this out until you investigate it until you really go into the question what do 01:36:33

you really go into the question what do 01:36:35

you really go into the question what do I want and that's the most important 01:36:35

I want and that's the most important 01:36:38

I want and that's the most important investigation anyone can make which I'm 01:36:38

investigation anyone can make which I'm 01:36:42

investigation anyone can make which I'm going to into in the next session the 01:36:42

going to into in the next session the 01:36:45

going to into in the next session the question of power and all these military 01:36:45

question of power and all these military 01:36:49

question of power and all these military men you think they're they think they 01:36:49

men you think they're they think they 01:36:51

men you think they're they think they want power and so I said to them some 01:36:51

want power and so I said to them some 01:36:56

want power and so I said to them some very subversive and undermining things 01:36:56

very subversive and undermining things 01:36:58

very subversive and undermining things without anybody knowing it until long 01:36:58

without anybody knowing it until long 01:37:00

without anybody knowing it until long after I'd left this concludes session 01:37:00

after I'd left this concludes session 01:37:15

after I'd left this concludes session one of do you do it or does it do you 01:37:15

one of do you do it or does it do you 01:37:17

one of do you do it or does it do you with Alan Watts our program continues 01:37:17

with Alan Watts our program continues 01:37:20

with Alan Watts our program continues with session two 01:37:20

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[Music] 01:37:24

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curious that a cardinal feature of the 01:37:37

curious that a cardinal feature of the 01:37:43

curious that a cardinal feature of the Buddha's doctrine is that craving is the 01:37:43

Buddha's doctrine is that craving is the 01:37:49

Buddha's doctrine is that craving is the root of suffering but craving going 01:37:49

root of suffering but craving going 01:37:54

root of suffering but craving going further back to another route which is 01:37:54

further back to another route which is 01:37:55

further back to another route which is ignorance avidya in sanskrit means lack 01:37:56

ignorance avidya in sanskrit means lack 01:38:00

ignorance avidya in sanskrit means lack of vision video in latin is IC and 01:38:00

of vision video in latin is IC and 01:38:06

of vision video in latin is IC and that's related back to the sanskrit 01:38:06

that's related back to the sanskrit 01:38:09

that's related back to the sanskrit vidya a vidya unseeing unconsciousness 01:38:09

vidya a vidya unseeing unconsciousness 01:38:15

vidya a vidya unseeing unconsciousness lies behind craving and this in its turn 01:38:15

lies behind craving and this in its turn 01:38:20

lies behind craving and this in its turn lies behind suffering and of course when 01:38:20

lies behind suffering and of course when 01:38:24

lies behind suffering and of course when we in the West first heard about this we 01:38:24

we in the West first heard about this we 01:38:29

we in the West first heard about this we interpreted the idea in a very crude way 01:38:29

interpreted the idea in a very crude way 01:38:34

interpreted the idea in a very crude way which is this that all one's 01:38:34

which is this that all one's 01:38:40

which is this that all one's disappointments are the result of 01:38:40

disappointments are the result of 01:38:43

disappointments are the result of frustrated desire and but it's a very 01:38:43

frustrated desire and but it's a very 01:38:48

frustrated desire and but it's a very much more subtle point of view than that 01:38:48

much more subtle point of view than that 01:38:51

much more subtle point of view than that to understand Buddhism in any case you 01:38:51

to understand Buddhism in any case you 01:38:54

to understand Buddhism in any case you must realize that it is not something 01:38:54

must realize that it is not something 01:38:57

must realize that it is not something like a teaching as we ordinarily 01:38:57

like a teaching as we ordinarily 01:39:02

like a teaching as we ordinarily understand the system of teaching it 01:39:02

understand the system of teaching it 01:39:05

understand the system of teaching it isn't simply a way as we have in our 01:39:05

isn't simply a way as we have in our 01:39:08

isn't simply a way as we have in our universities of a teacher imparting you 01:39:08

universities of a teacher imparting you 01:39:12

universities of a teacher imparting you certain authoritative information which 01:39:12

certain authoritative information which 01:39:14

certain authoritative information which when you've heard it you've got the 01:39:14

when you've heard it you've got the 01:39:15

when you've heard it you've got the message it's a dialogue it's a situation 01:39:15

message it's a dialogue it's a situation 01:39:22

message it's a dialogue it's a situation in which the teacher doesn't really have 01:39:22

in which the teacher doesn't really have 01:39:25

in which the teacher doesn't really have anything to tell you he's simply 01:39:25

anything to tell you he's simply 01:39:28

anything to tell you he's simply reacting to your own bringing up of 01:39:28

reacting to your own bringing up of 01:39:31

reacting to your own bringing up of problems and it's as if people came to 01:39:31

problems and it's as if people came to 01:39:35

problems and it's as if people came to the Buddha and said sir we suffer 01:39:35

the Buddha and said sir we suffer 01:39:38

the Buddha and said sir we suffer terribly and what are we going to do 01:39:38

terribly and what are we going to do 01:39:40

terribly and what are we going to do about that and he replies is it not true 01:39:40

about that and he replies is it not true 01:39:43

about that and he replies is it not true that you suffer because 01:39:43

that you suffer because 01:39:44

that you suffer because desire they said well maybe that makes 01:39:44

desire they said well maybe that makes 01:39:47

desire they said well maybe that makes sense 01:39:47

sense 01:39:48

sense all-righty said see if you can do 01:39:48

all-righty said see if you can do 01:39:51

all-righty said see if you can do without desire and all those students go 01:39:51

without desire and all those students go 01:39:56

without desire and all those students go away and see if they can come their 01:39:56

away and see if they can come their 01:39:59

away and see if they can come their desires they come back and say this is 01:39:59

desires they come back and say this is 01:40:02

desires they come back and say this is pretty difficult because we are animal 01:40:02

pretty difficult because we are animal 01:40:06

pretty difficult because we are animal beings and we have all these appetites 01:40:06

beings and we have all these appetites 01:40:08

beings and we have all these appetites to begin with and then beyond that we're 01:40:08

to begin with and then beyond that we're 01:40:12

to begin with and then beyond that we're in the unfortunate position of being 01:40:12

in the unfortunate position of being 01:40:14

in the unfortunate position of being aware of time being aware of the future 01:40:14

aware of time being aware of the future 01:40:18

aware of time being aware of the future and although it's advantageous to know 01:40:18

and although it's advantageous to know 01:40:21

and although it's advantageous to know about the future in the long run it's 01:40:21

about the future in the long run it's 01:40:22

about the future in the long run it's depressing because we all know that we 01:40:22

depressing because we all know that we 01:40:26

depressing because we all know that we come to a bad end and that there 01:40:26

come to a bad end and that there 01:40:29

come to a bad end and that there everything falls apart in time that 01:40:29

everything falls apart in time that 01:40:31

everything falls apart in time that would be especially true if you lived 01:40:31

would be especially true if you lived 01:40:33

would be especially true if you lived under the influence of Indian cosmology 01:40:33

under the influence of Indian cosmology 01:40:35

under the influence of Indian cosmology where the world is really regarded as a 01:40:35

where the world is really regarded as a 01:40:37

where the world is really regarded as a process that begins beautifully but as 01:40:37

process that begins beautifully but as 01:40:40

process that begins beautifully but as it goes on gets worse and worse till it 01:40:40

it goes on gets worse and worse till it 01:40:42

it goes on gets worse and worse till it destroys itself then there's a long 01:40:42

destroys itself then there's a long 01:40:44

destroys itself then there's a long period of rest and it starts out again 01:40:44

period of rest and it starts out again 01:40:46

period of rest and it starts out again beginning beautifully but getting worse 01:40:46

beginning beautifully but getting worse 01:40:48

beginning beautifully but getting worse and worse all the time everything runs 01:40:48

and worse all the time everything runs 01:40:51

and worse all the time everything runs down in time according to that cosmology 01:40:51

down in time according to that cosmology 01:40:54

down in time according to that cosmology and so there seems to be a fundamental 01:40:54

and so there seems to be a fundamental 01:40:58

and so there seems to be a fundamental futility desire desire for whatever it 01:40:58

futility desire desire for whatever it 01:41:03

futility desire desire for whatever it is that you want but behind this the 01:41:03

is that you want but behind this the 01:41:10

is that you want but behind this the intention of studying desire seeing 01:41:10

intention of studying desire seeing 01:41:14

intention of studying desire seeing whether one can discipline desire 01:41:14

whether one can discipline desire 01:41:16

whether one can discipline desire whether one can curb it is a deeper 01:41:16

whether one can curb it is a deeper 01:41:20

whether one can curb it is a deeper question altogether which is what do you 01:41:20

question altogether which is what do you 01:41:22

question altogether which is what do you desire what makes you itch what sort of 01:41:22

desire what makes you itch what sort of 01:41:27

desire what makes you itch what sort of a situation would you like let's suppose 01:41:27

a situation would you like let's suppose 01:41:33

a situation would you like let's suppose I do this often in vocational guidance 01:41:33

I do this often in vocational guidance 01:41:35

I do this often in vocational guidance of students they come to me and say well 01:41:35

of students they come to me and say well 01:41:39

of students they come to me and say well we're getting out of college and we 01:41:39

we're getting out of college and we 01:41:41

we're getting out of college and we haven't the faintest idea what we want 01:41:41

haven't the faintest idea what we want 01:41:43

haven't the faintest idea what we want to do so I always ask the question what 01:41:43

to do so I always ask the question what 01:41:48

to do so I always ask the question what would you like to do if money were no 01:41:48

would you like to do if money were no 01:41:49

would you like to do if money were no object what would how would you really 01:41:49

object what would how would you really 01:41:53

object what would how would you really enjoy spending your life 01:41:53

enjoy spending your life 01:41:56

enjoy spending your life well it's so amazing as a result of our 01:41:56

well it's so amazing as a result of our 01:41:59

well it's so amazing as a result of our kind of educational system crowds of 01:41:59

kind of educational system crowds of 01:42:01

kind of educational system crowds of students say well we'd like to be 01:42:01

students say well we'd like to be 01:42:03

students say well we'd like to be painters we'd like to be poets we'd like 01:42:03

painters we'd like to be poets we'd like 01:42:05

painters we'd like to be poets we'd like to be writers but as everybody knows you 01:42:05

to be writers but as everybody knows you 01:42:07

to be writers but as everybody knows you can't earn any money that way or another 01:42:07

can't earn any money that way or another 01:42:09

can't earn any money that way or another person says well I'd like to live in out 01:42:09

person says well I'd like to live in out 01:42:10

person says well I'd like to live in out of doors life and ride horses I said you 01:42:10

of doors life and ride horses I said you 01:42:13

of doors life and ride horses I said you want to teach in a riding school let's 01:42:13

want to teach in a riding school let's 01:42:18

want to teach in a riding school let's go through with it what do you want to 01:42:18

go through with it what do you want to 01:42:19

go through with it what do you want to do when we finally got down to something 01:42:20

do when we finally got down to something 01:42:22

do when we finally got down to something which the individual says he really 01:42:22

which the individual says he really 01:42:24

which the individual says he really wants to do I will say to him you do 01:42:24

wants to do I will say to him you do 01:42:26

wants to do I will say to him you do that and forget the money because if you 01:42:26

that and forget the money because if you 01:42:33

that and forget the money because if you say that getting the money is the most 01:42:34

say that getting the money is the most 01:42:36

say that getting the money is the most important thing you will spend your life 01:42:36

important thing you will spend your life 01:42:39

important thing you will spend your life completely wasting your time you'll be 01:42:39

completely wasting your time you'll be 01:42:43

completely wasting your time you'll be doing things you don't like doing in 01:42:43

doing things you don't like doing in 01:42:45

doing things you don't like doing in order to go on living that is to go on 01:42:45

order to go on living that is to go on 01:42:46

order to go on living that is to go on doing things you don't like doing which 01:42:46

doing things you don't like doing which 01:42:48

doing things you don't like doing which is stupid better to have a short life 01:42:48

is stupid better to have a short life 01:42:52

is stupid better to have a short life that is full of what you like doing than 01:42:52

that is full of what you like doing than 01:42:56

that is full of what you like doing than a long life spent in a miserable way and 01:42:56

01:43:00

after all if you do really like what 01:43:00

after all if you do really like what 01:43:03

after all if you do really like what you're doing it doesn't matter what it 01:43:03

you're doing it doesn't matter what it 01:43:04

you're doing it doesn't matter what it is you can eventually turn it you could 01:43:04

is you can eventually turn it you could 01:43:08

is you can eventually turn it you could eventually become a master of it it's 01:43:08

eventually become a master of it it's 01:43:10

eventually become a master of it it's the only way to become a master of 01:43:10

the only way to become a master of 01:43:11

the only way to become a master of something to be really with it and then 01:43:11

something to be really with it and then 01:43:14

something to be really with it and then you'll be able to get a good fee for 01:43:14

you'll be able to get a good fee for 01:43:15

you'll be able to get a good fee for whatever it is so don't don't worry too 01:43:15

whatever it is so don't don't worry too 01:43:19

whatever it is so don't don't worry too much that that's everybody's somebody's 01:43:19

much that that's everybody's somebody's 01:43:21

much that that's everybody's somebody's interested in everything and anything 01:43:21

interested in everything and anything 01:43:24

interested in everything and anything you can be interested in you'll find 01:43:24

you can be interested in you'll find 01:43:25

you can be interested in you'll find others as well but it's absolutely 01:43:25

others as well but it's absolutely 01:43:27

others as well but it's absolutely stupid to spend your time doing things 01:43:27

stupid to spend your time doing things 01:43:30

stupid to spend your time doing things you don't like in order to go on 01:43:30

you don't like in order to go on 01:43:32

you don't like in order to go on spending things you don't like doing 01:43:32

spending things you don't like doing 01:43:33

spending things you don't like doing things you don't like and to teach your 01:43:33

things you don't like and to teach your 01:43:35

things you don't like and to teach your children to follow in the same track see 01:43:35

children to follow in the same track see 01:43:38

children to follow in the same track see what we're doing is we're bringing up 01:43:38

what we're doing is we're bringing up 01:43:41

what we're doing is we're bringing up children and educating them to live the 01:43:41

children and educating them to live the 01:43:43

children and educating them to live the same sort of lives we underneath in 01:43:43

same sort of lives we underneath in 01:43:46

same sort of lives we underneath in order that they may justify themselves 01:43:46

order that they may justify themselves 01:43:49

order that they may justify themselves and find satisfaction in life by 01:43:49

and find satisfaction in life by 01:43:50

and find satisfaction in life by bringing up their children to bring up 01:43:50

bringing up their children to bring up 01:43:52

bringing up their children to bring up their children to do the same thing so 01:43:52

their children to do the same thing so 01:43:54

their children to do the same thing so it's all retching no vomit it never gets 01:43:54

it's all retching no vomit it never gets 01:43:56

it's all retching no vomit it never gets there and so therefore it's so important 01:43:56

there and so therefore it's so important 01:44:04

there and so therefore it's so important to consider this question what do I 01:44:04

to consider this question what do I 01:44:06

to consider this question what do I desire 01:44:06

desire 01:44:08

desire well when we answer that question in a 01:44:08

well when we answer that question in a 01:44:11

well when we answer that question in a naive way we figure out that we want a 01:44:11

naive way we figure out that we want a 01:44:15

naive way we figure out that we want a desire or what we want is to control 01:44:15

desire or what we want is to control 01:44:18

desire or what we want is to control everything to create girls that don't 01:44:18

everything to create girls that don't 01:44:23

everything to create girls that don't grow old apples that don't rot clothes 01:44:23

grow old apples that don't rot clothes 01:44:27

grow old apples that don't rot clothes that never wear out conveyance --is that 01:44:27

that never wear out conveyance --is that 01:44:31

that never wear out conveyance --is that get from one place to another instantly 01:44:31

get from one place to another instantly 01:44:32

get from one place to another instantly so we don't have to wait power available 01:44:32

so we don't have to wait power available 01:44:35

so we don't have to wait power available to do anything that you could conceive 01:44:35

to do anything that you could conceive 01:44:37

to do anything that you could conceive and do it just instantly like that to 01:44:37

and do it just instantly like that to 01:44:40

and do it just instantly like that to get this funny technological omnipotence 01:44:40

01:44:44

but if you take time out to think about 01:44:44

but if you take time out to think about 01:44:48

but if you take time out to think about that and really go into it with your 01:44:48

that and really go into it with your 01:44:51

that and really go into it with your full strength of imagination and find 01:44:51

full strength of imagination and find 01:44:54

full strength of imagination and find out whether that's where you want to be 01:44:54

01:44:58

you will soon see that's not what you 01:44:58

you will soon see that's not what you 01:45:02

you will soon see that's not what you want because the moment you have a 01:45:02

want because the moment you have a 01:45:09

want because the moment you have a situation where you are really in 01:45:09

situation where you are really in 01:45:12

situation where you are really in control of things that is to say in 01:45:12

control of things that is to say in 01:45:14

control of things that is to say in which the future is almost completely 01:45:14

which the future is almost completely 01:45:17

which the future is almost completely predictable you will see as I said last 01:45:17

predictable you will see as I said last 01:45:21

predictable you will see as I said last night that a completely predictable 01:45:21

night that a completely predictable 01:45:22

night that a completely predictable future is already the past you've had it 01:45:22

future is already the past you've had it 01:45:27

future is already the past you've had it and that's not what you wanted you want 01:45:27

and that's not what you wanted you want 01:45:30

and that's not what you wanted you want a surprise and you don't know what 01:45:30

a surprise and you don't know what 01:45:32

a surprise and you don't know what that's going to be because obviously 01:45:32

that's going to be because obviously 01:45:34

that's going to be because obviously wouldn't be a surprise if you did you 01:45:34

wouldn't be a surprise if you did you 01:45:37

wouldn't be a surprise if you did you want a pleasant surprise I'd like you 01:45:37

want a pleasant surprise I'd like you 01:45:41

want a pleasant surprise I'd like you say what sort of a surprise would be 01:45:41

say what sort of a surprise would be 01:45:42

say what sort of a surprise would be pleasant and you can't really answer 01:45:42

pleasant and you can't really answer 01:45:48

pleasant and you can't really answer that because you know if there are to be 01:45:48

that because you know if there are to be 01:45:51

that because you know if there are to be such things as pleasant surprises there 01:45:51

such things as pleasant surprises there 01:45:53

such things as pleasant surprises there must also be unpleasant surprises there 01:45:53

must also be unpleasant surprises there 01:45:55

must also be unpleasant surprises there must be rude shops so you're like 01:45:55

must be rude shops so you're like 01:45:58

must be rude shops so you're like somebody taking one of those wishing 01:45:58

somebody taking one of those wishing 01:46:01

somebody taking one of those wishing well boxes you know tubs you know will 01:46:01

well boxes you know tubs you know will 01:46:04

well boxes you know tubs you know will you fish in and you'll bring out a 01:46:04

you fish in and you'll bring out a 01:46:05

you fish in and you'll bring out a package and you don't know whether 01:46:05

package and you don't know whether 01:46:07

package and you don't know whether you've got a dead rat in it or a new 01:46:07

you've got a dead rat in it or a new 01:46:09

you've got a dead rat in it or a new camera 01:46:09

camera 01:46:10

camera [Laughter] 01:46:11

[Laughter] 01:46:14

[Laughter] then that's the way that's that seems to 01:46:14

then that's the way that's that seems to 01:46:16

then that's the way that's that seems to be the thing that really excites people 01:46:16

01:46:21

but quite certainly there comes out of 01:46:21

but quite certainly there comes out of 01:46:24

but quite certainly there comes out of this inquiry a feeling of real 01:46:24

this inquiry a feeling of real 01:46:29

this inquiry a feeling of real disillusionment with the ideal of power 01:46:29

disillusionment with the ideal of power 01:46:33

disillusionment with the ideal of power to be in power to be in control is not 01:46:33

to be in power to be in control is not 01:46:37

to be in power to be in control is not something that any sensible person wants 01:46:37

01:46:41

imagine the situation of Big Brother mr. 01:46:41

imagine the situation of Big Brother mr. 01:46:47

imagine the situation of Big Brother mr. J Edgar Hoover Heinrich Himmler to be 01:46:47

J Edgar Hoover Heinrich Himmler to be 01:46:54

J Edgar Hoover Heinrich Himmler to be glued day and night to a highly defended 01:46:54

glued day and night to a highly defended 01:46:59

glued day and night to a highly defended office with telephones television 01:46:59

office with telephones television 01:47:04

office with telephones television screens watching pinky spying on 01:47:04

screens watching pinky spying on 01:47:09

screens watching pinky spying on everyone in anything getting all this 01:47:09

everyone in anything getting all this 01:47:11

everyone in anything getting all this information together why you could never 01:47:11

information together why you could never 01:47:13

information together why you could never leave the office I mean that people 01:47:13

leave the office I mean that people 01:47:16

leave the office I mean that people character I suppose like the edgar 01:47:16

character I suppose like the edgar 01:47:18

character I suppose like the edgar Hoover goes home in the evening and but 01:47:18

Hoover goes home in the evening and but 01:47:22

Hoover goes home in the evening and but when he's back home you know there are 01:47:22

when he's back home you know there are 01:47:24

when he's back home you know there are guards sitting outside the door does 01:47:24

guards sitting outside the door does 01:47:26

guards sitting outside the door does that hotline telephone go into something 01:47:26

that hotline telephone go into something 01:47:28

that hotline telephone go into something he's always having to be in control and 01:47:28

he's always having to be in control and 01:47:33

he's always having to be in control and he can't take any time huh he can't go 01:47:33

he can't take any time huh he can't go 01:47:37

he can't take any time huh he can't go for a walk in the park with a friend or 01:47:37

for a walk in the park with a friend or 01:47:39

for a walk in the park with a friend or go innocently to the movies or sit down 01:47:39

go innocently to the movies or sit down 01:47:41

go innocently to the movies or sit down and just relax and have an undistracted 01:47:41

and just relax and have an undistracted 01:47:46

and just relax and have an undistracted party in the bath is a big sir yeah what 01:47:46

party in the bath is a big sir yeah what 01:47:50

party in the bath is a big sir yeah what a pauper this guy is completely deprived 01:47:50

a pauper this guy is completely deprived 01:47:54

a pauper this guy is completely deprived because he wants to be in control 01:47:54

because he wants to be in control 01:47:55

because he wants to be in control because he wants power people are 01:47:55

because he wants power people are 01:47:59

because he wants power people are frustrated in love be if you're jilted 01:47:59

frustrated in love be if you're jilted 01:48:03

frustrated in love be if you're jilted there's a natural tendency in a human 01:48:03

there's a natural tendency in a human 01:48:05

there's a natural tendency in a human being to seek power as a substitute and 01:48:05

being to seek power as a substitute and 01:48:08

being to seek power as a substitute and that's a very negative thing it's like 01:48:08

that's a very negative thing it's like 01:48:11

that's a very negative thing it's like having a bad temper 01:48:11

having a bad temper 01:48:12

having a bad temper to seek power after you're frustrated in 01:48:12

to seek power after you're frustrated in 01:48:15

to seek power after you're frustrated in love you should try and get back on the 01:48:15

love you should try and get back on the 01:48:16

love you should try and get back on the love beam because nobody wants power now 01:48:16

love beam because nobody wants power now 01:48:23

love beam because nobody wants power now you may say that shirking responsibility 01:48:23

you may say that shirking responsibility 01:48:26

you may say that shirking responsibility that if you were a really responsible 01:48:26

that if you were a really responsible 01:48:28

that if you were a really responsible person you would go out for power and 01:48:28

person you would go out for power and 01:48:31

person you would go out for power and try to use power it to the best possible 01:48:31

try to use power it to the best possible 01:48:34

try to use power it to the best possible advantage for the benefit of all all 01:48:34

advantage for the benefit of all all 01:48:38

advantage for the benefit of all all right what would be the benefit of all 01:48:38

right what would be the benefit of all 01:48:41

right what would be the benefit of all ask them what do you want me to do with 01:48:41

ask them what do you want me to do with 01:48:45

ask them what do you want me to do with this power 01:48:45

this power 01:48:46

this power I'm dictator what would you like me to 01:48:46

I'm dictator what would you like me to 01:48:48

I'm dictator what would you like me to do well nobody knows because they 01:48:48

do well nobody knows because they 01:48:50

do well nobody knows because they haven't thought it through they think of 01:48:50

haven't thought it through they think of 01:48:52

haven't thought it through they think of all sorts of short-range things and they 01:48:52

all sorts of short-range things and they 01:48:55

all sorts of short-range things and they are largely conflicting and confusing 01:48:55

are largely conflicting and confusing 01:48:56

are largely conflicting and confusing because they're not well thought out but 01:48:56

because they're not well thought out but 01:49:00

because they're not well thought out but again when it finally comes down to it 01:49:00

again when it finally comes down to it 01:49:01

again when it finally comes down to it nobody wants to be God now then when 01:49:01

nobody wants to be God now then when 01:49:07

nobody wants to be God now then when oriental philosophy and religion was 01:49:07

oriental philosophy and religion was 01:49:10

oriental philosophy and religion was first introduced to the Western world it 01:49:10

first introduced to the Western world it 01:49:15

first introduced to the Western world it was introduced under the auspices of 01:49:15

was introduced under the auspices of 01:49:17

was introduced under the auspices of people who were fascinated with power it 01:49:17

people who were fascinated with power it 01:49:23

people who were fascinated with power it was introduced in the latter part of the 01:49:23

was introduced in the latter part of the 01:49:24

was introduced in the latter part of the 19th century when we had heard all about 01:49:24

