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we'll begin by refreshing memories after 00:00:05
we'll begin by refreshing memories after 00:00:10
we'll begin by refreshing memories after what went before in discussing the theme 00:00:10
what went before in discussing the theme 00:00:14
what went before in discussing the theme of the Joker I have been talking about a 00:00:14
of the Joker I have been talking about a 00:00:18
of the Joker I have been talking about a point of view the Joker's point of view 00:00:18
point of view the Joker's point of view 00:00:22
point of view the Joker's point of view from which not only our social 00:00:22
from which not only our social 00:00:26
from which not only our social institutions but also all the formations 00:00:26
institutions but also all the formations 00:00:30
institutions but also all the formations of the natural world are seen as games 00:00:30
be careful of the word game it doesn't 00:00:35
be careful of the word game it doesn't 00:00:40
be careful of the word game it doesn't mean as trivialities because when we say 00:00:40
mean as trivialities because when we say 00:00:45
mean as trivialities because when we say it's just a game this often means it is 00:00:45
it's just a game this often means it is 00:00:48
it's just a game this often means it is just trivial there can be important 00:00:48
just trivial there can be important 00:00:54
just trivial there can be important games as when we play the piano or 00:00:54
games as when we play the piano or 00:00:59
games as when we play the piano or musical instruments we are not 00:00:59
musical instruments we are not 00:01:02
musical instruments we are not necessarily doing something frivolous 00:01:02
necessarily doing something frivolous 00:01:04
necessarily doing something frivolous but we are playing and there is 00:01:04
but we are playing and there is 00:01:09
but we are playing and there is something in the nature of all play that 00:01:09
something in the nature of all play that 00:01:13
something in the nature of all play that is not serious but at the same time may 00:01:13
is not serious but at the same time may 00:01:15
is not serious but at the same time may be sincere 00:01:15
and I tried to give you the picture of 00:01:19
and I tried to give you the picture of 00:01:23
and I tried to give you the picture of the multiplicity of natural forms on the 00:01:23
the multiplicity of natural forms on the 00:01:26
the multiplicity of natural forms on the one hand and of human social 00:01:26
one hand and of human social 00:01:28
one hand and of human social institutions and all the things that we 00:01:28
institutions and all the things that we 00:01:32
institutions and all the things that we do and consider important and busy 00:01:32
do and consider important and busy 00:01:34
do and consider important and busy ourselves with as human beings I tried 00:01:34
ourselves with as human beings I tried 00:01:37
ourselves with as human beings I tried to give you the point of view from which 00:01:37
to give you the point of view from which 00:01:39
to give you the point of view from which these can be seen as games as things 00:01:39
these can be seen as games as things 00:01:42
these can be seen as games as things being done as it was simply for 00:01:42
being done as it was simply for 00:01:44
being done as it was simply for themselves and not for some ulterior 00:01:44
themselves and not for some ulterior 00:01:51
themselves and not for some ulterior motives 00:01:51
motives 00:01:52
motives [Music] 00:01:52
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[Music] and therefore these games are in a way 00:01:54
and therefore these games are in a way 00:01:58
and therefore these games are in a way best played when they are played as 00:01:58
best played when they are played as 00:02:01
best played when they are played as games 00:02:01
although it's really alright for people 00:02:06
although it's really alright for people 00:02:09
although it's really alright for people to take them seriously except that they 00:02:09
to take them seriously except that they 00:02:14
to take them seriously except that they are a little bit deprived they're 00:02:14
are a little bit deprived they're 00:02:16
are a little bit deprived they're missing something and so when the Joker 00:02:16
missing something and so when the Joker 00:02:19
missing something and so when the Joker sees a person taking his life seriously 00:02:19
sees a person taking his life seriously 00:02:23
sees a person taking his life seriously and regarding himself as extremely 00:02:23
and regarding himself as extremely 00:02:26
and regarding himself as extremely important there is something a little 00:02:26
important there is something a little 00:02:29
important there is something a little bit funny about it and he is inclined to 00:02:29
bit funny about it and he is inclined to 00:02:31
bit funny about it and he is inclined to get the giggles and 00:02:31
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[Music] it's all he knows that the very 00:02:39
it's all he knows that the very 00:02:41
it's all he knows that the very intensity of seriousness with which the 00:02:41
intensity of seriousness with which the 00:02:45
intensity of seriousness with which the individuals concerned are taking these 00:02:45
individuals concerned are taking these 00:02:47
individuals concerned are taking these games will be a kind of foil for the 00:02:47
games will be a kind of foil for the 00:02:52
games will be a kind of foil for the subsequent bursting into laughter when 00:02:52
subsequent bursting into laughter when 00:02:59
subsequent bursting into laughter when he sees that it wasn't serious after all 00:02:59
he sees that it wasn't serious after all 00:03:01
he sees that it wasn't serious after all you see that you might say there are 00:03:01
you see that you might say there are 00:03:05
you see that you might say there are these classes of people there are the 00:03:05
these classes of people there are the 00:03:07
these classes of people there are the very far out people and the very far in 00:03:07
very far out people and the very far in 00:03:10
very far out people and the very far in people now ordinarily we say someone's 00:03:10
people now ordinarily we say someone's 00:03:14
people now ordinarily we say someone's very far out when they are involved when 00:03:14
very far out when they are involved when 00:03:19
very far out when they are involved when they are exceedingly unconventional but 00:03:19
they are exceedingly unconventional but 00:03:22
they are exceedingly unconventional but I want you to turn the picture round and 00:03:22
I want you to turn the picture round and 00:03:24
I want you to turn the picture round and look as a conventional person look at a 00:03:24
look as a conventional person look at a 00:03:27
look as a conventional person look at a square as the person who's very far out 00:03:27
square as the person who's very far out 00:03:31
square as the person who's very far out that is to say he is so involved in the 00:03:31
that is to say he is so involved in the 00:03:35
that is to say he is so involved in the seriousness of the game he is playing 00:03:35
seriousness of the game he is playing 00:03:37
seriousness of the game he is playing that he is lost he doesn't know where he 00:03:37
that he is lost he doesn't know where he 00:03:40
that he is lost he doesn't know where he started from and he thinks he's there 00:03:40
but he's completely lost because he is 00:03:44
but he's completely lost because he is 00:03:48
but he's completely lost because he is actually under the cover of his 00:03:48
actually under the cover of his 00:03:52
actually under the cover of his assurance of his status of his position 00:03:52
