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we'll begin by refreshing memories as to 00:00:21
we'll begin by refreshing memories as to 00:00:27
we'll begin by refreshing memories as to what went before in discussing the theme 00:00:27
what went before in discussing the theme 00:00:30
what went before in discussing the theme of the Joker I have been talking about a 00:00:30
of the Joker I have been talking about a 00:00:34
of the Joker I have been talking about a point of view the Joker's point of view 00:00:34
point of view the Joker's point of view 00:00:39
point of view the Joker's point of view from which not only our social 00:00:39
from which not only our social 00:00:42
from which not only our social institutions but also all the formations 00:00:42
institutions but also all the formations 00:00:46
institutions but also all the formations of the natural world are seen as games 00:00:46
be careful of the word game it doesn't 00:00:52
be careful of the word game it doesn't 00:00:56
be careful of the word game it doesn't mean as trivialities because when we say 00:00:56
mean as trivialities because when we say 00:01:01
mean as trivialities because when we say it's just a game 00:01:01
it's just a game 00:01:02
it's just a game this often means it is just trivial 00:01:02
there can be important games as when we 00:01:08
there can be important games as when we 00:01:13
there can be important games as when we play the piano or musical instruments we 00:01:13
play the piano or musical instruments we 00:01:18
play the piano or musical instruments we are not necessarily doing something 00:01:18
are not necessarily doing something 00:01:20
are not necessarily doing something frivolous but we are playing and there 00:01:20
frivolous but we are playing and there 00:01:25
frivolous but we are playing and there is something in the nature of all play 00:01:25
is something in the nature of all play 00:01:28
is something in the nature of all play that is not serious but at the same time 00:01:28
that is not serious but at the same time 00:01:32
that is not serious but at the same time may be sincere 00:01:32
and I tried to give you the picture of 00:01:35
and I tried to give you the picture of 00:01:40
and I tried to give you the picture of the multiplicity of natural forms on the 00:01:40
the multiplicity of natural forms on the 00:01:43
the multiplicity of natural forms on the one hand and of human social 00:01:43
one hand and of human social 00:01:45
one hand and of human social institutions and all the things that we 00:01:45
institutions and all the things that we 00:01:48
institutions and all the things that we do and consider important and busy 00:01:48
do and consider important and busy 00:01:50
do and consider important and busy ourselves with as human beings I tried 00:01:50
ourselves with as human beings I tried 00:01:53
ourselves with as human beings I tried to give you the point of view from which 00:01:53
to give you the point of view from which 00:01:55
to give you the point of view from which these can be seen as games as things 00:01:55
these can be seen as games as things 00:01:58
these can be seen as games as things being done as it were simply for 00:01:58
being done as it were simply for 00:02:00
being done as it were simply for themselves and not for some ulterior 00:02:00
themselves and not for some ulterior 00:02:07
themselves and not for some ulterior motive and therefore these games are in 00:02:07
motive and therefore these games are in 00:02:15
motive and therefore these games are in a way best played when they are played 00:02:15
a way best played when they are played 00:02:17
a way best played when they are played as games 00:02:17
although it's really alright for people 00:02:22
although it's really alright for people 00:02:26
although it's really alright for people to take them seriously except that they 00:02:26
to take them seriously except that they 00:02:30
to take them seriously except that they are a little bit deprived they're 00:02:30
are a little bit deprived they're 00:02:33
are a little bit deprived they're missing something and so when the Joker 00:02:33
missing something and so when the Joker 00:02:36
missing something and so when the Joker sees a person taking his life seriously 00:02:36
sees a person taking his life seriously 00:02:39
sees a person taking his life seriously and regarding himself as extremely 00:02:39
and regarding himself as extremely 00:02:42
and regarding himself as extremely important there is something a little 00:02:42
important there is something a little 00:02:45
important there is something a little bit funny about it and he is inclined to 00:02:45
bit funny about it and he is inclined to 00:02:47
bit funny about it and he is inclined to get the giggles and it's all he knows 00:02:47
get the giggles and it's all he knows 00:02:57
get the giggles and it's all he knows that the very intensity of seriousness 00:02:57
that the very intensity of seriousness 00:03:00
that the very intensity of seriousness with which the individuals concerned are 00:03:00
with which the individuals concerned are 00:03:03
with which the individuals concerned are taking these games will be a kind of 00:03:03
taking these games will be a kind of 00:03:06
taking these games will be a kind of foil for the subsequent bursting into 00:03:06
foil for the subsequent bursting into 00:03:14
foil for the subsequent bursting into laughter when he sees that it wasn't 00:03:14
laughter when he sees that it wasn't 00:03:16
laughter when he sees that it wasn't serious after all you see that you might 00:03:16
serious after all you see that you might 00:03:20
serious after all you see that you might say there are these classes of people 00:03:20
say there are these classes of people 00:03:23
say there are these classes of people there are the very far out people and 00:03:23
there are the very far out people and 00:03:25
there are the very far out people and the very far in people now ordinarily we 00:03:25
the very far in people now ordinarily we 00:03:30
the very far in people now ordinarily we say someone's very far out when they are 00:03:30
say someone's very far out when they are 00:03:33
say someone's very far out when they are oddballs when they are exceedingly 00:03:33
oddballs when they are exceedingly 00:03:37
oddballs when they are exceedingly unconventional but I want you to turn 00:03:37
unconventional but I want you to turn 00:03:40
unconventional but I want you to turn the picture round and look as a 00:03:40
the picture round and look as a 00:03:41
the picture round and look as a conventional person look at a square as 00:03:41
conventional person look at a square as 00:03:44
conventional person look at a square as a person who's very far out that is to 00:03:44
a person who's very far out that is to 00:03:48
a person who's very far out that is to say he is so involved in the seriousness 00:03:48
say he is so involved in the seriousness 00:03:52
say he is so involved in the seriousness of the game he is playing that he is 00:03:52
of the game he is playing that he is 00:03:54
of the game he is playing that he is lost he doesn't know where he started 00:03:54
lost he doesn't know where he started 00:03:57
lost he doesn't know where he started from and he thinks he's there but he's 00:03:57
from and he thinks he's there but he's 00:04:02
from and he thinks he's there but he's completely lost because he is actually 00:04:02
completely lost because he is actually 00:04:06
completely lost because he is actually under the cover of his assurance of his 00:04:06
under the cover of his assurance of his 00:04:10