19th century when we had heard all about 01:49:27

19th century when we had heard all about evolution and how the human race was 01:49:27

evolution and how the human race was 01:49:29

evolution and how the human race was going on to ever greater heights and we 01:49:29

going on to ever greater heights and we 01:49:31

going on to ever greater heights and we would eventually develop Superman 01:49:31

would eventually develop Superman 01:49:33

would eventually develop Superman according to Nietzsche or Rebbie Shaw 01:49:33

according to Nietzsche or Rebbie Shaw 01:49:36

according to Nietzsche or Rebbie Shaw and HG Wells remember all that early 01:49:36

and HG Wells remember all that early 01:49:42

and HG Wells remember all that early fantasy of where evolution would lead 01:49:42

fantasy of where evolution would lead 01:49:45

fantasy of where evolution would lead through the development of technology 01:49:45

through the development of technology 01:49:48

through the development of technology and so at this time people like HP 01:49:48

and so at this time people like HP 01:49:52

and so at this time people like HP Blavatsky were talking about the 01:49:52

Blavatsky were talking about the 01:49:55

Blavatsky were talking about the mysterious wisdom of the east and they 01:49:55

mysterious wisdom of the east and they 01:49:58

mysterious wisdom of the east and they phrased it they commended it to us in a 01:49:59

phrased it they commended it to us in a 01:50:01

phrased it they commended it to us in a technological spirit that there was 01:50:01

technological spirit that there was 01:50:04

technological spirit that there was psychic technology that there was 01:50:04

psychic technology that there was 01:50:07

psychic technology that there was something that you could go way beyond 01:50:07

something that you could go way beyond 01:50:09

something that you could go way beyond anything that could be done through the 01:50:09

anything that could be done through the 01:50:10

anything that could be done through the physical sciences you could cause your 01:50:10

physical sciences you could cause your 01:50:14

physical sciences you could cause your physical body to disintegrate to another 01:50:14

physical body to disintegrate to another 01:50:20

physical body to disintegrate to another level of vibration and then transmit it 01:50:20

level of vibration and then transmit it 01:50:23

level of vibration and then transmit it and reassemble it somewhere else 01:50:23

and reassemble it somewhere else 01:50:26

and reassemble it somewhere else you could live as long as you like 01:50:26

you could live as long as you like 01:50:28

you could live as long as you like because you control the fundamental 01:50:28

because you control the fundamental 01:50:30

because you control the fundamental processes you could determine if you 01:50:30

processes you could determine if you 01:50:32

processes you could determine if you decided to die where you would be reborn 01:50:32

decided to die where you would be reborn 01:50:34

decided to die where you would be reborn exactly you would be a complete master 01:50:34

exactly you would be a complete master 01:50:38

exactly you would be a complete master of life 01:50:38

of life 01:50:39

of life and so there are still innumerable books 01:50:39

and so there are still innumerable books 01:50:42

and so there are still innumerable books being sold which present oriental 01:50:42

being sold which present oriental 01:50:44

being sold which present oriental philosophy and religion in this light 01:50:44

philosophy and religion in this light 01:50:46

philosophy and religion in this light that charlatan Lobsang rampa who writes 01:50:46

that charlatan Lobsang rampa who writes 01:50:53

that charlatan Lobsang rampa who writes about Tibetan mastery people read that 01:50:53

about Tibetan mastery people read that 01:50:59

about Tibetan mastery people read that because they they think that there may 01:50:59

because they they think that there may 01:51:01

because they they think that there may be a way of beating the game so 01:51:01

be a way of beating the game so 01:51:08

be a way of beating the game so therefore the wise man of Asia were 01:51:08

therefore the wise man of Asia were 01:51:10

therefore the wise man of Asia were represented through this kind of 01:51:10

represented through this kind of 01:51:14

represented through this kind of propaganda as masters of life as for 01:51:14

propaganda as masters of life as for 01:51:20

propaganda as masters of life as for example people whose emotions didn't 01:51:20

example people whose emotions didn't 01:51:22

example people whose emotions didn't bother them who could put up with any 01:51:22

bother them who could put up with any 01:51:25

bother them who could put up with any amount of pain by simply turning off 01:51:25

amount of pain by simply turning off 01:51:27

amount of pain by simply turning off their feelings who could foretell the 01:51:27

their feelings who could foretell the 01:51:35

their feelings who could foretell the future who could read your thoughts and 01:51:35

future who could read your thoughts and 01:51:39

future who could read your thoughts and who were above all kinds of ordinary 01:51:39

who were above all kinds of ordinary 01:51:43

who were above all kinds of ordinary human frailty well when I first met 01:51:43

human frailty well when I first met 01:51:51

human frailty well when I first met Buddhist priests Zen masters Swami's all 01:51:51

Buddhist priests Zen masters Swami's all 01:51:56

Buddhist priests Zen masters Swami's all these wise men from the east one of the 01:51:56

these wise men from the east one of the 01:51:59

these wise men from the east one of the first things that impressed itself upon 01:51:59

first things that impressed itself upon 01:52:01

first things that impressed itself upon me was that they were perfectly ordinary 01:52:01

me was that they were perfectly ordinary 01:52:02

me was that they were perfectly ordinary human beings they had bad tempers they 01:52:02

human beings they had bad tempers they 01:52:09

human beings they had bad tempers they were fussy about certain things they 01:52:09

were fussy about certain things they 01:52:12

were fussy about certain things they just acted as I would expect human 01:52:12

just acted as I would expect human 01:52:15

just acted as I would expect human beings to act and so at first I was very 01:52:15

beings to act and so at first I was very 01:52:17

beings to act and so at first I was very disappointed I thought they had feet of 01:52:17

disappointed I thought they had feet of 01:52:19

disappointed I thought they had feet of clay but they didn't come up to these 01:52:19

clay but they didn't come up to these 01:52:21

clay but they didn't come up to these promises of psycho technology but after 01:52:21

promises of psycho technology but after 01:52:27

promises of psycho technology but after a while I got to realize why not that 01:52:27

a while I got to realize why not that 01:52:29

a while I got to realize why not that they had already thought all that 01:52:29

they had already thought all that 01:52:30

they had already thought all that through their thought through what might 01:52:30

through their thought through what might 01:52:34

through their thought through what might be done if one had all these powers and 01:52:34

be done if one had all these powers and 01:52:36

be done if one had all these powers and who decided that wasn't what they wanted 01:52:36

who decided that wasn't what they wanted 01:52:40

who decided that wasn't what they wanted the powers of this kind in sanskritic 01:52:40

the powers of this kind in sanskritic 01:52:43

the powers of this kind in sanskritic all-city yes I D DHI but there is hardly 01:52:43

all-city yes I D DHI but there is hardly 01:52:49

all-city yes I D DHI but there is hardly one decent scripture or text on you 01:52:49

one decent scripture or text on you 01:52:52

one decent scripture or text on you that does not say again and again if you 01:52:52

that does not say again and again if you 01:52:55

that does not say again and again if you get city ignore them go on to something 01:52:55

get city ignore them go on to something 01:52:59

get city ignore them go on to something else 01:52:59

else 01:52:59

else these are only the foothills these are 01:52:59

these are only the foothills these are 01:53:02

these are only the foothills these are furthermore not only foothills but they 01:53:02

furthermore not only foothills but they 01:53:04

furthermore not only foothills but they are seductive blind alleys won't take 01:53:04

are seductive blind alleys won't take 01:53:09

are seductive blind alleys won't take you anywhere at all now I think that 01:53:09

you anywhere at all now I think that 01:53:15

you anywhere at all now I think that this is the greatest possible lesson for 01:53:15

this is the greatest possible lesson for 01:53:18

this is the greatest possible lesson for the Western world to learn because we 01:53:18

the Western world to learn because we 01:53:20

the Western world to learn because we are so hung up on the idea of power of 01:53:20

are so hung up on the idea of power of 01:53:24

are so hung up on the idea of power of control of being able to make everything 01:53:24

control of being able to make everything 01:53:26

control of being able to make everything go the right way and we've never thought 01:53:26

go the right way and we've never thought 01:53:29

go the right way and we've never thought it through when you get control of it 01:53:29

it through when you get control of it 01:53:31

it through when you get control of it what are you going to do with it 01:53:31

01:53:34

supposing I have I'm an alchemist and I 01:53:34

supposing I have I'm an alchemist and I 01:53:40

supposing I have I'm an alchemist and I have a whole secret closet full of love 01:53:40

have a whole secret closet full of love 01:53:43

have a whole secret closet full of love filters very potent ones if I see a 01:53:43

filters very potent ones if I see a 01:53:47

filters very potent ones if I see a desirable woman all I have to do is to 01:53:47

desirable woman all I have to do is to 01:53:49

desirable woman all I have to do is to offer her a cigarette or give her a 01:53:49

offer her a cigarette or give her a 01:53:52

offer her a cigarette or give her a glass of wine with one of my secret 01:53:52

glass of wine with one of my secret 01:53:54

glass of wine with one of my secret potions in it and instantly I'm a master 01:53:54

01:54:02

now what when I think that through what 01:54:02

now what when I think that through what 01:54:05

now what when I think that through what would I do with the situation 01:54:05

would I do with the situation 01:54:07

would I do with the situation [Laughter] 01:54:07

[Laughter] 01:54:10

[Laughter] because all I've got again is that 01:54:10

because all I've got again is that 01:54:12

because all I've got again is that plastic doll that when I push it it does 01:54:12

plastic doll that when I push it it does 01:54:15

plastic doll that when I push it it does what I tell it to and doesn't have any 01:54:15

what I tell it to and doesn't have any 01:54:17

what I tell it to and doesn't have any come back what you always are looking 01:54:17

come back what you always are looking 01:54:21

come back what you always are looking for in things is where the surprise is 01:54:21

for in things is where the surprise is 01:54:24

for in things is where the surprise is there where there's a combat and you say 01:54:24

there where there's a combat and you say 01:54:26

there where there's a combat and you say my god this thing is alive it has a will 01:54:26

my god this thing is alive it has a will 01:54:29

my god this thing is alive it has a will of its own it is not in my control and I 01:54:29

of its own it is not in my control and I 01:54:33

of its own it is not in my control and I would like to have a relationship with 01:54:33

would like to have a relationship with 01:54:34

would like to have a relationship with something like that because it would 01:54:34

something like that because it would 01:54:36

something like that because it would never be dull and also yeah you would 01:54:36

never be dull and also yeah you would 01:54:42

never be dull and also yeah you would feel true affection yeah after all yeah 01:54:42

feel true affection yeah after all yeah 01:54:46

feel true affection yeah after all yeah you can make love to yourself in a 01:54:46

you can make love to yourself in a 01:54:47

you can make love to yourself in a mirror you couldn't have a one of those 01:54:47

mirror you couldn't have a one of those 01:54:51

mirror you couldn't have a one of those Dutch wives you buy them in place in 01:54:51

Dutch wives you buy them in place in 01:54:53

Dutch wives you buy them in place in Kobe where you get these rubber girls 01:54:53

Kobe where you get these rubber girls 01:54:55

Kobe where you get these rubber girls that you fill with hot water and sailors 01:54:55

that you fill with hot water and sailors 01:55:01

that you fill with hot water and sailors take them on long voyages but what an 01:55:01

take them on long voyages but what an 01:55:03

take them on long voyages but what an awful thing you know when you realize 01:55:03

awful thing you know when you realize 01:55:05

awful thing you know when you realize that this thing has no gear no surprise 01:55:05

that this thing has no gear no surprise 01:55:10

that this thing has no gear no surprise in it no thing that it does on its own 01:55:10

in it no thing that it does on its own 01:55:12

in it no thing that it does on its own you see and so when you think things 01:55:12

you see and so when you think things 01:55:15

you see and so when you think things through like that you understand you do 01:55:15

through like that you understand you do 01:55:17

through like that you understand you do not want power don't want to control 01:55:17

not want power don't want to control 01:55:20

not want power don't want to control everything and therefore these zen 01:55:20

everything and therefore these zen 01:55:25

everything and therefore these zen buddhist masters that I met and others 01:55:25

buddhist masters that I met and others 01:55:27

buddhist masters that I met and others were not super are cultists and very 01:55:27

were not super are cultists and very 01:55:32

were not super are cultists and very many Westerners who visited Japan 01:55:32

many Westerners who visited Japan 01:55:36

many Westerners who visited Japan expecting to get a Satori as a result of 01:55:36

expecting to get a Satori as a result of 01:55:40

expecting to get a Satori as a result of which they would know everything and 01:55:40

which they would know everything and 01:55:42

which they would know everything and control everything were grievously 01:55:42

control everything were grievously 01:55:44

control everything were grievously disappointed and said there's not much 01:55:44

disappointed and said there's not much 01:55:46

disappointed and said there's not much in this after all so therefore from the 01:55:46

in this after all so therefore from the 01:55:51

in this after all so therefore from the standpoint of Buddhism the fact that the 01:55:51

standpoint of Buddhism the fact that the 01:55:55

standpoint of Buddhism the fact that the power game is not the game is expressed 01:55:55

power game is not the game is expressed 01:55:58

power game is not the game is expressed by saying a Buddha is one who has gone 01:55:58

by saying a Buddha is one who has gone 01:56:05

by saying a Buddha is one who has gone beyond the gods because the gods have 01:56:05

beyond the gods because the gods have 01:56:09

beyond the gods because the gods have power the Buddhism imagines all kinds of 01:56:09

power the Buddhism imagines all kinds of 01:56:13

power the Buddhism imagines all kinds of levels of heaven worlds inhabited by all 01:56:13

levels of heaven worlds inhabited by all 01:56:16

levels of heaven worlds inhabited by all kinds of gods and the supreme of all the 01:56:16

kinds of gods and the supreme of all the 01:56:19

kinds of gods and the supreme of all the gods is called Apsara 01:56:19

01:56:23

but it is said that all those gods in 01:56:23

but it is said that all those gods in 01:56:26

but it is said that all those gods in their paradise law worlds are in samsara 01:56:26

their paradise law worlds are in samsara 01:56:29

their paradise law worlds are in samsara there in the round of birth and death 01:56:29

there in the round of birth and death 01:56:32

there in the round of birth and death and what goes up must come down they're 01:56:32

and what goes up must come down they're 01:56:35

and what goes up must come down they're immensely successful they're at the peak 01:56:35

immensely successful they're at the peak 01:56:38

immensely successful they're at the peak of power spiritual power but they're not 01:56:38

of power spiritual power but they're not 01:56:43

of power spiritual power but they're not delivered yet as they still don't know 01:56:43

delivered yet as they still don't know 01:56:46

delivered yet as they still don't know what they want and therefore in the 01:56:46

what they want and therefore in the 01:56:50

what they want and therefore in the exploration of what you want you get to 01:56:50

exploration of what you want you get to 01:56:55

exploration of what you want you get to the point where having all pleasures at 01:56:55

the point where having all pleasures at 01:56:59

the point where having all pleasures at your command 01:56:59

your command 01:56:59

your command and they Paul and you think of new 01:56:59

and they Paul and you think of new 01:57:05

and they Paul and you think of new sources of pleasure and eventually you 01:57:05

sources of pleasure and eventually you 01:57:09

sources of pleasure and eventually you get like the ancient Romans who had all 01:57:09

get like the ancient Romans who had all 01:57:13

get like the ancient Romans who had all these mad crowds of barbarians who had 01:57:13

these mad crowds of barbarians who had 01:57:17

these mad crowds of barbarians who had to go every Saturday to the Colosseum 01:57:17

to go every Saturday to the Colosseum 01:57:19

to go every Saturday to the Colosseum for a show that really had to surpass 01:57:19

for a show that really had to surpass 01:57:25

for a show that really had to surpass everything because they had public baths 01:57:25

everything because they had public baths 01:57:28

everything because they had public baths they had prostitutes they had every kind 01:57:28

they had prostitutes they had every kind 01:57:31

they had prostitutes they had every kind of luxury but when they went to see one 01:57:31

of luxury but when they went to see one 01:57:37

of luxury but when they went to see one of the big shows that people like Nero 01:57:37

of the big shows that people like Nero 01:57:38

of the big shows that people like Nero put on they would have for example 01:57:38

put on they would have for example 01:57:40

put on they would have for example floats circling the Colosseum all full 01:57:40

floats circling the Colosseum all full 01:57:45

floats circling the Colosseum all full of slave girls from distant parts of the 01:57:45

of slave girls from distant parts of the 01:57:48

of slave girls from distant parts of the Mediterranean garland it with flowers 01:57:48

Mediterranean garland it with flowers 01:57:50

Mediterranean garland it with flowers and waving at the crowd and going 01:57:50

and waving at the crowd and going 01:57:52

and waving at the crowd and going innocently around in the next minute 01:57:52

innocently around in the next minute 01:57:54

innocently around in the next minute they would release wild lions into the 01:57:54

they would release wild lions into the 01:57:57

they would release wild lions into the arena to eat up all the slave girls they 01:57:57

arena to eat up all the slave girls they 01:58:00

arena to eat up all the slave girls they got a big sadistic kick out of that 01:58:00

got a big sadistic kick out of that 01:58:02

got a big sadistic kick out of that because you see pursuing pleasure beyond 01:58:03

because you see pursuing pleasure beyond 01:58:07

because you see pursuing pleasure beyond a certain place takes you in to what are 01:58:07

a certain place takes you in to what are 01:58:10

a certain place takes you in to what are the Buddhists call the Naraka world that 01:58:10

the Buddhists call the Naraka world that 01:58:12

the Buddhists call the Naraka world that is to say the hells when you have 01:58:12

is to say the hells when you have 01:58:16

is to say the hells when you have explored pleasure to its ultimate limit 01:58:16

explored pleasure to its ultimate limit 01:58:19

explored pleasure to its ultimate limit the only thing you can get a kick out of 01:58:19

the only thing you can get a kick out of 01:58:20

the only thing you can get a kick out of his pain so naturally you descend from 01:58:20

his pain so naturally you descend from 01:58:24

his pain so naturally you descend from the devil world at the top of the wheel 01:58:24

the devil world at the top of the wheel 01:58:27

the devil world at the top of the wheel to the naraka world at the bottom where 01:58:27

to the naraka world at the bottom where 01:58:31

to the naraka world at the bottom where it is shows all these beings in in 01:58:31

it is shows all these beings in in 01:58:33

it is shows all these beings in in states of torture 01:58:33

states of torture 01:58:35

states of torture now of course the the priests say when 01:58:35

now of course the the priests say when 01:58:38

now of course the the priests say when they're bringing up children if you do 01:58:38

they're bringing up children if you do 01:58:40

they're bringing up children if you do bad things you will end up in the hell 01:58:40

bad things you will end up in the hell 01:58:43

bad things you will end up in the hell world but this is a very inadequate way 01:58:43

world but this is a very inadequate way 01:58:49

world but this is a very inadequate way of showing how one gets to the hell 01:58:49

of showing how one gets to the hell 01:58:51

of showing how one gets to the hell world you get to the hell world as a 01:58:51

world you get to the hell world as a 01:58:53

world you get to the hell world as a result of not knowing what you want as a 01:58:53

result of not knowing what you want as a 01:58:59

result of not knowing what you want as a result of thoughtless pursuit of 01:58:59

result of thoughtless pursuit of 01:59:02

result of thoughtless pursuit of pleasure which ends you eventually in 01:59:02

pleasure which ends you eventually in 01:59:04

pleasure which ends you eventually in the pursuit of pain so when you're in 01:59:04

the pursuit of pain so when you're in 01:59:06

the pursuit of pain so when you're in the hell well that's where you want to 01:59:06

the hell well that's where you want to 01:59:08

the hell well that's where you want to be so then the question is to terrify 01:59:08

be so then the question is to terrify 01:59:19

be so then the question is to terrify once more what do we want if you 01:59:19

once more what do we want if you 01:59:25

once more what do we want if you understand first of all that you don't 01:59:25

understand first of all that you don't 01:59:27

understand first of all that you don't want absolute power 01:59:27

want absolute power 01:59:30

want absolute power you don't want absolute control you want 01:59:30

you don't want absolute control you want 01:59:34

you don't want absolute control you want yes some control you see we always love 01:59:34

yes some control you see we always love 01:59:40

yes some control you see we always love controlling something that's not really 01:59:40

controlling something that's not really 01:59:42

controlling something that's not really under our control remember I gave you 01:59:42

under our control remember I gave you 01:59:44

under our control remember I gave you the illustration right in the beginning 01:59:45

the illustration right in the beginning 01:59:46

the illustration right in the beginning of holding a gyroscopic top and feeling 01:59:46

of holding a gyroscopic top and feeling 01:59:50

of holding a gyroscopic top and feeling sometimes here with it but sometimes 01:59:50

sometimes here with it but sometimes 01:59:51

sometimes here with it but sometimes it's alive under your hand and this 01:59:51

it's alive under your hand and this 01:59:56

it's alive under your hand and this sensation to you often gets a in driving 01:59:56

sensation to you often gets a in driving 01:59:59

sensation to you often gets a in driving a car or something like that it's more 01:59:59

a car or something like that it's more 02:00:01

a car or something like that it's more or less under your control but on the 02:00:01

or less under your control but on the 02:00:02

or less under your control but on the other hand it isn't and that's the the 02:00:02

other hand it isn't and that's the the 02:00:06

other hand it isn't and that's the the beautiful thing because when something 02:00:06

beautiful thing because when something 02:00:07

beautiful thing because when something is partly under your control but isn't 02:00:07

is partly under your control but isn't 02:00:10

is partly under your control but isn't then you have the same sort of 02:00:10

then you have the same sort of 02:00:12

then you have the same sort of relationship with it that you have when 02:00:12

relationship with it that you have when 02:00:14

relationship with it that you have when you have someone you love some other 02:00:14

you have someone you love some other 02:00:16

you have someone you love some other person they are partly under there your 02:00:16

person they are partly under there your 02:00:19

person they are partly under there your control because they've agreed to live 02:00:19

control because they've agreed to live 02:00:20

control because they've agreed to live with you and go along with you and so on 02:00:20

with you and go along with you and so on 02:00:22

with you and go along with you and so on but also they're not and the measure to 02:00:22

but also they're not and the measure to 02:00:25

but also they're not and the measure to which they're not is the measure to 02:00:25

which they're not is the measure to 02:00:27

which they're not is the measure to which they seem really alive to you so 02:00:27

which they seem really alive to you so 02:00:34

which they seem really alive to you so then we ask the question if the 02:00:34

then we ask the question if the 02:00:37

then we ask the question if the motivation of power gaining disappears 02:00:37

motivation of power gaining disappears 02:00:40

motivation of power gaining disappears you've seen through it in you know 02:00:40

you've seen through it in you know 02:00:42

you've seen through it in you know that's not what you want 02:00:42

that's not what you want 02:00:45

that's not what you want what other motivation takes its place 02:00:45

what other motivation takes its place 02:00:49

what other motivation takes its place as the origins of actions and it seems 02:00:49

as the origins of actions and it seems 02:00:56

as the origins of actions and it seems to me that the answer here is compassion 02:00:56

