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well I have a sort of suggestion and 00:00:01
well I have a sort of suggestion and 00:00:05
well I have a sort of suggestion and that is this that before we decide 00:00:05
that is this that before we decide 00:00:12
that is this that before we decide either to save the planet or to destroy 00:00:12
either to save the planet or to destroy 00:00:15
either to save the planet or to destroy it we pause for a moment of silence I 00:00:15
it we pause for a moment of silence I 00:00:20
it we pause for a moment of silence I don't mean that kind of grim silence 00:00:20
don't mean that kind of grim silence 00:00:23
don't mean that kind of grim silence which one observes when somebody says 00:00:23
which one observes when somebody says 00:00:28
which one observes when somebody says such-and-such a famous person has just 00:00:28
such-and-such a famous person has just 00:00:30
such-and-such a famous person has just died and will observe a moment of 00:00:30
died and will observe a moment of 00:00:32
died and will observe a moment of silence in his honor 00:00:32
silence in his honor 00:00:33
silence in his honor and everybody frowns and thinks very 00:00:33
and everybody frowns and thinks very 00:00:36
and everybody frowns and thinks very serious thoughts 00:00:36
serious thoughts 00:00:38
serious thoughts that's not silence at all I mean real 00:00:38
that's not silence at all I mean real 00:00:42
that's not silence at all I mean real silence in which we stop thinking and 00:00:42
experience reality as reality is because 00:00:50
experience reality as reality is because 00:00:56
experience reality as reality is because after all if I talk all the time I can't 00:00:56
after all if I talk all the time I can't 00:00:59
after all if I talk all the time I can't hear what anyone else has to say and if 00:00:59
hear what anyone else has to say and if 00:01:02
hear what anyone else has to say and if I think all the time and by that I mean 00:01:02
I think all the time and by that I mean 00:01:04
I think all the time and by that I mean specifically talking to yourself sub 00:01:04
specifically talking to yourself sub 00:01:07
specifically talking to yourself sub vocally inside your skull if I think all 00:01:07
vocally inside your skull if I think all 00:01:10
vocally inside your skull if I think all the time I have nothing to think about 00:01:10
the time I have nothing to think about 00:01:12
the time I have nothing to think about except thoughts and so I'm never in 00:01:12
except thoughts and so I'm never in 00:01:15
except thoughts and so I'm never in touch with the real world now what is 00:01:15
touch with the real world now what is 00:01:17
touch with the real world now what is the real world some people have the 00:01:17
the real world some people have the 00:01:22
the real world some people have the theory that the real world is material 00:01:22
theory that the real world is material 00:01:25
theory that the real world is material or physical I say it's made a kind of a 00:01:25
or physical I say it's made a kind of a 00:01:27
or physical I say it's made a kind of a stuff other people have the theory that 00:01:27
stuff other people have the theory that 00:01:33
stuff other people have the theory that the real world is spiritual or mental 00:01:33
the real world is spiritual or mental 00:01:35
the real world is spiritual or mental but I want you to point out that both 00:01:35
but I want you to point out that both 00:01:38
but I want you to point out that both those theories of the world are concepts 00:01:38
those theories of the world are concepts 00:01:44
those theories of the world are concepts of words and the real world is not an 00:01:44
of words and the real world is not an 00:01:50
of words and the real world is not an idea it is not words reality is 00:01:50
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you will find therefore that if you get 00:02:22
you will find therefore that if you get 00:02:26
you will find therefore that if you get with reality all sorts of illusions 00:02:26
with reality all sorts of illusions 00:02:30
with reality all sorts of illusions disappear and I will mention several 00:02:30
disappear and I will mention several 00:02:34
disappear and I will mention several illusions that have not this kind of 00:02:34
illusions that have not this kind of 00:02:38
illusions that have not this kind of existence let's begin with some very 00:02:38
existence let's begin with some very 00:02:45
existence let's begin with some very down-to-earth ones like money money is a 00:02:45
down-to-earth ones like money money is a 00:02:55
down-to-earth ones like money money is a very useful method of accounting it is a 00:02:55
very useful method of accounting it is a 00:03:00
very useful method of accounting it is a measure of wealth in the same way as 00:03:00
measure of wealth in the same way as 00:03:03
measure of wealth in the same way as inches are measures of length and grams 00:03:03
inches are measures of length and grams 00:03:09
inches are measures of length and grams measures of weight you cannot eat money 00:03:09
measures of weight you cannot eat money 00:03:13
measures of weight you cannot eat money you could have a fantastic quantity of 00:03:13
you could have a fantastic quantity of 00:03:16
you could have a fantastic quantity of dollar bills and stock certificates on a 00:03:17
dollar bills and stock certificates on a 00:03:20
dollar bills and stock certificates on a desert island and they would be useless 00:03:20
desert island and they would be useless 00:03:23
