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we'll begin by refreshing memories as to 00:00:10
we'll begin by refreshing memories as to 00:00:15
we'll begin by refreshing memories as to what went before in discussing the theme 00:00:15
what went before in discussing the theme 00:00:18
what went before in discussing the theme of the Joker I have been talking about a 00:00:18
of the Joker I have been talking about a 00:00:23
of the Joker I have been talking about a point of view The Joker's point of view 00:00:23
point of view The Joker's point of view 00:00:27
point of view The Joker's point of view from which not only our social 00:00:27
from which not only our social 00:00:31
from which not only our social institutions but also all the formations 00:00:31
institutions but also all the formations 00:00:34
institutions but also all the formations of the natural world are seen as games 00:00:34
be careful of the word game it doesn't 00:00:40
be careful of the word game it doesn't 00:00:45
be careful of the word game it doesn't mean as trivialities because when we say 00:00:45
mean as trivialities because when we say 00:00:49
mean as trivialities because when we say it's just a game this often means it is 00:00:49
it's just a game this often means it is 00:00:53
it's just a game this often means it is just trivial there can be important 00:00:53
just trivial there can be important 00:00:59
just trivial there can be important games as when we play the piano or 00:00:59
games as when we play the piano or 00:01:04
games as when we play the piano or musical instruments we are not 00:01:04
musical instruments we are not 00:01:07
musical instruments we are not necessarily doing something frivolous 00:01:07
necessarily doing something frivolous 00:01:08
necessarily doing something frivolous but we are playing and there is 00:01:08
but we are playing and there is 00:01:13
but we are playing and there is something in the nature of all play that 00:01:13
something in the nature of all play that 00:01:17
something in the nature of all play that is not serious but at the same time may 00:01:17
is not serious but at the same time may 00:01:20
is not serious but at the same time may be sincere and I try to give you the 00:01:20
be sincere and I try to give you the 00:01:26
be sincere and I try to give you the picture of the multiplicity of natural 00:01:26
picture of the multiplicity of natural 00:01:30
picture of the multiplicity of natural forms on the one hand and of human 00:01:30
forms on the one hand and of human 00:01:33
forms on the one hand and of human social institutions and all the things 00:01:33
social institutions and all the things 00:01:36
social institutions and all the things that we do and consider important and 00:01:36
that we do and consider important and 00:01:38
that we do and consider important and busy ourselves with as human beings I 00:01:38
busy ourselves with as human beings I 00:01:41
busy ourselves with as human beings I try to give you the point of view from 00:01:41
try to give you the point of view from 00:01:43
try to give you the point of view from which these can be seen as games as 00:01:43
which these can be seen as games as 00:01:45
which these can be seen as games as things being done as it were simply for 00:01:45
things being done as it were simply for 00:01:49
things being done as it were simply for themselves and not for some ulterior 00:01:49
themselves and not for some ulterior 00:01:56
themselves and not for some ulterior motive and therefore these games are in 00:01:56
motive and therefore these games are in 00:02:03
motive and therefore these games are in a way best played when they are played 00:02:03
a way best played when they are played 00:02:05
a way best played when they are played as games 00:02:05
although it's really all right for 00:02:10
although it's really all right for 00:02:14
although it's really all right for people to take them seriously except 00:02:14
people to take them seriously except 00:02:16
people to take them seriously except that they are a little bit deprived 00:02:16
that they are a little bit deprived 00:02:20
that they are a little bit deprived they're missing something and so when 00:02:20
they're missing something and so when 00:02:24
they're missing something and so when the Joker sees a person taking his life 00:02:24
the Joker sees a person taking his life 00:02:27
the Joker sees a person taking his life seriously and regarding himself as 00:02:27
seriously and regarding himself as 00:02:30
seriously and regarding himself as extremely important there is something a 00:02:30
extremely important there is something a 00:02:33
extremely important there is something a little bit funny about it and he is 00:02:33
little bit funny about it and he is 00:02:35
little bit funny about it and he is inclined to get the giggles and it's 00:02:35
inclined to get the giggles and it's 00:02:44
inclined to get the giggles and it's it's all he knows that the very 00:02:44
it's all he knows that the very 00:02:46
it's all he knows that the very intensity of seriousness with which the 00:02:46
intensity of seriousness with which the 00:02:50
intensity of seriousness with which the individuals concerned are taking these 00:02:50
individuals concerned are taking these 00:02:52
individuals concerned are taking these games will be a kind of foil for the 00:02:52
games will be a kind of foil for the 00:02:57
games will be a kind of foil for the subsequent bursting into laughter when 00:02:57
subsequent bursting into laughter when 00:03:04
subsequent bursting into laughter when he sees that it wasn't serious after all 00:03:04
he sees that it wasn't serious after all 00:03:06
he sees that it wasn't serious after all you see that you might say there are 00:03:06
you see that you might say there are 00:03:10
you see that you might say there are these classes of people there are the 00:03:10
these classes of people there are the 00:03:12
these classes of people there are the very far out people and the very far in 00:03:12
very far out people and the very far in 00:03:15
very far out people and the very far in people now ordinarily we say someone's 00:03:15
people now ordinarily we say someone's 00:03:19
people now ordinarily we say someone's very far out when they are oddballs when 00:03:19
very far out when they are oddballs when 00:03:24
very far out when they are oddballs when they are exceedingly unconventional but 00:03:24
they are exceedingly unconventional but 00:03:27
they are exceedingly unconventional but I want you to turn the picture round and 00:03:27
I want you to turn the picture round and 00:03:29
I want you to turn the picture round and look as a conventional person look at a 00:03:29
look as a conventional person look at a 00:03:32
look as a conventional person look at a square as a person who's very far out 00:03:32
square as a person who's very far out 00:03:35
square as a person who's very far out that is to say he is so involved in the 00:03:35
that is to say he is so involved in the 00:03:40
that is to say he is so involved in the seriousness of the game he is playing 00:03:40
seriousness of the game he is playing 00:03:42
seriousness of the game he is playing that he is lost he doesn't know where he 00:03:42
that he is lost he doesn't know where he 00:03:45
that he is lost he doesn't know where he started from and he thinks he's there 00:03:45
but he's completely lost because he is 00:03:49
but he's completely lost because he is 00:03:53
but he's completely lost because he is actually under the cover of his 00:03:53
actually under the cover of his 00:03:57
actually under the cover of his assurance of his status of his position 00:03:57