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simply because when you want to relate 02:01:05

simply because when you want to relate 02:01:16

simply because when you want to relate to another living being what you really 02:01:16

to another living being what you really 02:01:23

to another living being what you really are asking of them is that they be in 02:01:23

are asking of them is that they be in 02:01:31

are asking of them is that they be in the same situation that you are you want 02:01:31

the same situation that you are you want 02:01:38

the same situation that you are you want to meet and encounter someone else who 02:01:38

to meet and encounter someone else who 02:01:45

to meet and encounter someone else who has your problems your fears and your 02:01:45

has your problems your fears and your 02:01:52

has your problems your fears and your delights you don't want a doll you want 02:01:52

delights you don't want a doll you want 02:02:00

delights you don't want a doll you want another you another self because that 02:02:00

another you another self because that 02:02:09

another you another self because that would be at least as surprising to you 02:02:09

would be at least as surprising to you 02:02:11

would be at least as surprising to you as you are 02:02:11

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and so then at once that when you see 02:02:17

and so then at once that when you see 02:02:20

and so then at once that when you see that that is the case and that the most 02:02:20

that that is the case and that the most 02:02:24

that that is the case and that the most interesting thing in the world is the 02:02:24

interesting thing in the world is the 02:02:26

interesting thing in the world is the relationship with these others and you 02:02:26

relationship with these others and you 02:02:31

relationship with these others and you can see it once yourself in the 02:02:31

can see it once yourself in the 02:02:32

can see it once yourself in the situation of all the other people and 02:02:32

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then you think no I don't want to 02:02:36

then you think no I don't want to 02:02:38

then you think no I don't want to control these people I would like them 02:02:38

control these people I would like them 02:02:43

control these people I would like them yes to be controlled in the sense that 02:02:44

yes to be controlled in the sense that 02:02:46

yes to be controlled in the sense that they were happy to do the things I would 02:02:46

they were happy to do the things I would 02:02:48

they were happy to do the things I would like them to do but obviously I can't 02:02:48

like them to do but obviously I can't 02:02:55

like them to do but obviously I can't force that because if I forced it they 02:02:55

force that because if I forced it they 02:02:58

force that because if I forced it they wouldn't be happy 02:02:58

wouldn't be happy 02:03:00

wouldn't be happy see when you marry someone when you have 02:03:00

see when you marry someone when you have 02:03:03

see when you marry someone when you have a family you want your children you want 02:03:03

a family you want your children you want 02:03:08

a family you want your children you want your relatives you want your wife etc to 02:03:08

your relatives you want your wife etc to 02:03:11

your relatives you want your wife etc to be happy to do the things for you that 02:03:11

be happy to do the things for you that 02:03:13

be happy to do the things for you that they do and so we say to each other um 02:03:13

they do and so we say to each other um 02:03:21

they do and so we say to each other um would you like to bring the washing in 02:03:21

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and very often the answer is no but I 02:03:26

and very often the answer is no but I 02:03:30

and very often the answer is no but I will because you can see we put it that 02:03:30

will because you can see we put it that 02:03:35

will because you can see we put it that way because we always hope that the 02:03:35

way because we always hope that the 02:03:38

way because we always hope that the things that we do for each other will be 02:03:38

things that we do for each other will be 02:03:40

things that we do for each other will be pleasurable to both sides so a 02:03:40

pleasurable to both sides so a 02:03:43

pleasurable to both sides so a schoolteacher will get up in class and 02:03:43

schoolteacher will get up in class and 02:03:45

schoolteacher will get up in class and says what nice boy will clean the 02:03:45

says what nice boy will clean the 02:03:47

says what nice boy will clean the blackboard for me all these ways we use 02:03:47

blackboard for me all these ways we use 02:03:52

blackboard for me all these ways we use are trying to get voluntary cooperation 02:03:52

are trying to get voluntary cooperation 02:03:57

are trying to get voluntary cooperation willingly given help that's what we look 02:03:57

willingly given help that's what we look 02:04:01

willingly given help that's what we look for but there is a despite that a lot of 02:04:01

for but there is a despite that a lot of 02:04:05

for but there is a despite that a lot of foolishness that goes on this is the 02:04:05

foolishness that goes on this is the 02:04:07

foolishness that goes on this is the sound thing you see that there really is 02:04:07

sound thing you see that there really is 02:04:11

sound thing you see that there really is no greater satisfaction that you can 02:04:11

no greater satisfaction that you can 02:04:14

no greater satisfaction that you can imagine 02:04:14

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then that kind of personal relationship 02:04:19

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wherein you can trust a being who is 02:04:25

wherein you can trust a being who is 02:04:35

wherein you can trust a being who is other than you and not under your 02:04:35

other than you and not under your 02:04:37

other than you and not under your control to do for you what you want 02:04:37

control to do for you what you want 02:04:41

control to do for you what you want because they like it as you on your side 02:04:41

because they like it as you on your side 02:04:46

because they like it as you on your side would want to do something for them in 02:04:46

would want to do something for them in 02:04:49

would want to do something for them in that way 02:04:49

that way 02:04:49

that way and so as to give pleasure to the other 02:04:49

and so as to give pleasure to the other 02:04:51

and so as to give pleasure to the other person let's take in in in sexuality 02:04:51

person let's take in in in sexuality 02:04:54

person let's take in in in sexuality where you get a kind of a critical 02:04:54

where you get a kind of a critical 02:04:56

where you get a kind of a critical example of this the biggest fun in 02:04:56

example of this the biggest fun in 02:04:59

example of this the biggest fun in sexual relationships is giving orgasm to 02:04:59

sexual relationships is giving orgasm to 02:05:01

sexual relationships is giving orgasm to women and if that doesn't happen many 02:05:01

women and if that doesn't happen many 02:05:07

women and if that doesn't happen many men feel disappointed because the thing 02:05:07

men feel disappointed because the thing 02:05:11

men feel disappointed because the thing that they really wanted to do was to 02:05:11

that they really wanted to do was to 02:05:15

that they really wanted to do was to give pleasure and get their own pleasure 02:05:15

give pleasure and get their own pleasure 02:05:18

give pleasure and get their own pleasure out of giving it now that's compassion 02:05:18

out of giving it now that's compassion 02:05:25

out of giving it now that's compassion in the real sense of the word feeling 02:05:25

in the real sense of the word feeling 02:05:29

in the real sense of the word feeling with and through someone else where the 02:05:29

with and through someone else where the 02:05:34

with and through someone else where the whole trick is that you lose control for 02:05:34

whole trick is that you lose control for 02:05:38

whole trick is that you lose control for a while of the situation and say I throw 02:05:38

a while of the situation and say I throw 02:05:41

a while of the situation and say I throw the ball to you now it's yours now I may 02:05:41

the ball to you now it's yours now I may 02:05:48

the ball to you now it's yours now I may seem therefore as a result of talking in 02:05:48

seem therefore as a result of talking in 02:05:50

seem therefore as a result of talking in this way to be talking like a Jewish or 02:05:50

this way to be talking like a Jewish or 02:05:52

this way to be talking like a Jewish or a Christian theologian because that's 02:05:52

a Christian theologian because that's 02:05:56

a Christian theologian because that's what they say about God that God did 02:05:56

what they say about God that God did 02:06:00

what they say about God that God did something called canosa's in the 02:06:00

something called canosa's in the 02:06:03

something called canosa's in the beginning of all time kenosis is a Greek 02:06:03

beginning of all time kenosis is a Greek 02:06:05

beginning of all time kenosis is a Greek word meaning self-emptying 02:06:05

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self-sacrifice giving up and thereby 02:06:09

self-sacrifice giving up and thereby 02:06:14

self-sacrifice giving up and thereby conferred freedom of will and the power 02:06:14

conferred freedom of will and the power 02:06:18

conferred freedom of will and the power to love on angels and human beings and 02:06:18

to love on angels and human beings and 02:06:22

to love on angels and human beings and therefore took a terrific risk by 02:06:22

therefore took a terrific risk by 02:06:26

therefore took a terrific risk by trusting the other by trusting a 02:06:26

trusting the other by trusting a 02:06:28

trusting the other by trusting a principle called other that's not under 02:06:28

principle called other that's not under 02:06:29

principle called other that's not under your control with God of course it is 02:06:29

your control with God of course it is 02:06:32

your control with God of course it is out in the family 02:06:32

out in the family 02:06:33

out in the family control but he sits back and smokes a 02:06:33

control but he sits back and smokes a 02:06:35

control but he sits back and smokes a cigar sometimes and lets it go see what 02:06:35

cigar sometimes and lets it go see what 02:06:38

cigar sometimes and lets it go see what the children will do like the Lord in a 02:06:38

the children will do like the Lord in a 02:06:42

the children will do like the Lord in a green pastures a big cigar so but that 02:06:42

green pastures a big cigar so but that 02:06:52

green pastures a big cigar so but that you see it's really in a way the same 02:06:52

you see it's really in a way the same 02:06:54

you see it's really in a way the same idea as the Hindu idea when the 02:06:54

idea as the Hindu idea when the 02:06:58

idea as the Hindu idea when the Christian speaks of God giving the 02:06:58

Christian speaks of God giving the 02:07:00

Christian speaks of God giving the creature freedom of will the Hindu says 02:07:00

creature freedom of will the Hindu says 02:07:03

creature freedom of will the Hindu says now God gets lost in that person and 02:07:03

now God gets lost in that person and 02:07:06

now God gets lost in that person and gives up power and it's really the same 02:07:06

gives up power and it's really the same 02:07:16

gives up power and it's really the same thing it's the idea that the 02:07:16

thing it's the idea that the 02:07:18

thing it's the idea that the all-powerful surrenders power so that 02:07:18

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the more you give the power away what 02:07:24

the more you give the power away what 02:07:31

the more you give the power away what you're really doing is your other in 02:07:31

you're really doing is your other in 02:07:32

you're really doing is your other in yourself now the more you other yourself 02:07:32

yourself now the more you other yourself 02:07:36

yourself now the more you other yourself by giving power away the more of a self 02:07:36

by giving power away the more of a self 02:07:40

by giving power away the more of a self you are because self another our 02:07:40

you are because self another our 02:07:42

you are because self another our reciprocal so you find that people who 02:07:42

reciprocal so you find that people who 02:07:50

reciprocal so you find that people who through a sadhana a yoga discipline have 02:07:50

through a sadhana a yoga discipline have 02:07:55

through a sadhana a yoga discipline have overcome their ego have transcended the 02:07:55

overcome their ego have transcended the 02:07:59

overcome their ego have transcended the ego are tremendously strong 02:07:59

ego are tremendously strong 02:08:01

ego are tremendously strong personalities you would think 02:08:01

personalities you would think 02:08:04

personalities you would think theoretically they would all be non 02:08:04

theoretically they would all be non 02:08:06

theoretically they would all be non entities and to lack entirely what 02:08:06

entities and to lack entirely what 02:08:10

entities and to lack entirely what psychologists call ego strength but 02:08:10

psychologists call ego strength but 02:08:12

psychologists call ego strength but actually they're nothing of the kind 02:08:12

actually they're nothing of the kind 02:08:13

actually they're nothing of the kind [Applause] 02:08:14

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[Applause] they are every one of them unique 02:08:15

they are every one of them unique 02:08:17

they are every one of them unique they're all quite different from each 02:08:17

they're all quite different from each 02:08:19

they're all quite different from each other and they are very very far be 02:08:19

other and they are very very far be 02:08:23

other and they are very very far be called strong characters because the 02:08:23

called strong characters because the 02:08:27

called strong characters because the more they have given it up the more they 02:08:27

more they have given it up the more they 02:08:29

more they have given it up the more they get it so in in this way of thinking 02:08:29

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let's put it in another dimension for 02:08:44

let's put it in another dimension for 02:08:47

let's put it in another dimension for the moment let's suppose we we are 02:08:47

the moment let's suppose we we are 02:08:50

the moment let's suppose we we are thinking of a relationship that is not 02:08:50

thinking of a relationship that is not 02:08:51

thinking of a relationship that is not just the people people are very 02:08:51

just the people people are very 02:08:54

just the people people are very obviously other and independent of one's 02:08:54

obviously other and independent of one's 02:08:57

obviously other and independent of one's ego but give it to everything say to 02:08:57

ego but give it to everything say to 02:09:03

ego but give it to everything say to everything which in course is going to 02:09:03

everything which in course is going to 02:09:06

everything which in course is going to include as much as you of yourself as 02:09:06

include as much as you of yourself as 02:09:08

include as much as you of yourself as you can objective eyes in other words 02:09:08

you can objective eyes in other words 02:09:11

you can objective eyes in other words your stomach your intestines your 02:09:11

your stomach your intestines your 02:09:13

your stomach your intestines your everything scene say to it all now it's 02:09:13

everything scene say to it all now it's 02:09:17

everything scene say to it all now it's your turn let's see what you're gonna do 02:09:17

your turn let's see what you're gonna do 02:09:22

your turn let's see what you're gonna do let it happen you know you do this 02:09:22

let it happen you know you do this 02:09:26

let it happen you know you do this complete let off of control and you find 02:09:26

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that you you let's I have to put it in a 02:09:43

that you you let's I have to put it in a 02:09:46

that you you let's I have to put it in a provisional way first you get the 02:09:46

provisional way first you get the 02:09:48

provisional way first you get the sensation that they that everything else 02:09:48

sensation that they that everything else 02:09:51

sensation that they that everything else is living you it lives you that you've 02:09:51

is living you it lives you that you've 02:10:01

is living you it lives you that you've given away control you see to everything 02:10:01

given away control you see to everything 02:10:04

given away control you see to everything else it's a lovely irresponsible state 02:10:04

else it's a lovely irresponsible state 02:10:07

else it's a lovely irresponsible state to be in 02:10:07

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[Music] this concludes CD number two of do you 02:10:24

this concludes CD number two of do you 02:10:27

this concludes CD number two of do you do it or does it do you with Alan Watts 02:10:27

do it or does it do you with Alan Watts 02:10:30

do it or does it do you with Alan Watts our program continues with CD number 02:10:30

our program continues with CD number 02:10:33

our program continues with CD number three 02:10:33

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[Music] 02:10:48

[Music] you 02:10:48

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but then you see you you you do the flip 02:10:55

but then you see you you you do the flip 02:10:59

but then you see you you you do the flip deep in giving away the control you got 02:10:59

deep in giving away the control you got 02:11:05

deep in giving away the control you got it you've got the kind of control you 02:11:05

it you've got the kind of control you 02:11:10

it you've got the kind of control you wanted that's to say where you had a 02:11:10

wanted that's to say where you had a 02:11:15

wanted that's to say where you had a loving relationship to the world but you 02:11:15

loving relationship to the world but you 02:11:20

loving relationship to the world but you didn't have to make up your mind what it 02:11:20

didn't have to make up your mind what it 02:11:21

didn't have to make up your mind what it should do you let it decide now do you 02:11:21

should do you let it decide now do you 02:11:32

should do you let it decide now do you see that's how your bodies work you 02:11:32

see that's how your bodies work you 02:11:37

see that's how your bodies work you don't have to make up your mind what 02:11:37

don't have to make up your mind what 02:11:40

don't have to make up your mind what your nerve cells are going to do you've 02:11:40

your nerve cells are going to do you've 02:11:43

your nerve cells are going to do you've delegated all that authority if the 02:11:43

delegated all that authority if the 02:11:48

delegated all that authority if the president the United States has to lay 02:11:48

president the United States has to lay 02:11:49

president the United States has to lay awake at nights thinking what every 02:11:49

awake at nights thinking what every 02:11:52

awake at nights thinking what every official under his command is going to 02:11:52

official under his command is going to 02:11:53

official under his command is going to do he can't be President he's got to 02:11:53

do he can't be President he's got to 02:11:58

do he can't be President he's got to make an act of trust in all those 02:11:58

make an act of trust in all those 02:11:59

make an act of trust in all those subordinates to be responsible and carry 02:11:59

subordinates to be responsible and carry 02:12:02

subordinates to be responsible and carry on their things in just the same way as 02:12:02

on their things in just the same way as 02:12:03

on their things in just the same way as you make an act of trust to all your 02:12:03

you make an act of trust to all your 02:12:05

you make an act of trust to all your subordinate organs to carry on their 02:12:05

subordinate organs to carry on their 02:12:08

subordinate organs to carry on their functions without you having to tell 02:12:08

functions without you having to tell 02:12:10

functions without you having to tell them what to do and this is the secret 02:12:10

them what to do and this is the secret 02:12:15

them what to do and this is the secret of what we will call organic power as 02:12:15

of what we will call organic power as 02:12:18

of what we will call organic power as distinct from political power loud Sur 02:12:18

distinct from political power loud Sur 02:12:24

distinct from political power loud Sur puts it in this way the great Dow flows 02:12:24

puts it in this way the great Dow flows 02:12:27

puts it in this way the great Dow flows everywhere both to the left and to the 02:12:27

everywhere both to the left and to the 02:12:28

everywhere both to the left and to the right it loves and nourishes all things 02:12:28

right it loves and nourishes all things 02:12:32

right it loves and nourishes all things but does not lord it over them and when 02:12:32

but does not lord it over them and when 02:12:34

but does not lord it over them and when merits are accomplished it lays no claim 02:12:34

merits are accomplished it lays no claim 02:12:36

merits are accomplished it lays no claim to them the more therefore you 02:12:36

to them the more therefore you 02:12:43

to them the more therefore you relinquish power trust others the more 02:12:43

relinquish power trust others the more 02:12:50

relinquish power trust others the more powerful you become but in such a way 02:12:50

powerful you become but in such a way 02:12:55

powerful you become but in such a way that instead of having to lie awake 02:12:55

that instead of having to lie awake 02:12:59

that instead of having to lie awake nights controlling everything you do it 02:12:59

nights controlling everything you do it 02:13:03

nights controlling everything you do it beautifully by trusting the job to 02:13:03

beautifully by trusting the job to 02:13:05

beautifully by trusting the job to everyone else 02:13:05

everyone else 02:13:07

everyone else and they carry it on for you 02:13:07

and they carry it on for you 02:13:10

and they carry it on for you so you can go to sleep at night and 02:13:10

so you can go to sleep at night and 02:13:13

so you can go to sleep at night and trust your nervous system to wake you up 02:13:13

trust your nervous system to wake you up 02:13:15

trust your nervous system to wake you up in the morning you can even tell it I 02:13:15

in the morning you can even tell it I 02:13:17

in the morning you can even tell it I want to wake up at six o'clock and it 02:13:17

want to wake up at six o'clock and it 02:13:19

want to wake up at six o'clock and it will wake you up just like an alarm 02:13:19

will wake you up just like an alarm 02:13:21

will wake you up just like an alarm clock this seems a sort of paradox to 02:13:21

clock this seems a sort of paradox to 02:13:26

clock this seems a sort of paradox to say this but the principle of unity of 02:13:26

say this but the principle of unity of 02:13:31

say this but the principle of unity of coming to a sense of of oneness with the 02:13:31

coming to a sense of of oneness with the 02:13:36

coming to a sense of of oneness with the whole of the rest of the universe is not 02:13:36

whole of the rest of the universe is not 02:13:37

whole of the rest of the universe is not to try to be obtained power over the 02:13:37

to try to be obtained power over the 02:13:40

to try to be obtained power over the rest of the universe that will only 02:13:40

rest of the universe that will only 02:13:43

rest of the universe that will only disturb it and antagonize it and make it 02:13:43

disturb it and antagonize it and make it 02:13:46

disturb it and antagonize it and make it seem less one with you than ever the way 02:13:46

seem less one with you than ever the way 02:13:49

seem less one with you than ever the way to become one with the universe is to 02:13:49

to become one with the universe is to 02:13:53

to become one with the universe is to trust it as another as you would another 02:13:53

trust it as another as you would another 02:13:58

trust it as another as you would another and say let's see what you're going to 02:13:58

and say let's see what you're going to 02:14:03

and say let's see what you're going to do but in doing that you see in saying 02:14:03

do but in doing that you see in saying 02:14:08

do but in doing that you see in saying that to everything else that you have 02:14:08

that to everything else that you have 02:14:11

that to everything else that you have been taught to think is not you you are 02:14:11

been taught to think is not you you are 02:14:14

been taught to think is not you you are also saying it to yourself because 02:14:14

also saying it to yourself because 02:14:20

also saying it to yourself because finally as I pointed out you do not know 02:14:20

finally as I pointed out you do not know 02:14:24

finally as I pointed out you do not know where your decisions come from they pop 02:14:24

where your decisions come from they pop 02:14:28

where your decisions come from they pop up like hiccups and when you make a 02:14:28

up like hiccups and when you make a 02:14:34

up like hiccups and when you make a decision people have a great deal of 02:14:34

decision people have a great deal of 02:14:36

decision people have a great deal of anxiety about making decisions who's 02:14:36

anxiety about making decisions who's 02:14:40

anxiety about making decisions who's this guy who farmer who ordered a help 02:14:40

this guy who farmer who ordered a help 02:14:44

this guy who farmer who ordered a help man to come in and family was an 02:14:44

man to come in and family was an 02:14:50

man to come in and family was an extraordinarily efficient worker was the 02:14:50

extraordinarily efficient worker was the 02:14:51

extraordinarily efficient worker was the first day he put him on sawing logs and 02:14:51

first day he put him on sawing logs and 02:14:55

first day he put him on sawing logs and he saw more logs than anybody had ever 02:14:55

he saw more logs than anybody had ever 02:14:57

he saw more logs than anybody had ever saw it was fantastic but he'll all done 02:14:57

saw it was fantastic but he'll all done 02:15:00

saw it was fantastic but he'll all done in one day so the next day putting on 02:15:00

in one day so the next day putting on 02:15:03

in one day so the next day putting on put him on to mending fences and there 02:15:03

put him on to mending fences and there 02:15:06

put him on to mending fences and there were all kinds of broken fences around 02:15:06

were all kinds of broken fences around 02:15:08

were all kinds of broken fences around the farm and in one day he had the whole 02:15:08

the farm and in one day he had the whole 02:15:10

the farm and in one day he had the whole thing done so he thought what am I gonna 02:15:10

thing done so he thought what am I gonna 02:15:13

thing done so he thought what am I gonna do this guy so he took him down into a 02:15:13

do this guy so he took him down into a 02:15:16

do this guy so he took him down into a basement and said look here all are all 02:15:16

basement and said look here all are all 02:15:19

basement and said look here all are all the potatoes that have come in from this 02:15:19

the potatoes that have come in from this 02:15:21

the potatoes that have come in from this harvest and I want you to sort 02:15:21

harvest and I want you to sort 02:15:23

harvest and I want you to sort into three groups those that we sell 02:15:23

into three groups those that we sell 02:15:26

into three groups those that we sell those that we use for seeding and those 02:15:26

those that we use for seeding and those 02:15:29

those that we use for seeding and those that we throw away so he left him at 02:15:29

that we throw away so he left him at 02:15:34

that we throw away so he left him at that at the end of the day the laborer 02:15:34

that at the end of the day the laborer 02:15:36

that at the end of the day the laborer came back and said well that's enough 02:15:36

came back and said well that's enough 02:15:37

came back and said well that's enough mister I quit no he said you can't quit 02:15:37

mister I quit no he said you can't quit 02:15:42

mister I quit no he said you can't quit I've never had such an excellent weather 02:15:42

I've never had such an excellent weather 02:15:43

I've never had such an excellent weather I'll raise your salary I'll do anything 02:15:43

I'll raise your salary I'll do anything 02:15:46

I'll raise your salary I'll do anything to keep you around it KY I said no it's 02:15:46

to keep you around it KY I said no it's 02:15:48

to keep you around it KY I said no it's all right mending fences and chopping 02:15:48

all right mending fences and chopping 02:15:49

all right mending fences and chopping wood but this potato business is 02:15:49

wood but this potato business is 02:15:51

wood but this potato business is decision after decision after decision 02:15:51

decision after decision after decision 02:15:52

decision after decision after decision obviously so when we decide we're always 02:15:52

obviously so when we decide we're always 02:16:02

obviously so when we decide we're always worrying did I think this over long 02:16:02

worrying did I think this over long 02:16:06

worrying did I think this over long enough did I take enough data into 02:16:06

enough did I take enough data into 02:16:09

enough did I take enough data into consideration and if you think it 02:16:09

consideration and if you think it 02:16:12

consideration and if you think it through you'll find you never could take 02:16:12

through you'll find you never could take 02:16:15

through you'll find you never could take enough data into consideration the data 02:16:15

enough data into consideration the data 02:16:18

enough data into consideration the data for a decision in any given situation is 02:16:18

for a decision in any given situation is 02:16:20

for a decision in any given situation is infinite so what you do is you go 02:16:20

infinite so what you do is you go 02:16:24

infinite so what you do is you go through the motions of thinking out what 02:16:24

through the motions of thinking out what 02:16:27

through the motions of thinking out what you will do about this and then when the 02:16:27

you will do about this and then when the 02:16:30

you will do about this and then when the time comes to act you make a snap 02:16:30

time comes to act you make a snap 02:16:32

time comes to act you make a snap judgment I mean I'm speaking a little 02:16:32

judgment I mean I'm speaking a little 02:16:39

judgment I mean I'm speaking a little extremely making some fun of it and so 02:16:39

extremely making some fun of it and so 02:16:42

extremely making some fun of it and so on because after all we do occasionally 02:16:42

on because after all we do occasionally 02:16:46

on because after all we do occasionally get the vague outlines of things and 02:16:46

get the vague outlines of things and 02:16:48

get the vague outlines of things and make a right decision on rational 02:16:48

make a right decision on rational 02:16:49

make a right decision on rational grounds but we fortunately forget the 02:16:49

grounds but we fortunately forget the 02:16:55

grounds but we fortunately forget the variables that could have interfered 02:16:55

variables that could have interfered 02:16:57

variables that could have interfered with this coming out right it's amazing 02:16:57

with this coming out right it's amazing 02:17:03

with this coming out right it's amazing how often it works but warriors are 02:17:03

how often it works but warriors are 02:17:08

how often it works but warriors are people who think of all the variables 02:17:08

people who think of all the variables 02:17:12

people who think of all the variables beyond their control and what might 02:17:12

beyond their control and what might 02:17:13

beyond their control and what might happen so then when you make a decision 02:17:13