assurance of his status of his position 00:03:56
assurance of his status of his position in society is really a very anxious 00:03:56
in society is really a very anxious 00:03:58
in society is really a very anxious person I said a lot yesterday about the 00:03:58
person I said a lot yesterday about the 00:04:01
person I said a lot yesterday about the way in which our society shows anxiety 00:04:01
way in which our society shows anxiety 00:04:04
way in which our society shows anxiety because it cannot permit the existence 00:04:04
because it cannot permit the existence 00:04:06
because it cannot permit the existence of people who don't belong 00:04:06
of people who don't belong 00:04:09
of people who don't belong and it cannot really permit the 00:04:09
and it cannot really permit the 00:04:12
and it cannot really permit the criticism of laughter it cannot permit 00:04:12
criticism of laughter it cannot permit 00:04:15
criticism of laughter it cannot permit the presence of the old-fashioned court 00:04:15
the presence of the old-fashioned court 00:04:17
the presence of the old-fashioned court jester because these people are so far 00:04:17
jester because these people are so far 00:04:21
jester because these people are so far out they are so involved and one from a 00:04:21
out they are so involved and one from a 00:04:26
out they are so involved and one from a certain standpoint you see from the 00:04:26
certain standpoint you see from the 00:04:27
certain standpoint you see from the Joker's standpoint he doesn't condemn 00:04:27
Joker's standpoint he doesn't condemn 00:04:30
Joker's standpoint he doesn't condemn such people he rather congratulate them 00:04:30
such people he rather congratulate them 00:04:33
such people he rather congratulate them on their heroism for getting so lost and 00:04:33
on their heroism for getting so lost and 00:04:36
on their heroism for getting so lost and involved but to keep the far out people 00:04:36
involved but to keep the far out people 00:04:40
involved but to keep the far out people from going quite insane there have to be 00:04:40
from going quite insane there have to be 00:04:44
from going quite insane there have to be far in people and the far in people are 00:04:44
far in people and the far in people are 00:04:48
far in people and the far in people are those who keep contact with the original 00:04:48
those who keep contact with the original 00:04:52
those who keep contact with the original the goings on behind the scenes they are 00:04:52
the goings on behind the scenes they are 00:04:57
the goings on behind the scenes they are like the prompter in the theater 00:04:57
like the prompter in the theater 00:04:59
like the prompter in the theater where there are the actors out on the 00:04:59
where there are the actors out on the 00:05:01
where there are the actors out on the stage relying on their memories etc and 00:05:01
stage relying on their memories etc and 00:05:04
stage relying on their memories etc and they are supposed to get completely 00:05:04
they are supposed to get completely 00:05:05
they are supposed to get completely involved in the play but there's a 00:05:05
involved in the play but there's a 00:05:07
involved in the play but there's a concealed prompter was a script in front 00:05:07
concealed prompter was a script in front 00:05:09
concealed prompter was a script in front of him and he is the connection of the 00:05:10
of him and he is the connection of the 00:05:13
of him and he is the connection of the actor on the stage with the greenroom 00:05:13
actor on the stage with the greenroom 00:05:15
actor on the stage with the greenroom behind the stage and you see in in this 00:05:15
behind the stage and you see in in this 00:05:20
behind the stage and you see in in this dramatic analogy of the universe 00:05:20
dramatic analogy of the universe 00:05:23
dramatic analogy of the universe the green room is the central point the 00:05:23
the green room is the central point the 00:05:28
the green room is the central point the still point of the turning world the 00:05:28
still point of the turning world the 00:05:30
still point of the turning world the green room is how God is when he's back 00:05:30
green room is how God is when he's back 00:05:35
green room is how God is when he's back home not involved in all these games and 00:05:35
home not involved in all these games and 00:05:39
home not involved in all these games and takes off the mask see I'm the Hindu 00:05:39
takes off the mask see I'm the Hindu 00:05:43
takes off the mask see I'm the Hindu theory that everybody is the mask of God 00:05:43
theory that everybody is the mask of God 00:05:45
theory that everybody is the mask of God the like wonderful line in one of 00:05:45
the like wonderful line in one of 00:05:49
the like wonderful line in one of Chesterton poems and now a great thing 00:05:49
Chesterton poems and now a great thing 00:05:52
Chesterton poems and now a great thing in the street seems any human not we're 00:05:52
in the street seems any human not we're 00:05:55
in the street seems any human not we're moving strange democracy the million 00:05:55
moving strange democracy the million 00:05:57
moving strange democracy the million masks of God the million masks of the 00:05:57
masks of God the million masks of the 00:06:00
masks of God the million masks of the Joker because the Joker is the player 00:06:00
Joker because the Joker is the player 00:06:03
Joker because the Joker is the player the trick player who plays ultimately 00:06:03
the trick player who plays ultimately 00:06:06
the trick player who plays ultimately the great trick on himself 00:06:06
the great trick on himself 00:06:09
the great trick on himself so really there can be no resentment 00:06:09
so really there can be no resentment 00:06:12
so really there can be no resentment about this nobody to blame nobody to 00:06:12
about this nobody to blame nobody to 00:06:14
about this nobody to blame nobody to turn around during the end and say you 00:06:14
turn around during the end and say you 00:06:16
turn around during the end and say you you bastard you did this to me 00:06:16
you bastard you did this to me 00:06:18
you bastard you did this to me because it's always you who are 00:06:18
because it's always you who are 00:06:20
because it's always you who are ultimately responsible 00:06:20
so this prompter you see keeps the actor 00:06:24
so this prompter you see keeps the actor 00:06:29
so this prompter you see keeps the actor on the stage in touch with the greenroom 00:06:29
on the stage in touch with the greenroom 00:06:30
on the stage in touch with the greenroom and so there are certain people in the 00:06:30
and so there are certain people in the 00:06:32
and so there are certain people in the world who might be a kind of a 00:06:32
world who might be a kind of a 00:06:35
world who might be a kind of a priesthood sometimes although 00:06:35
priesthood sometimes although 00:06:37
priesthood sometimes although priesthoods are apt to become corrupt 00:06:37
priesthoods are apt to become corrupt 00:06:39
priesthoods are apt to become corrupt and square but a kind of people in the 00:06:39
and square but a kind of people in the 00:06:43
and square but a kind of people in the know there always has to be somebody 00:06:43
know there always has to be somebody 00:06:46
know there always has to be somebody around in the know so that are as it 00:06:46
around in the know so that are as it 00:06:51
around in the know so that are as it were the wheel of society and of 00:06:51
were the wheel of society and of 00:06:54
were the wheel of society and of existence the wheel of the squirrel-cage 00:06:54
existence the wheel of the squirrel-cage 00:06:56