assurance of his status of his position 00:04:00
assurance of his status of his position in society he's really a very anxious 00:04:00
in society he's really a very anxious 00:04:03
in society he's really a very anxious person I said a lot yesterday about the 00:04:03
person I said a lot yesterday about the 00:04:06
person I said a lot yesterday about the way in which our society shows anxiety 00:04:06
way in which our society shows anxiety 00:04:09
way in which our society shows anxiety because it cannot commit the existence 00:04:09
because it cannot commit the existence 00:04:11
because it cannot commit the existence of people who don't belong and it cannot 00:04:11
of people who don't belong and it cannot 00:04:15
of people who don't belong and it cannot really permit the criticism of laughter 00:04:15
really permit the criticism of laughter 00:04:18
really permit the criticism of laughter it cannot commit the presence of the 00:04:18
it cannot commit the presence of the 00:04:20
it cannot commit the presence of the old-fashioned court jester 00:04:20
old-fashioned court jester 00:04:23
old-fashioned court jester because these people are so far out 00:04:23
because these people are so far out 00:04:26
because these people are so far out there so involved and one from a certain 00:04:26
there so involved and one from a certain 00:04:31
there so involved and one from a certain standpoint you see from the Joker 00:04:31
standpoint you see from the Joker 00:04:32
standpoint you see from the Joker standpoint he doesn't condemn such 00:04:32
standpoint he doesn't condemn such 00:04:35
standpoint he doesn't condemn such people he rather congratulate them on 00:04:35
people he rather congratulate them on 00:04:37
people he rather congratulate them on their heroism for getting so lost and 00:04:37
their heroism for getting so lost and 00:04:41
their heroism for getting so lost and involved but to keep the far-out people 00:04:41
involved but to keep the far-out people 00:04:45
involved but to keep the far-out people from going quite insane there have to be 00:04:45
from going quite insane there have to be 00:04:49
from going quite insane there have to be far in people and the far in people are 00:04:49
far in people and the far in people are 00:04:53
far in people and the far in people are those who keep contact with the original 00:04:53
those who keep contact with the original 00:04:57
those who keep contact with the original goings on behind the scenes they are 00:04:57
goings on behind the scenes they are 00:05:02
goings on behind the scenes they are like the prompter in the theater where 00:05:02
like the prompter in the theater where 00:05:04
like the prompter in the theater where there are the actors out on the stage 00:05:04
there are the actors out on the stage 00:05:06
there are the actors out on the stage relying on their memories etc and 00:05:06
relying on their memories etc and 00:05:08
relying on their memories etc and they're supposed to get completely 00:05:08
they're supposed to get completely 00:05:10
they're supposed to get completely involved in the play but there's a 00:05:10
involved in the play but there's a 00:05:12
involved in the play but there's a concealed prompter with the script in 00:05:12
concealed prompter with the script in 00:05:14
concealed prompter with the script in front of him and he is the connection of 00:05:14
front of him and he is the connection of 00:05:17
front of him and he is the connection of the actor on the stage with the green 00:05:17
the actor on the stage with the green 00:05:20
the actor on the stage with the green room behind the stage and you see in in 00:05:20
room behind the stage and you see in in 00:05:24
room behind the stage and you see in in this dramatic analogy of the universe 00:05:24
this dramatic analogy of the universe 00:05:28
this dramatic analogy of the universe the green room is the central point the 00:05:28
the green room is the central point the 00:05:33
the green room is the central point the still point of the turning world the 00:05:33
still point of the turning world the 00:05:35
still point of the turning world the green room is how God is when he's back 00:05:35
green room is how God is when he's back 00:05:40
green room is how God is when he's back home not involved in all these games and 00:05:40
home not involved in all these games and 00:05:43
home not involved in all these games and takes off the mask see on the Hindu 00:05:43
takes off the mask see on the Hindu 00:05:48
takes off the mask see on the Hindu theory that everybody is a mask of God 00:05:48
theory that everybody is a mask of God 00:05:50
theory that everybody is a mask of God the like wonderful line in one of 00:05:50
the like wonderful line in one of 00:05:54
the like wonderful line in one of chesterton's poems and now a great thing 00:05:54
chesterton's poems and now a great thing 00:05:57
chesterton's poems and now a great thing in the street seems any human nod we're 00:05:57
in the street seems any human nod we're 00:05:59
in the street seems any human nod we're moving strange democracy the million 00:05:59
moving strange democracy the million 00:06:02
moving strange democracy the million masks of God the million masks of the 00:06:02
masks of God the million masks of the 00:06:05
masks of God the million masks of the Joker because the Joker is the player 00:06:05
Joker because the Joker is the player 00:06:08
Joker because the Joker is the player the trick player who plays ultimately 00:06:08
the trick player who plays ultimately 00:06:11
the trick player who plays ultimately the great trick on himself so really 00:06:11
the great trick on himself so really 00:06:15
the great trick on himself so really there can be no resentment about this 00:06:15
there can be no resentment about this 00:06:17
there can be no resentment about this nobody to blame nobody to turn around do 00:06:17
nobody to blame nobody to turn around do 00:06:20
nobody to blame nobody to turn around do in the end and say you you bastard you 00:06:20
in the end and say you you bastard you 00:06:22
in the end and say you you bastard you did this to me because it's always you 00:06:22
did this to me because it's always you 00:06:25
did this to me because it's always you were ultimately responsible so this 00:06:25
were ultimately responsible so this 00:06:31
were ultimately responsible so this prompter you see keeps the actor on the 00:06:31
prompter you see keeps the actor on the 00:06:34
prompter you see keeps the actor on the stage in touch with the green room and 00:06:34
stage in touch with the green room and 00:06:35
stage in touch with the green room and so there are certain people 00:06:35
so there are certain people 00:06:37
so there are certain people the world who might be a kind of a 00:06:37
the world who might be a kind of a 00:06:40
the world who might be a kind of a priesthood sometimes although 00:06:40
priesthood sometimes although 00:06:41
priesthood sometimes although priesthoods are apt to become corrupt 00:06:41
priesthoods are apt to become corrupt 00:06:43
priesthoods are apt to become corrupt and square but they're kind of people in 00:06:43
and square but they're kind of people in 00:06:48
and square but they're kind of people in the know there always has to be somebody 00:06:48
the know there always has to be somebody 00:06:51
the know there always has to be somebody around in the know so that as it were 00:06:51
around in the know so that as it were 00:06:56
around in the know so that as it were the wheel of society and of existence 00:06:56
the wheel of society and of existence 00:06:59
the wheel of society and of existence the wheel of the squirrel cage the wheel 00:06:59