under the cover of his assurance of his status of his position in society he's 00:04:10
status of his position in society he's 00:04:13
status of his position in society he's really a very anxious person I said a 00:04:13
really a very anxious person I said a 00:04:16
really a very anxious person I said a lot yesterday about the way in which our 00:04:16
lot yesterday about the way in which our 00:04:19
lot yesterday about the way in which our society shows anxiety because it cannot 00:04:19
society shows anxiety because it cannot 00:04:21
society shows anxiety because it cannot permit the existence of people who don't 00:04:21
permit the existence of people who don't 00:04:24
permit the existence of people who don't belong 00:04:24
belong 00:04:25
belong and it cannot really permit the 00:04:25
and it cannot really permit the 00:04:28
and it cannot really permit the criticism of laughter it cannot permit 00:04:28
criticism of laughter it cannot permit 00:04:31
criticism of laughter it cannot permit the presence of the old-fashioned court 00:04:31
the presence of the old-fashioned court 00:04:33
the presence of the old-fashioned court jester because these people are so far 00:04:33
jester because these people are so far 00:04:37
jester because these people are so far out they are so involved and one from a 00:04:37
out they are so involved and one from a 00:04:42
out they are so involved and one from a certain standpoint you see from the 00:04:42
certain standpoint you see from the 00:04:44
certain standpoint you see from the Joker's standpoint he doesn't condemn 00:04:44
Joker's standpoint he doesn't condemn 00:04:46
Joker's standpoint he doesn't condemn such people he rather congratulate them 00:04:46
such people he rather congratulate them 00:04:49
such people he rather congratulate them on their heroism for getting so lost and 00:04:49
on their heroism for getting so lost and 00:04:53
on their heroism for getting so lost and involved but to keep the far out people 00:04:53
involved but to keep the far out people 00:04:57
involved but to keep the far out people from going quite insane there have to be 00:04:57
from going quite insane there have to be 00:05:01
from going quite insane there have to be far in people and the far in people are 00:05:01
far in people and the far in people are 00:05:04
far in people and the far in people are those who who keep contact with the 00:05:04
those who who keep contact with the 00:05:08
those who who keep contact with the original the goings on behind the scenes 00:05:08
original the goings on behind the scenes 00:05:12
original the goings on behind the scenes they are like the prompter in the 00:05:12
they are like the prompter in the 00:05:15
they are like the prompter in the theater where there are the actors out 00:05:15
theater where there are the actors out 00:05:17
theater where there are the actors out on the stage relying on their memories 00:05:17
on the stage relying on their memories 00:05:19
on the stage relying on their memories etc and they're supposed to get 00:05:19
etc and they're supposed to get 00:05:21
etc and they're supposed to get completely involved in the play but 00:05:21
completely involved in the play but 00:05:23
completely involved in the play but there's a concealed prompter 00:05:23
there's a concealed prompter 00:05:25
there's a concealed prompter with the script in front of him and he 00:05:25
with the script in front of him and he 00:05:28
with the script in front of him and he is the connection of the actor on the 00:05:28
is the connection of the actor on the 00:05:30
is the connection of the actor on the stage with the greenroom behind the 00:05:30
stage with the greenroom behind the 00:05:32
stage with the greenroom behind the stage and you see in in this dramatic 00:05:32
stage and you see in in this dramatic 00:05:36
stage and you see in in this dramatic analogy of the universe 00:05:36
analogy of the universe 00:05:40
analogy of the universe the green room is the central point for 00:05:40
the green room is the central point for 00:05:44
the green room is the central point for Stillpoint of the turning world the 00:05:44
Stillpoint of the turning world the 00:05:47
Stillpoint of the turning world the green room is how God is when he's back 00:05:47
green room is how God is when he's back 00:05:51
green room is how God is when he's back home not involved in all these games and 00:05:51
home not involved in all these games and 00:05:55
home not involved in all these games and takes off the mask see on the Hindu 00:05:55
takes off the mask see on the Hindu 00:05:59
takes off the mask see on the Hindu theory that everybody is the mask of God 00:05:59
theory that everybody is the mask of God 00:06:02
theory that everybody is the mask of God the like wonderful line in one of 00:06:02
the like wonderful line in one of 00:06:05
the like wonderful line in one of Chesterton poems and now a great thing 00:06:05
Chesterton poems and now a great thing 00:06:09
Chesterton poems and now a great thing in the street seems any human nod we're 00:06:09
in the street seems any human nod we're 00:06:11
in the street seems any human nod we're moving strange democracy the million 00:06:11
moving strange democracy the million 00:06:13
moving strange democracy the million masks of God the million masks of the 00:06:13
masks of God the million masks of the 00:06:17
masks of God the million masks of the Joker because the Joker is the player 00:06:17
Joker because the Joker is the player 00:06:20
Joker because the Joker is the player the trick player who plays ultimately 00:06:20
the trick player who plays ultimately 00:06:23
the trick player who plays ultimately the great trick on himself so really 00:06:23
the great trick on himself so really 00:06:27
the great trick on himself so really there can be no resentment about this 00:06:27
there can be no resentment about this 00:06:29
there can be no resentment about this nobody to blame nobody to turn around 00:06:29
nobody to blame nobody to turn around 00:06:31
nobody to blame nobody to turn around during the end and say you you bastard 00:06:31
during the end and say you you bastard 00:06:33
during the end and say you you bastard you do this to me because it's always 00:06:33
you do this to me because it's always 00:06:36
you do this to me because it's always you who are ultimately responsible 00:06:36
so this prompter you see keeps the actor 00:06:40
so this prompter you see keeps the actor 00:06:45
so this prompter you see keeps the actor on the stage in touch with the greenroom 00:06:45
on the stage in touch with the greenroom 00:06:47
on the stage in touch with the greenroom and so there are certain people in the 00:06:47
and so there are certain people in the 00:06:48
and so there are certain people in the world who might be a kind of a 00:06:48
world who might be a kind of a 00:06:52
world who might be a kind of a priesthood sometimes although 00:06:52
priesthood sometimes although 00:06:53
priesthood sometimes although priesthoods are apt to become corrupt 00:06:53
priesthoods are apt to become corrupt 00:06:55
priesthoods are apt to become corrupt and square but a kind of people in the 00:06:55
and square but a kind of people in the 00:07:00
and square but a kind of people in the know there always has to be somebody 00:07:00
know there always has to be somebody 00:07:03
know there always has to be somebody around in the know so that are as it 00:07:03
around in the know so that are as it 00:07:07
around in the know so that are as it were the wheel of society and of 00:07:07
were the wheel of society and of 00:07:10
were the wheel of society and of existence the wheel of the squirrel cage 00:07:10