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and it works out all right 02:17:22

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I think very little of it has much to do 02:17:26

I think very little of it has much to do 02:17:30

I think very little of it has much to do with your conscious intent and control 02:17:30

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but somehow or other you are able to 02:17:39

02:17:45

decide and control things more 02:17:45

decide and control things more 02:17:49

decide and control things more harmoniously if you delegate authority 02:17:49

harmoniously if you delegate authority 02:17:54

harmoniously if you delegate authority it's why very great businessmen others 02:17:54

it's why very great businessmen others 02:17:57

it's why very great businessmen others who can delegate authority trust others 02:17:57

who can delegate authority trust others 02:18:02

who can delegate authority trust others to work for them because those are 02:18:02

to work for them because those are 02:18:04

to work for them because those are people developing businesses on the same 02:18:04

people developing businesses on the same 02:18:07

people developing businesses on the same basic structure that is fundamental to a 02:18:07

basic structure that is fundamental to a 02:18:10

basic structure that is fundamental to a living organism delegation of authority 02:18:10

living organism delegation of authority 02:18:14

living organism delegation of authority it loves and nourishes all things but 02:18:14

it loves and nourishes all things but 02:18:16

it loves and nourishes all things but does not lord it over them and you see 02:18:16

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then the world what is happening is this 02:18:22

then the world what is happening is this 02:18:26

then the world what is happening is this the more you let go of it and Trust it 02:18:26

the more you let go of it and Trust it 02:18:36

the more you let go of it and Trust it as if it were quite other than you 02:18:36

02:18:50

the more you realize the inseparable 02:18:50

the more you realize the inseparable 02:18:58

the more you realize the inseparable identity of self and other to go back if 02:18:58

identity of self and other to go back if 02:19:10

identity of self and other to go back if you try to find the identity of self and 02:19:10

you try to find the identity of self and 02:19:15

you try to find the identity of self and other by subjecting other to self no-go 02:19:15

other by subjecting other to self no-go 02:19:22

other by subjecting other to self no-go if on the other hand you find it through 02:19:22

if on the other hand you find it through 02:19:26

if on the other hand you find it through giving self that is control over to 02:19:26

giving self that is control over to 02:19:30

giving self that is control over to other and trusting that you may make a 02:19:30

other and trusting that you may make a 02:19:34

other and trusting that you may make a mistake you may make a bad gamble but in 02:19:34

mistake you may make a bad gamble but in 02:19:38

mistake you may make a bad gamble but in the long run you're acting on a 02:19:38

the long run you're acting on a 02:19:39

the long run you're acting on a principle which has the backing of 02:19:39

principle which has the backing of 02:19:45

principle which has the backing of evolution this is the way biological 02:19:45

evolution this is the way biological 02:19:50

evolution this is the way biological evolution goes on constant delegation of 02:19:50

evolution goes on constant delegation of 02:19:52

evolution goes on constant delegation of authority that's why at the democracy is 02:19:52

authority that's why at the democracy is 02:19:57

authority that's why at the democracy is superior to the monarchy mister 02:19:57

superior to the monarchy mister 02:20:02

superior to the monarchy mister Tocqueville who said that democracy is 02:20:02

Tocqueville who said that democracy is 02:20:04

Tocqueville who said that democracy is always right but for the wrong reasons 02:20:04

02:20:08

because there is operating in a 02:20:08

because there is operating in a 02:20:10

because there is operating in a democracy the principle the Buckminster 02:20:10

democracy the principle the Buckminster 02:20:12

democracy the principle the Buckminster Fuller called synergy and synergy is the 02:20:12

Fuller called synergy and synergy is the 02:20:16

Fuller called synergy and synergy is the intelligence of a highly complex system 02:20:16

intelligence of a highly complex system 02:20:20

intelligence of a highly complex system the nature of which is always unknown to 02:20:20

the nature of which is always unknown to 02:20:22

the nature of which is always unknown to the individual members because that's 02:20:22

the individual members because that's 02:20:29

the individual members because that's goes back again to this point that we 02:20:29

goes back again to this point that we 02:20:34

goes back again to this point that we are always entering a new environment we 02:20:34

are always entering a new environment we 02:20:38

are always entering a new environment we don't ever know fully what the new 02:20:38

don't ever know fully what the new 02:20:39

don't ever know fully what the new environment is because the only 02:20:39

environment is because the only 02:20:41

environment is because the only environments we know the past ones there 02:20:41

environments we know the past ones there 02:20:44

environments we know the past ones there is always then operating in the 02:20:44

is always then operating in the 02:20:46

is always then operating in the development of cellular life on any 02:20:46

development of cellular life on any 02:20:49

development of cellular life on any level a new way of organization higher 02:20:49

level a new way of organization higher 02:20:55

level a new way of organization higher than any existing form 02:20:55

than any existing form 02:20:57

than any existing form and we're not aware of it until after 02:20:57

and we're not aware of it until after 02:20:59

and we're not aware of it until after it's happened did if you ever saw for 02:20:59

it's happened did if you ever saw for 02:21:05

it's happened did if you ever saw for example the film kontiki this man 02:21:05

example the film kontiki this man 02:21:10

example the film kontiki this man figured out a few things as to how to 02:21:10

figured out a few things as to how to 02:21:12

figured out a few things as to how to make a balsa wood raft to sail from 02:21:12

make a balsa wood raft to sail from 02:21:15

make a balsa wood raft to sail from South America to the Pacific Islands but 02:21:15

South America to the Pacific Islands but 02:21:18

South America to the Pacific Islands but once he had set this in motion he 02:21:18

once he had set this in motion he 02:21:20

once he had set this in motion he discovered that all sorts of unexpected 02:21:20

discovered that all sorts of unexpected 02:21:22

discovered that all sorts of unexpected factors cooperated with him that when 02:21:22

factors cooperated with him that when 02:21:28

factors cooperated with him that when the wood got wet it expanded so that the 02:21:28

the wood got wet it expanded so that the 02:21:31

the wood got wet it expanded so that the ties bit into it and held it completely 02:21:31

ties bit into it and held it completely 02:21:35

ties bit into it and held it completely secure 02:21:35

secure 02:21:35

secure he'd never expected that and he found 02:21:35

he'd never expected that and he found 02:21:39

he'd never expected that and he found that as he sailed along a flying fish 02:21:39

that as he sailed along a flying fish 02:21:42

that as he sailed along a flying fish would simply a light flat on the deck 02:21:42

would simply a light flat on the deck 02:21:44

would simply a light flat on the deck every morning for breakfast that all 02:21:44

every morning for breakfast that all 02:21:49

every morning for breakfast that all kinds of natural factors it was just he 02:21:49

kinds of natural factors it was just he 02:21:51

kinds of natural factors it was just he that he had touched a key where he was 02:21:51

that he had touched a key where he was 02:21:53

that he had touched a key where he was flowing with the course of nature and 02:21:53

flowing with the course of nature and 02:21:55

flowing with the course of nature and everything cooperated with it because he 02:21:55

everything cooperated with it because he 02:21:57

everything cooperated with it because he had touched the key he had made the act 02:21:57

had touched the key he had made the act 02:21:59

had touched the key he had made the act of faith and he was just picking up in 02:21:59

of faith and he was just picking up in 02:22:04

of faith and he was just picking up in other words a practice which had been 02:22:04

other words a practice which had been 02:22:06

other words a practice which had been hundreds and hundreds of years ago had 02:22:06

hundreds and hundreds of years ago had 02:22:08

hundreds and hundreds of years ago had been followed by others who had worked 02:22:08

been followed by others who had worked 02:22:10

been followed by others who had worked it out 02:22:10

it out 02:22:10

it out by their great ecological awareness 02:22:10

02:22:22

so we do come out of this way of 02:22:22

so we do come out of this way of 02:22:27

so we do come out of this way of thinking to something which has I would 02:22:27

thinking to something which has I would 02:22:31

thinking to something which has I would say the most enormous ly creative and 02:22:31

say the most enormous ly creative and 02:22:34

say the most enormous ly creative and revolutionary social consequences that 02:22:34

revolutionary social consequences that 02:22:44

revolutionary social consequences that it has become not virtuous not 02:22:44

it has become not virtuous not 02:22:54

it has become not virtuous not self-sacrificing and not anything like 02:22:54

self-sacrificing and not anything like 02:22:58

self-sacrificing and not anything like that it has become the hardest practical 02:22:58

that it has become the hardest practical 02:23:02

that it has become the hardest practical politics to let go control to others to 02:23:02

politics to let go control to others to 02:23:11

politics to let go control to others to give up trying to dominate the scene 02:23:11

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also in a parallel way it has become at 02:23:19

also in a parallel way it has become at 02:23:24

also in a parallel way it has become at this time in our history very much hard 02:23:24

this time in our history very much hard 02:23:27

this time in our history very much hard practical politics and to learn how to 02:23:27

practical politics and to learn how to 02:23:34

practical politics and to learn how to enjoy ourselves you can go to the 02:23:34

enjoy ourselves you can go to the 02:23:38

enjoy ourselves you can go to the Protestant people with their Protestant 02:23:38

Protestant people with their Protestant 02:23:41

Protestant people with their Protestant ethic who are against this kind of thing 02:23:41

ethic who are against this kind of thing 02:23:45

ethic who are against this kind of thing and now say to them with great Glee it 02:23:45

and now say to them with great Glee it 02:23:48

and now say to them with great Glee it is your solemn duty to learn how to 02:23:48

is your solemn duty to learn how to 02:23:52

is your solemn duty to learn how to enjoy yourself why because in an age of 02:23:52

enjoy yourself why because in an age of 02:23:57

enjoy yourself why because in an age of leisure people have really got to know 02:23:57

leisure people have really got to know 02:24:02

leisure people have really got to know how to enjoy themselves because if they 02:24:02

how to enjoy themselves because if they 02:24:07

how to enjoy themselves because if they don't 02:24:07

don't 02:24:08

don't they'll smash the whole future of the 02:24:08

they'll smash the whole future of the 02:24:11

they'll smash the whole future of the human race so you a utopia has become 02:24:11

human race so you a utopia has become 02:24:19

human race so you a utopia has become not some sort of a dream but an urgent 02:24:19

not some sort of a dream but an urgent 02:24:22

not some sort of a dream but an urgent necessity we can't do without it because 02:24:22

necessity we can't do without it because 02:24:28

necessity we can't do without it because if we try to do without it what's gonna 02:24:28

if we try to do without it what's gonna 02:24:30

if we try to do without it what's gonna happen is that we are going to terminate 02:24:30

happen is that we are going to terminate 02:24:32

happen is that we are going to terminate our race in a mutual Massacre of 02:24:32

our race in a mutual Massacre of 02:24:34

our race in a mutual Massacre of scapegoats and so the present paranoia 02:24:34

scapegoats and so the present paranoia 02:24:42

scapegoats and so the present paranoia in the United States that is going on 02:24:42

in the United States that is going on 02:24:45

in the United States that is going on where everybody is thinking up a new 02:24:45

where everybody is thinking up a new 02:24:47

where everybody is thinking up a new scapegoat and how great it would be to 02:24:47

scapegoat and how great it would be to 02:24:49

scapegoat and how great it would be to demolish them I'll get them out of power 02:24:49

demolish them I'll get them out of power 02:24:52

demolish them I'll get them out of power or all this kind of bickering and right 02:24:52

or all this kind of bickering and right 02:24:59

or all this kind of bickering and right and left politics has become irrelevant 02:24:59

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because we now have the opportunity of 02:25:04

02:25:11

trusting our own intelligence our own 02:25:11

trusting our own intelligence our own 02:25:15

trusting our own intelligence our own technology to take the risk of doing 02:25:15

technology to take the risk of doing 02:25:25

technology to take the risk of doing what we want which will work to the 02:25:25

what we want which will work to the 02:25:30

what we want which will work to the extent that we realize that what I want 02:25:30

extent that we realize that what I want 02:25:33

extent that we realize that what I want basically what I really want is what you 02:25:33

basically what I really want is what you 02:25:35

basically what I really want is what you want and I don't know what 02:25:35

02:25:42

surprise me but that's my that's the 02:25:42

surprise me but that's my that's the 02:25:52

surprise me but that's my that's the kinship between ironed out so when I ask 02:25:52

kinship between ironed out so when I ask 02:25:59

kinship between ironed out so when I ask I go right down to the question should 02:25:59

I go right down to the question should 02:26:01

I go right down to the question should be started with what do I want the 02:26:01

be started with what do I want the 02:26:05

be started with what do I want the answer is I don't know when bodhidharma 02:26:05

answer is I don't know when bodhidharma 02:26:10

answer is I don't know when bodhidharma was asked who are you which is another 02:26:10

was asked who are you which is another 02:26:12

was asked who are you which is another form of the same question he said I 02:26:12

form of the same question he said I 02:26:14

form of the same question he said I don't know planting flowers to which the 02:26:14

don't know planting flowers to which the 02:26:16

don't know planting flowers to which the butterflies come 02:26:16

butterflies come 02:26:17

butterflies come Bodhidharma says I know not I don't know 02:26:17

Bodhidharma says I know not I don't know 02:26:23

Bodhidharma says I know not I don't know what happened well when you don't know 02:26:23

what happened well when you don't know 02:26:25

what happened well when you don't know what you want you've really reached the 02:26:25

what you want you've really reached the 02:26:27

what you want you've really reached the state of desirelessness when you really 02:26:27

state of desirelessness when you really 02:26:35

state of desirelessness when you really don't know 02:26:35

don't know 02:26:36

don't know did you see there's a there's a 02:26:36

did you see there's a there's a 02:26:38

did you see there's a there's a beginning stage of not knowing and 02:26:38

beginning stage of not knowing and 02:26:39

beginning stage of not knowing and there's an ending stage of not knowing 02:26:39

there's an ending stage of not knowing 02:26:41

there's an ending stage of not knowing in the beginning stage you don't know 02:26:41

in the beginning stage you don't know 02:26:42

in the beginning stage you don't know what you want because you haven't 02:26:42

what you want because you haven't 02:26:43

what you want because you haven't thought about it or you've only thought 02:26:43

thought about it or you've only thought 02:26:45

thought about it or you've only thought superficially and then when you somebody 02:26:45

superficially and then when you somebody 02:26:48

superficially and then when you somebody forces you to think about it and go 02:26:48

forces you to think about it and go 02:26:50

forces you to think about it and go through and say yeah I think I'd like 02:26:50

through and say yeah I think I'd like 02:26:51

through and say yeah I think I'd like this I think I like that I think I'd 02:26:51

this I think I like that I think I'd 02:26:53

this I think I like that I think I'd like the other as the middle stage then 02:26:53

like the other as the middle stage then 02:26:56

like the other as the middle stage then you get beyond that say is that what I 02:26:56

you get beyond that say is that what I 02:26:57

you get beyond that say is that what I really want the end you say no I don't 02:26:57

really want the end you say no I don't 02:27:02

really want the end you say no I don't think that's it I might be satisfied 02:27:02

think that's it I might be satisfied 02:27:06

think that's it I might be satisfied with it for a while and I wouldn't turn 02:27:06

with it for a while and I wouldn't turn 02:27:07

with it for a while and I wouldn't turn my nose up at it but it's not really 02:27:07

my nose up at it but it's not really 02:27:10

my nose up at it but it's not really what I want why don't you really know 02:27:10

what I want why don't you really know 02:27:11

what I want why don't you really know what you want two reasons that you don't 02:27:11

what you want two reasons that you don't 02:27:18

what you want two reasons that you don't really know what you want number one you 02:27:18

really know what you want number one you 02:27:21

really know what you want number one you have it 02:27:21

02:27:24

number two you don't know yourself 02:27:24

number two you don't know yourself 02:27:31

number two you don't know yourself because you never can the Godhead is 02:27:31

because you never can the Godhead is 02:27:38

because you never can the Godhead is never an object of its own knowledge 02:27:38

never an object of its own knowledge 02:27:40

never an object of its own knowledge just as a knife doesn't cut itself fire 02:27:40

just as a knife doesn't cut itself fire 02:27:43

just as a knife doesn't cut itself fire doesn't burn itself light doesn't 02:27:43

doesn't burn itself light doesn't 02:27:45

doesn't burn itself light doesn't illumine itself it's always an endless 02:27:45

illumine itself it's always an endless 02:27:49

illumine itself it's always an endless mystery to itself I don't know 02:27:49

mystery to itself I don't know 02:27:51

mystery to itself I don't know and this I don't know 02:27:51

and this I don't know 02:27:54

and this I don't know other than the infinite interior of the 02:27:54

other than the infinite interior of the 02:27:58

other than the infinite interior of the spirit this I don't know is the same 02:27:58

spirit this I don't know is the same 02:28:08

spirit this I don't know is the same thing as I love I let go I don't try to 02:28:08

thing as I love I let go I don't try to 02:28:13

thing as I love I let go I don't try to force or control it's the same thing as 02:28:13

force or control it's the same thing as 02:28:17

force or control it's the same thing as humility and so the Upanishads say if 02:28:17

humility and so the Upanishads say if 02:28:28

humility and so the Upanishads say if you think that you understand Brahma 02:28:28

you think that you understand Brahma 02:28:31

you think that you understand Brahma you do not understand and you have yet 02:28:31

you do not understand and you have yet 02:28:35

you do not understand and you have yet to be instructed further if you know 02:28:35

to be instructed further if you know 02:28:38

to be instructed further if you know that you do not understand then you 02:28:38

that you do not understand then you 02:28:40

that you do not understand then you truly understand for the Brahman is 02:28:40

truly understand for the Brahman is 02:28:43

truly understand for the Brahman is unknown to those who know it and known 02:28:43

unknown to those who know it and known 02:28:46

unknown to those who know it and known to those who know it not and the 02:28:46

to those who know it not and the 02:28:53

to those who know it not and the principle is that anytime you as it were 02:28:53

principle is that anytime you as it were 02:29:00

principle is that anytime you as it were voluntarily let up control in other 02:29:00

voluntarily let up control in other 02:29:03

voluntarily let up control in other words cease to cling to yourself you 02:29:03

words cease to cling to yourself you 02:29:06

words cease to cling to yourself you have an access of power because you're 02:29:07

have an access of power because you're 02:29:11

have an access of power because you're wasting energy all the time in 02:29:11

wasting energy all the time in 02:29:13

wasting energy all the time in self-defense 02:29:13

self-defense 02:29:15

self-defense trying to manage things trying to force 02:29:15

trying to manage things trying to force 02:29:18

trying to manage things trying to force things to conform to your will the 02:29:18

things to conform to your will the 02:29:19

things to conform to your will the moment you stop doing that that wasted 02:29:19

moment you stop doing that that wasted 02:29:21

moment you stop doing that that wasted energy is available and therefore you 02:29:22

energy is available and therefore you 02:29:26

energy is available and therefore you are in that sense having that energy 02:29:26

are in that sense having that energy 02:29:28

are in that sense having that energy available you are one with the Divine 02:29:28

available you are one with the Divine 02:29:30

available you are one with the Divine Principle you have the energy when 02:29:30

Principle you have the energy when 02:29:33

Principle you have the energy when you're trying however to act as if you 02:29:33

you're trying however to act as if you 02:29:35

you're trying however to act as if you were God that is to say you don't trust 02:29:35

were God that is to say you don't trust 02:29:38

were God that is to say you don't trust anybody and you're the dictator and you 02:29:38

anybody and you're the dictator and you 02:29:39

anybody and you're the dictator and you have to keep everybody in line you lose 02:29:39

have to keep everybody in line you lose 02:29:41

have to keep everybody in line you lose the divine energy because what you're 02:29:41

the divine energy because what you're 02:29:43

the divine energy because what you're doing is simply defending yourself so 02:29:43

doing is simply defending yourself so 02:29:48

doing is simply defending yourself so then the principle is the more you'll 02:29:48

then the principle is the more you'll 02:29:49

then the principle is the more you'll give it away the more it comes back now 02:29:49

give it away the more it comes back now 02:29:54

give it away the more it comes back now you say I don't have the courage to give 02:29:54

you say I don't have the courage to give 02:29:55

you say I don't have the courage to give it away I'm afraid 02:29:55

02:30:03

and you could only overcome that by 02:30:03

and you could only overcome that by 02:30:05

and you could only overcome that by realizing you better give it away 02:30:05

realizing you better give it away 02:30:08

realizing you better give it away because there's no way of holding on to 02:30:08

because there's no way of holding on to 02:30:09

because there's no way of holding on to it the meaning of the fact you see that 02:30:09

it the meaning of the fact you see that 02:30:14

it the meaning of the fact you see that everything is dissolving constantly that 02:30:14

everything is dissolving constantly that 02:30:16

everything is dissolving constantly that we're all falling apart and we're all in 02:30:16

we're all falling apart and we're all in 02:30:18

we're all falling apart and we're all in a process of constant death and that the 02:30:18

a process of constant death and that the 02:30:22

a process of constant death and that the world we hope men set their hearts upon 02:30:22

world we hope men set their hearts upon 02:30:23

world we hope men set their hearts upon turns Ashleigh's or it prospers and 02:30:23

turns Ashleigh's or it prospers and 02:30:25

turns Ashleigh's or it prospers and likes snow upon the deserts dusty face 02:30:25

likes snow upon the deserts dusty face 02:30:27

likes snow upon the deserts dusty face lighting a little hour to its dawn you 02:30:27

lighting a little hour to its dawn you 02:30:29

lighting a little hour to its dawn you know all that Omar Khayyam jazz you know 02:30:29

know all that Omar Khayyam jazz you know 02:30:35

know all that Omar Khayyam jazz you know the cloud-capped towers the gorgeous 02:30:35

the cloud-capped towers the gorgeous 02:30:36

the cloud-capped towers the gorgeous palaces the great globe itself I all 02:30:36

palaces the great globe itself I all 02:30:39

palaces the great globe itself I all which it inherit shall dissolve and like 02:30:39

which it inherit shall dissolve and like 02:30:41

which it inherit shall dissolve and like this insubstantial pageant faded leave 02:30:41

this insubstantial pageant faded leave 02:30:43

this insubstantial pageant faded leave not a rack behind or falling apart 02:30:43

not a rack behind or falling apart 02:30:46

not a rack behind or falling apart everything is that's the the great 02:30:46

everything is that's the the great 02:30:49

everything is that's the the great assistance to you be that that fact that 02:30:49

assistance to you be that that fact that 02:30:52

assistance to you be that that fact that everything is in decay is your helper 02:30:52

everything is in decay is your helper 02:30:55

everything is in decay is your helper that is allowing you that you don't have 02:30:55

that is allowing you that you don't have 02:30:59

that is allowing you that you don't have to let go because there's nothing to 02:30:59

to let go because there's nothing to 02:31:03

to let go because there's nothing to hold on to it it's achieved for you in 02:31:03

hold on to it it's achieved for you in 02:31:07

hold on to it it's achieved for you in other words by the process of nature so 02:31:07

other words by the process of nature so 02:31:11

other words by the process of nature so once you see that you just don't have a 02:31:11

once you see that you just don't have a 02:31:13

once you see that you just don't have a prayer and it's all washed up and that 02:31:13

prayer and it's all washed up and that 02:31:17

prayer and it's all washed up and that you will vanish and leave not a rack 02:31:17

you will vanish and leave not a rack 02:31:19

you will vanish and leave not a rack behind and you really get with that 02:31:19

behind and you really get with that 02:31:24

behind and you really get with that suddenly you find you have the power 02:31:24

suddenly you find you have the power 02:31:27

suddenly you find you have the power this enormous access of energy but it's 02:31:27

this enormous access of energy but it's 02:31:32

this enormous access of energy but it's not power that came to you because you 02:31:32

not power that came to you because you 02:31:35

not power that came to you because you grabbed it came in entirely the opposite 02:31:35

grabbed it came in entirely the opposite 02:31:38

grabbed it came in entirely the opposite way and power comes to you in that 02:31:38

way and power comes to you in that 02:31:41

way and power comes to you in that opposite way it's power with which you 02:31:41

opposite way it's power with which you 02:31:46

opposite way it's power with which you can be trusted 02:31:46

02:31:49

of course what we've been talking about 02:31:49

of course what we've been talking about 02:31:53

of course what we've been talking about is not so much a set of ideas as an 02:31:53

is not so much a set of ideas as an 02:31:58

is not so much a set of ideas as an experience or shall we say experiencing 02:31:58

experience or shall we say experiencing 02:32:02

experience or shall we say experiencing and this kind of seminar in comparison 02:32:02

and this kind of seminar in comparison 02:32:10

and this kind of seminar in comparison with the encounter groups or workshops 02:32:10

with the encounter groups or workshops 02:32:14

with the encounter groups or workshops of various kinds or experiments in 02:32:14

of various kinds or experiments in 02:32:17

of various kinds or experiments in sensory awareness is now being called a 02:32:17

sensory awareness is now being called a 02:32:20

sensory awareness is now being called a conceptual seminar although I'm not 02:32:20

conceptual seminar although I'm not 02:32:26

conceptual seminar although I'm not talking about concepts but the crucial 02:32:26

talking about concepts but the crucial 02:32:34

talking about concepts but the crucial question arises that an understanding a 02:32:34

question arises that an understanding a 02:32:42

question arises that an understanding a real feeling understanding of the polar 02:32:42

real feeling understanding of the polar 02:32:46

real feeling understanding of the polar relationship between the individual and 02:32:46

relationship between the individual and 02:32:49

relationship between the individual and the world is something that operates as 02:32:49

the world is something that operates as 02:32:54

the world is something that operates as we say in your bones and isn't just a 02:32:54

we say in your bones and isn't just a 02:33:01

we say in your bones and isn't just a view that you hold or a belief that you 02:33:01

view that you hold or a belief that you 02:33:03

view that you hold or a belief that you hold it's so curious that the emphasis 02:33:03

hold it's so curious that the emphasis 02:33:09

hold it's so curious that the emphasis of the Western tradition in religion is 02:33:09

of the Western tradition in religion is 02:33:13

of the Western tradition in religion is primarily upon right belief do you 02:33:13

primarily upon right belief do you 02:33:18

primarily upon right belief do you believe in the right dogmas and the 02:33:18

believe in the right dogmas and the 02:33:21

believe in the right dogmas and the right doctrines and only secondarily 02:33:21

right doctrines and only secondarily 02:33:26

right doctrines and only secondarily upon right action because what you 02:33:26

upon right action because what you 02:33:31

upon right action because what you believe is in Christianity at any rate 02:33:31

believe is in Christianity at any rate 02:33:34

believe is in Christianity at any rate far more important than what you do 02:33:34

far more important than what you do 02:33:37

far more important than what you do because one is saved through faith not 02:33:37

because one is saved through faith not 02:33:40

because one is saved through faith not by works and early in its history the 02:33:40

by works and early in its history the 02:33:46

by works and early in its history the Christian Church rejected the movement 02:33:46