the wheel of the squirrel cage the wheel 00:07:01
the wheel of the squirrel cage the wheel of the rat race can have an axle firmly 00:07:01
of the rat race can have an axle firmly 00:07:04
of the rat race can have an axle firmly planted and at the center then there has 00:07:04
planted and at the center then there has 00:07:08
planted and at the center then there has to be the far in people so this is the 00:07:08
to be the far in people so this is the 00:07:11
to be the far in people so this is the domain of Joker's now having developed 00:07:11
domain of Joker's now having developed 00:07:17
domain of Joker's now having developed that side of the Joker the person who 00:07:17
that side of the Joker the person who 00:07:20
that side of the Joker the person who sees through the social institutions of 00:07:20
sees through the social institutions of 00:07:24
sees through the social institutions of games I went on in the second session to 00:07:24
games I went on in the second session to 00:07:29
games I went on in the second session to discuss another aspect of the Joker as 00:07:29
discuss another aspect of the Joker as 00:07:31
discuss another aspect of the Joker as the sly man in comparison with the monk 00:07:31
the sly man in comparison with the monk 00:07:35
the sly man in comparison with the monk the fakir and the yogi who undertakes 00:07:35
the fakir and the yogi who undertakes 00:07:39
the fakir and the yogi who undertakes all those three undertake in certain 00:07:39
all those three undertake in certain 00:07:42
all those three undertake in certain different ways disciplines which have 00:07:42
different ways disciplines which have 00:07:48
different ways disciplines which have the intent of releasing them from their 00:07:48
the intent of releasing them from their 00:07:50
the intent of releasing them from their karma the individual in other words 00:07:50
karma the individual in other words 00:07:55
karma the individual in other words challenges his involvement his 00:07:55
challenges his involvement his 00:07:59
challenges his involvement his attachments his limitations his fine 00:07:59
attachments his limitations his fine 00:08:01
attachments his limitations his fine itude and endeavours to overcome it but 00:08:01
itude and endeavours to overcome it but 00:08:06
itude and endeavours to overcome it but in each of these three cases the 00:08:06
in each of these three cases the 00:08:08
in each of these three cases the individual involved stirs up an immense 00:08:08
individual involved stirs up an immense 00:08:11
individual involved stirs up an immense opposition because he serves notice upon 00:08:11
opposition because he serves notice upon 00:08:16
opposition because he serves notice upon the devil or shall we say upon his 00:08:16
the devil or shall we say upon his 00:08:20
the devil or shall we say upon his karmic creditors that he is about to 00:08:20
karmic creditors that he is about to 00:08:22
karmic creditors that he is about to leave town and so all the creditors come 00:08:22
leave town and so all the creditors come 00:08:27
leave town and so all the creditors come rushing to the door all his past sins 00:08:27
rushing to the door all his past sins 00:08:30
rushing to the door all his past sins catch up with him and the devil lays his 00:08:30
catch up with him and the devil lays his 00:08:34
catch up with him and the devil lays his temptations in the way all the more 00:08:34
temptations in the way all the more 00:08:36
temptations in the way all the more thoroughly so that the sly man is the 00:08:36
thoroughly so that the sly man is the 00:08:40
thoroughly so that the sly man is the one who when he is going to leave town 00:08:40
one who when he is going to leave town 00:08:42
one who when he is going to leave town does so instantaneously without any 00:08:42
does so instantaneously without any 00:08:45
does so instantaneously without any prior announcement and so in this way 00:08:45
prior announcement and so in this way 00:08:50
prior announcement and so in this way that 00:08:50
that 00:08:51
that is shall we say a cunning manner of 00:08:51
is shall we say a cunning manner of 00:08:55
is shall we say a cunning manner of becoming a Buddha and that is to become 00:08:55
becoming a Buddha and that is to become 00:09:00
becoming a Buddha and that is to become one instantly without any preparation or 00:09:00
one instantly without any preparation or 00:09:04
one instantly without any preparation or warning whatsoever this is why Zen is 00:09:04
warning whatsoever this is why Zen is 00:09:07
warning whatsoever this is why Zen is called the sudden school and why Satori 00:09:07
called the sudden school and why Satori 00:09:11
called the sudden school and why Satori is a sudden awakening because it has to 00:09:11
is a sudden awakening because it has to 00:09:18
is a sudden awakening because it has to be done without the slightest warning 00:09:18
be done without the slightest warning 00:09:22
be done without the slightest warning now but then I pointed out that the 00:09:22
now but then I pointed out that the 00:09:29
now but then I pointed out that the moment you have any idea about doing 00:09:29
moment you have any idea about doing 00:09:33
moment you have any idea about doing this you've already ceased to be sudden 00:09:33
this you've already ceased to be sudden 00:09:37
this you've already ceased to be sudden that is to say the moment you seek for 00:09:37
that is to say the moment you seek for 00:09:42
that is to say the moment you seek for some spiritual attainment which is 00:09:42
some spiritual attainment which is 00:09:45
some spiritual attainment which is becoming a Buddha becoming awakened 00:09:45
becoming a Buddha becoming awakened 00:09:47
becoming a Buddha becoming awakened becoming release getting in there you've 00:09:47
becoming release getting in there you've 00:09:52
becoming release getting in there you've already served notice upon your 00:09:52
already served notice upon your 00:09:53
already served notice upon your creditors so that somehow or other you 00:09:53
creditors so that somehow or other you 00:09:57
creditors so that somehow or other you find that you have to do it without 00:09:57
find that you have to do it without 00:09:59
find that you have to do it without intending to do it and that is a double 00:09:59
intending to do it and that is a double 00:10:04
intending to do it and that is a double bind where would you impose upon 00:10:04
bind where would you impose upon 00:10:08
bind where would you impose upon yourself when you say I must find a way 00:10:08
yourself when you say I must find a way 00:10:12
yourself when you say I must find a way of doing this spontaneously that's the 00:10:12
of doing this spontaneously that's the 00:10:16
of doing this spontaneously that's the old old basic double bind you must be 00:10:16
old old basic double bind you must be 00:10:20
old old basic double bind you must be spontaneous you are commanded or you 00:10:20
spontaneous you are commanded or you 00:10:25
spontaneous you are commanded or you command yourself to do something which 00:10:25
command yourself to do something which 00:10:27
command yourself to do something which is acceptable only if it happens 00:10:27
is acceptable only if it happens 00:10:29
is acceptable only if it happens spontaneously then you think about that 00:10:29
spontaneously then you think about that 00:10:34
spontaneously then you think about that and say well well well what a fix that 00:10:34
and say well well well what a fix that 00:10:37
and say well well well what a fix that is here am I saying I must be surprised 00:10:37