existence the wheel of the squirrel cage 00:07:12
existence the wheel of the squirrel cage the wheel of the rat race can have an 00:07:12
the wheel of the rat race can have an 00:07:15
the wheel of the rat race can have an actual firmly planted 00:07:15
actual firmly planted 00:07:17
actual firmly planted and at the center then there has to be 00:07:17
and at the center then there has to be 00:07:19
and at the center then there has to be the far in people so this is the domain 00:07:19
the far in people so this is the domain 00:07:23
the far in people so this is the domain of jokers now having developed that side 00:07:23
of jokers now having developed that side 00:07:29
of jokers now having developed that side of the Joker the person who sees through 00:07:29
of the Joker the person who sees through 00:07:34
of the Joker the person who sees through the social institutions of games I went 00:07:34
the social institutions of games I went 00:07:37
the social institutions of games I went on in the second session to discuss 00:07:37
on in the second session to discuss 00:07:41
on in the second session to discuss another aspect of the Joker as the slime 00:07:41
another aspect of the Joker as the slime 00:07:43
another aspect of the Joker as the slime app in comparison with the monk the 00:07:43
app in comparison with the monk the 00:07:47
app in comparison with the monk the fakir 00:07:47
fakir 00:07:48
fakir and the yogi who undertakes all those 00:07:48
and the yogi who undertakes all those 00:07:52
and the yogi who undertakes all those three undertake in certain different 00:07:52
three undertake in certain different 00:07:54
three undertake in certain different ways disciplines which have the intent 00:07:54
ways disciplines which have the intent 00:08:00
ways disciplines which have the intent of releasing them from their karma 00:08:00
the individual in other words 00:08:05
the individual in other words 00:08:07
the individual in other words challengers his involvement his 00:08:07
challengers his involvement his 00:08:10
challengers his involvement his attachments his limitations his fine a 00:08:10
attachments his limitations his fine a 00:08:13
attachments his limitations his fine a tude and endeavors to overcome it but in 00:08:13
tude and endeavors to overcome it but in 00:08:18
tude and endeavors to overcome it but in each of these three cases the individual 00:08:18
each of these three cases the individual 00:08:21
each of these three cases the individual involved stirs up an immense opposition 00:08:21
involved stirs up an immense opposition 00:08:25
involved stirs up an immense opposition because he serves notice upon the devil 00:08:25
because he serves notice upon the devil 00:08:29
because he serves notice upon the devil or shall we say upon his karmic 00:08:29
or shall we say upon his karmic 00:08:32
or shall we say upon his karmic creditors that he is about to leave town 00:08:32
creditors that he is about to leave town 00:08:34
creditors that he is about to leave town and so all the creditors come rushing to 00:08:34
and so all the creditors come rushing to 00:08:39
and so all the creditors come rushing to the door all his past sins catch up with 00:08:39
the door all his past sins catch up with 00:08:42
the door all his past sins catch up with him and the devil lays his temptations 00:08:42
him and the devil lays his temptations 00:08:46
him and the devil lays his temptations in the way all the more thoroughly so 00:08:46
in the way all the more thoroughly so 00:08:51
in the way all the more thoroughly so that the sly man is the one who when he 00:08:51
that the sly man is the one who when he 00:08:53
that the sly man is the one who when he is going to leave town does so 00:08:53
is going to leave town does so 00:08:55
is going to leave town does so instantaneously without any prior 00:08:55
instantaneously without any prior 00:08:57
instantaneously without any prior announcement and so in this way there is 00:08:57
announcement and so in this way there is 00:09:02
announcement and so in this way there is shall we say a cunning manner of 00:09:02
shall we say a cunning manner of 00:09:07
shall we say a cunning manner of becoming a Buddha 00:09:07
and that is to become one instantly 00:09:10
and that is to become one instantly 00:09:13
and that is to become one instantly without any preparation or warning 00:09:13
without any preparation or warning 00:09:16
without any preparation or warning whatsoever this is why Zen is called the 00:09:16
whatsoever this is why Zen is called the 00:09:19
whatsoever this is why Zen is called the sudden school and why Satori is a sudden 00:09:19
sudden school and why Satori is a sudden 00:09:25
sudden school and why Satori is a sudden awakening because it has to be done 00:09:25
awakening because it has to be done 00:09:30
awakening because it has to be done without the slightest warning now 00:09:30
but then I pointed out that the moment 00:09:37
but then I pointed out that the moment 00:09:41
but then I pointed out that the moment you have any idea about doing this 00:09:41
you have any idea about doing this 00:09:45
you have any idea about doing this you've already ceased to be sudden that 00:09:45
you've already ceased to be sudden that 00:09:50
you've already ceased to be sudden that is to say the moment you seek for some 00:09:50
is to say the moment you seek for some 00:09:54
is to say the moment you seek for some spiritual attainment which is becoming a 00:09:54
spiritual attainment which is becoming a 00:09:57
spiritual attainment which is becoming a Buddha becoming awakened becoming 00:09:57
Buddha becoming awakened becoming 00:09:59
Buddha becoming awakened becoming release getting in there you've already 00:09:59
release getting in there you've already 00:10:03
release getting in there you've already served notice upon your creditors so 00:10:03
served notice upon your creditors so 00:10:08
served notice upon your creditors so that somehow or other you find that you 00:10:08
that somehow or other you find that you 00:10:10
that somehow or other you find that you have to do it without intending to do it 00:10:10
have to do it without intending to do it 00:10:12
have to do it without intending to do it and that is a double bind where would 00:10:12
and that is a double bind where would 00:10:19
and that is a double bind where would you impose upon yourself when you say I 00:10:19
you impose upon yourself when you say I 00:10:22
you impose upon yourself when you say I must find a way of doing this 00:10:22
must find a way of doing this 00:10:25
must find a way of doing this spontaneously that's the old old basic 00:10:25
spontaneously that's the old old basic 00:10:29
spontaneously that's the old old basic double bind you must be spontaneous 00:10:29
double bind you must be spontaneous 00:10:34
double bind you must be spontaneous you are commanded or you command 00:10:34
you are commanded or you command 00:10:37
you are commanded or you command yourself to do something which is 00:10:37
yourself to do something which is 00:10:39
yourself to do something which is acceptable only if it happens 00:10:39
acceptable only if it happens 00:10:41
acceptable only if it happens spontaneously then you think about that 00:10:41
spontaneously then you think about that 00:10:45
spontaneously then you think about that and say well well well what a fix that 00:10:45
and say well well well what a fix that 00:10:49
and say well well well what a fix that is here am I saying I must be surprised 00:10:49
is here am I saying I must be surprised 00:10:55
is here am I saying I must be surprised and I'm going to lay plans to surprise 00:10:55