Christian Church rejected the movement 02:33:50

Christian Church rejected the movement in the church which had been known as 02:33:50

in the church which had been known as 02:33:51

in the church which had been known as canastas ISM from the Greek gnosis which 02:33:51

canastas ISM from the Greek gnosis which 02:33:56

canastas ISM from the Greek gnosis which means knowledge and in a way there were 02:33:56

means knowledge and in a way there were 02:34:00

means knowledge and in a way there were some sound reasons for doing so 02:34:00

some sound reasons for doing so 02:34:04

some sound reasons for doing so because the ganache sticks were what I 02:34:04

because the ganache sticks were what I 02:34:09

because the ganache sticks were what I would call anti materialists they 02:34:09

would call anti materialists they 02:34:13

would call anti materialists they divided human beings into three classes 02:34:13

divided human beings into three classes 02:34:15

divided human beings into three classes that were called respectively pneumatic 02:34:15

that were called respectively pneumatic 02:34:21

that were called respectively pneumatic psychic and Halleck last one being h yl 02:34:22

psychic and Halleck last one being h yl 02:34:28

psychic and Halleck last one being h yl i see from the greek highly or they 02:34:28

i see from the greek highly or they 02:34:33

i see from the greek highly or they would call it now la e li meaning wood 02:34:33

would call it now la e li meaning wood 02:34:38

would call it now la e li meaning wood so the people were spiritual 02:34:38

so the people were spiritual 02:34:43

so the people were spiritual psychological and wooden and that is to 02:34:43

psychological and wooden and that is to 02:34:50

psychological and wooden and that is to say the wooden people were those most 02:34:50

say the wooden people were those most 02:34:53

say the wooden people were those most absorbed in materiality and most closely 02:34:53

absorbed in materiality and most closely 02:34:56

absorbed in materiality and most closely identified with their bodies and 02:34:56

02:35:02

orthodox christianity rejected this sort 02:35:02

orthodox christianity rejected this sort 02:35:05

orthodox christianity rejected this sort of distinction because of the perfectly 02:35:05

of distinction because of the perfectly 02:35:10

of distinction because of the perfectly correct idea that material existence is 02:35:10

correct idea that material existence is 02:35:16

correct idea that material existence is not inconsistent with spirituality this 02:35:16

not inconsistent with spirituality this 02:35:21

not inconsistent with spirituality this is something which most Christians have 02:35:21

is something which most Christians have 02:35:22

is something which most Christians have forgotten but they do believe as the 02:35:22

forgotten but they do believe as the 02:35:26

forgotten but they do believe as the central principle of Christianity in 02:35:26

central principle of Christianity in 02:35:29

central principle of Christianity in what's called the Incarnation that in 02:35:29

what's called the Incarnation that in 02:35:33

what's called the Incarnation that in the Jesus of Nazareth Almighty God did 02:35:33

the Jesus of Nazareth Almighty God did 02:35:37

the Jesus of Nazareth Almighty God did in fact become material become human 02:35:37

in fact become material become human 02:35:40

in fact become material become human and by this process initiated a 02:35:40

and by this process initiated a 02:35:45

and by this process initiated a transformation of the cosmos in the 02:35:45

transformation of the cosmos in the 02:35:50

transformation of the cosmos in the words of Saint Athanasius God became man 02:35:50

words of Saint Athanasius God became man 02:35:53

words of Saint Athanasius God became man that man might become God and you don't 02:35:53

that man might become God and you don't 02:35:57

that man might become God and you don't hear that from the pulpit very often the 02:35:57

hear that from the pulpit very often the 02:36:03

hear that from the pulpit very often the Christian Church therefore emphasized 02:36:03

Christian Church therefore emphasized 02:36:06

Christian Church therefore emphasized pista soar faith as against gnosis or 02:36:06

pista soar faith as against gnosis or 02:36:09

pista soar faith as against gnosis or knowledge 02:36:09

02:36:12

because they said you can never know God 02:36:12

because they said you can never know God 02:36:18

because they said you can never know God God could never become an object of 02:36:18

God could never become an object of 02:36:20

God could never become an object of knowledge and in this funny roundabout 02:36:20

knowledge and in this funny roundabout 02:36:27

knowledge and in this funny roundabout way the Christian theologians were 02:36:27

way the Christian theologians were 02:36:30

way the Christian theologians were saying exactly the same thing as the 02:36:30

saying exactly the same thing as the 02:36:32

saying exactly the same thing as the Hindus only the Hindus who do call this 02:36:32

Hindus only the Hindus who do call this 02:36:41

Hindus only the Hindus who do call this knowledge of God through faith 02:36:41

knowledge of God through faith 02:36:44

knowledge of God through faith they call it jnana which is the same as 02:36:44

they call it jnana which is the same as 02:36:47

they call it jnana which is the same as the Greek word gnosis but just to give 02:36:47

the Greek word gnosis but just to give 02:36:52

the Greek word gnosis but just to give you a little sidelight on how words get 02:36:52

you a little sidelight on how words get 02:36:54

you a little sidelight on how words get mixed up in their meanings we now have a 02:36:54

mixed up in their meanings we now have a 02:36:57

mixed up in their meanings we now have a class of person called an agnostic and 02:36:57

class of person called an agnostic and 02:37:01

class of person called an agnostic and an agnostic generally means a person who 02:37:01

an agnostic generally means a person who 02:37:05

an agnostic generally means a person who doesn't commit himself to any beliefs 02:37:05

doesn't commit himself to any beliefs 02:37:08

doesn't commit himself to any beliefs about the ultimate nature of things he 02:37:08

about the ultimate nature of things he 02:37:11

about the ultimate nature of things he just says he doesn't know about the 02:37:11

just says he doesn't know about the 02:37:15

just says he doesn't know about the original word agnosia in greek meant a 02:37:15

original word agnosia in greek meant a 02:37:21

original word agnosia in greek meant a special kind of knowledge it was called 02:37:21

special kind of knowledge it was called 02:37:25

special kind of knowledge it was called the dark knowledge of God the knowledge 02:37:25

the dark knowledge of God the knowledge 02:37:28

the dark knowledge of God the knowledge of God in the Cloud of Unknowing to use 02:37:28

of God in the Cloud of Unknowing to use 02:37:31

of God in the Cloud of Unknowing to use the title of a mystical treatise written 02:37:31

the title of a mystical treatise written 02:37:34

the title of a mystical treatise written by an anonymous 14th century English 02:37:34

by an anonymous 14th century English 02:37:36

by an anonymous 14th century English monk this monk derived his ideas from a 02:37:36

monk this monk derived his ideas from a 02:37:41

monk this monk derived his ideas from a very mysterious figure who wrote under 02:37:41

very mysterious figure who wrote under 02:37:44

very mysterious figure who wrote under the name of dionysius the areopagite 02:37:44

02:37:49

Dionysus was a 5th or 6th century 02:37:49

Dionysus was a 5th or 6th century 02:37:54

Dionysus was a 5th or 6th century Syrian monk who had learned his 02:37:54

Syrian monk who had learned his 02:37:58

Syrian monk who had learned his mysticism from porphyry 02:37:58

mysticism from porphyry 02:38:00

mysticism from porphyry who got it from plutinos who was a 02:38:00

who got it from plutinos who was a 02:38:04

who got it from plutinos who was a neoplatonist and who probably got a 02:38:04

neoplatonist and who probably got a 02:38:08

neoplatonist and who probably got a great deal of stimulation from the 02:38:08

great deal of stimulation from the 02:38:13

great deal of stimulation from the intellectual world of Alexandria and 02:38:13

intellectual world of Alexandria and 02:38:16

intellectual world of Alexandria and Alexandria in the early years of the 02:38:16

Alexandria in the early years of the 02:38:19

Alexandria in the early years of the Christian era was a tremendous exchange 02:38:19

Christian era was a tremendous exchange 02:38:23

Christian era was a tremendous exchange place between east and west 02:38:23

02:38:27

Buddhist monks visited Alexandria it was 02:38:27

Buddhist monks visited Alexandria it was 02:38:31

Buddhist monks visited Alexandria it was one of the great centers of trade 02:38:31

one of the great centers of trade 02:38:33

one of the great centers of trade between Rome and India and as you may 02:38:33

between Rome and India and as you may 02:38:37

between Rome and India and as you may know all Rome's gold eventually went to 02:38:37

know all Rome's gold eventually went to 02:38:41

know all Rome's gold eventually went to India for the purchase of pepper and as 02:38:41

India for the purchase of pepper and as 02:38:46

India for the purchase of pepper and as a result of this the Roman economy 02:38:46

a result of this the Roman economy 02:38:48

a result of this the Roman economy collapsed they bought too much luxury 02:38:48

collapsed they bought too much luxury 02:38:51

collapsed they bought too much luxury from India India in exchange got Roman 02:38:51

from India India in exchange got Roman 02:38:55

from India India in exchange got Roman architecture and you'll see a lot of 02:38:55

architecture and you'll see a lot of 02:38:59

architecture and you'll see a lot of Roman architecture in Indian temples but 02:38:59

Roman architecture in Indian temples but 02:39:06

Roman architecture in Indian temples but Alexandria was the great Center for the 02:39:06

Alexandria was the great Center for the 02:39:10

Alexandria was the great Center for the Gnostics and for Christian theology and 02:39:10

Gnostics and for Christian theology and 02:39:13

Gnostics and for Christian theology and some of the greatest theologians Clement 02:39:13

some of the greatest theologians Clement 02:39:16

some of the greatest theologians Clement Origen Athanasius Saint Cyril all worked 02:39:16

Origen Athanasius Saint Cyril all worked 02:39:22

Origen Athanasius Saint Cyril all worked out of Alexandria we're now going back 02:39:22

out of Alexandria we're now going back 02:39:26

out of Alexandria we're now going back to this strange mount Dionysus 02:39:26

02:39:31

it was he who first put around the idea 02:39:31

it was he who first put around the idea 02:39:35

it was he who first put around the idea in Christian circles that there was such 02:39:35

in Christian circles that there was such 02:39:39

in Christian circles that there was such a thing of the knowledge as the 02:39:39

a thing of the knowledge as the 02:39:40

a thing of the knowledge as the knowledge of God by faith by agnosia 02:39:40

knowledge of God by faith by agnosia 02:39:45

knowledge of God by faith by agnosia really by unknowing and he in a book 02:39:45

really by unknowing and he in a book 02:39:50

really by unknowing and he in a book which he wrote very short book called 02:39:50

which he wrote very short book called 02:39:52

which he wrote very short book called the theologian Mystica he wrote a 02:39:52

the theologian Mystica he wrote a 02:39:55

the theologian Mystica he wrote a treatise on the higher knowledge of God 02:39:55

treatise on the higher knowledge of God 02:39:59

treatise on the higher knowledge of God which might be quoted directly from the 02:39:59

which might be quoted directly from the 02:40:02

which might be quoted directly from the Upanishads in certain parts of it the 02:40:02

Upanishads in certain parts of it the 02:40:06

Upanishads in certain parts of it the last section of it reads like the man do 02:40:06

last section of it reads like the man do 02:40:08

last section of it reads like the man do kill punish honor because it's a series 02:40:08

kill punish honor because it's a series 02:40:11

kill punish honor because it's a series of negations it says what God is not and 02:40:11

of negations it says what God is not and 02:40:16

of negations it says what God is not and he goes very far because he says that 02:40:16

he goes very far because he says that 02:40:19

he goes very far because he says that God is not one he says our idea of unity 02:40:19

God is not one he says our idea of unity 02:40:25

God is not one he says our idea of unity falls far short of what God is so does 02:40:25

falls far short of what God is so does 02:40:29

falls far short of what God is so does our idea of Trinity so does our idea of 02:40:29

our idea of Trinity so does our idea of 02:40:32

our idea of Trinity so does our idea of spirit our idea of mind of justice of 02:40:33

spirit our idea of mind of justice of 02:40:36

spirit our idea of mind of justice of love all these things 02:40:36

love all these things 02:40:38

love all these things ah not really God and he says in another 02:40:38

ah not really God and he says in another 02:40:43

ah not really God and he says in another place if anybody having seen God 02:40:43

place if anybody having seen God 02:40:46

place if anybody having seen God understood what he had seen what he 02:40:46

understood what he had seen what he 02:40:48

understood what he had seen what he would have seen would not have been God 02:40:48

would have seen would not have been God 02:40:50

would have seen would not have been God but some creature of God less than God 02:40:50

but some creature of God less than God 02:40:53

but some creature of God less than God some sort of angel or something like 02:40:53

some sort of angel or something like 02:40:54

some sort of angel or something like that it's perfectly amazing to consider 02:40:55

that it's perfectly amazing to consider 02:41:02

that it's perfectly amazing to consider the influence that this man had for 02:41:02

the influence that this man had for 02:41:05

the influence that this man had for writing under the name of dionysius the 02:41:05

writing under the name of dionysius the 02:41:07

writing under the name of dionysius the areopagite he became identified you see 02:41:07

areopagite he became identified you see 02:41:10

areopagite he became identified you see with Saint Paul's first convert in 02:41:10

with Saint Paul's first convert in 02:41:12

with Saint Paul's first convert in Athens and legend has it that he was the 02:41:12

Athens and legend has it that he was the 02:41:16

Athens and legend has it that he was the first bishop of Athens and was martyred 02:41:16

first bishop of Athens and was martyred 02:41:18

first bishop of Athens and was martyred in Gaul now where he's known as some 02:41:18

in Gaul now where he's known as some 02:41:21

in Gaul now where he's known as some Denis but some Thomas Aquinas looked 02:41:21

Denis but some Thomas Aquinas looked 02:41:27

Denis but some Thomas Aquinas looked upon the writings of dionysius the 02:41:27

upon the writings of dionysius the 02:41:29

upon the writings of dionysius the areopagite as having the highest 02:41:29

areopagite as having the highest 02:41:31

areopagite as having the highest authority and you could if all the texts 02:41:31

authority and you could if all the texts 02:41:34

authority and you could if all the texts of Dionysus his work had been lost 02:41:34

of Dionysus his work had been lost 02:41:36

of Dionysus his work had been lost you could restore most of it from 02:41:36

you could restore most of it from 02:41:38

you could restore most of it from quotations in some Thomas he wrote 02:41:38

quotations in some Thomas he wrote 02:41:44

quotations in some Thomas he wrote really two very important books one was 02:41:44

really two very important books one was 02:41:47

really two very important books one was the one I said the theologian estiga the 02:41:47

the one I said the theologian estiga the 02:41:51

the one I said the theologian estiga the other was called the divine names and 02:41:51

other was called the divine names and 02:41:53

other was called the divine names and these two books presented the two phases 02:41:53

these two books presented the two phases 02:41:56

these two books presented the two phases of his theology the book called the 02:41:56

of his theology the book called the 02:41:59

of his theology the book called the divine names was a discussion on the 02:41:59

divine names was a discussion on the 02:42:01

divine names was a discussion on the nature of God in terms of what God is 02:42:01

nature of God in terms of what God is 02:42:05

nature of God in terms of what God is like by analogy and this kind of 02:42:05

like by analogy and this kind of 02:42:10

like by analogy and this kind of knowledge of God he called cata fatik 02:42:10

knowledge of God he called cata fatik 02:42:14

knowledge of God he called cata fatik from the Greek 02:42:14

from the Greek 02:42:15

from the Greek Femi to speak or say Qatar meaning to 02:42:15

Femi to speak or say Qatar meaning to 02:42:19

Femi to speak or say Qatar meaning to say according to that is to say to speak 02:42:19

say according to that is to say to speak 02:42:22

say according to that is to say to speak by analogy where he used though entirely 02:42:22

by analogy where he used though entirely 02:42:26

by analogy where he used though entirely negative language about God this sort of 02:42:26

negative language about God this sort of 02:42:29

negative language about God this sort of discourse was called a prophetic and the 02:42:29

discourse was called a prophetic and the 02:42:33

discourse was called a prophetic and the word appo meaning away from to talk away 02:42:33

word appo meaning away from to talk away 02:42:36

word appo meaning away from to talk away from just as a sculptor when he makes an 02:42:36

from just as a sculptor when he makes an 02:42:39

from just as a sculptor when he makes an image reveals the image by removing 02:42:39

image reveals the image by removing 02:42:44

image reveals the image by removing stone and so darn Isis explained that 02:42:44

stone and so darn Isis explained that 02:42:48

stone and so darn Isis explained that one attains the knowledge of God by 02:42:48

one attains the knowledge of God by 02:42:52

one attains the knowledge of God by discarding concepts which is exactly 02:42:52

discarding concepts which is exactly 02:42:56

discarding concepts which is exactly what the Hindus mean when they say of 02:42:56

what the Hindus mean when they say of 02:42:59

what the Hindus mean when they say of God one can only say neti neti not this 02:42:59

God one can only say neti neti not this 02:43:03

God one can only say neti neti not this not this not any conception 02:43:03

not this not any conception 02:43:06

not this not any conception thus in Hindu philosophy the highest 02:43:06

thus in Hindu philosophy the highest 02:43:09

thus in Hindu philosophy the highest state of consciousness in Samadhi is 02:43:09

state of consciousness in Samadhi is 02:43:12

state of consciousness in Samadhi is called near vikalpa Samadhi which means 02:43:12

called near vikalpa Samadhi which means 02:43:15

called near vikalpa Samadhi which means literally non-conceptual vikalpa means a 02:43:15

literally non-conceptual vikalpa means a 02:43:20

literally non-conceptual vikalpa means a concept near is a negation so the non 02:43:20

concept near is a negation so the non 02:43:23

concept near is a negation so the non conceptual knowledge now people have 02:43:23

conceptual knowledge now people have 02:43:27

conceptual knowledge now people have greatly misunderstood this they have 02:43:27

greatly misunderstood this they have 02:43:31

greatly misunderstood this they have imagined that unknowing the state of the 02:43:31

imagined that unknowing the state of the 02:43:34

imagined that unknowing the state of the highest contemplation was the 02:43:34

highest contemplation was the 02:43:37

highest contemplation was the acquisition of a blank mind from which 02:43:37

acquisition of a blank mind from which 02:43:42

acquisition of a blank mind from which you first discarded thought you went on 02:43:42

you first discarded thought you went on 02:43:46

you first discarded thought you went on to discard perception he went on to 02:43:46

to discard perception he went on to 02:43:49

to discard perception he went on to discard any kind of sensory content in 02:43:49

discard any kind of sensory content in 02:43:55

discard any kind of sensory content in awareness until you were so far as 02:43:55

awareness until you were so far as 02:43:59

awareness until you were so far as anyone could say aware of nothing and 02:43:59

anyone could say aware of nothing and 02:44:03

anyone could say aware of nothing and they supposed that this kind of 02:44:03

they supposed that this kind of 02:44:07

they supposed that this kind of catatonic state was mystical 02:44:07

catatonic state was mystical 02:44:10

catatonic state was mystical consciousness this is often believed in 02:44:10

consciousness this is often believed in 02:44:15

consciousness this is often believed in India if you go to the Vedanta Society 02:44:15

India if you go to the Vedanta Society 02:44:19

India if you go to the Vedanta Society and asked what do you mean by nearly 02:44:19

and asked what do you mean by nearly 02:44:21

and asked what do you mean by nearly Kalpa Samadhi they will tell you that 02:44:21

Kalpa Samadhi they will tell you that 02:44:24

Kalpa Samadhi they will tell you that the one in that state has no 02:44:24

the one in that state has no 02:44:27

the one in that state has no consciousness whatsoever of the sensory 02:44:27

consciousness whatsoever of the sensory 02:44:29

consciousness whatsoever of the sensory world that he is completely absorbed as 02:44:29

world that he is completely absorbed as 02:44:33

world that he is completely absorbed as you sometimes see Hindu holy men sitting 02:44:33

you sometimes see Hindu holy men sitting 02:44:37

you sometimes see Hindu holy men sitting in a state where they are blind and deaf 02:44:37

in a state where they are blind and deaf 02:44:41

in a state where they are blind and deaf to everything going on around them the 02:44:41

to everything going on around them the 02:44:48

to everything going on around them the founder of Chinese then known as way 02:44:48

founder of Chinese then known as way 02:44:53

founder of Chinese then known as way none described people like that as no 02:44:53

none described people like that as no 02:44:57

none described people like that as no better than pieces of rock and lumps of 02:44:57

better than pieces of rock and lumps of 02:44:58

better than pieces of rock and lumps of wood he said it's a very serious mistake 02:44:58

wood he said it's a very serious mistake 02:45:02

wood he said it's a very serious mistake indeed to confuse 02:45:02

indeed to confuse 02:45:05

indeed to confuse Tsun yatta the sanskrit word for the 02:45:05

Tsun yatta the sanskrit word for the 02:45:08

Tsun yatta the sanskrit word for the great void which is both the ultimate 02:45:08

great void which is both the ultimate 02:45:12

great void which is both the ultimate reality and the consciousness thereof it 02:45:13

reality and the consciousness thereof it 02:45:16

reality and the consciousness thereof it is a great mistake to confuse it with 02:45:16

is a great mistake to confuse it with 02:45:17

is a great mistake to confuse it with nothingness it is rather to be thought 02:45:17

nothingness it is rather to be thought 02:45:21

nothingness it is rather to be thought of as space or like space because space 02:45:21

of as space or like space because space 02:45:25

of as space or like space because space is not empty it contains the whole 02:45:25

is not empty it contains the whole 02:45:29

is not empty it contains the whole universe and so in the same way the 02:45:29

universe and so in the same way the 02:45:32

universe and so in the same way the State of Mind of a person who is truly 02:45:32