existence the wheel of the squirrel-cage the wheel of the rat race can have an 00:06:56
the wheel of the rat race can have an 00:06:59
the wheel of the rat race can have an actual firmly planted 00:06:59
actual firmly planted 00:07:01
actual firmly planted and at the center then there have to be 00:07:01
and at the center then there have to be 00:07:03
and at the center then there have to be the far in people so this is the domain 00:07:03
the far in people so this is the domain 00:07:07
the far in people so this is the domain of jokers 00:07:07
now having developed that side of the 00:07:10
now having developed that side of the 00:07:14
now having developed that side of the Joker the person who sees through the 00:07:14
Joker the person who sees through the 00:07:18
Joker the person who sees through the social institutions of games I went on 00:07:18
social institutions of games I went on 00:07:20
social institutions of games I went on in the second session to discuss another 00:07:20
in the second session to discuss another 00:07:25
in the second session to discuss another aspect of the Joker as the fly man in 00:07:25
aspect of the Joker as the fly man in 00:07:28
aspect of the Joker as the fly man in comparison with the monk the fakir and 00:07:28
comparison with the monk the fakir and 00:07:31
comparison with the monk the fakir and the yogi who undertake all those three 00:07:32
the yogi who undertake all those three 00:07:36
the yogi who undertake all those three undertake in certain different ways 00:07:36
undertake in certain different ways 00:07:39
undertake in certain different ways disciplines which have the intent of 00:07:39
disciplines which have the intent of 00:07:44
disciplines which have the intent of releasing them from their Karma 00:07:44
the individual in other words 00:07:48
the individual in other words 00:07:50
the individual in other words challengers his involvement his 00:07:50
challengers his involvement his 00:07:54
challengers his involvement his attachment his limitations his fine a 00:07:54
attachment his limitations his fine a 00:07:57
attachment his limitations his fine a toot and endeavors to overcome it but in 00:07:57
toot and endeavors to overcome it but in 00:08:02
toot and endeavors to overcome it but in each of these three cases the individual 00:08:02
each of these three cases the individual 00:08:04
each of these three cases the individual involved stirs up in immense opposition 00:08:04
involved stirs up in immense opposition 00:08:08
involved stirs up in immense opposition because he serves notice upon the devil 00:08:08
because he serves notice upon the devil 00:08:12
because he serves notice upon the devil or shall we say upon his karmic 00:08:12
or shall we say upon his karmic 00:08:15
or shall we say upon his karmic creditors that he is about to leave town 00:08:16
creditors that he is about to leave town 00:08:18
creditors that he is about to leave town and so all the creditors come rushing to 00:08:18
and so all the creditors come rushing to 00:08:22
and so all the creditors come rushing to the door all his past sins catch up with 00:08:22
the door all his past sins catch up with 00:08:26
the door all his past sins catch up with him and the devil lays his temptations 00:08:26
him and the devil lays his temptations 00:08:30
him and the devil lays his temptations in the way all the more thoroughly so 00:08:30
in the way all the more thoroughly so 00:08:34
in the way all the more thoroughly so that the sly man is the one who when he 00:08:34
that the sly man is the one who when he 00:08:37
that the sly man is the one who when he is going to leave town does so 00:08:37
is going to leave town does so 00:08:39
is going to leave town does so instantaneously without any prior 00:08:39
instantaneously without any prior 00:08:41
instantaneously without any prior announcement and so in this way there is 00:08:41
announcement and so in this way there is 00:08:46
announcement and so in this way there is shall we say a cunning manner of 00:08:46
shall we say a cunning manner of 00:08:50
shall we say a cunning manner of becoming a Buddha 00:08:50
and that is to become one instantly 00:08:54
and that is to become one instantly 00:08:57
and that is to become one instantly without any preparation or warning 00:08:57
without any preparation or warning 00:09:00
without any preparation or warning whatsoever this is why Zen is called the 00:09:00
whatsoever this is why Zen is called the 00:09:03
whatsoever this is why Zen is called the sudden school and why star tori is a 00:09:03
sudden school and why star tori is a 00:09:08
sudden school and why star tori is a sudden awakening because it has to be 00:09:08
sudden awakening because it has to be 00:09:13
sudden awakening because it has to be done without the slightest warning now 00:09:13
but then I pointed out that the moment 00:09:21
but then I pointed out that the moment 00:09:24
but then I pointed out that the moment you have any idea about doing this 00:09:24
you have any idea about doing this 00:09:28
you have any idea about doing this you've already ceased to be sudden if 00:09:28
you've already ceased to be sudden if 00:09:33
you've already ceased to be sudden if that is to say the moment you seek for 00:09:33
that is to say the moment you seek for 00:09:37
that is to say the moment you seek for some spiritual attainment which is 00:09:37
some spiritual attainment which is 00:09:40
some spiritual attainment which is becoming a Buddha becoming awakened 00:09:40
becoming a Buddha becoming awakened 00:09:42
becoming a Buddha becoming awakened becoming release getting in there you've 00:09:42
becoming release getting in there you've 00:09:47
becoming release getting in there you've already served notice upon your 00:09:47
already served notice upon your 00:09:48
already served notice upon your creditors so that somehow or other you 00:09:48
creditors so that somehow or other you 00:09:53
creditors so that somehow or other you find that you have to do it without 00:09:53
find that you have to do it without 00:09:54
find that you have to do it without intending to do it and that is a double 00:09:54
intending to do it and that is a double 00:09:59
intending to do it and that is a double bind where would you impose upon 00:09:59
bind where would you impose upon 00:10:04
bind where would you impose upon yourself when you say I must find a way 00:10:04
yourself when you say I must find a way 00:10:07
yourself when you say I must find a way of doing this 00:10:07
of doing this 00:10:09
of doing this spontaneously that's the old old basic 00:10:09
spontaneously that's the old old basic 00:10:12
spontaneously that's the old old basic double bind you must be spontaneous 00:10:12
double bind you must be spontaneous 00:10:18
double bind you must be spontaneous you are commanded or you command 00:10:18
you are commanded or you command 00:10:20
you are commanded or you command yourself to do something which is 00:10:21
yourself to do something which is 00:10:22
yourself to do something which is acceptable only if it happens 00:10:22
acceptable only if it happens 00:10:24
acceptable only if it happens spontaneously then you think about that 00:10:24
spontaneously then you think about that 00:10:29
spontaneously then you think about that and say well well well what a fix that 00:10:29
and say well well well what a fix that 00:10:32
and say well well well what a fix that is here am I saying I must be surprised 00:10:32
is here am I saying I must be surprised 00:10:38
is here am I saying I must be surprised and I'm going to lay plans to surprise 00:10:38
and I'm going to lay plans to surprise 00:10:41
and I'm going to lay plans to surprise myself so by going through this you 00:10:41
myself so by going through this you 00:10:48