and I'm going to lay plans to surprise 00:10:57
and I'm going to lay plans to surprise myself so by going through this you 00:10:57
myself so by going through this you 00:11:04
myself so by going through this you discover of naturally that that can't be 00:11:04
discover of naturally that that can't be 00:11:06
discover of naturally that that can't be done you can't surprise yourself on 00:11:06
done you can't surprise yourself on 00:11:10
done you can't surprise yourself on purpose yet that's what you have to do 00:11:10
so what about it 00:11:16
so what about it 00:11:18
so what about it you come to a state of total paralysis 00:11:18
you're stuck 00:11:23
the one thing that is terribly important 00:11:30
the one thing that is terribly important 00:11:32
the one thing that is terribly important to be done can't be done 00:11:33
to be done can't be done 00:11:35
to be done can't be done it has to happen it really does if 00:11:35
it has to happen it really does if 00:11:37
it has to happen it really does if you're earnest about this you want to 00:11:37
you're earnest about this you want to 00:11:39
you're earnest about this you want to get out of the trap but you can't do 00:11:39
get out of the trap but you can't do 00:11:42
get out of the trap but you can't do anything about it either actively or 00:11:42
anything about it either actively or 00:11:46
anything about it either actively or passively 00:11:46
but then as you begin to see what you 00:11:50
but then as you begin to see what you 00:11:55
but then as you begin to see what you are doing all the time you notice the 00:11:55
are doing all the time you notice the 00:11:58
are doing all the time you notice the very odd fact which is that you can't 00:11:58
very odd fact which is that you can't 00:12:02
very odd fact which is that you can't help being spontaneous if I say to you 00:12:02
help being spontaneous if I say to you 00:12:08
help being spontaneous if I say to you good morning and you say good morning 00:12:08
good morning and you say good morning 00:12:10
good morning and you say good morning what is that did you plan this answer 00:12:10
what is that did you plan this answer 00:12:16
what is that did you plan this answer did you make preparations to grow your 00:12:16
did you make preparations to grow your 00:12:18
did you make preparations to grow your hair do you make decisions about having 00:12:18
hair do you make decisions about having 00:12:23
hair do you make decisions about having blue eyes you see about breathing is 00:12:23
blue eyes you see about breathing is 00:12:30
blue eyes you see about breathing is this all planned about beating your 00:12:30
this all planned about beating your 00:12:32
this all planned about beating your heart and what about your thinking even 00:12:32
heart and what about your thinking even 00:12:35
heart and what about your thinking even if it's very blocked thinking even if 00:12:35
if it's very blocked thinking even if 00:12:38
if it's very blocked thinking even if you feel from a certain point of view 00:12:38
you feel from a certain point of view 00:12:40
you feel from a certain point of view that you're all mixed up what is going 00:12:40
that you're all mixed up what is going 00:12:43
that you're all mixed up what is going on anyway you see you can't stop it it's 00:12:43
on anyway you see you can't stop it it's 00:12:48
on anyway you see you can't stop it it's like trying to we were discussing a good 00:12:48
like trying to we were discussing a good 00:12:52
like trying to we were discussing a good Jeff thing yesterday the self 00:12:52
Jeff thing yesterday the self 00:12:54
Jeff thing yesterday the self remembering exercise the attempt to live 00:12:54
remembering exercise the attempt to live 00:12:57
remembering exercise the attempt to live completely in the present well that's 00:12:57
completely in the present well that's 00:13:00
completely in the present well that's not only good Jeff idea that's a very 00:13:00
not only good Jeff idea that's a very 00:13:02
not only good Jeff idea that's a very ancient yoga and Buddhist discipline to 00:13:02
ancient yoga and Buddhist discipline to 00:13:07
ancient yoga and Buddhist discipline to be completely here and now but of course 00:13:07
be completely here and now but of course 00:13:10
be completely here and now but of course as you pursue this you discover you 00:13:10
as you pursue this you discover you 00:13:11
as you pursue this you discover you can't do it because you couldn't even 00:13:11
can't do it because you couldn't even 00:13:15
can't do it because you couldn't even you know know where to go shopping 00:13:15
you know know where to go shopping 00:13:17
you know know where to go shopping unless you made plans and started 00:13:17
unless you made plans and started 00:13:19
unless you made plans and started thinking about the future because you 00:13:19
thinking about the future because you 00:13:22
thinking about the future because you couldn't move but then you discover you 00:13:22
couldn't move but then you discover you 00:13:25
couldn't move but then you discover you see that in the long run there's nothing 00:13:25
see that in the long run there's nothing 00:13:27
see that in the long run there's nothing to think about except the here and now 00:13:27
to think about except the here and now 00:13:30
to think about except the here and now there isn't anything else because even 00:13:30
there isn't anything else because even 00:13:34
there isn't anything else because even when you make plans for the future and 00:13:34
when you make plans for the future and 00:13:35
when you make plans for the future and you remember the past you're doing it 00:13:35
you remember the past you're doing it 00:13:38
you remember the past you're doing it all in the present your memory is the 00:13:38
all in the present your memory is the 00:13:40
all in the present your memory is the present activity there's no way of not 00:13:40
present activity there's no way of not 00:13:42
present activity there's no way of not being self remembering and present and 00:13:42
being self remembering and present and 00:13:45
being self remembering and present and having presence of mind so when you 00:13:45
having presence of mind so when you 00:13:48
having presence of mind so when you discover that there's nothing left to 00:13:48
discover that there's nothing left to 00:13:50
discover that there's nothing left to you but to have a good laugh well now I 00:13:50
you but to have a good laugh well now I 00:13:58
you but to have a good laugh well now I want to develop to a greater extent 00:13:58
want to develop to a greater extent 00:14:03
want to develop to a greater extent something I only touched on yesterday 00:14:03
something I only touched on yesterday 00:14:05
something I only touched on yesterday afternoon when we were discussing 00:14:05
afternoon when we were discussing 00:14:08
afternoon when we were discussing anxiety and laughter and the 00:14:08
anxiety and laughter and the 00:14:11
anxiety and laughter and the relationship between the two I suggested 00:14:11
relationship between the two I suggested 00:14:16
relationship between the two I suggested that anxiety and laughter are really the 00:14:16
that anxiety and laughter are really the 00:14:18
that anxiety and laughter are really the same phenomenon but seen from different 00:14:18
same phenomenon but seen from different 00:14:21
same phenomenon but seen from different points of view as we all know we can 00:14:21
points of view as we all know we can 00:14:25
points of view as we all know we can have shadows of horror and shadows of 00:14:25
have shadows of horror and shadows of 00:14:27