is here am I saying I must be surprised 00:10:43
is here am I saying I must be surprised and I'm going to lay plans to surprise 00:10:43
and I'm going to lay plans to surprise 00:10:45
and I'm going to lay plans to surprise myself so by going through this you 00:10:45
myself so by going through this you 00:10:53
myself so by going through this you discover of naturally that that can't be 00:10:53
discover of naturally that that can't be 00:10:55
discover of naturally that that can't be done you can't surprise yourself on 00:10:55
done you can't surprise yourself on 00:10:59
done you can't surprise yourself on purpose yet that's what you have to do 00:10:59
so what about it you come to a state of 00:11:04
so what about it you come to a state of 00:11:07
so what about it you come to a state of total paralysis you're stuck 00:11:07
the one thing that is terribly important 00:11:18
the one thing that is terribly important 00:11:21
the one thing that is terribly important to be done can't be done it has to 00:11:21
to be done can't be done it has to 00:11:24
to be done can't be done it has to happen it really does if your earnest 00:11:24
happen it really does if your earnest 00:11:26
happen it really does if your earnest about this you want to get out of the 00:11:26
about this you want to get out of the 00:11:28
about this you want to get out of the trap but you can't do anything about it 00:11:28
trap but you can't do anything about it 00:11:32
trap but you can't do anything about it either actively or passively but then as 00:11:32
either actively or passively but then as 00:11:40
either actively or passively but then as you begin to see what you are doing all 00:11:40
you begin to see what you are doing all 00:11:44
you begin to see what you are doing all the time you notice a very odd fact 00:11:44
the time you notice a very odd fact 00:11:47
the time you notice a very odd fact which is that you can't help being 00:11:47
which is that you can't help being 00:11:51
which is that you can't help being spontaneous if i say to you good morning 00:11:51
spontaneous if i say to you good morning 00:11:57
spontaneous if i say to you good morning and you say good morning what is that 00:11:57
and you say good morning what is that 00:12:00
and you say good morning what is that did you plan this answer did you make 00:12:00
did you plan this answer did you make 00:12:06
did you plan this answer did you make preparations to grow your hair do you 00:12:06
preparations to grow your hair do you 00:12:09
preparations to grow your hair do you make decisions about having blue eyes 00:12:09
you see about breathing is this all 00:12:15
you see about breathing is this all 00:12:19
you see about breathing is this all planned about beating your heart and 00:12:19
planned about beating your heart and 00:12:21
planned about beating your heart and what about your thinking even if it's 00:12:21
what about your thinking even if it's 00:12:24
what about your thinking even if it's very blocked thinking even if you feel 00:12:24
very blocked thinking even if you feel 00:12:27
very blocked thinking even if you feel from a certain point of view that you're 00:12:27
from a certain point of view that you're 00:12:29
from a certain point of view that you're all mixed up what is going on anyway you 00:12:29
all mixed up what is going on anyway you 00:12:33
all mixed up what is going on anyway you see you can't stop it it's like trying 00:12:33
see you can't stop it it's like trying 00:12:37
see you can't stop it it's like trying to we were discussing a good Jeff thing 00:12:37
to we were discussing a good Jeff thing 00:12:41
to we were discussing a good Jeff thing yesterday the self remembering exercise 00:12:41
yesterday the self remembering exercise 00:12:43
yesterday the self remembering exercise the attempt to live completely in the 00:12:43
the attempt to live completely in the 00:12:46
the attempt to live completely in the present well that's not only a good Jeff 00:12:46
present well that's not only a good Jeff 00:12:50
present well that's not only a good Jeff idea that's a very ancient yoga and 00:12:50
idea that's a very ancient yoga and 00:12:52
idea that's a very ancient yoga and Buddhist discipline to be completely 00:12:52
Buddhist discipline to be completely 00:12:56
Buddhist discipline to be completely here and now but of course as you pursue 00:12:56
here and now but of course as you pursue 00:12:59
here and now but of course as you pursue this you discover you can't do it 00:12:59
this you discover you can't do it 00:13:00
this you discover you can't do it because you couldn't even you know know 00:13:00
because you couldn't even you know know 00:13:05
because you couldn't even you know know when to go shopping unless you made 00:13:05
when to go shopping unless you made 00:13:06
when to go shopping unless you made plans and started thinking about the 00:13:06
plans and started thinking about the 00:13:08
plans and started thinking about the future so you couldn't move but then you 00:13:08
future so you couldn't move but then you 00:13:12
future so you couldn't move but then you discover you see that in the long run 00:13:12
discover you see that in the long run 00:13:15
discover you see that in the long run there's nothing to think about except 00:13:15
there's nothing to think about except 00:13:16
there's nothing to think about except the here and now there isn't anything 00:13:16
the here and now there isn't anything 00:13:20
the here and now there isn't anything else because even when you make plans 00:13:20
else because even when you make plans 00:13:22
else because even when you make plans for the future and you remember the past 00:13:23
for the future and you remember the past 00:13:25
for the future and you remember the past you're doing it all in the present your 00:13:25
you're doing it all in the present your 00:13:27
you're doing it all in the present your memory is the present activity there's 00:13:27
memory is the present activity there's 00:13:30
memory is the present activity there's no way of not being self remembering 00:13:30
no way of not being self remembering 00:13:32
no way of not being self remembering and press having presence of mind so 00:13:32
and press having presence of mind so 00:13:36
and press having presence of mind so when you discover that there's nothing 00:13:36
when you discover that there's nothing 00:13:38
when you discover that there's nothing left to you but to have a good laugh 00:13:38
well now I want to develop to a greater 00:13:44
well now I want to develop to a greater 00:13:51
well now I want to develop to a greater extent something I only touched on 00:13:51
extent something I only touched on 00:13:53
extent something I only touched on yesterday afternoon when we were 00:13:53
yesterday afternoon when we were 00:13:56
yesterday afternoon when we were discussing anxiety and laughter and the 00:13:56
discussing anxiety and laughter and the 00:13:59
discussing anxiety and laughter and the relationship between the two I suggested 00:13:59
relationship between the two I suggested 00:14:04
relationship between the two I suggested that anxiety and laughter are really the 00:14:04
that anxiety and laughter are really the 00:14:06
that anxiety and laughter are really the same phenomenon but seen from different 00:14:06
same phenomenon but seen from different 00:14:10
same phenomenon but seen from different points of view as we all know we can 00:14:10
points of view as we all know we can 00:14:13
points of view as we all know we can have shadows of horror and shadows of 00:14:13
have shadows of horror and shadows of 00:14:15
have shadows of horror and shadows of delight tears of grief and tears of joy 00:14:15