myself so by going through this you discover of naturally that that can't be 00:10:48
discover of naturally that that can't be 00:10:50
discover of naturally that that can't be done you can't surprise yourself on 00:10:50
done you can't surprise yourself on 00:10:54
done you can't surprise yourself on purpose yet that's what you have to do 00:10:54
so what about it 00:10:59
so what about it 00:11:01
so what about it you come to a state of total paralysis 00:11:01
you're stuck 00:11:06
the one thing that is terribly important 00:11:14
the one thing that is terribly important 00:11:16
the one thing that is terribly important to be done can't be done 00:11:16
to be done can't be done 00:11:18
to be done can't be done it has to happen it really does if 00:11:18
it has to happen it really does if 00:11:21
it has to happen it really does if you're earnest about this you want to 00:11:21
you're earnest about this you want to 00:11:22
you're earnest about this you want to get out of the trap but you can't do 00:11:22
get out of the trap but you can't do 00:11:26
get out of the trap but you can't do anything about it either actively or 00:11:26
anything about it either actively or 00:11:30
anything about it either actively or passively 00:11:30
passively 00:11:32
passively [Music] 00:11:32
[Music] 00:11:34
[Music] but then as you begin to see what you 00:11:34
but then as you begin to see what you 00:11:38
but then as you begin to see what you are doing all the time you notice a very 00:11:38
are doing all the time you notice a very 00:11:42
are doing all the time you notice a very odd defect which is that you can't help 00:11:42
odd defect which is that you can't help 00:11:46
odd defect which is that you can't help being spontaneous if I say to you good 00:11:46
being spontaneous if I say to you good 00:11:52
being spontaneous if I say to you good morning and you say good morning what is 00:11:52
morning and you say good morning what is 00:11:55
morning and you say good morning what is that did you plan this answer did you 00:11:55
that did you plan this answer did you 00:12:00
that did you plan this answer did you make preparations to grow your hair I do 00:12:00
make preparations to grow your hair I do 00:12:05
make preparations to grow your hair I do make decisions about having blue eyes 00:12:05
you see about breathing is this all clam 00:12:10
you see about breathing is this all clam 00:12:14
you see about breathing is this all clam about beating your heart and what about 00:12:14
about beating your heart and what about 00:12:17
about beating your heart and what about your thinking even if it's very blocked 00:12:18
your thinking even if it's very blocked 00:12:20
your thinking even if it's very blocked thinking even if you feel from a certain 00:12:20
thinking even if you feel from a certain 00:12:23
thinking even if you feel from a certain point of view that you're all mixed up 00:12:23
point of view that you're all mixed up 00:12:25
point of view that you're all mixed up what is going on anyway you see you 00:12:25
what is going on anyway you see you 00:12:29
what is going on anyway you see you can't stop it it's like trying to we 00:12:29
can't stop it it's like trying to we 00:12:33
can't stop it it's like trying to we were discussing the good chef thing 00:12:33
were discussing the good chef thing 00:12:36
were discussing the good chef thing yesterday the self remembering exercise 00:12:36
yesterday the self remembering exercise 00:12:38
yesterday the self remembering exercise the attempt to live completely in the 00:12:39
the attempt to live completely in the 00:12:42
the attempt to live completely in the present well that's not only a good chef 00:12:42
present well that's not only a good chef 00:12:45
present well that's not only a good chef idea that's a very ancient yoga and 00:12:45
idea that's a very ancient yoga and 00:12:48
idea that's a very ancient yoga and Buddhist discipline to be completely 00:12:48
Buddhist discipline to be completely 00:12:51
Buddhist discipline to be completely here and now but of course as you pursue 00:12:51
here and now but of course as you pursue 00:12:54
here and now but of course as you pursue this who discover you can't do it 00:12:54
this who discover you can't do it 00:12:56
this who discover you can't do it because you couldn't even you know know 00:12:56
because you couldn't even you know know 00:13:00
because you couldn't even you know know when to go shopping unless you made 00:13:00
when to go shopping unless you made 00:13:01
when to go shopping unless you made plans and started thinking about the 00:13:01
plans and started thinking about the 00:13:03
plans and started thinking about the future because you couldn't move but 00:13:03
future because you couldn't move but 00:13:07
future because you couldn't move but then you discover you see that in the 00:13:07
then you discover you see that in the 00:13:10
then you discover you see that in the long run there's nothing to think about 00:13:10
long run there's nothing to think about 00:13:11
long run there's nothing to think about except that here and now 00:13:11
except that here and now 00:13:14
except that here and now there isn't anything else because even 00:13:14
there isn't anything else because even 00:13:17
there isn't anything else because even when you make plans to the future and 00:13:17
when you make plans to the future and 00:13:19
when you make plans to the future and you remember the past you're doing it 00:13:19
you remember the past you're doing it 00:13:21
you remember the past you're doing it all in the present your memory is the 00:13:21
all in the present your memory is the 00:13:23
all in the present your memory is the present activity there's no way of not 00:13:23
present activity there's no way of not 00:13:26
present activity there's no way of not being self remembering and present and 00:13:26
being self remembering and present and 00:13:28
being self remembering and present and having presence of mind so when you 00:13:29
having presence of mind so when you 00:13:31
having presence of mind so when you discover that there's nothing left to 00:13:31
discover that there's nothing left to 00:13:34
discover that there's nothing left to you but to have a good laugh well now I 00:13:34
you but to have a good laugh well now I 00:13:42
you but to have a good laugh well now I want to develop to a greater extent 00:13:42
want to develop to a greater extent 00:13:46
want to develop to a greater extent something I only touched on yesterday 00:13:46
something I only touched on yesterday 00:13:48
something I only touched on yesterday afternoon when we were discussing 00:13:48
afternoon when we were discussing 00:13:52
afternoon when we were discussing anxiety and laughter and the 00:13:52
anxiety and laughter and the 00:13:54
anxiety and laughter and the relationship between the two 00:13:54
relationship between the two 00:13:56
relationship between the two [Music] 00:13:56
[Music] 00:13:58
[Music] I suggested that anxiety and laughter 00:13:58
I suggested that anxiety and laughter 00:14:01
I suggested that anxiety and laughter are really the same phenomenon but a 00:14:01
are really the same phenomenon but a 00:14:04
are really the same phenomenon but a theme from different points of view as 00:14:04
theme from different points of view as 00:14:07
theme from different points of view as we all know we can have shadows of 00:14:07
we all know we can have shadows of 00:14:09
we all know we can have shadows of horror and shadows of delight tears of 00:14:09
horror and shadows of delight tears of 00:14:12
horror and shadows of delight tears of grief and tears of joy and it's the same 00:14:12
grief and tears of joy and it's the same 00:14:16