have shadows of horror and shadows of delight tears of grief and tears of joy 00:14:27
delight tears of grief and tears of joy 00:14:29
delight tears of grief and tears of joy and it's the same shadows and the same 00:14:29
and it's the same shadows and the same 00:14:33
and it's the same shadows and the same tears in either case that they have a 00:14:33
tears in either case that they have a 00:14:35
tears in either case that they have a completely different meaning now life 00:14:35
completely different meaning now life 00:14:39
completely different meaning now life set life is a matter of oscillation 00:14:39
set life is a matter of oscillation 00:14:41
set life is a matter of oscillation light is vibration it's the young iiiiii 00:14:41
light is vibration it's the young iiiiii 00:14:46
light is vibration it's the young iiiiii the whole time and all the way through 00:14:46
the whole time and all the way through 00:14:48
the whole time and all the way through question is how are you going to 00:14:48
question is how are you going to 00:14:50
question is how are you going to interpret that is it tremble tremble 00:14:50
interpret that is it tremble tremble 00:14:53
interpret that is it tremble tremble tremble or is it laughs laughs laughs 00:14:53
that's the that's the great thing 00:14:59
that's the that's the great thing 00:15:02
that's the that's the great thing and sometimes it's one sometimes it's 00:15:02
and sometimes it's one sometimes it's 00:15:06
and sometimes it's one sometimes it's the other 00:15:06
so that the the whole thing of the Joker 00:15:10
so that the the whole thing of the Joker 00:15:13
so that the the whole thing of the Joker is the book that he comes into being as 00:15:13
is the book that he comes into being as 00:15:17
is the book that he comes into being as it were at the point when the anxiety 00:15:17
it were at the point when the anxiety 00:15:20
it were at the point when the anxiety interpretation of the trembling becomes 00:15:20
interpretation of the trembling becomes 00:15:22
interpretation of the trembling becomes the Laughing interpretation we were 00:15:22
the Laughing interpretation we were 00:15:28
the Laughing interpretation we were talking about monks who had skulls on in 00:15:28
talking about monks who had skulls on in 00:15:33
talking about monks who had skulls on in their cells to remind them of mortality 00:15:33
their cells to remind them of mortality 00:15:36
their cells to remind them of mortality and we think a grim thing of the skull 00:15:36
and we think a grim thing of the skull 00:15:41
and we think a grim thing of the skull is a grim thing but Chesterton had the 00:15:41
is a grim thing but Chesterton had the 00:15:45
is a grim thing but Chesterton had the poem about the skirt of the skull 00:15:45
poem about the skirt of the skull 00:15:50
poem about the skirt of the skull chattering Finch and water fly are not 00:15:50
chattering Finch and water fly are not 00:15:53
chattering Finch and water fly are not merrier than I here among the flowers I 00:15:53
merrier than I here among the flowers I 00:15:56
merrier than I here among the flowers I lie laughing everlastingly no I may not 00:15:56
lie laughing everlastingly no I may not 00:16:01
lie laughing everlastingly no I may not tell the best surely friends I might 00:16:01
tell the best surely friends I might 00:16:04
tell the best surely friends I might have guessed death was but the good 00:16:04
have guessed death was but the good 00:16:06
have guessed death was but the good Kings jest it was hid so carefully so 00:16:06
Kings jest it was hid so carefully so 00:16:12
Kings jest it was hid so carefully so you can see the skull not as a grim 00:16:12
you can see the skull not as a grim 00:16:14
you can see the skull not as a grim thing but as the laughing thing 00:16:14
thing but as the laughing thing 00:16:17
thing but as the laughing thing it's all that's left of a human being 00:16:17
it's all that's left of a human being 00:16:20
it's all that's left of a human being and all the the surface is peeled off 00:16:20
and all the the surface is peeled off 00:16:23
and all the the surface is peeled off and nothing but this beautiful bone 00:16:23
and nothing but this beautiful bone 00:16:26
and nothing but this beautiful bone remains it lasts 00:16:26
now why what is it about death being a 00:16:32
now why what is it about death being a 00:16:38
now why what is it about death being a jest 00:16:38
we discussed the problem of the zebra 00:16:47
we discussed the problem of the zebra 00:16:51
we discussed the problem of the zebra you remember whether a zebra is the 00:16:51
you remember whether a zebra is the 00:16:54
you remember whether a zebra is the yellow horse with black stripes or a 00:16:54
yellow horse with black stripes or a 00:16:56
yellow horse with black stripes or a black horse with yellow stripes and of 00:16:56
black horse with yellow stripes and of 00:17:01
black horse with yellow stripes and of course you can see it either way and you 00:17:01
course you can see it either way and you 00:17:06
course you can see it either way and you can argue to all this blue about which 00:17:06
can argue to all this blue about which 00:17:08
can argue to all this blue about which side is right and let's suppose that a 00:17:08
side is right and let's suppose that a 00:17:12
side is right and let's suppose that a black horse is the horse of ill-omen 00:17:12
black horse is the horse of ill-omen 00:17:14
black horse is the horse of ill-omen even though striped with yellow and a 00:17:14
even though striped with yellow and a 00:17:18
even though striped with yellow and a yellow horse the horse of joy and good 00:17:18
yellow horse the horse of joy and good 00:17:19
yellow horse the horse of joy and good omen 00:17:19
omen 00:17:20
omen even though striped with black this is 00:17:20
even though striped with black this is 00:17:24
even though striped with black this is our eternal problem we are in the state 00:17:24
our eternal problem we are in the state 00:17:29
our eternal problem we are in the state of egocentric consciousness firmly 00:17:29
of egocentric consciousness firmly 00:17:32
of egocentric consciousness firmly convinced that death is a threat 00:17:32
we are so convinced of this even though 00:17:41
we are so convinced of this even though 00:17:44
we are so convinced of this even though individuals may say well I'm not really 00:17:44
individuals may say well I'm not really 00:17:46
individuals may say well I'm not really afraid of death what I'm afraid of is 00:17:46
afraid of death what I'm afraid of is 00:17:48
afraid of death what I'm afraid of is dying in an unpleasant way nevertheless 00:17:48
dying in an unpleasant way nevertheless 00:17:52
dying in an unpleasant way nevertheless since almost all spare moralists and 00:17:52
since almost all spare moralists and 00:18:01
since almost all spare moralists and people concerned with ethics seem to 00:18:01
people concerned with ethics seem to 00:18:06
people concerned with ethics seem to agree whatever their differences of 00:18:06
agree whatever their differences of 00:18:08
agree whatever their differences of opinion that survival is a good thing in 00:18:08
opinion that survival is a good thing in 00:18:11
opinion that survival is a good thing in some sense if not survival in this body 00:18:11
some sense if not survival in this body 00:18:15
some sense if not survival in this body the even the most I mean the people who 00:18:15
the even the most I mean the people who 00:18:18
the even the most I mean the people who would rather be dead than red firmly 00:18:18
would rather be dead than red firmly 00:18:22