State of Mind of a person who is truly 02:45:34

State of Mind of a person who is truly enlightened is not empty it contains 02:45:34

enlightened is not empty it contains 02:45:40

enlightened is not empty it contains everything but like space it is not 02:45:40

everything but like space it is not 02:45:48

everything but like space it is not stained by what it contains and it's 02:45:48

stained by what it contains and it's 02:45:52

stained by what it contains and it's often said in Zen imagery you can't 02:45:52

often said in Zen imagery you can't 02:45:54

often said in Zen imagery you can't hammer a nail into space you can't spit 02:45:54

hammer a nail into space you can't spit 02:45:58

hammer a nail into space you can't spit on the sky and salat if you try the spit 02:45:58

on the sky and salat if you try the spit 02:46:02

on the sky and salat if you try the spit will just return and hit your own face 02:46:02

will just return and hit your own face 02:46:06

will just return and hit your own face so they go on to say the consciousness 02:46:06

so they go on to say the consciousness 02:46:08

so they go on to say the consciousness in all of us your basic mind is like 02:46:08

in all of us your basic mind is like 02:46:12

in all of us your basic mind is like space it is completely pure but of 02:46:12

space it is completely pure but of 02:46:16

space it is completely pure but of course by purity they don't mean 02:46:16

02:46:20

unsexual which is of course what purity 02:46:20

unsexual which is of course what purity 02:46:24

unsexual which is of course what purity generally means in the Western world 02:46:24

generally means in the Western world 02:46:27

generally means in the Western world blessed are the pure in heart for they 02:46:27

blessed are the pure in heart for they 02:46:29

blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God 02:46:29

shall see God 02:46:30

shall see God a person who's pure in heart has 02:46:30

a person who's pure in heart has 02:46:33

a person who's pure in heart has generally understood as one who never 02:46:33

generally understood as one who never 02:46:34

generally understood as one who never has any naughty thoughts you know what 02:46:34

has any naughty thoughts you know what 02:46:39

has any naughty thoughts you know what naughty means means vain negative empty 02:46:39

naughty means means vain negative empty 02:46:46

naughty means means vain negative empty a naughty person therefore is one who 02:46:46

a naughty person therefore is one who 02:46:50

a naughty person therefore is one who doesn't amount to anything was just 02:46:50

doesn't amount to anything was just 02:46:51

doesn't amount to anything was just nothing that's the real meaning but this 02:46:51

nothing that's the real meaning but this 02:47:01

nothing that's the real meaning but this misunderstanding of the nature of 02:47:01

misunderstanding of the nature of 02:47:03

misunderstanding of the nature of contemplation existed not only in India 02:47:03

contemplation existed not only in India 02:47:08

contemplation existed not only in India from which it was transmitted to China 02:47:08

from which it was transmitted to China 02:47:10

from which it was transmitted to China but also in the West you read many 02:47:10

but also in the West you read many 02:47:14

but also in the West you read many treatises on Western mysticism 02:47:14

treatises on Western mysticism 02:47:17

treatises on Western mysticism and the still feeling that getting into 02:47:17

and the still feeling that getting into 02:47:19

and the still feeling that getting into a deep deep trance sometimes called 02:47:19

a deep deep trance sometimes called 02:47:23

a deep deep trance sometimes called rapture again the word rapture has 02:47:23

rapture again the word rapture has 02:47:28

rapture again the word rapture has undergone some transformations we talked 02:47:28

undergone some transformations we talked 02:47:31

undergone some transformations we talked about rapture as people being beside 02:47:31

about rapture as people being beside 02:47:34

about rapture as people being beside themselves with pleasure but to be 02:47:34

themselves with pleasure but to be 02:47:37

themselves with pleasure but to be wrapped means to be taken away from the 02:47:37

wrapped means to be taken away from the 02:47:41

wrapped means to be taken away from the body so also ecstasy we now interpret as 02:47:41

body so also ecstasy we now interpret as 02:47:46

body so also ecstasy we now interpret as meaning in a state of high pleasure but 02:47:46

meaning in a state of high pleasure but 02:47:49

meaning in a state of high pleasure but it means to be outside yourself to stand 02:47:49

it means to be outside yourself to stand 02:47:52

it means to be outside yourself to stand outside yourself your soul has left you 02:47:52

outside yourself your soul has left you 02:47:54

outside yourself your soul has left you it is with God as Arabs say of all crazy 02:47:54

it is with God as Arabs say of all crazy 02:47:57

it is with God as Arabs say of all crazy people be kind to them they are not here 02:47:58

people be kind to them they are not here 02:48:00

people be kind to them they are not here their soul is with God but actually if 02:48:00

their soul is with God but actually if 02:48:08

their soul is with God but actually if it can be true as Buddhists say that 02:48:08

it can be true as Buddhists say that 02:48:11

it can be true as Buddhists say that Nirvana and sansara are one and if it 02:48:11

Nirvana and sansara are one and if it 02:48:16

Nirvana and sansara are one and if it can be true as Christians say that the 02:48:16

can be true as Christians say that the 02:48:18

can be true as Christians say that the spirit can be made flesh the word can be 02:48:18

spirit can be made flesh the word can be 02:48:22

spirit can be made flesh the word can be made flesh then obviously the highest 02:48:22

made flesh then obviously the highest 02:48:25

made flesh then obviously the highest form of man is not sitting in a trance 02:48:25

form of man is not sitting in a trance 02:48:28

form of man is not sitting in a trance like a lump on a log with a perfectly 02:48:28

like a lump on a log with a perfectly 02:48:31

like a lump on a log with a perfectly blank mind because if that were the 02:48:31

blank mind because if that were the 02:48:35

blank mind because if that were the highest state of consciousness it would 02:48:35

highest state of consciousness it would 02:48:38

highest state of consciousness it would be an exclusive state of mind a state of 02:48:38

be an exclusive state of mind a state of 02:48:42

be an exclusive state of mind a state of mind that shuts out life and in that 02:48:42

mind that shuts out life and in that 02:48:46

mind that shuts out life and in that sense it could not qualify for being 02:48:46

sense it could not qualify for being 02:48:48

sense it could not qualify for being what the Hindus call non-dualistic they 02:48:48

what the Hindus call non-dualistic they 02:48:52

what the Hindus call non-dualistic they always speak of the highest reality as 02:48:52

always speak of the highest reality as 02:48:54

always speak of the highest reality as being not one because one excludes many 02:48:54

being not one because one excludes many 02:48:58

being not one because one excludes many not nothing because nothing excludes 02:48:58

not nothing because nothing excludes 02:49:01

not nothing because nothing excludes something not being because being 02:49:01

something not being because being 02:49:04

something not being because being excludes non being and vice versa and so 02:49:04

excludes non being and vice versa and so 02:49:07

excludes non being and vice versa and so they use this word non dual to mean that 02:49:07

they use this word non dual to mean that 02:49:10

they use this word non dual to mean that which doesn't exclude anything which has 02:49:10

which doesn't exclude anything which has 02:49:13

which doesn't exclude anything which has it were has no outside as we say space 02:49:13

it were has no outside as we say space 02:49:17

it were has no outside as we say space has no outside you can only have 02:49:17

has no outside you can only have 02:49:19

has no outside you can only have outsides inside space you can't have any 02:49:19

outsides inside space you can't have any 02:49:23

outsides inside space you can't have any outsides outside space there is no 02:49:23

outsides outside space there is no 02:49:24

outsides outside space there is no outside space even though space may be 02:49:24

outside space even though space may be 02:49:27

outside space even though space may be curved and finite 02:49:27

02:49:34

so if you want to think incidentally of 02:49:34

so if you want to think incidentally of 02:49:38

so if you want to think incidentally of that curved space go and take a look at 02:49:38

that curved space go and take a look at 02:49:42

that curved space go and take a look at photograph in the life a book on 02:49:42

photograph in the life a book on 02:49:47

photograph in the life a book on mathematics well there's a picture of a 02:49:47

mathematics well there's a picture of a 02:49:49

mathematics well there's a picture of a klein bottle which is a 02:49:49

klein bottle which is a 02:49:52

klein bottle which is a three-dimensional mobius strip there 02:49:52

three-dimensional mobius strip there 02:49:55

three-dimensional mobius strip there might be a strip you know is a piece of 02:49:55

might be a strip you know is a piece of 02:49:57

might be a strip you know is a piece of paper that is twisted once and then 02:49:57

paper that is twisted once and then 02:49:58

paper that is twisted once and then joined and it has only one side and only 02:49:58

joined and it has only one side and only 02:50:01

joined and it has only one side and only one edge 02:50:01

one edge 02:50:02

one edge now our Klein bottle is a 02:50:02

now our Klein bottle is a 02:50:04

now our Klein bottle is a three-dimensional mobius strip and it 02:50:04

three-dimensional mobius strip and it 02:50:07

three-dimensional mobius strip and it only has one inside it has no outside 02:50:07

only has one inside it has no outside 02:50:09

only has one inside it has no outside you can say it has an inside and no 02:50:09

you can say it has an inside and no 02:50:11

you can say it has an inside and no outside or it has an outside and no 02:50:11

outside or it has an outside and no 02:50:12

outside or it has an outside and no inside it's a fabulous little little 02:50:12

inside it's a fabulous little little 02:50:15

inside it's a fabulous little little trick but there's something like that 02:50:15

trick but there's something like that 02:50:17

trick but there's something like that would be the nature of space as that 02:50:17

would be the nature of space as that 02:50:20

would be the nature of space as that which does indeed trail and transcend 02:50:20

which does indeed trail and transcend 02:50:22

which does indeed trail and transcend the opposites mm not quite now we'd have 02:50:22

the opposites mm not quite now we'd have 02:50:29

the opposites mm not quite now we'd have to do one extra move on a serpent to 02:50:29

to do one extra move on a serpent to 02:50:31

to do one extra move on a serpent to make it into a Klein bottle you'd have 02:50:31

make it into a Klein bottle you'd have 02:50:35

make it into a Klein bottle you'd have to tuck its head through the ins through 02:50:35

to tuck its head through the ins through 02:50:38

to tuck its head through the ins through the side of its skin and make the 02:50:38

the side of its skin and make the 02:50:42

the side of its skin and make the aperture through the mouth continuous 02:50:42

aperture through the mouth continuous 02:50:46

aperture through the mouth continuous with the inside of the serpent towards 02:50:46

with the inside of the serpent towards 02:50:49

with the inside of the serpent towards the tail you see that's more or less my 02:50:49

the tail you see that's more or less my 02:50:52

the tail you see that's more or less my bottle is so what I'm getting to I'm 02:50:52

bottle is so what I'm getting to I'm 02:51:00

bottle is so what I'm getting to I'm giving you something out of the general 02:51:00

giving you something out of the general 02:51:03

giving you something out of the general history of religions to show that what 02:51:03

history of religions to show that what 02:51:07

history of religions to show that what has been meant by the mystical state the 02:51:07

has been meant by the mystical state the 02:51:10

has been meant by the mystical state the state of Samadhi or 02:51:10

state of Samadhi or 02:51:12

state of Samadhi or awakening in certain traditions is not 02:51:12

awakening in certain traditions is not 02:51:17

awakening in certain traditions is not this state of trance about a state of 02:51:17

this state of trance about a state of 02:51:21

this state of trance about a state of consciousness in which you can perfectly 02:51:21

consciousness in which you can perfectly 02:51:22

consciousness in which you can perfectly well carry on your daily affairs and of 02:51:22

well carry on your daily affairs and of 02:51:26

well carry on your daily affairs and of course what is meant by a bodhisattva as 02:51:26

course what is meant by a bodhisattva as 02:51:28

course what is meant by a bodhisattva as the ideal type of Buddhist person is 02:51:28

the ideal type of Buddhist person is 02:51:33

the ideal type of Buddhist person is that he is not wrapped that he is 02:51:33

that he is not wrapped that he is 02:51:37

that he is not wrapped that he is actively engaged in the life of the 02:51:37

actively engaged in the life of the 02:51:40

actively engaged in the life of the world because he has gone beyond the 02:51:40

world because he has gone beyond the 02:51:42

world because he has gone beyond the illusion 02:51:42

illusion 02:51:43

illusion that nirvana is to be found away from 02:51:43

that nirvana is to be found away from 02:51:46

that nirvana is to be found away from everyday life so what is then the point 02:51:46

everyday life so what is then the point 02:51:51

everyday life so what is then the point of meditation 02:51:51

of meditation 02:51:53

of meditation why meditate why do you have to crawl 02:51:53

why meditate why do you have to crawl 02:51:55

why meditate why do you have to crawl off into a hole or go to a Zen monastery 02:51:55

off into a hole or go to a Zen monastery 02:51:59

off into a hole or go to a Zen monastery or retire and be quiet when this is only 02:51:59

or retire and be quiet when this is only 02:52:04

or retire and be quiet when this is only a withdrawal is there anything to be 02:52:04

a withdrawal is there anything to be 02:52:08

a withdrawal is there anything to be said for it our meditation is in there 02:52:08

said for it our meditation is in there 02:52:14

said for it our meditation is in there in that sense as a practice as a 02:52:14

in that sense as a practice as a 02:52:16

in that sense as a practice as a discipline is a very curious problem 02:52:16

discipline is a very curious problem 02:52:19

discipline is a very curious problem because from one point of view it's a 02:52:19

because from one point of view it's a 02:52:21

because from one point of view it's a help and from another point of view a 02:52:21

help and from another point of view a 02:52:24

help and from another point of view a hindrance and I think we have to 02:52:24

hindrance and I think we have to 02:52:28

hindrance and I think we have to understand first of all that meditation 02:52:28

understand first of all that meditation 02:52:30

understand first of all that meditation exercises are medicinal rather than 02:52:30

exercises are medicinal rather than 02:52:33

exercises are medicinal rather than dietary the same could be said of LSD a 02:52:33

dietary the same could be said of LSD a 02:52:39

dietary the same could be said of LSD a medicine not a diet something that is 02:52:39

medicine not a diet something that is 02:52:43

medicine not a diet something that is described in Zen as when you want to 02:52:44

described in Zen as when you want to 02:52:47

described in Zen as when you want to open a door or summon someone to open 02:52:47

open a door or summon someone to open 02:52:50

open a door or summon someone to open the door for you you pick up a brick and 02:52:50

the door for you you pick up a brick and 02:52:51

the door for you you pick up a brick and you knock on the door but you don't 02:52:51

you knock on the door but you don't 02:52:53

you knock on the door but you don't carry the brick into the house when you 02:52:53

carry the brick into the house when you 02:52:57

carry the brick into the house when you need a raft for crossing a stream you 02:52:57

need a raft for crossing a stream you 02:52:59

need a raft for crossing a stream you cross the stream on the raft but you 02:52:59

cross the stream on the raft but you 02:53:01

cross the stream on the raft but you leave the Ralphs on the bank at the 02:53:01

leave the Ralphs on the bank at the 02:53:02

leave the Ralphs on the bank at the other side you don't go carrying it 02:53:02

other side you don't go carrying it 02:53:04

other side you don't go carrying it around but a lot of people when they get 02:53:04

around but a lot of people when they get 02:53:08

around but a lot of people when they get into meditation or they get into 02:53:08

into meditation or they get into 02:53:10

into meditation or they get into religion or into any kind of exploration 02:53:10

religion or into any kind of exploration 02:53:15

religion or into any kind of exploration of this sort turn the door into a 02:53:15

of this sort turn the door into a 02:53:18

of this sort turn the door into a revolving door and keep on going round 02:53:18

revolving door and keep on going round 02:53:21

revolving door and keep on going round and round and round and never get 02:53:21

and round and round and never get 02:53:23

and round and round and never get through they say what a gasp it is to be 02:53:23

through they say what a gasp it is to be 02:53:25

through they say what a gasp it is to be in this revolving door it's attending a 02:53:25

in this revolving door it's attending a 02:53:27

in this revolving door it's attending a good definition of a parasite is the 02:53:27

good definition of a parasite is the 02:53:29

good definition of a parasite is the person who goes through a revolving door 02:53:29

person who goes through a revolving door 02:53:30

person who goes through a revolving door on someone else's push 02:53:30

on someone else's push 02:53:32

on someone else's push [Laughter] 02:53:32

[Laughter] 02:53:36

[Laughter] so there are all sorts of people in the 02:53:36

so there are all sorts of people in the 02:53:39

so there are all sorts of people in the religious racket who are going through 02:53:39

religious racket who are going through 02:53:43

religious racket who are going through revolving doors and they're very bitter 02:53:43

revolving doors and they're very bitter 02:53:46

revolving doors and they're very bitter about people who walk right through and 02:53:46

about people who walk right through and 02:53:48

about people who walk right through and leave the door behind because they say 02:53:48

leave the door behind because they say 02:53:50

leave the door behind because they say well you haven't paid enough respect you 02:53:50

well you haven't paid enough respect you 02:53:52

well you haven't paid enough respect you must really understand religious 02:53:52

must really understand religious 02:53:54

must really understand religious one-upmanship it's a tremendously 02:53:54

one-upmanship it's a tremendously 02:53:56

one-upmanship it's a tremendously important thing and don't be caught out 02:53:56

important thing and don't be caught out 02:54:00

important thing and don't be caught out by this because what happens is there's 02:54:00

by this because what happens is there's 02:54:03

by this because what happens is there's a little game going on which I'm going 02:54:03

a little game going on which I'm going 02:54:04

a little game going on which I'm going to initiate you into and it's played in 02:54:04

to initiate you into and it's played in 02:54:07

to initiate you into and it's played in Zen which is it works like this if you 02:54:07

Zen which is it works like this if you 02:54:18

Zen which is it works like this if you go to a teacher and ask for rich 02:54:18

go to a teacher and ask for rich 02:54:21

go to a teacher and ask for rich spiritual instruction or even if you 02:54:21

spiritual instruction or even if you 02:54:24

spiritual instruction or even if you come to a seminar like this you are by 02:54:24

come to a seminar like this you are by 02:54:29

come to a seminar like this you are by doing that confusing yourself because 02:54:29

doing that confusing yourself because 02:54:35

doing that confusing yourself because you are looking for what you're asking 02:54:35

you are looking for what you're asking 02:54:36

you are looking for what you're asking for outside as if someone else could 02:54:36

for outside as if someone else could 02:54:39

for outside as if someone else could give it to you as if you didn't have it 02:54:39

give it to you as if you didn't have it 02:54:41

give it to you as if you didn't have it so the teacher knows that as long as you 02:54:41

so the teacher knows that as long as you 02:54:46

so the teacher knows that as long as you do that you haven't understood but he 02:54:46

do that you haven't understood but he 02:54:53

do that you haven't understood but he doesn't just tell you to go away we may 02:54:53

doesn't just tell you to go away we may 02:54:57

doesn't just tell you to go away we may sometimes just say go away I'm too busy 02:54:57

sometimes just say go away I'm too busy 02:55:00

sometimes just say go away I'm too busy and I'm any in any case I can't tell you 02:55:00

and I'm any in any case I can't tell you 02:55:03

and I'm any in any case I can't tell you anything well people won't take that for 02:55:03

anything well people won't take that for 02:55:07

anything well people won't take that for an answer they won't take no for an 02:55:07

an answer they won't take no for an 02:55:09

an answer they won't take no for an answer 02:55:09

02:55:11

and furthermore if he just said go away 02:55:11

and furthermore if he just said go away 02:55:15

and furthermore if he just said go away they would just find some other teacher 02:55:15

they would just find some other teacher 02:55:17

they would just find some other teacher who would exploit them and maybe keep 02:55:17

who would exploit them and maybe keep 02:55:21

who would exploit them and maybe keep them as followers for years and acquire 02:55:21

them as followers for years and acquire 02:55:24

them as followers for years and acquire a great deal of money by so doing what 02:55:24

a great deal of money by so doing what 02:55:28

a great deal of money by so doing what he does is another thing he tries to 02:55:28

he does is another thing he tries to 02:55:36

he does is another thing he tries to give them the put down as if to say 02:55:36

02:55:42

you have a great long distance to go yet 02:55:42

02:55:47

your attainment is not at all perfect 02:55:47

your attainment is not at all perfect 02:55:52

your attainment is not at all perfect and where are they they're always 02:55:52

and where are they they're always 02:55:57

and where are they they're always talking about other sects and other 02:55:57

talking about other sects and other 02:55:58

talking about other sects and other schools and saying well they haven't 02:55:58

schools and saying well they haven't 02:56:00

schools and saying well they haven't really got the point you see so that you 02:56:00

really got the point you see so that you 02:56:05

really got the point you see so that you keep losing faith in yourself and 02:56:05

keep losing faith in yourself and 02:56:08

keep losing faith in yourself and feeling my goodness I haven't yet 02:56:08

feeling my goodness I haven't yet 02:56:12

feeling my goodness I haven't yet attained this thing and that keeps you 02:56:12

attained this thing and that keeps you 02:56:16

attained this thing and that keeps you working not all the time 02:56:16

working not all the time 02:56:20

working not all the time you're being talked out it's like 02:56:20

you're being talked out it's like 02:56:23

you're being talked out it's like someone who's a pickpocket and he's 02:56:23

someone who's a pickpocket and he's 02:56:25

someone who's a pickpocket and he's stolen your own watch and is selling it 02:56:25

stolen your own watch and is selling it 02:56:28

stolen your own watch and is selling it to you but just so long as you can be 02:56:28

to you but just so long as you can be 02:56:34

to you but just so long as you can be talked out of yourself you deserve to be 02:56:35

talked out of yourself you deserve to be 02:56:38

talked out of yourself you deserve to be [Laughter] 02:56:38

[Laughter] 02:57:00

[Laughter] now you become very aware of this if you 02:57:00

now you become very aware of this if you 02:57:05

now you become very aware of this if you ever do momentarily slip into some sort 02:57:05

ever do momentarily slip into some sort 02:57:09

ever do momentarily slip into some sort of a mystical experience you become 02:57:09

of a mystical experience you become 02:57:12

of a mystical experience you become aware of this tremendous gamesmanship 02:57:12

aware of this tremendous gamesmanship 02:57:16

aware of this tremendous gamesmanship going on and you see it is sort of 02:57:16

going on and you see it is sort of 02:57:19

going on and you see it is sort of continuous with with all sorts of cosmic 02:57:19

continuous with with all sorts of cosmic 02:57:21

continuous with with all sorts of cosmic games that are going on of creatures 02:57:21

games that are going on of creatures 02:57:25

games that are going on of creatures eating other creatures up and the 02:57:25

eating other creatures up and the 02:57:28

eating other creatures up and the creatures that get eaten 02:57:28

creatures that get eaten 02:57:29

creatures that get eaten of course transform themselves into the 02:57:29

of course transform themselves into the 02:57:31

of course transform themselves into the creatures that eat them and then in turn 02:57:31

creatures that eat them and then in turn 02:57:33

creatures that eat them and then in turn eat other creatures and that you you see 02:57:33

eat other creatures and that you you see 02:57:37

eat other creatures and that you you see the whole hide-and-seek game going on 02:57:37

the whole hide-and-seek game going on 02:57:39

the whole hide-and-seek game going on and then you realize very clearly that 02:57:39

and then you realize very clearly that 02:57:42

and then you realize very clearly that the state of development that you are in 02:57:42

the state of development that you are in 02:57:44

the state of development that you are in now is no better and no worse than 02:57:44

now is no better and no worse than 02:57:50

now is no better and no worse than anybody else's state because it's like 02:57:50

anybody else's state because it's like 02:57:55

anybody else's state because it's like space again which planet is an or which 02:57:55

space again which planet is an or which 02:58:00

space again which planet is an or which star is in the best position well it's 02:58:00

star is in the best position well it's 02:58:05

star is in the best position well it's all equal they're all in the middle 02:58:05

all equal they're all in the middle 02:58:09

all equal they're all in the middle anyone can be considered as the center 02:58:09

anyone can be considered as the center 02:58:11

anyone can be considered as the center one any point on a sphere is the center 02:58:11

one any point on a sphere is the center 02:58:16

one any point on a sphere is the center of the surface of the sphere so you know 02:58:16

of the surface of the sphere so you know 02:58:21

of the surface of the sphere so you know that in the same way everybody in all 02:58:21

that in the same way everybody in all 02:58:24

that in the same way everybody in all his behavior whatever he's doing whether 02:58:24

his behavior whatever he's doing whether 02:58:26

his behavior whatever he's doing whether we call him from a certain point of view 02:58:26

we call him from a certain point of view 02:58:28

we call him from a certain point of view sick or whether we call him healthy 02:58:28

sick or whether we call him healthy 02:58:30

sick or whether we call him healthy whether we call him good or bad neurotic 02:58:30

whether we call him good or bad neurotic 02:58:33

whether we call him good or bad neurotic normal psychotic saying all the 02:58:33

normal psychotic saying all the 02:58:38

normal psychotic saying all the manifestations are just like the leaves 02:58:38

manifestations are just like the leaves 02:58:40

manifestations are just like the leaves on the trees and in each being in a 02:58:40

on the trees and in each being in a 02:58:48

on the trees and in each being in a unique way is as Christians would say 02:58:48

unique way is as Christians would say 02:58:52

unique way is as Christians would say manifesting the will of God so there 02:58:52

manifesting the will of God so there 02:59:01

manifesting the will of God so there really it from that point of view there 02:59:01

really it from that point of view there 02:59:05

really it from that point of view there is nothing to do to attain Buddhahood 02:59:05

is nothing to do to attain Buddhahood 02:59:10

is nothing to do to attain Buddhahood nothing at all but you see that's very 02:59:10

nothing at all but you see that's very 02:59:15

nothing at all but you see that's very difficult to understand because a lot of 02:59:15

difficult to understand because a lot of 02:59:17

difficult to understand because a lot of people when they hear that there's 02:59:17

people when they hear that there's 02:59:19

people when they hear that there's nothing to do try to do nothing and you 02:59:19

nothing to do try to do nothing and you 02:59:24

nothing to do try to do nothing and you can't because you are karma and karma 02:59:24

can't because you are karma and karma 02:59:29

can't because you are karma and karma means action you can't do nothing but 02:59:29