grief and tears of joy and it's the same shudders than the same tears in either 00:14:16
shudders than the same tears in either 00:14:18
shudders than the same tears in either case but they have a completely 00:14:18
case but they have a completely 00:14:19
case but they have a completely different meaning now life set life is a 00:14:19
different meaning now life set life is a 00:14:23
different meaning now life set life is a matter of oscillation light is vibration 00:14:23
matter of oscillation light is vibration 00:14:27
matter of oscillation light is vibration it's the young III the whole time and 00:14:27
it's the young III the whole time and 00:14:31
it's the young III the whole time and all the way through question is how are 00:14:31
all the way through question is how are 00:14:33
all the way through question is how are you going to interpret that is it 00:14:33
you going to interpret that is it 00:14:36
you going to interpret that is it tremble tremble tremble or is it laughs 00:14:36
tremble tremble tremble or is it laughs 00:14:39
tremble tremble tremble or is it laughs laughs laughs that's the that's the 00:14:39
laughs laughs that's the that's the 00:14:44
laughs laughs that's the that's the great thing and sometimes it's one 00:14:44
great thing and sometimes it's one 00:14:49
great thing and sometimes it's one sometimes it's the other 00:14:49
so that the the whole thing of the Joker 00:14:53
so that the the whole thing of the Joker 00:14:57
so that the the whole thing of the Joker is the book the he comes into being as 00:14:57
is the book the he comes into being as 00:15:00
is the book the he comes into being as it were at the point when the anxiety 00:15:00
it were at the point when the anxiety 00:15:04
it were at the point when the anxiety interpretation of the trembling becomes 00:15:04
interpretation of the trembling becomes 00:15:06
interpretation of the trembling becomes the Laughing interpretation 00:15:06
we were talking about monks who had 00:15:10
we were talking about monks who had 00:15:15
we were talking about monks who had skulls on in their cells to remind them 00:15:15
skulls on in their cells to remind them 00:15:18
skulls on in their cells to remind them of mortality and we think a grim thing 00:15:18
of mortality and we think a grim thing 00:15:23
of mortality and we think a grim thing the skull is a grim thing but Chesterton 00:15:23
the skull is a grim thing but Chesterton 00:15:29
the skull is a grim thing but Chesterton had the poem about the skirt of the 00:15:29
had the poem about the skirt of the 00:15:32
had the poem about the skirt of the skull chattering Finch and water fly are 00:15:32
skull chattering Finch and water fly are 00:15:36
skull chattering Finch and water fly are not merrier than I here among the 00:15:36
not merrier than I here among the 00:15:39
not merrier than I here among the flowers I lie 00:15:39
flowers I lie 00:15:40
flowers I lie laughing everlastingly no I may not tell 00:15:40
laughing everlastingly no I may not tell 00:15:45
laughing everlastingly no I may not tell the best surely friends I might have 00:15:45
the best surely friends I might have 00:15:48
the best surely friends I might have guessed death was but the good Kings 00:15:48
guessed death was but the good Kings 00:15:50
guessed death was but the good Kings jest it was hid so carefully so you can 00:15:50
jest it was hid so carefully so you can 00:15:56
jest it was hid so carefully so you can see the skull not as a grim thing but as 00:15:56
see the skull not as a grim thing but as 00:15:59
see the skull not as a grim thing but as a laughing thing 00:15:59
a laughing thing 00:16:01
a laughing thing it's all of left of a human being and 00:16:01
it's all of left of a human being and 00:16:04
it's all of left of a human being and all the the surface is peeled off and 00:16:04
all the the surface is peeled off and 00:16:08
all the the surface is peeled off and nothing but this beautiful bone remains 00:16:08
nothing but this beautiful bone remains 00:16:10
nothing but this beautiful bone remains it laughs 00:16:10
now why what is it about death being a 00:16:16
now why what is it about death being a 00:16:22
now why what is it about death being a jest 00:16:22
we discussed the problem of the zebra 00:16:30
we discussed the problem of the zebra 00:16:34
we discussed the problem of the zebra you remember whether a zebra is a yellow 00:16:34
you remember whether a zebra is a yellow 00:16:38
you remember whether a zebra is a yellow horse with black stripes or a black 00:16:38
horse with black stripes or a black 00:16:40
horse with black stripes or a black horse with yellow stripes and of course 00:16:40
horse with yellow stripes and of course 00:16:45
horse with yellow stripes and of course you can see it either way 00:16:45
you can see it either way 00:16:48
you can see it either way and you can argue to all this blue about 00:16:48
and you can argue to all this blue about 00:16:51
and you can argue to all this blue about which side is right and let's suppose 00:16:51
which side is right and let's suppose 00:16:55
which side is right and let's suppose that a black horse is the horse of 00:16:55
that a black horse is the horse of 00:16:57
that a black horse is the horse of ill-omen 00:16:57
ill-omen 00:16:58
ill-omen even though striped with yellow and a 00:16:58
even though striped with yellow and a 00:17:01
even though striped with yellow and a yellow horse the horse of joy and good 00:17:01
yellow horse the horse of joy and good 00:17:03
yellow horse the horse of joy and good omen 00:17:03
omen 00:17:04
omen even though striped with black this is 00:17:04
even though striped with black this is 00:17:07
even though striped with black this is our eternal problem we are in the state 00:17:07
our eternal problem we are in the state 00:17:12
our eternal problem we are in the state of egocentric consciousness firmly 00:17:12
of egocentric consciousness firmly 00:17:15
of egocentric consciousness firmly convinced that death is a threat we are 00:17:15
convinced that death is a threat we are 00:17:25
convinced that death is a threat we are so convinced to this even though 00:17:25
so convinced to this even though 00:17:27
so convinced to this even though individuals may say well I'm not really 00:17:27
individuals may say well I'm not really 00:17:30
individuals may say well I'm not really afraid of death what I'm afraid of is 00:17:30
afraid of death what I'm afraid of is 00:17:31
afraid of death what I'm afraid of is dying in an unpleasant way nevertheless 00:17:31
dying in an unpleasant way nevertheless 00:17:35
dying in an unpleasant way nevertheless since 00:17:36
almost all spare moralists and they're 00:17:39
almost all spare moralists and they're 00:17:45
almost all spare moralists and they're people concerned with ethics seem to 00:17:45
people concerned with ethics seem to 00:17:49
people concerned with ethics seem to agree whatever their differences of 00:17:49
agree whatever their differences of 00:17:51
agree whatever their differences of opinion that survival is a good thing in 00:17:51
opinion that survival is a good thing in 00:17:55
opinion that survival is a good thing in some sense if not survival in this body 00:17:55
some sense if not survival in this body 00:17:59
some sense if not survival in this body even the most I mean the people who 00:17:59
even the most I mean the people who 00:18:02
even the most I mean the people who would rather be dead than red firmly 00:18:02
would rather be dead than red firmly 00:18:06
would rather be dead than red firmly believe that that is true because they 00:18:06
believe that that is true because they 00:18:09
believe that that is true because they believe there is a Hereafter where they 00:18:09