delight tears of grief and tears of joy 00:14:17
delight tears of grief and tears of joy and it's the same shudders and the same 00:14:17
and it's the same shudders and the same 00:14:22
and it's the same shudders and the same tears in either case that they have a 00:14:22
tears in either case that they have a 00:14:23
tears in either case that they have a completely different meaning now life 00:14:23
completely different meaning now life 00:14:27
completely different meaning now life set life is a matter of oscillation 00:14:27
set life is a matter of oscillation 00:14:30
set life is a matter of oscillation light is vibration it's the young I I 00:14:30
light is vibration it's the young I I 00:14:35
light is vibration it's the young I I the whole time and all the way through 00:14:35
the whole time and all the way through 00:14:37
the whole time and all the way through question is how are you going to 00:14:37
question is how are you going to 00:14:38
question is how are you going to interpret that is it tremble tremble 00:14:38
interpret that is it tremble tremble 00:14:41
interpret that is it tremble tremble tremble or is it laughs laughs laughs 00:14:41
that's the that's the great thing and 00:14:47
that's the that's the great thing and 00:14:51
that's the that's the great thing and sometimes it's one and sometimes it's 00:14:51
sometimes it's one and sometimes it's 00:14:55
sometimes it's one and sometimes it's the other so that the the whole thing of 00:14:55
the other so that the the whole thing of 00:15:00
the other so that the the whole thing of the joker is the book that he comes into 00:15:00
the joker is the book that he comes into 00:15:04
the joker is the book that he comes into being as it were at the point when the 00:15:04
being as it were at the point when the 00:15:08
being as it were at the point when the anxiety interpretation of the trembling 00:15:08
anxiety interpretation of the trembling 00:15:10
anxiety interpretation of the trembling becomes the laughing interpretation we 00:15:10
becomes the laughing interpretation we 00:15:16
becomes the laughing interpretation we were talking about monks who had skulls 00:15:16
were talking about monks who had skulls 00:15:20
were talking about monks who had skulls on in their cells to remind them of 00:15:20
on in their cells to remind them of 00:15:23
on in their cells to remind them of mortality and we think a grim thing the 00:15:23
mortality and we think a grim thing the 00:15:29
mortality and we think a grim thing the skull is a grim thing but Chesterton had 00:15:29
skull is a grim thing but Chesterton had 00:15:34
skull is a grim thing but Chesterton had the poem about the skirt of the skull 00:15:34
the poem about the skirt of the skull 00:15:38
the poem about the skirt of the skull chattering Finch and water fly are not 00:15:38
chattering Finch and water fly are not 00:15:41
chattering Finch and water fly are not merrier than I here among the flowers I 00:15:41
merrier than I here among the flowers I 00:15:44
merrier than I here among the flowers I lie 00:15:44
lie 00:15:45
lie laughing everlastingly no I may not tell 00:15:45
laughing everlastingly no I may not tell 00:15:50
laughing everlastingly no I may not tell the best surely friends I might have 00:15:50
the best surely friends I might have 00:15:52
the best surely friends I might have guessed death was but the good Kings 00:15:52
guessed death was but the good Kings 00:15:55
guessed death was but the good Kings just it was hid so carefully so you can 00:15:55
just it was hid so carefully so you can 00:16:01
just it was hid so carefully so you can see the skull not as a grim thing but of 00:16:01
see the skull not as a grim thing but of 00:16:03
see the skull not as a grim thing but of the Laughing thing it's all that's left 00:16:03
the Laughing thing it's all that's left 00:16:07
the Laughing thing it's all that's left of a human being and all the the surface 00:16:07
of a human being and all the the surface 00:16:11
of a human being and all the the surface is peeled off and nothing but this 00:16:11
is peeled off and nothing but this 00:16:14
is peeled off and nothing but this beautiful bone remains it lasts now why 00:16:14
beautiful bone remains it lasts now why 00:16:22
beautiful bone remains it lasts now why what is it about death being a jest 00:16:22
we discussed the problem of the zebra 00:16:36
we discussed the problem of the zebra 00:16:39
we discussed the problem of the zebra you remember whether a zebra is a yellow 00:16:39
you remember whether a zebra is a yellow 00:16:42
you remember whether a zebra is a yellow horse with black stripes or a black 00:16:42
horse with black stripes or a black 00:16:44
horse with black stripes or a black horse with yellow stripes and of course 00:16:44
horse with yellow stripes and of course 00:16:50
horse with yellow stripes and of course you can see it either way and you can 00:16:50
you can see it either way and you can 00:16:54
you can see it either way and you can argue till all this blue about which 00:16:54
argue till all this blue about which 00:16:56
argue till all this blue about which side is right and let's suppose that a 00:16:56
side is right and let's suppose that a 00:17:00
side is right and let's suppose that a black horse is a horse of ill omen even 00:17:00
black horse is a horse of ill omen even 00:17:04
black horse is a horse of ill omen even though striped with yellow and a yellow 00:17:04
though striped with yellow and a yellow 00:17:06
though striped with yellow and a yellow horse the horse of joy and good omen 00:17:06
horse the horse of joy and good omen 00:17:08
horse the horse of joy and good omen even those striped with black this is 00:17:08
even those striped with black this is 00:17:12
even those striped with black this is our eternal problem we are in the state 00:17:12
our eternal problem we are in the state 00:17:17
our eternal problem we are in the state of egocentric consciousness firmly 00:17:17
of egocentric consciousness firmly 00:17:20
of egocentric consciousness firmly convinced that death is a threat we are 00:17:20
convinced that death is a threat we are 00:17:30
convinced that death is a threat we are so convinced of this even though 00:17:30
so convinced of this even though 00:17:32
so convinced of this even though individuals may say well I'm not really 00:17:32
individuals may say well I'm not really 00:17:34
individuals may say well I'm not really afraid of death what I'm afraid of is 00:17:34
afraid of death what I'm afraid of is 00:17:36
afraid of death what I'm afraid of is dying in an unpleasant way nevertheless 00:17:36
dying in an unpleasant way nevertheless 00:17:40
dying in an unpleasant way nevertheless since almost all spare moralists and 00:17:40
since almost all spare moralists and 00:17:49
since almost all spare moralists and people concerned with ethics seem to 00:17:49
people concerned with ethics seem to 00:17:54
people concerned with ethics seem to agree whatever their differences of 00:17:54
agree whatever their differences of 00:17:56
agree whatever their differences of opinion that survival is a good thing in 00:17:56
opinion that survival is a good thing in 00:18:00
opinion that survival is a good thing in some sense if not survival in this body 00:18:00
some sense if not survival in this body 00:18:04
some sense if not survival in this body even the most I mean the people who 00:18:04
even the most I mean the people who 00:18:07
even the most I mean the people who would rather be dead than red firmly 00:18:07
would rather be dead than red firmly 00:18:11
would rather be dead than red firmly believe that that is true because they 00:18:11