02:59:35

the thing you're looking for or think 02:59:35

the thing you're looking for or think 02:59:39

the thing you're looking for or think you're looking for is what you're doing 02:59:39

you're looking for is what you're doing 02:59:43

you're looking for is what you're doing is what's called you only of course as 02:59:43

is what's called you only of course as 02:59:47

is what's called you only of course as we all know we've got ourselves into the 02:59:47

we all know we've got ourselves into the 02:59:51

we all know we've got ourselves into the idea that oneself is so difficult to see 02:59:51

02:59:57

because it's like as I've often said 02:59:57

because it's like as I've often said 03:00:00

because it's like as I've often said trying to bite your own teeth or look 03:00:00

trying to bite your own teeth or look 03:00:01

trying to bite your own teeth or look into your own eyes and you can't find it 03:00:01

into your own eyes and you can't find it 03:00:05

into your own eyes and you can't find it it's always behind 03:00:05

it's always behind 03:00:08

it's always behind it's like your head is from the Optical 03:00:08

it's like your head is from the Optical 03:00:11

it's like your head is from the Optical point of view a blank space 03:00:11

point of view a blank space 03:00:14

point of view a blank space neither la in light nor dark it's right 03:00:14

neither la in light nor dark it's right 03:00:17

neither la in light nor dark it's right in the middle of everything and so one 03:00:17

in the middle of everything and so one 03:00:22

in the middle of everything and so one of the great tricks of gurus is to set 03:00:22

of the great tricks of gurus is to set 03:00:25

of the great tricks of gurus is to set people looking for their heads there's a 03:00:25

people looking for their heads there's a 03:00:28

people looking for their heads there's a famous story of a king in India and 03:00:28

famous story of a king in India and 03:00:31

famous story of a king in India and ancient times called yojna Dutta and one 03:00:31

ancient times called yojna Dutta and one 03:00:34

ancient times called yojna Dutta and one morning he woke up and reached out for 03:00:34

morning he woke up and reached out for 03:00:36

morning he woke up and reached out for his mirror and brought it over no head 03:00:36

his mirror and brought it over no head 03:00:41

his mirror and brought it over no head he was looking in the wrong side of the 03:00:41

he was looking in the wrong side of the 03:00:43

he was looking in the wrong side of the mirror you know he was kind of 03:00:43

mirror you know he was kind of 03:00:46

mirror you know he was kind of bleary-eyed and had a hangover so he 03:00:46

bleary-eyed and had a hangover so he 03:00:49

bleary-eyed and had a hangover so he summoned servants and said he gods I've 03:00:49

summoned servants and said he gods I've 03:00:52

summoned servants and said he gods I've lost my head find it and they said but 03:00:52

lost my head find it and they said but 03:00:56

lost my head find it and they said but your majesty it's there on your 03:00:56

your majesty it's there on your 03:00:57

your majesty it's there on your shoulders he said it is not I can't see 03:00:57

shoulders he said it is not I can't see 03:00:59

shoulders he said it is not I can't see it in the mirror nobody can show me my 03:00:59

it in the mirror nobody can show me my 03:01:01

it in the mirror nobody can show me my head so they were rushing all over the 03:01:01

head so they were rushing all over the 03:01:02

head so they were rushing all over the place looking for the head now the trick 03:01:02

place looking for the head now the trick 03:01:07

place looking for the head now the trick to that is of course that you are 03:01:07

to that is of course that you are 03:01:11

to that is of course that you are perfectly well aware of your head only 03:01:11

perfectly well aware of your head only 03:01:14

perfectly well aware of your head only not in a form in which you expect to be 03:01:14

not in a form in which you expect to be 03:01:15

not in a form in which you expect to be aware of it you expect to be aware of 03:01:15

aware of it you expect to be aware of 03:01:21

aware of it you expect to be aware of your own head in the same way as you're 03:01:21

your own head in the same way as you're 03:01:22

your own head in the same way as you're aware of other people's heads but that 03:01:22

aware of other people's heads but that 03:01:25

aware of other people's heads but that wouldn't be true of you because you've 03:01:25

wouldn't be true of you because you've 03:01:27

wouldn't be true of you because you've got an inside view on your head you have 03:01:27

got an inside view on your head you have 03:01:31

got an inside view on your head you have an outside view one of other people's 03:01:31

an outside view one of other people's 03:01:32

an outside view one of other people's heads because of course you're taking an 03:01:33

heads because of course you're taking an 03:01:35

heads because of course you're taking an inside point of view but the way in 03:01:35

inside point of view but the way in 03:01:38

inside point of view but the way in which you are aware of your head is in 03:01:38

which you are aware of your head is in 03:01:42

which you are aware of your head is in terms of what you are seeing and hearing 03:01:42

terms of what you are seeing and hearing 03:01:45

terms of what you are seeing and hearing because all sites and all sounds are 03:01:45

because all sites and all sounds are 03:01:49

because all sites and all sounds are what the nerves inside your head are 03:01:49

what the nerves inside your head are 03:01:51

what the nerves inside your head are doing that's how to be aware of one's 03:01:51

doing that's how to be aware of one's 03:01:55

doing that's how to be aware of one's head you are aware therefore of yourself 03:01:55

head you are aware therefore of yourself 03:01:58

head you are aware therefore of yourself the mysterious self that you have in 03:01:58

the mysterious self that you have in 03:02:01

the mysterious self that you have in terms of experience because there isn't 03:02:01

terms of experience because there isn't 03:02:06

terms of experience because there isn't really any difference but that always 03:02:06

really any difference but that always 03:02:11

really any difference but that always escapes people you see so perpetually so 03:02:11

escapes people you see so perpetually so 03:02:15

escapes people you see so perpetually so long as you don't understand that you 03:02:15

long as you don't understand that you 03:02:18

long as you don't understand that you can be talked into going onto all kinds 03:02:18

can be talked into going onto all kinds 03:02:21

can be talked into going onto all kinds of 03:02:21

of 03:02:21

of excursions and just so long as you 03:02:21

excursions and just so long as you 03:02:25

excursions and just so long as you believe it you're a sucker you're hooked 03:02:25

believe it you're a sucker you're hooked 03:02:29

believe it you're a sucker you're hooked and it takes a tremendous inner 03:02:29

and it takes a tremendous inner 03:02:34

and it takes a tremendous inner confidence and nerve finally to say I 03:02:34

confidence and nerve finally to say I 03:02:40

confidence and nerve finally to say I mean it don't pull that stunt on me 03:02:40

mean it don't pull that stunt on me 03:02:42

mean it don't pull that stunt on me anymore I I see through your game and 03:02:42

03:02:52

because guru's a very clever at putting 03:02:52

because guru's a very clever at putting 03:02:57

because guru's a very clever at putting you down but they're just trying to see 03:02:57

you down but they're just trying to see 03:02:59

you down but they're just trying to see how strong you are testing you out see 03:02:59

how strong you are testing you out see 03:03:04

how strong you are testing you out see if they can hoodwink you so long as they 03:03:04

if they can hoodwink you so long as they 03:03:06

if they can hoodwink you so long as they can you see they're gonna go on doing it 03:03:06

can you see they're gonna go on doing it 03:03:08

can you see they're gonna go on doing it because they've got to get you to the 03:03:08

because they've got to get you to the 03:03:09

because they've got to get you to the point where they can't do it to you 03:03:09

point where they can't do it to you 03:03:10

point where they can't do it to you anymore 03:03:10

anymore 03:03:11

anymore then they'll graduate and so one of RINs 03:03:11

then they'll graduate and so one of RINs 03:03:21

then they'll graduate and so one of RINs i's students after he saw through it 03:03:21

i's students after he saw through it 03:03:25

i's students after he saw through it said well it wasn't much in rin sized 03:03:25

said well it wasn't much in rin sized 03:03:27

said well it wasn't much in rin sized buddhism after all 03:03:27

buddhism after all 03:03:29

buddhism after all of course there wasn't he said boldly 03:03:29

of course there wasn't he said boldly 03:03:32

of course there wasn't he said boldly and straight out my teaching is just 03:03:32

and straight out my teaching is just 03:03:36

and straight out my teaching is just like using an empty fist to deceive a 03:03:36

like using an empty fist to deceive a 03:03:38

like using an empty fist to deceive a child you know when you play games with 03:03:38

child you know when you play games with 03:03:41

child you know when you play games with a child and pretend you've got something 03:03:41

a child and pretend you've got something 03:03:42

a child and pretend you've got something here and the child goes into all kinds 03:03:42

here and the child goes into all kinds 03:03:45

here and the child goes into all kinds of tizzy to get you to open your hand 03:03:45

of tizzy to get you to open your hand 03:03:47

of tizzy to get you to open your hand and show what it is and then there's 03:03:47

and show what it is and then there's 03:03:48

and show what it is and then there's nothing fooled see you so you can be 03:03:48

nothing fooled see you so you can be 03:03:54

nothing fooled see you so you can be fooled as long as you can be fooled when 03:03:54

fooled as long as you can be fooled when 03:03:59

fooled as long as you can be fooled when you can't be fooled you don't ask the 03:03:59

you can't be fooled you don't ask the 03:04:02

you can't be fooled you don't ask the question anymore because it's all become 03:04:02

question anymore because it's all become 03:04:06

question anymore because it's all become clearer it's all become clear that there 03:04:06

clearer it's all become clear that there 03:04:08

clearer it's all become clear that there is no puzzle about this universe what 03:04:08

is no puzzle about this universe what 03:04:13

is no puzzle about this universe what makes you think the Rapunzel out this 03:04:13

makes you think the Rapunzel out this 03:04:15

makes you think the Rapunzel out this universe very simple reason you're 03:04:15

universe very simple reason you're 03:04:18

universe very simple reason you're trying to explain it and when you 03:04:18

trying to explain it and when you 03:04:23

trying to explain it and when you explain things what you would what do 03:04:23

explain things what you would what do 03:04:24

explain things what you would what do you mean by explanation 03:04:24

03:04:28

there are several meanings of 03:04:28

there are several meanings of 03:04:30

there are several meanings of explanation there's really one basic 03:04:30

explanation there's really one basic 03:04:32

explanation there's really one basic meaning but first of all to be able to 03:04:32

meaning but first of all to be able to 03:04:35

meaning but first of all to be able to translate what is happening in terms of 03:04:35

translate what is happening in terms of 03:04:37

translate what is happening in terms of words or numbers in other words to 03:04:37

words or numbers in other words to 03:04:41

words or numbers in other words to describe but a real explanation is not 03:04:41

describe but a real explanation is not 03:04:45

describe but a real explanation is not just the description 03:04:45

just the description 03:04:47

just the description it's the description which enables us to 03:04:47

it's the description which enables us to 03:04:50

it's the description which enables us to control what we are describing but 03:04:50

control what we are describing but 03:04:55

control what we are describing but didn't we see in the last session that 03:04:55

didn't we see in the last session that 03:04:59

didn't we see in the last session that to control the world is not really what 03:04:59

to control the world is not really what 03:05:01

to control the world is not really what we want to do so that if all 03:05:01

we want to do so that if all 03:05:08

we want to do so that if all explanations have as their function 03:05:08

explanations have as their function 03:05:10

explanations have as their function enabling us to control things then maybe 03:05:10

enabling us to control things then maybe 03:05:14

enabling us to control things then maybe an explanation isn't what we wanted and 03:05:14

an explanation isn't what we wanted and 03:05:20

an explanation isn't what we wanted and furthermore you can very simply see that 03:05:20

furthermore you can very simply see that 03:05:23

furthermore you can very simply see that what makes things complicated is 03:05:24

what makes things complicated is 03:05:25

what makes things complicated is explaining them when somebody explains 03:05:25

explaining them when somebody explains 03:05:28

explaining them when somebody explains to you how a flower works and he's a 03:05:28

to you how a flower works and he's a 03:05:31

to you how a flower works and he's a great botanist and analyzes all the 03:05:31

great botanist and analyzes all the 03:05:33

great botanist and analyzes all the innards of a flower and shows the 03:05:33

innards of a flower and shows the 03:05:34

innards of a flower and shows the channels the fibers the processes of 03:05:34

channels the fibers the processes of 03:05:37

channels the fibers the processes of reproduction and so on that go on in it 03:05:37

reproduction and so on that go on in it 03:05:40

reproduction and so on that go on in it everybody stands fascinated see how 03:05:40

everybody stands fascinated see how 03:05:44

everybody stands fascinated see how complicated that is how clever God must 03:05:44

complicated that is how clever God must 03:05:46

complicated that is how clever God must have been to create that flower to have 03:05:46

have been to create that flower to have 03:05:49

have been to create that flower to have all that complexity going it seemed 03:05:49

all that complexity going it seemed 03:05:51

all that complexity going it seemed complicated at all it's only complicated 03:05:51

complicated at all it's only complicated 03:05:54

complicated at all it's only complicated when you start thinking about because 03:05:54

when you start thinking about because 03:05:57

when you start thinking about because the vehicle of words is a very clumsy 03:05:57

the vehicle of words is a very clumsy 03:06:02

the vehicle of words is a very clumsy one and when you try to talk about the 03:06:02

one and when you try to talk about the 03:06:05

one and when you try to talk about the processes of nature what is complicated 03:06:05

processes of nature what is complicated 03:06:07

processes of nature what is complicated is not the processes of nature but 03:06:07

is not the processes of nature but 03:06:09

is not the processes of nature but trying to put them into words that's as 03:06:09

trying to put them into words that's as 03:06:12

trying to put them into words that's as complicated as trying to drink up the 03:06:12

complicated as trying to drink up the 03:06:14

complicated as trying to drink up the ocean with a fork takes forever and so 03:06:14

ocean with a fork takes forever and so 03:06:20

ocean with a fork takes forever and so this intense complexity that we see in 03:06:20

this intense complexity that we see in 03:06:21

this intense complexity that we see in everything is created by our attempt to 03:06:21

everything is created by our attempt to 03:06:26

everything is created by our attempt to analyze it all and so what we do is you 03:06:26

analyze it all and so what we do is you 03:06:31

analyze it all and so what we do is you see when we analyze we use our eyes and 03:06:31

see when we analyze we use our eyes and 03:06:34

see when we analyze we use our eyes and ears as sculptors and we dissect 03:06:34

ears as sculptors and we dissect 03:06:38

ears as sculptors and we dissect everything 03:06:38

everything 03:06:39

everything and we have to put a label on every 03:06:39

and we have to put a label on every 03:06:42

and we have to put a label on every piece we chop off and so we scalpel eyes 03:06:42

piece we chop off and so we scalpel eyes 03:06:48

piece we chop off and so we scalpel eyes and we get it right down to atoms 03:06:48

and we get it right down to atoms 03:06:50

and we get it right down to atoms getting finer and finer and we suddenly 03:06:50

getting finer and finer and we suddenly 03:06:52

getting finer and finer and we suddenly thought well we've got to the end of it 03:06:52

thought well we've got to the end of it 03:06:54

thought well we've got to the end of it because the word atom means what is not 03:06:54

because the word atom means what is not 03:06:55

because the word atom means what is not cuttable are Thomas but any family could 03:06:55

cuttable are Thomas but any family could 03:07:00

cuttable are Thomas but any family could cut the atom and lo and behold big fleas 03:07:00

cut the atom and lo and behold big fleas 03:07:03

cut the atom and lo and behold big fleas had little fleas upon their backs to buy 03:07:03

had little fleas upon their backs to buy 03:07:05

had little fleas upon their backs to buy them and it goes on forever there is no 03:07:05

them and it goes on forever there is no 03:07:09

them and it goes on forever there is no end to the my Newton s which you can 03:07:09

end to the my Newton s which you can 03:07:12

end to the my Newton s which you can unveil through physical investigation 03:07:12

unveil through physical investigation 03:07:14

unveil through physical investigation for the simple reason that the 03:07:14

for the simple reason that the 03:07:16

for the simple reason that the investigation itself is what is chopping 03:07:16

investigation itself is what is chopping 03:07:18

investigation itself is what is chopping things into pieces and the sharper you 03:07:18

things into pieces and the sharper you 03:07:22

things into pieces and the sharper you can sharpen your knife the finer you can 03:07:22

can sharpen your knife the finer you can 03:07:25

can sharpen your knife the finer you can cut it and the knife of the intellect is 03:07:25

cut it and the knife of the intellect is 03:07:29

cut it and the knife of the intellect is very sharp indeed and the sophisticated 03:07:29

very sharp indeed and the sophisticated 03:07:32

very sharp indeed and the sophisticated instruments that we can now make that 03:07:32

instruments that we can now make that 03:07:35

instruments that we can now make that was probably no limit to it but in a way 03:07:35

was probably no limit to it but in a way 03:07:43

was probably no limit to it but in a way all that is vain knowledge in a way 03:07:43

all that is vain knowledge in a way 03:07:50

all that is vain knowledge in a way because you see it what it does is it 03:07:50

because you see it what it does is it 03:07:53

because you see it what it does is it gives you the illusion but you've solved 03:07:53

gives you the illusion but you've solved 03:07:54

gives you the illusion but you've solved your problem when you have control 03:07:54

your problem when you have control 03:07:57

your problem when you have control certain things and you have solved 03:07:57

certain things and you have solved 03:07:59

certain things and you have solved certain problems practical problems 03:07:59

certain problems practical problems 03:08:02

certain problems practical problems you say fine more of that please 03:08:02

you say fine more of that please 03:08:06

you say fine more of that please let's go on solving problems and then 03:08:06

let's go on solving problems and then 03:08:10

let's go on solving problems and then you do and you create a world of people 03:08:10

you do and you create a world of people 03:08:13

you do and you create a world of people as we are today far more comfortable 03:08:13

as we are today far more comfortable 03:08:17

as we are today far more comfortable than people who lived in the 19th 03:08:17

than people who lived in the 19th 03:08:18

than people who lived in the 19th century just remember the troubles of 03:08:18

century just remember the troubles of 03:08:24

century just remember the troubles of going to a dentist when you were 03:08:24

going to a dentist when you were 03:08:25

going to a dentist when you were children or some of you when you were 03:08:25

children or some of you when you were 03:08:27

children or some of you when you were children of medicine of badly heated 03:08:27

children of medicine of badly heated 03:08:34

children of medicine of badly heated homes of all sorts of things that we 03:08:34

homes of all sorts of things that we 03:08:37

homes of all sorts of things that we don't put up with anymore but the 03:08:37

don't put up with anymore but the 03:08:40

don't put up with anymore but the problem is we keep running into this 03:08:40

problem is we keep running into this 03:08:42

problem is we keep running into this thing that all constant stimulations of 03:08:42

thing that all constant stimulations of 03:08:46

thing that all constant stimulations of consciousness become unconscious and 03:08:46

consciousness become unconscious and 03:08:49

consciousness become unconscious and when we take it as a matter of course 03:08:49

when we take it as a matter of course 03:08:52

when we take it as a matter of course have certain comforts then we switch the 03:08:52

have certain comforts then we switch the 03:08:55

have certain comforts then we switch the level on which we worry when you solve a 03:08:55

level on which we worry when you solve a 03:09:01

level on which we worry when you solve a whole set of problems people find new 03:09:01

whole set of problems people find new 03:09:04

whole set of problems people find new ones to worry about and after a while 03:09:04

ones to worry about and after a while 03:09:07

ones to worry about and after a while you begin to get that haven't we been 03:09:07

you begin to get that haven't we been 03:09:09

you begin to get that haven't we been here before feeling aren't we just going 03:09:09

here before feeling aren't we just going 03:09:13

here before feeling aren't we just going round on a cycle and doing the same old 03:09:13

round on a cycle and doing the same old 03:09:16

round on a cycle and doing the same old thing over and over and over again 03:09:16

thing over and over and over again 03:09:18

thing over and over and over again because we don't realize that we're take 03:09:18

because we don't realize that we're take 03:09:21

because we don't realize that we're take chasing our own tails by an eternally 03:09:21

chasing our own tails by an eternally 03:09:30

chasing our own tails by an eternally recurrent process of not knowing who you 03:09:30

recurrent process of not knowing who you 03:09:35

recurrent process of not knowing who you are 03:09:35

are 03:09:36

are that is the hide-and-seek that is the 03:09:36

that is the hide-and-seek that is the 03:09:39

that is the hide-and-seek that is the nature of what the hindus call the 03:09:39

nature of what the hindus call the 03:09:42

nature of what the hindus call the manvantara and the pralaya the period of 03:09:42

manvantara and the pralaya the period of 03:09:47

manvantara and the pralaya the period of the man mantra in which the worlds are 03:09:47

the man mantra in which the worlds are 03:09:48

the man mantra in which the worlds are manifested and the period of the pralaya 03:09:48

manifested and the period of the pralaya 03:09:50

manifested and the period of the pralaya in which the worlds are withdrawn from 03:09:50

in which the worlds are withdrawn from 03:09:53

in which the worlds are withdrawn from manifestation in and out in and out 03:09:53

manifestation in and out in and out 03:09:57

manifestation in and out in and out evermore came out by the same door as in 03:09:57

evermore came out by the same door as in 03:10:00

evermore came out by the same door as in I went the thing is to get to the point 03:10:00

I went the thing is to get to the point 03:10:04

I went the thing is to get to the point where you can see that you are doing 03:10:04

where you can see that you are doing 03:10:06

where you can see that you are doing that in every moment of your existence 03:10:06

that in every moment of your existence 03:10:11

that in every moment of your existence with every tiny little atom of your body 03:10:11