believe there is a Hereafter where they 00:18:12
believe there is a Hereafter where they can go and where they can be rewarded 00:18:12
can go and where they can be rewarded 00:18:15
can go and where they can be rewarded for the courageous stand against evil 00:18:15
for the courageous stand against evil 00:18:17
for the courageous stand against evil which they have taken you see so that's 00:18:17
which they have taken you see so that's 00:18:21
which they have taken you see so that's still some kind of insistence on the 00:18:21
still some kind of insistence on the 00:18:24
still some kind of insistence on the very the value of survival and we all 00:18:24
very the value of survival and we all 00:18:29
very the value of survival and we all cling to this idea of survival with 00:18:29
cling to this idea of survival with 00:18:33
cling to this idea of survival with tremendous passion but we have been 00:18:33
tremendous passion but we have been 00:18:39
tremendous passion but we have been fooled because survival is an important 00:18:39
fooled because survival is an important 00:18:45
fooled because survival is an important ideal only so long as you have bothering 00:18:45
ideal only so long as you have bothering 00:18:49
ideal only so long as you have bothering you the bugbear of death that the world 00:18:49
you the bugbear of death that the world 00:18:54
you the bugbear of death that the world might stop altogether and that your 00:18:54
might stop altogether and that your 00:18:58
might stop altogether and that your death so far as you are concerned is 00:18:58
death so far as you are concerned is 00:19:00
death so far as you are concerned is curtains forever and that is really the 00:19:00
curtains forever and that is really the 00:19:05
curtains forever and that is really the bogey 00:19:05
you see that's all very well to 00:19:10
you see that's all very well to 00:19:14
you see that's all very well to rationalize and say no it's not death 00:19:14
rationalize and say no it's not death 00:19:16
rationalize and say no it's not death I'm afraid of its the pains of death but 00:19:16
I'm afraid of its the pains of death but 00:19:22
I'm afraid of its the pains of death but if you think about it deeply there are 00:19:22
if you think about it deeply there are 00:19:24
if you think about it deeply there are several stages in thinking about it 00:19:24
several stages in thinking about it 00:19:26
several stages in thinking about it deeply the first stage is the real 00:19:26
deeply the first stage is the real 00:19:28
deeply the first stage is the real horrors of endless night of the futility 00:19:28
horrors of endless night of the futility 00:19:33
horrors of endless night of the futility of the whole conception that one's own 00:19:33
of the whole conception that one's own 00:19:37
of the whole conception that one's own life or indeed the whole life of the 00:19:37
life or indeed the whole life of the 00:19:40
life or indeed the whole life of the cosmos might be nothing but a flash and 00:19:40
cosmos might be nothing but a flash and 00:19:47
cosmos might be nothing but a flash and beyond that nothing nothing nothing in 00:19:47
beyond that nothing nothing nothing in 00:19:50
beyond that nothing nothing nothing in all directions when for example we think 00:19:50
all directions when for example we think 00:19:54
all directions when for example we think of the physicists idea that the universe 00:19:54
of the physicists idea that the universe 00:19:57
of the physicists idea that the universe is running down that all energy is 00:19:57
is running down that all energy is 00:20:02
is running down that all energy is seeking a stable state supposing for 00:20:02
seeking a stable state supposing for 00:20:05
seeking a stable state supposing for example to give an illustration of what 00:20:05
example to give an illustration of what 00:20:07
example to give an illustration of what they mean I have a jar of black pepper 00:20:07
they mean I have a jar of black pepper 00:20:10
they mean I have a jar of black pepper and a jar of salt and I pour them 00:20:10
and a jar of salt and I pour them 00:20:14
and a jar of salt and I pour them together into another jar and I can see 00:20:14
together into another jar and I can see 00:20:19
together into another jar and I can see the white salt and the black pepper 00:20:19
the white salt and the black pepper 00:20:20
the white salt and the black pepper fairly well delineated then I start 00:20:20
fairly well delineated then I start 00:20:24
fairly well delineated then I start shaking the jar and slowly slowly slowly 00:20:24
shaking the jar and slowly slowly slowly 00:20:27
shaking the jar and slowly slowly slowly the black and the white disappear into a 00:20:27
the black and the white disappear into a 00:20:28
the black and the white disappear into a grey that can never be sorted out again 00:20:28
grey that can never be sorted out again 00:20:32
grey that can never be sorted out again into black and white 00:20:32
into black and white 00:20:34
into black and white and in this sort of way as things go on 00:20:34
and in this sort of way as things go on 00:20:38
and in this sort of way as things go on the universe they say it tends to attain 00:20:38
the universe they say it tends to attain 00:20:42
the universe they say it tends to attain a stable state to run down run down run 00:20:42
a stable state to run down run down run 00:20:45
a stable state to run down run down run down until that's the end and nobody 00:20:45
down until that's the end and nobody 00:20:50
down until that's the end and nobody knows how it could possibly start all 00:20:50
knows how it could possibly start all 00:20:52
knows how it could possibly start all over again 00:20:52
but I always say and I feel it's in a 00:20:55
but I always say and I feel it's in a 00:20:58
but I always say and I feel it's in a sort of funny intuitive way that what 00:20:58
sort of funny intuitive way that what 00:21:00
sort of funny intuitive way that what happened once can happen again if this 00:21:00
happened once can happen again if this 00:21:03
happened once can happen again if this world started at some time supposing 00:21:03
world started at some time supposing 00:21:06
world started at some time supposing there was a colossal explosion which set 00:21:06
there was a colossal explosion which set 00:21:08
there was a colossal explosion which set all these galaxies flying out then a 00:21:08
all these galaxies flying out then a 00:21:11
all these galaxies flying out then a what existed before that explosion must 00:21:11
what existed before that explosion must 00:21:14
what existed before that explosion must surely have been something like the 00:21:14
surely have been something like the 00:21:15
surely have been something like the stable state to which we shall run down 00:21:16
stable state to which we shall run down 00:21:18
stable state to which we shall run down in the end and if it went bang once 00:21:18
in the end and if it went bang once 00:21:21
in the end and if it went bang once there's absolutely no reason why it 00:21:21
there's absolutely no reason why it 00:21:22
there's absolutely no reason why it shouldn't go bang again I suppose there 00:21:22
shouldn't go bang again I suppose there 00:21:28
shouldn't go bang again I suppose there are temperaments in logic I have a 00:21:28
are temperaments in logic I have a 00:21:33
are temperaments in logic I have a temperament whereby I just cannot it 00:21:33
temperament whereby I just cannot it 00:21:37
temperament whereby I just cannot it mean it seems to me absolutely basic 00:21:37
mean it seems to me absolutely basic 00:21:39
mean it seems to me absolutely basic that what happened once can happen again 00:21:39