believe that that is true because they 00:18:14
believe that that is true because they believe there is a hereafter where they 00:18:14
believe there is a hereafter where they 00:18:17
believe there is a hereafter where they can go and where they can be rewarded 00:18:17
can go and where they can be rewarded 00:18:20
can go and where they can be rewarded for the courageous stand against evil 00:18:20
for the courageous stand against evil 00:18:22
for the courageous stand against evil which they have taken you see so that's 00:18:23
which they have taken you see so that's 00:18:26
which they have taken you see so that's still some kind of insistence on the 00:18:26
still some kind of insistence on the 00:18:28
still some kind of insistence on the valley the value of survival and we all 00:18:28
valley the value of survival and we all 00:18:34
valley the value of survival and we all cling to this idea of survival with 00:18:34
cling to this idea of survival with 00:18:38
cling to this idea of survival with tremendous passion but we have been 00:18:38
tremendous passion but we have been 00:18:44
tremendous passion but we have been fooled 00:18:44
fooled 00:18:46
fooled because survival is an important ideal 00:18:46
because survival is an important ideal 00:18:50
because survival is an important ideal only so long as you have bothering you 00:18:50
only so long as you have bothering you 00:18:54
only so long as you have bothering you the bugbear of death that the world 00:18:54
the bugbear of death that the world 00:18:59
the bugbear of death that the world might stop altogether and that your 00:18:59
might stop altogether and that your 00:19:03
might stop altogether and that your deaths so far as you are concerned is 00:19:03
deaths so far as you are concerned is 00:19:05
deaths so far as you are concerned is curtains forever and that is really the 00:19:05
curtains forever and that is really the 00:19:10
curtains forever and that is really the bogey you see that's all very well to 00:19:10
bogey you see that's all very well to 00:19:19
bogey you see that's all very well to rationalize and say no it's not death 00:19:19
rationalize and say no it's not death 00:19:21
rationalize and say no it's not death I'm afraid of it's the pains of death 00:19:21
but if you think about it deeply there 00:19:26
but if you think about it deeply there 00:19:29
but if you think about it deeply there are several stages in thinking about it 00:19:29
are several stages in thinking about it 00:19:31
are several stages in thinking about it deeply the first stage is the real 00:19:31
deeply the first stage is the real 00:19:33
deeply the first stage is the real horrors of endless night of the futility 00:19:33
horrors of endless night of the futility 00:19:38
horrors of endless night of the futility of the whole conception that one's own 00:19:38
of the whole conception that one's own 00:19:42
of the whole conception that one's own life or indeed the whole life of the 00:19:42
life or indeed the whole life of the 00:19:45
life or indeed the whole life of the cosmos might be nothing but a flash and 00:19:45
cosmos might be nothing but a flash and 00:19:52
cosmos might be nothing but a flash and beyond that nothing nothing nothing in 00:19:52
beyond that nothing nothing nothing in 00:19:55
beyond that nothing nothing nothing in all directions when for example we think 00:19:55
all directions when for example we think 00:19:58
all directions when for example we think of the physicists idea that the universe 00:19:58
of the physicists idea that the universe 00:20:01
of the physicists idea that the universe is running down that all energy is 00:20:01
is running down that all energy is 00:20:07
is running down that all energy is seeking a stable state supposing for 00:20:07
seeking a stable state supposing for 00:20:10
seeking a stable state supposing for example to give an illustration of what 00:20:10
example to give an illustration of what 00:20:11
example to give an illustration of what they mean I have a jar of black pepper 00:20:11
they mean I have a jar of black pepper 00:20:15
they mean I have a jar of black pepper and a jar of salt and I pour them 00:20:15
and a jar of salt and I pour them 00:20:19
and a jar of salt and I pour them together into another jar and I can see 00:20:19
together into another jar and I can see 00:20:24
together into another jar and I can see the white salt and the black pepper 00:20:24
the white salt and the black pepper 00:20:25
the white salt and the black pepper fairly well delineated then I start 00:20:25
fairly well delineated then I start 00:20:29
fairly well delineated then I start shaking the jar and slowly slowly slowly 00:20:29
shaking the jar and slowly slowly slowly 00:20:32
shaking the jar and slowly slowly slowly the black and the white disappear into a 00:20:32
the black and the white disappear into a 00:20:33
the black and the white disappear into a gray that can never be sorted out again 00:20:33
gray that can never be sorted out again 00:20:37
gray that can never be sorted out again into black and white and in this sort of 00:20:37
into black and white and in this sort of 00:20:41
into black and white and in this sort of way as things go on the universe they 00:20:41
way as things go on the universe they 00:20:45
way as things go on the universe they say it tends to attain a stable state to 00:20:45
say it tends to attain a stable state to 00:20:48
say it tends to attain a stable state to run down run down run down until that's 00:20:48
run down run down run down until that's 00:20:52
run down run down run down until that's the end and nobody knows how it could 00:20:52
the end and nobody knows how it could 00:20:56
the end and nobody knows how it could possibly start all over again 00:20:56
but I always say and I feel it's in a 00:21:00
but I always say and I feel it's in a 00:21:03
but I always say and I feel it's in a sort of funny intuitive way that what 00:21:03
sort of funny intuitive way that what 00:21:05
sort of funny intuitive way that what happened once can happen again if this 00:21:05
happened once can happen again if this 00:21:08
happened once can happen again if this world started at some time supposing 00:21:08
world started at some time supposing 00:21:11
world started at some time supposing there was a colossal explosion which set 00:21:11
there was a colossal explosion which set 00:21:13
there was a colossal explosion which set all these galaxies flying out then what 00:21:13
all these galaxies flying out then what 00:21:16
all these galaxies flying out then what existed before that explosion must 00:21:16
existed before that explosion must 00:21:19
existed before that explosion must surely have been something like the 00:21:19
surely have been something like the 00:21:20
surely have been something like the stable state to which we shall run down 00:21:20
stable state to which we shall run down 00:21:22
stable state to which we shall run down in the end and if it went bang once 00:21:22
in the end and if it went bang once 00:21:26
in the end and if it went bang once there's absolutely no reason why it 00:21:26
there's absolutely no reason why it 00:21:27
there's absolutely no reason why it shouldn't go bang again I suppose there 00:21:27
shouldn't go bang again I suppose there 00:21:33
shouldn't go bang again I suppose there are temperaments in logic I have a 00:21:33
are temperaments in logic I have a 00:21:38
are temperaments in logic I have a temperament whereby I just cannot it 00:21:38
temperament whereby I just cannot it 00:21:41
temperament whereby I just cannot it mean it seems to me absolutely basic 00:21:41
mean it seems to me absolutely basic 00:21:43