would rather be dead than red firmly believe that that is true because they 00:18:22
believe that that is true because they 00:18:26
believe that that is true because they believe there is the hereafter where 00:18:26
believe there is the hereafter where 00:18:28
believe there is the hereafter where they can go and where they can be 00:18:28
they can go and where they can be 00:18:31
they can go and where they can be rewarded for the courageous stand 00:18:31
rewarded for the courageous stand 00:18:33
rewarded for the courageous stand against evil which they have taken you 00:18:33
against evil which they have taken you 00:18:36
against evil which they have taken you see so that's still some kind of 00:18:36
see so that's still some kind of 00:18:39
see so that's still some kind of insistence on the valley the value of 00:18:39
insistence on the valley the value of 00:18:41
insistence on the valley the value of survival and we all cling to this idea 00:18:41
survival and we all cling to this idea 00:18:48
survival and we all cling to this idea of survival with tremendous passion but 00:18:48
of survival with tremendous passion but 00:18:54
of survival with tremendous passion but we have been fooled 00:18:54
because survival is an important ideal 00:18:58
because survival is an important ideal 00:19:02
because survival is an important ideal only so long as you have bothering you 00:19:02
only so long as you have bothering you 00:19:05
only so long as you have bothering you the bugbear of death that the world 00:19:05
the bugbear of death that the world 00:19:11
the bugbear of death that the world might stop altogether and that your 00:19:11
might stop altogether and that your 00:19:14
might stop altogether and that your death so far as you are concerned is 00:19:14
death so far as you are concerned is 00:19:17
death so far as you are concerned is curtains forever and that is really the 00:19:17
curtains forever and that is really the 00:19:22
curtains forever and that is really the bogey 00:19:22
you see that's all very well to 00:19:27
you see that's all very well to 00:19:31
you see that's all very well to rationalize and say no it's not death 00:19:31
rationalize and say no it's not death 00:19:33
rationalize and say no it's not death I'm afraid of its the pains of death but 00:19:33
I'm afraid of its the pains of death but 00:19:38
I'm afraid of its the pains of death but if you think about it deeply there are 00:19:38
if you think about it deeply there are 00:19:41
if you think about it deeply there are several stages in thinking about it 00:19:41
several stages in thinking about it 00:19:42
several stages in thinking about it deeply the first stage is the real 00:19:42
deeply the first stage is the real 00:19:45
deeply the first stage is the real horrors of endless night of the futility 00:19:45
horrors of endless night of the futility 00:19:49
horrors of endless night of the futility of the whole conception that one's own 00:19:49
of the whole conception that one's own 00:19:53
of the whole conception that one's own life or indeed the whole life of the 00:19:53
life or indeed the whole life of the 00:19:57
life or indeed the whole life of the cosmos might be nothing but a flash and 00:19:57
cosmos might be nothing but a flash and 00:20:03
cosmos might be nothing but a flash and beyond that nothing nothing nothing in 00:20:03
beyond that nothing nothing nothing in 00:20:07
beyond that nothing nothing nothing in all directions when for example we think 00:20:07
all directions when for example we think 00:20:10
all directions when for example we think of the physicists idea that the universe 00:20:10
of the physicists idea that the universe 00:20:13
of the physicists idea that the universe is running down that all energy as is 00:20:13
is running down that all energy as is 00:20:19
is running down that all energy as is seeking a stable state supposing for 00:20:19
seeking a stable state supposing for 00:20:21
seeking a stable state supposing for example to give an illustration of what 00:20:21
example to give an illustration of what 00:20:23
example to give an illustration of what they mean I have a jar of black pepper 00:20:23
they mean I have a jar of black pepper 00:20:26
they mean I have a jar of black pepper and a jar of salt and I pour them 00:20:26
and a jar of salt and I pour them 00:20:31
and a jar of salt and I pour them together into another jar and I can see 00:20:31
together into another jar and I can see 00:20:35
together into another jar and I can see the white salt and the black pepper 00:20:35
the white salt and the black pepper 00:20:37
the white salt and the black pepper fairly well delineated then I start 00:20:37
fairly well delineated then I start 00:20:40
fairly well delineated then I start shaking the jar and slowly slowly slowly 00:20:40
shaking the jar and slowly slowly slowly 00:20:43
shaking the jar and slowly slowly slowly the black and the white disappear into a 00:20:43
the black and the white disappear into a 00:20:45
the black and the white disappear into a grey that can never be sorted out again 00:20:45
grey that can never be sorted out again 00:20:49
grey that can never be sorted out again into black and white 00:20:49
into black and white 00:20:51
into black and white in this sort of way as things go on the 00:20:51
in this sort of way as things go on the 00:20:56
in this sort of way as things go on the universe they say it tends to attain a 00:20:56
universe they say it tends to attain a 00:20:58
universe they say it tends to attain a stable state to run down run down run 00:20:58
stable state to run down run down run 00:21:02
stable state to run down run down run down until that's the end and nobody 00:21:02
down until that's the end and nobody 00:21:06
down until that's the end and nobody knows how it could possibly start all 00:21:06
knows how it could possibly start all 00:21:09
knows how it could possibly start all over again but I always say and I feel 00:21:09
over again but I always say and I feel 00:21:14
over again but I always say and I feel it's in a sort of funny intuitive way 00:21:14
it's in a sort of funny intuitive way 00:21:16
it's in a sort of funny intuitive way that what happened once can happen again 00:21:16
that what happened once can happen again 00:21:18
that what happened once can happen again if this world started at some time 00:21:18
if this world started at some time 00:21:22
if this world started at some time supposing there was a colossal explosion 00:21:22
supposing there was a colossal explosion 00:21:24
supposing there was a colossal explosion which set all these galaxies flying out 00:21:24
which set all these galaxies flying out 00:21:27
which set all these galaxies flying out then what existed before that explosion 00:21:27
then what existed before that explosion 00:21:30
then what existed before that explosion must surely have been something like the 00:21:30
must surely have been something like the 00:21:32
must surely have been something like the stable state to which we shall run down 00:21:32
stable state to which we shall run down 00:21:34
stable state to which we shall run down in the end and if it went bang once 00:21:34
in the end and if it went bang once 00:21:37
in the end and if it went bang once there's absolutely no reason why it 00:21:37
there's absolutely no reason why it 00:21:39
there's absolutely no reason why it shouldn't go bang again I suppose there 00:21:39
shouldn't go bang again I suppose there 00:21:45
shouldn't go bang again I suppose there are temperaments in logic I have a 00:21:45
are temperaments in logic I have a 00:21:49
are temperaments in logic I have a temperament whereby I just cannot it 00:21:49