that what happened once can happen again 00:21:40
that what happened once can happen again but there are other people who so 00:21:40
but there are other people who so 00:21:44
but there are other people who so cherished the unique that they can 00:21:44
cherished the unique that they can 00:21:47
cherished the unique that they can conceive the idea of something like 00:21:47
conceive the idea of something like 00:21:50
conceive the idea of something like existence happening only once but you 00:21:50
existence happening only once but you 00:21:54
existence happening only once but you see something that happens only once 00:21:54
see something that happens only once 00:21:56
see something that happens only once doesn't happen at all 00:21:56
doesn't happen at all 00:21:59
doesn't happen at all what happens if you a given sound 00:21:59
what happens if you a given sound 00:22:03
what happens if you a given sound consists of only one vibration what is 00:22:03
consists of only one vibration what is 00:22:08
consists of only one vibration what is the up crest of a wave apart from the 00:22:08
the up crest of a wave apart from the 00:22:11
the up crest of a wave apart from the down crest can you conceive that that's 00:22:11
down crest can you conceive that that's 00:22:13
down crest can you conceive that that's the same Cohen as what is the sound of 00:22:13
the same Cohen as what is the sound of 00:22:16
the same Cohen as what is the sound of one hand you see it always takes two you 00:22:16
one hand you see it always takes two you 00:22:28
one hand you see it always takes two you can't have a purely left-sided person 00:22:28
imagine 00:22:35
imagine 00:22:38
imagine so in this way just as you can't have 00:22:38
so in this way just as you can't have 00:22:44
so in this way just as you can't have just one vibration I mean it's like 00:22:44
just one vibration I mean it's like 00:22:46
just one vibration I mean it's like we're saying the greatest strength of 00:22:46
we're saying the greatest strength of 00:22:47
we're saying the greatest strength of mind is to eat one peanut and and so you 00:22:47
mind is to eat one peanut and and so you 00:22:53
mind is to eat one peanut and and so you can hardly be done so there isn't just 00:22:53
can hardly be done so there isn't just 00:22:59
can hardly be done so there isn't just one vibration and add it but no dahhh 00:22:59
one vibration and add it but no dahhh 00:23:05
one vibration and add it but no dahhh sort of thing you you have to have it do 00:23:05
sort of thing you you have to have it do 00:23:11
sort of thing you you have to have it do more so in the din just the same way 00:23:11
more so in the din just the same way 00:23:13
more so in the din just the same way when you magnify this principle there 00:23:13
when you magnify this principle there 00:23:15
when you magnify this principle there isn't just one cosmos a one big 00:23:15
isn't just one cosmos a one big 00:23:18
isn't just one cosmos a one big explosion that starts and stops all 00:23:18
explosion that starts and stops all 00:23:24
explosion that starts and stops all stopping implies starting 00:23:24
someone just wrote to me we haven't 00:23:28
someone just wrote to me we haven't 00:23:30
someone just wrote to me we haven't parted because we never met 00:23:30
parted because we never met 00:23:32
parted because we never met [Laughter] 00:23:32
so the whole point of saying this is the 00:23:41
so the whole point of saying this is the 00:23:45
so the whole point of saying this is the realization that existence is eternal 00:23:45
realization that existence is eternal 00:23:49
realization that existence is eternal [Music] 00:23:49
[Music] 00:23:52
[Music] they're going out of existence implies 00:23:52
they're going out of existence implies 00:23:54
they're going out of existence implies for coming in 00:23:54
and some Thomas had some points here 00:23:59
and some Thomas had some points here 00:24:02
and some Thomas had some points here when he said there could never have been 00:24:02
when he said there could never have been 00:24:07
when he said there could never have been a time when there was not being because 00:24:07
a time when there was not being because 00:24:11
a time when there was not being because if there had been a time when there was 00:24:11
if there had been a time when there was 00:24:13
if there had been a time when there was nothing there was nothing in nothing to 00:24:13
nothing there was nothing in nothing to 00:24:15
nothing there was nothing in nothing to produce something but he didn't quite 00:24:15
produce something but he didn't quite 00:24:20
produce something but he didn't quite have the point because what he didn't 00:24:20
have the point because what he didn't 00:24:23
have the point because what he didn't see was that nothing is productive in 00:24:23
see was that nothing is productive in 00:24:27
see was that nothing is productive in the sense that you can't have nothing 00:24:27
the sense that you can't have nothing 00:24:29
the sense that you can't have nothing without something they go together and 00:24:29
without something they go together and 00:24:34
without something they go together and all this thing is an argument again 00:24:34
all this thing is an argument again 00:24:37
all this thing is an argument again about whether the zebra is yellow 00:24:37
about whether the zebra is yellow 00:24:40
about whether the zebra is yellow striped black or black stripe yellow and 00:24:40
striped black or black stripe yellow and 00:24:45
striped black or black stripe yellow and what we see is that the black and the 00:24:45
what we see is that the black and the 00:24:51
what we see is that the black and the yellow the darkness and the light 00:24:51
are simply two phases of the same and 00:24:55
are simply two phases of the same and 00:24:58
are simply two phases of the same and that realization is exactly what 00:24:58
that realization is exactly what 00:25:04
that realization is exactly what transforms anxiety into laughter 00:25:04
suddenly to see that you just after all 00:25:09
suddenly to see that you just after all 00:25:16
suddenly to see that you just after all this anxiety that you don't have 00:25:16
this anxiety that you don't have 00:25:20
this anxiety that you don't have anything to worry about 00:25:20
now that doesn't mean 00:25:26
that there will not in our future lie 00:25:31
that there will not in our future lie 00:25:35
that there will not in our future lie some extremely painful experiences or 00:25:35
some extremely painful experiences or 00:25:38
some extremely painful experiences or experiences that we would ordinarily 00:25:38
experiences that we would ordinarily 00:25:40
experiences that we would ordinarily interpret as horribly painful 00:25:40
interpret as horribly painful 00:25:42
interpret as horribly painful [Music] 00:25:42
[Music] 00:25:45
[Music] we may all die of ghastly diseases or of 00:25:45
we may all die of ghastly diseases or of 00:25:50
we may all die of ghastly diseases or of radiation burns or of unimaginable 00:25:50
radiation burns or of unimaginable 00:25:53
radiation burns or of unimaginable things but look here I very briefly 00:25:53
things but look here I very briefly 00:26:00
things but look here I very briefly touched on pain yesterday and the way 00:26:00
touched on pain yesterday and the way 00:26:03
touched on pain yesterday and the way pain is interpreted if if you interpret 00:26:03
pain is interpreted if if you interpret 00:26:14
pain is interpreted if if you interpret pain as something that is destroying you 00:26:14
pain as something that is destroying you 00:26:18
pain as something that is destroying you and is going in the direction of total 00:26:18
and is going in the direction of total 00:26:21