mean it seems to me absolutely basic that what happened once can happen again 00:21:43
that what happened once can happen again 00:21:45
that what happened once can happen again but there are other people who so 00:21:45
but there are other people who so 00:21:49
but there are other people who so cherished the unique that they can 00:21:49
cherished the unique that they can 00:21:52
cherished the unique that they can conceive the idea of something like 00:21:52
conceive the idea of something like 00:21:54
conceive the idea of something like existence happening only once but you 00:21:54
existence happening only once but you 00:21:59
existence happening only once but you see something that happens only once 00:21:59
see something that happens only once 00:22:01
see something that happens only once doesn't happen at all what happens if 00:22:01
doesn't happen at all what happens if 00:22:05
doesn't happen at all what happens if you a given sound consists of only one 00:22:05
you a given sound consists of only one 00:22:09
you a given sound consists of only one vibration what is the up crest of a wave 00:22:09
vibration what is the up crest of a wave 00:22:14
vibration what is the up crest of a wave apart from the down crest can you 00:22:14
apart from the down crest can you 00:22:16
apart from the down crest can you conceive that that's the same Cohen as 00:22:16
conceive that that's the same Cohen as 00:22:19
conceive that that's the same Cohen as what is the sound of one hand you see it 00:22:19
what is the sound of one hand you see it 00:22:29
what is the sound of one hand you see it always takes to you can't have a purely 00:22:29
always takes to you can't have a purely 00:22:35
always takes to you can't have a purely left-sided person imagine 00:22:35
left-sided person imagine 00:22:43
left-sided person imagine so in this way just as you can't have 00:22:43
so in this way just as you can't have 00:22:49
so in this way just as you can't have just one vibration meanness Ike was 00:22:49
just one vibration meanness Ike was 00:22:51
just one vibration meanness Ike was saying the greatest strength of mine is 00:22:51
saying the greatest strength of mine is 00:22:53
saying the greatest strength of mine is to eat one peanut and and so you which 00:22:53
to eat one peanut and and so you which 00:22:58
to eat one peanut and and so you which can hardly be done so there isn't just 00:22:58
can hardly be done so there isn't just 00:23:04
can hardly be done so there isn't just one vibration and add it but no da sort 00:23:04
one vibration and add it but no da sort 00:23:11
one vibration and add it but no da sort of thing you have to have it do more so 00:23:11
of thing you have to have it do more so 00:23:17
of thing you have to have it do more so in it in just the same way when you 00:23:17
in it in just the same way when you 00:23:18
in it in just the same way when you magnify this principle there isn't just 00:23:18
magnify this principle there isn't just 00:23:21
magnify this principle there isn't just one cosmos a one big explosion that 00:23:21
one cosmos a one big explosion that 00:23:23
one cosmos a one big explosion that starts and stops all stopping imply 00:23:23
starts and stops all stopping imply 00:23:30
starts and stops all stopping imply starting someone just wrote to me we 00:23:30
starting someone just wrote to me we 00:23:35
starting someone just wrote to me we haven't parted because we never met so 00:23:35
haven't parted because we never met so 00:23:47
haven't parted because we never met so the whole point of saying this is the 00:23:47
the whole point of saying this is the 00:23:49
the whole point of saying this is the realization that existence is eternal 00:23:49
the going out of existence implies the 00:23:56
the going out of existence implies the 00:23:59
the going out of existence implies the coming in and San Tomas had some points 00:23:59
coming in and San Tomas had some points 00:24:06
coming in and San Tomas had some points here when he said there could never have 00:24:06
here when he said there could never have 00:24:12
here when he said there could never have been a time when there was not being 00:24:12
been a time when there was not being 00:24:15
been a time when there was not being because if there had been a time when 00:24:15
because if there had been a time when 00:24:17
because if there had been a time when there was nothing there was nothing in 00:24:17
there was nothing there was nothing in 00:24:20
there was nothing there was nothing in nothing to produce something but he 00:24:20
nothing to produce something but he 00:24:24
nothing to produce something but he didn't quite have the point because what 00:24:24
didn't quite have the point because what 00:24:27
didn't quite have the point because what he didn't see was that nothing is 00:24:27
he didn't see was that nothing is 00:24:30
he didn't see was that nothing is productive in the sense that you can't 00:24:30
productive in the sense that you can't 00:24:33
productive in the sense that you can't have nothing without something they go 00:24:33
have nothing without something they go 00:24:37
have nothing without something they go together and all this thing is an 00:24:37
together and all this thing is an 00:24:40
together and all this thing is an argument again about whether the zebra 00:24:40
argument again about whether the zebra 00:24:43
argument again about whether the zebra is yellow stripe black or black stripe 00:24:43
is yellow stripe black or black stripe 00:24:46
is yellow stripe black or black stripe yellow and what we see is that 00:24:46
yellow and what we see is that 00:24:54
yellow and what we see is that the black and the yellow the darkness 00:24:54
the black and the yellow the darkness 00:24:57
the black and the yellow the darkness and the light are simply two phases of 00:24:57
and the light are simply two phases of 00:25:02
and the light are simply two phases of the same and that realization is exactly 00:25:02
the same and that realization is exactly 00:25:08
the same and that realization is exactly what transforms anxiety into laughter 00:25:08
suddenly to see that you just after all 00:25:14
suddenly to see that you just after all 00:25:21
suddenly to see that you just after all this anxiety that you don't have 00:25:21
this anxiety that you don't have 00:25:25
this anxiety that you don't have anything to worry about now that doesn't 00:25:25
anything to worry about now that doesn't 00:25:33
anything to worry about now that doesn't mean that there will not in our future 00:25:33
mean that there will not in our future 00:25:39
mean that there will not in our future lie some extremely painful experiences 00:25:39
lie some extremely painful experiences 00:25:43
lie some extremely painful experiences or experiences that we would ordinarily 00:25:43
or experiences that we would ordinarily 00:25:45
or experiences that we would ordinarily interpret as horribly painful we may all 00:25:45
interpret as horribly painful we may all 00:25:52
interpret as horribly painful we may all die of ghasta diseases or of radiation 00:25:52
die of ghasta diseases or of radiation 00:25:55
die of ghasta diseases or of radiation burns or of unimaginable things but look 00:25:55
burns or of unimaginable things but look 00:26:01
burns or of unimaginable things but look here I very briefly touched on pain 00:26:01
here I very briefly touched on pain 00:26:06
here I very briefly touched on pain yesterday and the way pain is 00:26:06
yesterday and the way pain is 00:26:09
yesterday and the way pain is interpreted if if you interpret pain as 00:26:09
interpreted if if you interpret pain as 00:26:21