temperament whereby I just cannot it 00:21:53
temperament whereby I just cannot it mean it seems to me absolutely basic 00:21:53
mean it seems to me absolutely basic 00:21:55
mean it seems to me absolutely basic that what happened once can happen again 00:21:55
that what happened once can happen again 00:21:57
that what happened once can happen again but there are other people who so 00:21:57
but there are other people who so 00:22:00
but there are other people who so cherished the unique that they can 00:22:00
cherished the unique that they can 00:22:03
cherished the unique that they can conceive the idea of something like 00:22:03
conceive the idea of something like 00:22:06
conceive the idea of something like existence happening only once but you 00:22:06
existence happening only once but you 00:22:11
existence happening only once but you see something that happens only once 00:22:11
see something that happens only once 00:22:12
see something that happens only once doesn't happen at all 00:22:12
doesn't happen at all 00:22:15
doesn't happen at all what happens if you a given sound 00:22:15
what happens if you a given sound 00:22:19
what happens if you a given sound consists of only one vibration what is 00:22:19
consists of only one vibration what is 00:22:25
consists of only one vibration what is the up crest of a wave apart from the 00:22:25
the up crest of a wave apart from the 00:22:27
the up crest of a wave apart from the down crest can you conceive that that's 00:22:27
down crest can you conceive that that's 00:22:30
down crest can you conceive that that's the same Cohen as what is the sound of 00:22:30
the same Cohen as what is the sound of 00:22:32
the same Cohen as what is the sound of one hand you see it always takes two you 00:22:32
one hand you see it always takes two you 00:22:45
one hand you see it always takes two you can't have a purely left-sided person 00:22:45
imagine 00:22:52
imagine 00:22:55
imagine so in this way just as you can't have 00:22:55
so in this way just as you can't have 00:23:01
so in this way just as you can't have just one vibration Mina psyche was 00:23:01
just one vibration Mina psyche was 00:23:03
just one vibration Mina psyche was saying the greatest strength of mine is 00:23:03
saying the greatest strength of mine is 00:23:04
saying the greatest strength of mine is to eat one peanut and as though you 00:23:04
to eat one peanut and as though you 00:23:10
to eat one peanut and as though you which can hardly be done so there isn't 00:23:10
which can hardly be done so there isn't 00:23:15
which can hardly be done so there isn't just one vibration and add it but no da 00:23:15
just one vibration and add it but no da 00:23:22
just one vibration and add it but no da sort of thing you you have to have it do 00:23:22
sort of thing you you have to have it do 00:23:27
sort of thing you you have to have it do more so in the in just the same way when 00:23:27
more so in the in just the same way when 00:23:30
more so in the in just the same way when you magnify this principle there isn't 00:23:30
you magnify this principle there isn't 00:23:32
you magnify this principle there isn't just one cosmos a one big explosion that 00:23:32
just one cosmos a one big explosion that 00:23:35
just one cosmos a one big explosion that starts and stops all stopping implies 00:23:35
starts and stops all stopping implies 00:23:42
starts and stops all stopping implies starting if someone just wrote to me we 00:23:42
starting if someone just wrote to me we 00:23:46
starting if someone just wrote to me we haven't parted because we never met 00:23:46
so the whole point of saying this is the 00:23:57
so the whole point of saying this is the 00:24:01
so the whole point of saying this is the realization that existence is eternal 00:24:01
they're going out of existence implies 00:24:09
they're going out of existence implies 00:24:11
they're going out of existence implies the coming in 00:24:11
and some Thomas had some points here 00:24:16
and some Thomas had some points here 00:24:19
and some Thomas had some points here when he said there could never have been 00:24:19
when he said there could never have been 00:24:24
when he said there could never have been a time when there was not being because 00:24:24
a time when there was not being because 00:24:27
a time when there was not being because if there had been a time when there was 00:24:28
if there had been a time when there was 00:24:29
if there had been a time when there was nothing there was nothing in nothing to 00:24:29
nothing there was nothing in nothing to 00:24:32
nothing there was nothing in nothing to produce something but he didn't quite 00:24:32
produce something but he didn't quite 00:24:36
produce something but he didn't quite have the point because what he didn't 00:24:36
have the point because what he didn't 00:24:39
have the point because what he didn't see was that nothing is productive in 00:24:39
see was that nothing is productive in 00:24:43
see was that nothing is productive in the sense that you can't have nothing 00:24:43
the sense that you can't have nothing 00:24:45
the sense that you can't have nothing without something they go together and 00:24:45
without something they go together and 00:24:50
without something they go together and all this thing is an argument again 00:24:50
all this thing is an argument again 00:24:54
all this thing is an argument again about whether the zebra is yellow stripe 00:24:54
about whether the zebra is yellow stripe 00:24:57
about whether the zebra is yellow stripe black or black stripe yellow and what we 00:24:57
black or black stripe yellow and what we 00:25:02
black or black stripe yellow and what we see is that the black and the yellow the 00:25:02
see is that the black and the yellow the 00:25:07
see is that the black and the yellow the darkness and the light 00:25:07
are simply two phases of the same and 00:25:12
are simply two phases of the same and 00:25:15
are simply two phases of the same and that realization is exactly what 00:25:15
that realization is exactly what 00:25:20
that realization is exactly what transforms anxiety into laughter 00:25:20
suddenly to see that you just after all 00:25:25
suddenly to see that you just after all 00:25:33
suddenly to see that you just after all this anxiety that you don't have 00:25:33
this anxiety that you don't have 00:25:36
this anxiety that you don't have anything to worry about 00:25:36
now that doesn't mean 00:25:43
that there will not in our future lie 00:25:47
that there will not in our future lie 00:25:51
that there will not in our future lie some extremely painful experiences or 00:25:51
some extremely painful experiences or 00:25:55
some extremely painful experiences or experiences that we would ordinarily 00:25:55
experiences that we would ordinarily 00:25:56
experiences that we would ordinarily interpret as horribly painful 00:25:56
we may all die of ghastly diseases or of 00:26:02
we may all die of ghastly diseases or of 00:26:06
we may all die of ghastly diseases or of radiation burns or of unimaginable 00:26:06
radiation burns or of unimaginable 00:26:10
radiation burns or of unimaginable things that looks here I very briefly 00:26:10
things that looks here I very briefly 00:26:16
things that looks here I very briefly touched on pain yesterday and the way 00:26:17
touched on pain yesterday and the way 00:26:19
touched on pain yesterday and the way pain is interpreted if if you interpret 00:26:19
pain is interpreted if if you interpret 00:26:30
pain is interpreted if if you interpret pain as something that is destroying you 00:26:30
pain as something that is destroying you 00:26:35