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you now at this minute you see are the 03:10:17

you now at this minute you see are the 03:10:23

you now at this minute you see are the whole the whole system of eating and 03:10:23

whole the whole system of eating and 03:10:30

whole the whole system of eating and having 03:10:30

having 03:10:31

having in other words you often think perhaps 03:10:31

in other words you often think perhaps 03:10:33

in other words you often think perhaps maybe a long long time ahead I shall 03:10:33

maybe a long long time ahead I shall 03:10:36

maybe a long long time ahead I shall reach the point where I wake up from 03:10:36

reach the point where I wake up from 03:10:39

reach the point where I wake up from manifestation and overcome the world 03:10:39

manifestation and overcome the world 03:10:42

manifestation and overcome the world illusion and discover that I am the 03:10:42

illusion and discover that I am the 03:10:45

illusion and discover that I am the supreme reality behind all this 03:10:45

supreme reality behind all this 03:10:48

supreme reality behind all this diversification my friends there is no 03:10:48

diversification my friends there is no 03:10:51

diversification my friends there is no diversification in other words what you 03:10:51

diversification in other words what you 03:10:58

diversification in other words what you call diversification is your game in the 03:10:58

call diversification is your game in the 03:11:01

call diversification is your game in the same way as you chop the thing and then 03:11:01

same way as you chop the thing and then 03:11:02

same way as you chop the thing and then you say it is made of pieces but did you 03:11:02

you say it is made of pieces but did you 03:11:06

you say it is made of pieces but did you forget that you cut it and so when you 03:11:06

forget that you cut it and so when you 03:11:09

forget that you cut it and so when you see the world is complicated and that 03:11:09

see the world is complicated and that 03:11:10

see the world is complicated and that there are life problems and that you 03:11:10

there are life problems and that you 03:11:13

there are life problems and that you might one day succeed see hundreds and 03:11:13

might one day succeed see hundreds and 03:11:17

might one day succeed see hundreds and hundreds of people are running like mad 03:11:17

hundreds of people are running like mad 03:11:18

hundreds of people are running like mad after something that they caught there 03:11:18

after something that they caught there 03:11:20

after something that they caught there is success and they have no idea what it 03:11:20

is success and they have no idea what it 03:11:22

is success and they have no idea what it is so in exactly the same way the Gullu 03:11:22

is so in exactly the same way the Gullu 03:11:27

is so in exactly the same way the Gullu is keeping you running and running after 03:11:27

is keeping you running and running after 03:11:29

is keeping you running and running after spiritual attainment you don't know what 03:11:29

spiritual attainment you don't know what 03:11:30

spiritual attainment you don't know what you want see where Krishnamurti is so 03:11:30

you want see where Krishnamurti is so 03:11:33

you want see where Krishnamurti is so clever because he says if you ask me for 03:11:33

clever because he says if you ask me for 03:11:38

clever because he says if you ask me for enlightenment how can you ask me for 03:11:38

enlightenment how can you ask me for 03:11:40

enlightenment how can you ask me for enlightenment if you don't know what it 03:11:40

enlightenment if you don't know what it 03:11:42

enlightenment if you don't know what it is how do you know you wanted 03:11:42

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is it any concept you have of it will be 03:11:45

is it any concept you have of it will be 03:11:49

is it any concept you have of it will be simply a way of trying to perpetuate the 03:11:49

simply a way of trying to perpetuate the 03:11:54

simply a way of trying to perpetuate the situation you're already in if you think 03:11:54

situation you're already in if you think 03:11:58

situation you're already in if you think you know what you're going out for all 03:11:58

you know what you're going out for all 03:12:00

you know what you're going out for all you're doing is you're seeking the past 03:12:00

you're doing is you're seeking the past 03:12:02

you're doing is you're seeking the past what you already know what you've 03:12:02

what you already know what you've 03:12:04

what you already know what you've already experienced therefore that's not 03:12:04

already experienced therefore that's not 03:12:07

already experienced therefore that's not it is it because you say you're looking 03:12:07

it is it because you say you're looking 03:12:10

it is it because you say you're looking for something quite new but what do you 03:12:10

for something quite new but what do you 03:12:15

for something quite new but what do you mean new what's your conception of 03:12:15

mean new what's your conception of 03:12:17

mean new what's your conception of something new well I figure I can only 03:12:17

something new well I figure I can only 03:12:20

something new well I figure I can only think about it in terms of something old 03:12:20

think about it in terms of something old 03:12:22

think about it in terms of something old something I once had so he doesn't say 03:12:22

something I once had so he doesn't say 03:12:28

something I once had so he doesn't say anything 03:12:28

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he doesn't indicate anything positively 03:12:31

he doesn't indicate anything positively 03:12:33

he doesn't indicate anything positively everybody says why are you so negative 03:12:33

everybody says why are you so negative 03:12:35

everybody says why are you so negative why don't you give us something to hang 03:12:35

why don't you give us something to hang 03:12:37

why don't you give us something to hang on to well if these simple answer is it 03:12:37

on to well if these simple answer is it 03:12:40

on to well if these simple answer is it wouldn't be spurious you don't need 03:12:40

wouldn't be spurious you don't need 03:12:43

wouldn't be spurious you don't need anything to hang on to your it you don't 03:12:43

anything to hang on to your it you don't 03:12:45

anything to hang on to your it you don't need a religion but then you say well 03:12:45

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well what is all this religious stuff 03:12:53

well what is all this religious stuff 03:12:56

well what is all this religious stuff about then why don't we just forget it 03:12:56

about then why don't we just forget it 03:13:00

about then why don't we just forget it you can try by all means just go away 03:13:00

you can try by all means just go away 03:13:07

you can try by all means just go away don't go to gurus don't go to church 03:13:07

don't go to gurus don't go to church 03:13:10

don't go to gurus don't go to church don't enter philosophical discussions 03:13:10

don't enter philosophical discussions 03:13:13

don't enter philosophical discussions forget it but then you'll realize that 03:13:13

forget it but then you'll realize that 03:13:19

forget it but then you'll realize that by having consented to forget it you're 03:13:19

by having consented to forget it you're 03:13:23

by having consented to forget it you're still seeking what a trap what can you 03:13:24

still seeking what a trap what can you 03:13:28

still seeking what a trap what can you do you see if you stay here and listen 03:13:28

do you see if you stay here and listen 03:13:31

do you see if you stay here and listen to me or to anyone else who comes around 03:13:31

to me or to anyone else who comes around 03:13:34

to me or to anyone else who comes around here you're fooling yourself but if you 03:13:34

here you're fooling yourself but if you 03:13:38

here you're fooling yourself but if you go away you're fooling yourself too 03:13:38

go away you're fooling yourself too 03:13:40

go away you're fooling yourself too because you still think that's going to 03:13:40

because you still think that's going to 03:13:46

because you still think that's going to improve your situation it won't and 03:13:46

improve your situation it won't and 03:13:53

improve your situation it won't and therefore when you discover that it 03:13:53

therefore when you discover that it 03:13:55

therefore when you discover that it doesn't you'll think well maybe it was a 03:13:55

doesn't you'll think well maybe it was a 03:13:56

doesn't you'll think well maybe it was a mistake to go away and you come back to 03:13:57

mistake to go away and you come back to 03:13:58

mistake to go away and you come back to the guru and he looks at you and says 03:13:58

the guru and he looks at you and says 03:14:01

the guru and he looks at you and says uh-uh-uh-uh 03:14:01

uh-uh-uh-uh 03:14:02

uh-uh-uh-uh you are very undisciplined very very 03:14:02

you are very undisciplined very very 03:14:07

you are very undisciplined very very inferior student and you you need to 03:14:07

inferior student and you you need to 03:14:12

inferior student and you you need to apply yourself well as I explained I 03:14:12

apply yourself well as I explained I 03:14:18

apply yourself well as I explained I explained what he's doing but it comes 03:14:18

explained what he's doing but it comes 03:14:23

explained what he's doing but it comes down in a way to a sort of contest with 03:14:23

down in a way to a sort of contest with 03:14:25

down in a way to a sort of contest with a guru you see will you call his bluff 03:14:25

a guru you see will you call his bluff 03:14:29

a guru you see will you call his bluff you're afraid to because you might 03:14:29

you're afraid to because you might 03:14:33

you're afraid to because you might discover that if you do call his bluff 03:14:33

discover that if you do call his bluff 03:14:34

discover that if you do call his bluff he's no better than you are that's what 03:14:34

he's no better than you are that's what 03:14:38

he's no better than you are that's what you're supposed to find out but without 03:14:38

you're supposed to find out but without 03:14:41

you're supposed to find out but without being cynical about it 03:14:41

being cynical about it 03:14:43

being cynical about it he's as divine as you are but you've got 03:14:43

he's as divine as you are but you've got 03:14:48

he's as divine as you are but you've got to call the bluff there's going to be a 03:14:48

to call the bluff there's going to be a 03:14:49

to call the bluff there's going to be a showdown and it's it's a double bind the 03:14:50

showdown and it's it's a double bind the 03:14:54

showdown and it's it's a double bind the whole situation is a double bind because 03:14:54

whole situation is a double bind because 03:14:58

whole situation is a double bind because it doesn't do any good to stay here and 03:14:58

it doesn't do any good to stay here and 03:15:00

it doesn't do any good to stay here and it doesn't do you any good to go away 03:15:00

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either to do something about it or to do 03:15:04

either to do something about it or to do 03:15:06

either to do something about it or to do nothing about it 03:15:06

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now then there's something else when you 03:15:09

now then there's something else when you 03:15:13

now then there's something else when you understand that and when you realize 03:15:13

understand that and when you realize 03:15:16

understand that and when you realize that there's nothing to realize and it's 03:15:16

that there's nothing to realize and it's 03:15:20

that there's nothing to realize and it's all here and then what are you gonna do 03:15:20

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well of course this is the sense of Zen 03:15:27

well of course this is the sense of Zen 03:15:30

well of course this is the sense of Zen poem supernatural activity and marvelous 03:15:30

poem supernatural activity and marvelous 03:15:33

poem supernatural activity and marvelous power drawing water carrying fuel no do 03:15:33

power drawing water carrying fuel no do 03:15:40

power drawing water carrying fuel no do whatever one does as a human being but 03:15:40

whatever one does as a human being but 03:15:44

whatever one does as a human being but there's a little element of philistinism 03:15:44

there's a little element of philistinism 03:15:45

there's a little element of philistinism in that it's like when a child is 03:15:45

in that it's like when a child is 03:15:48

in that it's like when a child is pestering father or mother with all 03:15:48

pestering father or mother with all 03:15:51

pestering father or mother with all sorts of questions they finally get down 03:15:51

sorts of questions they finally get down 03:15:53

sorts of questions they finally get down to the deepest metaphysical problems 03:15:53

to the deepest metaphysical problems 03:15:55

to the deepest metaphysical problems they say oh shut up and eat your 03:15:55

they say oh shut up and eat your 03:15:56

they say oh shut up and eat your doughnut and I wouldn't say that you see 03:15:56

doughnut and I wouldn't say that you see 03:16:04

doughnut and I wouldn't say that you see at this point because life as one looks 03:16:04

at this point because life as one looks 03:16:10

at this point because life as one looks at it you see is in fact a celebration 03:16:10

at it you see is in fact a celebration 03:16:12

at it you see is in fact a celebration of itself when you look out at night at 03:16:12

of itself when you look out at night at 03:16:18

of itself when you look out at night at the Stars and you really want a good God 03:16:18

the Stars and you really want a good God 03:16:20

the Stars and you really want a good God what is all that about well it's a 03:16:20

what is all that about well it's a 03:16:23

what is all that about well it's a firework display and it's celebrating 03:16:23

firework display and it's celebrating 03:16:27

firework display and it's celebrating High Holy Day its whoopee and the whole 03:16:27

High Holy Day its whoopee and the whole 03:16:33

High Holy Day its whoopee and the whole world is whoopee 03:16:33

world is whoopee 03:16:35

world is whoopee it's a kind of exuberance and therefore 03:16:35

it's a kind of exuberance and therefore 03:16:39

it's a kind of exuberance and therefore the proper function of religion is 03:16:39

the proper function of religion is 03:16:42

the proper function of religion is digging this it's not seeking it's not 03:16:42

digging this it's not seeking it's not 03:16:48

digging this it's not seeking it's not seeking anything but is in a way 03:16:48

seeking anything but is in a way 03:16:52

seeking anything but is in a way Thanksgiving that's why of course the 03:16:52

Thanksgiving that's why of course the 03:16:55

Thanksgiving that's why of course the Christians were right in calling the 03:16:55

Christians were right in calling the 03:16:57

Christians were right in calling the mass the the Eucharist the Thanksgiving 03:16:57

mass the the Eucharist the Thanksgiving 03:16:59

mass the the Eucharist the Thanksgiving only they had such a complicated way of 03:16:59

only they had such a complicated way of 03:17:02

only they had such a complicated way of thinking about it and nobody could 03:17:02

thinking about it and nobody could 03:17:03

thinking about it and nobody could understand it so they're in in religion 03:17:03

understand it so they're in in religion 03:17:09

understand it so they're in in religion or religious exercises whether they are 03:17:09

or religious exercises whether they are 03:17:13

or religious exercises whether they are meditative or whether they are 03:17:13

meditative or whether they are 03:17:14

meditative or whether they are ritualistic ah Whoopie they are not 03:17:14

ritualistic ah Whoopie they are not 03:17:19

ritualistic ah Whoopie they are not something you do in order to attain 03:17:19

something you do in order to attain 03:17:21

something you do in order to attain anything they are like art forms like 03:17:21

anything they are like art forms like 03:17:26

anything they are like art forms like dancing they are expressive of 03:17:26

dancing they are expressive of 03:17:28

dancing they are expressive of attainment of the attained less 03:17:28

attainment of the attained less 03:17:31

attainment of the attained less attainment so here's another hang-up for 03:17:31

attainment so here's another hang-up for 03:17:35

attainment so here's another hang-up for you when you go through mr. Suzuki who 03:17:35

you when you go through mr. Suzuki who 03:17:38

you when you go through mr. Suzuki who runs the Zen Center he's a good disciple 03:17:38

runs the Zen Center he's a good disciple 03:17:40

runs the Zen Center he's a good disciple of Doge M who brought then a certain 03:17:40

of Doge M who brought then a certain 03:17:45

of Doge M who brought then a certain school of Zen to Japan in the 13th 03:17:45

school of Zen to Japan in the 13th 03:17:49

school of Zen to Japan in the 13th century 03:17:49

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Dogen said you can't sit and meditate 03:17:52

Dogen said you can't sit and meditate 03:17:55

Dogen said you can't sit and meditate unless you're already a Buddha in which 03:17:55

unless you're already a Buddha in which 03:17:59

unless you're already a Buddha in which case why meditate well meditation is 03:17:59

case why meditate well meditation is 03:18:03

case why meditate well meditation is just the way a Buddhist sits and he 03:18:03

just the way a Buddhist sits and he 03:18:07

just the way a Buddhist sits and he called this sitting justice it not to 03:18:07

called this sitting justice it not to 03:18:09

called this sitting justice it not to attain enlightenment as the minute you 03:18:09

attain enlightenment as the minute you 03:18:11

attain enlightenment as the minute you do that you see you're not meditating so 03:18:11

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you only become a good meditator if 03:18:19

you only become a good meditator if 03:18:23

you only become a good meditator if you're not looking for anything and 03:18:23

you're not looking for anything and 03:18:27

you're not looking for anything and therefore you realize what a great thing 03:18:27

therefore you realize what a great thing 03:18:30

therefore you realize what a great thing it is to be able to sit and what a great 03:18:30

it is to be able to sit and what a great 03:18:34

it is to be able to sit and what a great thing it is not to dissect the world 03:18:34

thing it is not to dissect the world 03:18:36

thing it is not to dissect the world with your analytical intellect to be 03:18:36

with your analytical intellect to be 03:18:39

with your analytical intellect to be able to look out at the water or the 03:18:39

able to look out at the water or the 03:18:41

able to look out at the water or the trees or the floor and the light on it 03:18:41

trees or the floor and the light on it 03:18:43

trees or the floor and the light on it in front of you without calling it light 03:18:43

in front of you without calling it light 03:18:44

in front of you without calling it light or floor or trees or thinking that it 03:18:44

or floor or trees or thinking that it 03:18:47

or floor or trees or thinking that it has power 03:18:47

has power 03:18:48

has power or thinking that it's complicated it 03:18:48

or thinking that it's complicated it 03:18:52

or thinking that it's complicated it isn't so when you can sit without 03:18:52

isn't so when you can sit without 03:18:56

isn't so when you can sit without thinking not with an empty mind mind you 03:18:56

thinking not with an empty mind mind you 03:19:00

thinking not with an empty mind mind you I'm going back to that point not with an 03:19:00

I'm going back to that point not with an 03:19:02

I'm going back to that point not with an empty mind but just a non analytic mind 03:19:02

empty mind but just a non analytic mind 03:19:06

empty mind but just a non analytic mind a non probing mind where you're not 03:19:06

a non probing mind where you're not 03:19:10

a non probing mind where you're not creating problems all the time 03:19:10

creating problems all the time 03:19:11

creating problems all the time by trying to control it by trying to 03:19:11

by trying to control it by trying to 03:19:14

by trying to control it by trying to control your mind by trying to control 03:19:14

control your mind by trying to control 03:19:15

control your mind by trying to control your experience what you see in here you 03:19:15

your experience what you see in here you 03:19:18

your experience what you see in here you then just simply discover that there is 03:19:18

then just simply discover that there is 03:19:22

then just simply discover that there is no way of controlling what you're 03:19:22

no way of controlling what you're 03:19:23

no way of controlling what you're experiencing because what you're 03:19:23

experiencing because what you're 03:19:25

experiencing because what you're experiencing is you and to try and 03:19:25

experiencing is you and to try and 03:19:30

experiencing is you and to try and really fundamentally control that this 03:19:30

really fundamentally control that this 03:19:33

really fundamentally control that this is going around the circle so if I would 03:19:33

is going around the circle so if I would 03:19:38

is going around the circle so if I would say to you now what you have to learn is 03:19:38

say to you now what you have to learn is 03:19:40

say to you now what you have to learn is to let it happen that's wrong - there's 03:19:40

to let it happen that's wrong - there's 03:19:42

to let it happen that's wrong - there's no one to let it happen if I say to you 03:19:42

no one to let it happen if I say to you 03:19:45

no one to let it happen if I say to you accept your experience be calm and open 03:19:45

accept your experience be calm and open 03:19:50

accept your experience be calm and open to things that again perpetuates the 03:19:50

to things that again perpetuates the 03:19:52

to things that again perpetuates the illusion that you're something different 03:19:52

illusion that you're something different 03:19:53

illusion that you're something different from so we go round and round but if 03:19:53

from so we go round and round but if 03:20:00

from so we go round and round but if there are some people who want to get 03:20:00

there are some people who want to get 03:20:03

there are some people who want to get together and like we would get together 03:20:03

together and like we would get together 03:20:04

together and like we would get together to play poker or to have a walk go 03:20:05

to play poker or to have a walk go 03:20:09

to play poker or to have a walk go fishing or sail a boat if there are some 03:20:09

fishing or sail a boat if there are some 03:20:11

fishing or sail a boat if there are some people who want to get together to 03:20:11

people who want to get together to 03:20:12

people who want to get together to meditate and have rituals and to chant 03:20:12

meditate and have rituals and to chant 03:20:16

meditate and have rituals and to chant great it's an art form and you can only 03:20:16

great it's an art form and you can only 03:20:21

great it's an art form and you can only use it and make it a good art form if 03:20:21

use it and make it a good art form if 03:20:24

use it and make it a good art form if you're not using it to get something and 03:20:24

you're not using it to get something and 03:20:27

you're not using it to get something and this is what really is the bane of 03:20:27

this is what really is the bane of 03:20:30

this is what really is the bane of temples all over the world you go into 03:20:30

temples all over the world you go into 03:20:34

temples all over the world you go into Buddhist temples where they 03:20:34

Buddhist temples where they 03:20:36

Buddhist temples where they theoretically don't believe in any God 03:20:36

theoretically don't believe in any God 03:20:38

theoretically don't believe in any God but there are the people praying and 03:20:38

but there are the people praying and 03:20:42

but there are the people praying and they're all doing it in order that we 03:20:42

they're all doing it in order that we 03:20:49

they're all doing it in order that we get a male child next time around or 03:20:49

get a male child next time around or 03:20:51

get a male child next time around or that the horse recover from a disease or 03:20:51

that the horse recover from a disease or 03:20:55

that the horse recover from a disease or that mama gets cured of the dropsy and 03:20:55

that mama gets cured of the dropsy and 03:20:58

that mama gets cured of the dropsy and all these petitions are going on and on 03:20:58

all these petitions are going on and on 03:21:00

all these petitions are going on and on and on 03:21:00

and on 03:21:01

and on people always coming to the temple to 03:21:01

people always coming to the temple to 03:21:03

people always coming to the temple to ask for something lowbrow people for 03:21:03

ask for something lowbrow people for 03:21:05

ask for something lowbrow people for lowbrow things highbrow people for 03:21:05

lowbrow things highbrow people for 03:21:07

lowbrow things highbrow people for highbrow things there all the vendors 03:21:07

highbrow things there all the vendors 03:21:10

highbrow things there all the vendors sit outside and sell souvenirs and magic 03:21:10

sit outside and sell souvenirs and magic 03:21:12

sit outside and sell souvenirs and magic and charms and all the people go in and 03:21:12

and charms and all the people go in and 03:21:14

and charms and all the people go in and do this and all these serious priests 03:21:14

do this and all these serious priests 03:21:17

do this and all these serious priests sitting there really having to keep up 03:21:17

sitting there really having to keep up 03:21:19

sitting there really having to keep up face and say yes we can't provide these 03:21:20

face and say yes we can't provide these 03:21:23

face and say yes we can't provide these services on the other hand if you go in 03:21:23

services on the other hand if you go in 03:21:28

services on the other hand if you go in to one of these temples along with all 03:21:28

to one of these temples along with all 03:21:30

to one of these temples along with all the faithful followers and have a bowl 03:21:30

the faithful followers and have a bowl 03:21:33

the faithful followers and have a bowl by a by a bead by a candle via this 03:21:33

by a by a bead by a candle via this 03:21:37

by a by a bead by a candle via this father buy some incense go in and dig 03:21:37

father buy some incense go in and dig 03:21:39

father buy some incense go in and dig this great thing going on salute the 03:21:39

this great thing going on salute the 03:21:42

this great thing going on salute the Buddha's or the crystal the quarters or 03:21:42

Buddha's or the crystal the quarters or 03:21:44

Buddha's or the crystal the quarters or the crucifixes or what you will but 03:21:44

the crucifixes or what you will but 03:21:47

the crucifixes or what you will but don't take it seriously and this is one 03:21:47

don't take it seriously and this is one 03:21:52

don't take it seriously and this is one of the great important transformations 03:21:52

of the great important transformations 03:21:54

of the great important transformations of today in our consciousness is that a 03:21:54

of today in our consciousness is that a 03:22:01

of today in our consciousness is that a great many people are finding out that 03:22:02

great many people are finding out that 03:22:03

great many people are finding out that religion is not supposed to be taken 03:22:03

religion is not supposed to be taken 03:22:05

religion is not supposed to be taken seriously this is a shocking thing to 03:22:05

seriously this is a shocking thing to 03:22:10

seriously this is a shocking thing to many people or those used to be an old 03:22:10

many people or those used to be an old 03:22:14

many people or those used to be an old saying that a religion is bad when the 03:22:14

saying that a religion is bad when the 03:22:17

saying that a religion is bad when the police laughs across the altars that's 03:22:17

police laughs across the altars that's 03:22:20

police laughs across the altars that's true in one sense when the priests know 03:22:20

true in one sense when the priests know 03:22:23

true in one sense when the priests know that they've got a racket going and they 03:22:23

that they've got a racket going and they 03:22:25

that they've got a racket going and they don't believe one word of it and they're 03:22:25

don't believe one word of it and they're 03:22:27

don't believe one word of it and they're laughing across the altar because of all 03:22:27

laughing across the altar because of all 03:22:28

laughing across the altar because of all these suckers around doing it then it's 03:22:28

these suckers around doing it then it's 03:22:31

these suckers around doing it then it's true the religion is dead but when the 03:22:31

true the religion is dead but when the 03:22:36

true the religion is dead but when the priests laugh at the audience because 03:22:36

priests laugh at the audience because 03:22:39

priests laugh at the audience because they're having such fun because this 03:22:39

they're having such fun because this 03:22:42

they're having such fun because this whole scene is so beautiful well it's 03:22:42

whole scene is so beautiful well it's 03:22:45

whole scene is so beautiful well it's the difference between some stuffy old 03:22:45

the difference between some stuffy old 03:22:49

the difference between some stuffy old Buddhist priest humming a Sutra and 03:22:49

Buddhist priest humming a Sutra and 03:22:52

Buddhist priest humming a Sutra and Allen Ginsberg chanting a Sutra that's a 03:22:52

Allen Ginsberg chanting a Sutra that's a 03:22:56

Allen Ginsberg chanting a Sutra that's a thing to hear mmm 03:22:56

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no they're gone for interminably moodle 03:23:01

no they're gone for interminably moodle 03:23:03

no they're gone for interminably moodle ball they're sick of it but they get 03:23:03

ball they're sick of it but they get 03:23:06

ball they're sick of it but they get paid for it 03:23:06

paid for it 03:23:07

paid for it this is magical but when i'm ginsburg 03:23:07

this is magical but when i'm ginsburg 03:23:10

this is magical but when i'm ginsburg johnson suit everybody gets in a circle 03:23:10

johnson suit everybody gets in a circle 03:23:12

johnson suit everybody gets in a circle he gets these little bells and they get 03:23:12

he gets these little bells and they get 03:23:14

he gets these little bells and they get going it's just like a it's like a a jam 03:23:14

going it's just like a it's like a a jam 03:23:16

going it's just like a it's like a a jam session where everybody is absolutely 03:23:16

session where everybody is absolutely 03:23:19

session where everybody is absolutely delighted well that's the way to do it 03:23:19

delighted well that's the way to do it 03:23:21

delighted well that's the way to do it and if you can't do it that way forget 03:23:21

and if you can't do it that way forget 03:23:24

and if you can't do it that way forget it 03:23:24