interpreted if if you interpret pain as something that is destroying you and is 00:26:21
something that is destroying you and is 00:26:24
something that is destroying you and is going in the direction of total death 00:26:24
going in the direction of total death 00:26:28
going in the direction of total death then it's very serious indeed and it's 00:26:28
then it's very serious indeed and it's 00:26:34
then it's very serious indeed and it's perfectly terrifying but I've been 00:26:34
perfectly terrifying but I've been 00:26:39
perfectly terrifying but I've been investigating experiences as people who 00:26:39
investigating experiences as people who 00:26:41
investigating experiences as people who have undergone torture I don't know if 00:26:41
have undergone torture I don't know if 00:26:47
have undergone torture I don't know if anybody in this room has it's always 00:26:48
anybody in this room has it's always 00:26:49
anybody in this room has it's always possible but and then then if so you can 00:26:49
possible but and then then if so you can 00:26:53
possible but and then then if so you can correct me but the worst part of torture 00:26:53
correct me but the worst part of torture 00:26:58
correct me but the worst part of torture is the beginning when it costs you're 00:26:58
is the beginning when it costs you're 00:27:02
is the beginning when it costs you're full of all your illusions and all your 00:27:02
fears about black and white and the 00:27:07
fears about black and white and the 00:27:09
fears about black and white and the terror that black may win but it said 00:27:09
terror that black may win but it said 00:27:13
terror that black may win but it said that as torture proceeds it slowly 00:27:13
that as torture proceeds it slowly 00:27:16
that as torture proceeds it slowly changes the state of mind of the victim 00:27:16
changes the state of mind of the victim 00:27:20
changes the state of mind of the victim to a kind of drunken masochistic giving 00:27:20
to a kind of drunken masochistic giving 00:27:26
to a kind of drunken masochistic giving in to the torture so that it becomes 00:27:26
in to the torture so that it becomes 00:27:32
in to the torture so that it becomes something that he cooperates with and 00:27:32
something that he cooperates with and 00:27:35
something that he cooperates with and that if the the torturer notices this he 00:27:35
that if the the torturer notices this he 00:27:40
that if the the torturer notices this he knows he's through and has to kill him 00:27:40
so in other words there is a point at 00:27:45
so in other words there is a point at 00:27:54
so in other words there is a point at which pain becomes an experience without 00:27:54
which pain becomes an experience without 00:28:01
which pain becomes an experience without having a negative interpretation put 00:28:01
having a negative interpretation put 00:28:03
having a negative interpretation put upon it becomes in other words converted 00:28:03
upon it becomes in other words converted 00:28:07
upon it becomes in other words converted into ecstasy 00:28:07
it simply becomes you see a way of going 00:28:13
it simply becomes you see a way of going 00:28:19
it simply becomes you see a way of going through extraordinarily far-out 00:28:19
through extraordinarily far-out 00:28:23
through extraordinarily far-out sensations which have no meaning if they 00:28:23
sensations which have no meaning if they 00:28:29
sensations which have no meaning if they have meaning the meaning of threat the 00:28:29
have meaning the meaning of threat the 00:28:31
have meaning the meaning of threat the meaning of death looming at the end and 00:28:31
meaning of death looming at the end and 00:28:34
meaning of death looming at the end and you know this is the tearing apart and 00:28:34
you know this is the tearing apart and 00:28:37
you know this is the tearing apart and the destruction of you then you see it 00:28:37
the destruction of you then you see it 00:28:42
the destruction of you then you see it is absolutely horrendous but if it has 00:28:42
is absolutely horrendous but if it has 00:28:45
is absolutely horrendous but if it has no meaning at all just transpose 00:28:45
no meaning at all just transpose 00:28:50
no meaning at all just transpose yourself into another dimension to 00:28:50
yourself into another dimension to 00:28:52
yourself into another dimension to illustrate it because what the dimension 00:28:52
illustrate it because what the dimension 00:28:54
illustrate it because what the dimension I'm talking about a very tough one but 00:28:54
I'm talking about a very tough one but 00:28:57
I'm talking about a very tough one but let's go back to a simpler one let's 00:28:57
let's go back to a simpler one let's 00:28:59
let's go back to a simpler one let's take sounds now if you lie down and 00:28:59
take sounds now if you lie down and 00:29:06
take sounds now if you lie down and listen to all the goings on in this area 00:29:06
listen to all the goings on in this area 00:29:10
listen to all the goings on in this area and you will hear planes moving in cars 00:29:10
and you will hear planes moving in cars 00:29:12
and you will hear planes moving in cars and fog horns and all kinds of crazy 00:29:12
and fog horns and all kinds of crazy 00:29:16
and fog horns and all kinds of crazy sounds you see people this way and that 00:29:16
sounds you see people this way and that 00:29:19
sounds you see people this way and that song and you can listen to that and find 00:29:19
song and you can listen to that and find 00:29:21
song and you can listen to that and find it very interesting very beautiful but 00:29:21
it very interesting very beautiful but 00:29:25
it very interesting very beautiful but if someone were to do what John Cage 00:29:25
if someone were to do what John Cage 00:29:28
if someone were to do what John Cage does and put you in a concert hall with 00:29:28
does and put you in a concert hall with 00:29:31
does and put you in a concert hall with the expectation of hearing music and by 00:29:32
the expectation of hearing music and by 00:29:35
the expectation of hearing music and by having a purely silent playing of the 00:29:35
having a purely silent playing of the 00:29:37
having a purely silent playing of the piano compel you instead to listen to 00:29:37
piano compel you instead to listen to 00:29:40
piano compel you instead to listen to all the sounds going on around you you 00:29:40
all the sounds going on around you you 00:29:43
all the sounds going on around you you would be shocked and feel that some kind 00:29:43
would be shocked and feel that some kind 00:29:46
would be shocked and feel that some kind of avant-garde hoax had been perpetrated 00:29:46
you see it depends on the set on the way 00:29:53
you see it depends on the set on the way 00:29:57
you see it depends on the set on the way you approach the experience now you can 00:29:57
you approach the experience now you can 00:30:02
you approach the experience now you can listen to sounds that are ordinarily 00:30:02
listen to sounds that are ordinarily 00:30:05
listen to sounds that are ordinarily considered unpleasant in a totally 00:30:05
considered unpleasant in a totally 00:30:08
considered unpleasant in a totally unprejudiced way you can listen to the 00:30:08
unprejudiced way you can listen to the 00:30:14
unprejudiced way you can listen to the discordant musical noises and find them 00:30:14
discordant musical noises and find them 00:30:21
discordant musical noises and find them extremely interesting if you listen 00:30:21
extremely interesting if you listen 00:30:22
extremely interesting if you listen carefully enough 00:30:22
carefully enough 00:30:25
carefully enough you 00:30:25
you 00:30:37