pain as something that is destroying you and is going in the direction of total 00:26:35
and is going in the direction of total 00:26:38
and is going in the direction of total death then it's very serious indeed and 00:26:38
death then it's very serious indeed and 00:26:45
death then it's very serious indeed and it's perfectly terrifying but I've been 00:26:45
it's perfectly terrifying but I've been 00:26:50
it's perfectly terrifying but I've been investigating experiences of people 00:26:50
investigating experiences of people 00:26:53
investigating experiences of people who've undergone torture uh I don't know 00:26:53
who've undergone torture uh I don't know 00:26:59
who've undergone torture uh I don't know if anybody in this room has it's always 00:26:59
if anybody in this room has it's always 00:27:01
if anybody in this room has it's always possible but and then then if so you can 00:27:01
possible but and then then if so you can 00:27:05
possible but and then then if so you can correct me but the worst part of torture 00:27:05
correct me but the worst part of torture 00:27:10
correct me but the worst part of torture is the beginning when of course you're 00:27:10
is the beginning when of course you're 00:27:14
is the beginning when of course you're full of all your illusions and all your 00:27:14
full of all your illusions and all your 00:27:19
full of all your illusions and all your fears about black and white and the 00:27:19
fears about black and white and the 00:27:21
fears about black and white and the terror that black may win but it's said 00:27:21
terror that black may win but it's said 00:27:25
terror that black may win but it's said that as torture proceeds it slowly 00:27:25
that as torture proceeds it slowly 00:27:28
that as torture proceeds it slowly changes the state of mind of the victim 00:27:28
changes the state of mind of the victim 00:27:32
changes the state of mind of the victim to a kind of drunken masochistic giving 00:27:32
to a kind of drunken masochistic giving 00:27:38
to a kind of drunken masochistic giving in to the torture 00:27:38
in to the torture 00:27:41
in to the torture so that it becomes something that he 00:27:41
so that it becomes something that he 00:27:45
so that it becomes something that he cooperates with and that if the the 00:27:45
cooperates with and that if the the 00:27:49
cooperates with and that if the the torturer notices this he knows he's 00:27:49
torturer notices this he knows he's 00:27:52
torturer notices this he knows he's through and has to kill him 00:27:52
so 00:27:57
in other words there is a point at which 00:28:01
in other words there is a point at which 00:28:06
in other words there is a point at which pain becomes an experience without 00:28:06
pain becomes an experience without 00:28:13
pain becomes an experience without having a negative interpretation put 00:28:13
having a negative interpretation put 00:28:15
having a negative interpretation put upon it becomes in other words converted 00:28:15
upon it becomes in other words converted 00:28:19
upon it becomes in other words converted into ecstasy 00:28:19
it simply becomes you see a way of going 00:28:25
it simply becomes you see a way of going 00:28:31
it simply becomes you see a way of going through extraordinarily far out 00:28:31
through extraordinarily far out 00:28:35
through extraordinarily far out sensations which have no meaning if they 00:28:35
sensations which have no meaning if they 00:28:41
sensations which have no meaning if they have meaning the meaning of threats the 00:28:41
have meaning the meaning of threats the 00:28:43
have meaning the meaning of threats the meaning of death looming at the end and 00:28:43
meaning of death looming at the end and 00:28:46
meaning of death looming at the end and you know this is the tearing apart and 00:28:46
you know this is the tearing apart and 00:28:49
you know this is the tearing apart and the destruction of you then you see it 00:28:49
the destruction of you then you see it 00:28:53
the destruction of you then you see it is absolutely horrendous but if it has 00:28:53
is absolutely horrendous but if it has 00:28:57
is absolutely horrendous but if it has no meaning at all just transpose 00:28:57
no meaning at all just transpose 00:29:02
no meaning at all just transpose yourself into another dimension to 00:29:02
yourself into another dimension to 00:29:04
yourself into another dimension to illustrate it because what the dimension 00:29:04
illustrate it because what the dimension 00:29:06
illustrate it because what the dimension I'm talking about very tough one but 00:29:06
I'm talking about very tough one but 00:29:09
I'm talking about very tough one but let's go back to a simpler one let us 00:29:09
let's go back to a simpler one let us 00:29:11
let's go back to a simpler one let us take sounds now if you lie down and 00:29:11
take sounds now if you lie down and 00:29:18
take sounds now if you lie down and listen to all the goings on in this area 00:29:18
listen to all the goings on in this area 00:29:21
listen to all the goings on in this area and use your planes moving in cars and 00:29:21
and use your planes moving in cars and 00:29:25
and use your planes moving in cars and foghorns and all kinds of crazy sounds 00:29:25
foghorns and all kinds of crazy sounds 00:29:28
foghorns and all kinds of crazy sounds you see people this way and that song 00:29:28
you see people this way and that song 00:29:31
you see people this way and that song and you can listen to that and find it 00:29:31
and you can listen to that and find it 00:29:33
and you can listen to that and find it very interesting very beautiful 00:29:33
very interesting very beautiful 00:29:36
very interesting very beautiful but if someone were to do what John Cage 00:29:36
but if someone were to do what John Cage 00:29:40
but if someone were to do what John Cage does and put you in a concert hall with 00:29:40
does and put you in a concert hall with 00:29:43
does and put you in a concert hall with the expectation of hearing music and by 00:29:43
the expectation of hearing music and by 00:29:46
the expectation of hearing music and by having a purely silent playing of the 00:29:46
having a purely silent playing of the 00:29:49
having a purely silent playing of the piano compared you instead to listen to 00:29:49
piano compared you instead to listen to 00:29:52
piano compared you instead to listen to all the sounds going on around you you 00:29:52
all the sounds going on around you you 00:29:55
all the sounds going on around you you would be shocked and feel that some kind 00:29:55
would be shocked and feel that some kind 00:29:57
would be shocked and feel that some kind of avant-garde hoax had been perpetrated 00:29:57
you see it depends on the set on the way 00:30:05
you see it depends on the set on the way 00:30:08
you see it depends on the set on the way you approach the experience now you can 00:30:08
you approach the experience now you can 00:30:14
you approach the experience now you can listen to sounds that are ordinarily 00:30:14
listen to sounds that are ordinarily 00:30:16
listen to sounds that are ordinarily considered unpleasant in a totally 00:30:17
considered unpleasant in a totally 00:30:19
considered unpleasant in a totally unprejudiced way you can listen to the 00:30:19
unprejudiced way you can listen to the 00:30:25
unprejudiced way you can listen to the discordant musical noises and find them 00:30:25
discordant musical noises and find them 00:30:32
discordant musical noises and find them extremely interesting if you listen 00:30:32
extremely interesting if you listen 00:30:34
extremely interesting if you listen carefully enough 00:30:34
you 00:31:02