and is going in the direction of total death then it's very serious indeed and 00:26:21
death then it's very serious indeed and 00:26:28
death then it's very serious indeed and it's perfectly terrifying but I've been 00:26:28
it's perfectly terrifying but I've been 00:26:34
it's perfectly terrifying but I've been investigating experiences of people 00:26:34
investigating experiences of people 00:26:36
investigating experiences of people who've undergone torture 00:26:36
I don't know if anybody in this room has 00:26:40
I don't know if anybody in this room has 00:26:44
I don't know if anybody in this room has it's always possible but and then if so 00:26:44
it's always possible but and then if so 00:26:48
it's always possible but and then if so you can correct me but the worst part of 00:26:48
you can correct me but the worst part of 00:26:53
you can correct me but the worst part of torture is the beginning when it costs 00:26:53
torture is the beginning when it costs 00:26:57
torture is the beginning when it costs you're full of all your illusions and 00:26:57
you're full of all your illusions and 00:26:59
you're full of all your illusions and all your fears about black and white and 00:26:59
all your fears about black and white and 00:27:04
all your fears about black and white and the terror that black may win but it's 00:27:04
the terror that black may win but it's 00:27:08
the terror that black may win but it's said that as torture proceeds it slowly 00:27:08
said that as torture proceeds it slowly 00:27:12
said that as torture proceeds it slowly changes the state of mind of the victim 00:27:12
changes the state of mind of the victim 00:27:15
changes the state of mind of the victim to a kind of drunken masochistic giving 00:27:15
to a kind of drunken masochistic giving 00:27:21
to a kind of drunken masochistic giving in to the torture so that it becomes 00:27:21
in to the torture so that it becomes 00:27:27
in to the torture so that it becomes something that he cooperates with 00:27:27
something that he cooperates with 00:27:30
something that he cooperates with and that if the the torturer are notices 00:27:30
and that if the the torturer are notices 00:27:34
and that if the the torturer are notices this he knows he's through and has to 00:27:34
this he knows he's through and has to 00:27:36
this he knows he's through and has to kill him so 00:27:36
kill him so 00:27:42
kill him so [Music] 00:27:42
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[Music] in other words there is a point at which 00:27:45
in other words there is a point at which 00:27:49
in other words there is a point at which pain becomes an experience without 00:27:49
pain becomes an experience without 00:27:56
pain becomes an experience without having a negative interpretation put 00:27:56
having a negative interpretation put 00:27:59
having a negative interpretation put upon it becomes in other words converted 00:27:59
upon it becomes in other words converted 00:28:02
upon it becomes in other words converted into ecstasy 00:28:02
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[Music] it simply becomes you see a way of going 00:28:08
it simply becomes you see a way of going 00:28:15
it simply becomes you see a way of going through extraordinarily far out 00:28:15
through extraordinarily far out 00:28:19
through extraordinarily far out sensations which have no meaning if they 00:28:19
sensations which have no meaning if they 00:28:24
sensations which have no meaning if they have meaning the meaning of threats the 00:28:24
have meaning the meaning of threats the 00:28:26
have meaning the meaning of threats the meaning of death looming at the end and 00:28:26
meaning of death looming at the end and 00:28:30
meaning of death looming at the end and you know this is the tearing apart and 00:28:30
you know this is the tearing apart and 00:28:32
you know this is the tearing apart and the destruction of you then you see it 00:28:32
the destruction of you then you see it 00:28:37
the destruction of you then you see it is absolutely horrendous but if it has 00:28:37
is absolutely horrendous but if it has 00:28:41
is absolutely horrendous but if it has no meaning at all just transpose 00:28:41
no meaning at all just transpose 00:28:46
no meaning at all just transpose yourself into another dimension to 00:28:46
yourself into another dimension to 00:28:47
yourself into another dimension to illustrate it because what the dimension 00:28:47
illustrate it because what the dimension 00:28:50
illustrate it because what the dimension I'm talking about very tough one but 00:28:50
I'm talking about very tough one but 00:28:52
I'm talking about very tough one but let's go back to a simpler one 00:28:52
let's go back to a simpler one 00:28:54
let's go back to a simpler one let's take sounds now if you lie down 00:28:54
let's take sounds now if you lie down 00:29:00
let's take sounds now if you lie down and listen to all the goings on in this 00:29:00
and listen to all the goings on in this 00:29:04
and listen to all the goings on in this area and you'll hear planes moving in 00:29:04
area and you'll hear planes moving in 00:29:07
area and you'll hear planes moving in cars and foghorns and all kinds of crazy 00:29:07
cars and foghorns and all kinds of crazy 00:29:11
cars and foghorns and all kinds of crazy sounds you see people this way and that 00:29:11
sounds you see people this way and that 00:29:14
sounds you see people this way and that song and you could listen to that and 00:29:14
song and you could listen to that and 00:29:16
song and you could listen to that and find it very interesting very beautiful 00:29:16
find it very interesting very beautiful 00:29:20
find it very interesting very beautiful but if someone were to do what John Cage 00:29:20
but if someone were to do what John Cage 00:29:24
but if someone were to do what John Cage does and put you in a concert hall with 00:29:24
does and put you in a concert hall with 00:29:27
does and put you in a concert hall with the expectation of hearing music and by 00:29:27
the expectation of hearing music and by 00:29:30
the expectation of hearing music and by having a purely silent playing of the 00:29:30
having a purely silent playing of the 00:29:32
having a purely silent playing of the piano compel you instead to listen to 00:29:32
piano compel you instead to listen to 00:29:35
piano compel you instead to listen to all the sounds going on around you you 00:29:35
all the sounds going on around you you 00:29:38
all the sounds going on around you you would be shocked and feel that some kind 00:29:39
would be shocked and feel that some kind 00:29:41
would be shocked and feel that some kind of avant-garde hoax had been perpetrated 00:29:41
you see it depends on the set on the way 00:29:48
you see it depends on the set on the way 00:29:52
you see it depends on the set on the way you approach the experience now you can 00:29:52
you approach the experience now you can 00:29:58
you approach the experience now you can listen to sounds that are ordinarily 00:29:58
listen to sounds that are ordinarily 00:30:00
listen to sounds that are ordinarily considered unpleasant in a totally 00:30:00
considered unpleasant in a totally 00:30:03
considered unpleasant in a totally unprejudiced way you can listen to the 00:30:03
unprejudiced way you can listen to the 00:30:09
unprejudiced way you can listen to the discordant musical noises and find them 00:30:09
discordant musical noises and find them 00:30:16
discordant musical noises and find them extremely interesting if you listen 00:30:16
extremely interesting if you listen 00:30:18
extremely interesting if you listen carefully enough 00:30:18
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you [Music] 00:30:37