desert island and they would be useless to you what you would need would be food 00:03:23
to you what you would need would be food 00:03:27
to you what you would need would be food and animals and companions money simply 00:03:27
and animals and companions money simply 00:03:42
and animals and companions money simply represents wealth in rather the same way 00:03:42
represents wealth in rather the same way 00:03:45
represents wealth in rather the same way that the menu represents the dinner only 00:03:45
that the menu represents the dinner only 00:03:51
that the menu represents the dinner only we are psychologically perverted in such 00:03:51
we are psychologically perverted in such 00:03:54
we are psychologically perverted in such a way that we would some of us would 00:03:54
a way that we would some of us would 00:03:56
a way that we would some of us would rather have money than real wealth but 00:03:56
rather have money than real wealth but 00:04:00
rather have money than real wealth but you know you cannot drive in five cars 00:04:00
you know you cannot drive in five cars 00:04:04
you know you cannot drive in five cars at once even though they be Cadillacs 00:04:04
at once even though they be Cadillacs 00:04:06
at once even though they be Cadillacs you cannot live simultaneously in six 00:04:06
you cannot live simultaneously in six 00:04:09
you cannot live simultaneously in six houses or eat twelve roasts of beef at 00:04:09
houses or eat twelve roasts of beef at 00:04:13
houses or eat twelve roasts of beef at one meal there is a limit to what one 00:04:13
one meal there is a limit to what one 00:04:15
one meal there is a limit to what one can consume so that's one of the sort of 00:04:15
can consume so that's one of the sort of 00:04:23
can consume so that's one of the sort of confusions I'm talking about 00:04:23
another is that we confuse ourselves as 00:04:28
another is that we confuse ourselves as 00:04:35
another is that we confuse ourselves as living organisms with our idea of 00:04:35
living organisms with our idea of 00:04:39
living organisms with our idea of ourselves that is to say with the 00:04:39
ourselves that is to say with the 00:04:43
ourselves that is to say with the conception of myself which is called the 00:04:43
conception of myself which is called the 00:04:46
conception of myself which is called the personality or ego we that is what we 00:04:46
personality or ego we that is what we 00:04:54
personality or ego we that is what we have been told we are and it's an 00:04:54
have been told we are and it's an 00:04:58
have been told we are and it's an extremely crude and limited conception 00:04:58
extremely crude and limited conception 00:05:01
extremely crude and limited conception of oneself of the actual unique living 00:05:01
of oneself of the actual unique living 00:05:07
of oneself of the actual unique living organism and we get unhappy because we 00:05:07
organism and we get unhappy because we 00:05:16
organism and we get unhappy because we are thinking of ourselves in this way 00:05:16
are thinking of ourselves in this way 00:05:18
are thinking of ourselves in this way because we think well gee I'm gonna die 00:05:18
because we think well gee I'm gonna die 00:05:21
because we think well gee I'm gonna die I once talked to a woman who came to me 00:05:21
I once talked to a woman who came to me 00:05:25
I once talked to a woman who came to me and said she was afraid of death and we 00:05:25
and said she was afraid of death and we 00:05:30
and said she was afraid of death and we went into it in a long conversation I 00:05:30
went into it in a long conversation I 00:05:32
went into it in a long conversation I said what are you really afraid of and 00:05:32
said what are you really afraid of and 00:05:37
said what are you really afraid of and she thought it over and thought it over 00:05:37
she thought it over and thought it over 00:05:39
she thought it over and thought it over and he said do you know what I'm gonna 00:05:39
and he said do you know what I'm gonna 00:05:40
and he said do you know what I'm gonna be afraid of is what other people are 00:05:40
be afraid of is what other people are 00:05:42
be afraid of is what other people are gonna say they're gonna say poor old 00:05:42
gonna say they're gonna say poor old 00:05:45
gonna say they're gonna say poor old Gert she couldn't last it through 00:05:45
because you see who you think you are is 00:05:49
because you see who you think you are is 00:05:53
because you see who you think you are is entirely dependent on who people have 00:05:53
entirely dependent on who people have 00:05:55
entirely dependent on who people have told you you are you're not that then 00:05:55
told you you are you're not that then 00:06:03
told you you are you're not that then another thing that bothers our bothers 00:06:03
another thing that bothers our bothers 00:06:05
another thing that bothers our bothers us is time but most people nowadays say 00:06:05
us is time but most people nowadays say 00:06:11
us is time but most people nowadays say I have no time course you don't because 00:06:11
I have no time course you don't because 00:06:15
I have no time course you don't because you are not aware of the present you 00:06:15
you are not aware of the present you 00:06:18
you are not aware of the present you know the present is represented on your 00:06:18
know the present is represented on your 00:06:20
know the present is represented on your watch by a hairline that is as thin as 00:06:20
watch by a hairline that is as thin as 00:06:24
watch by a hairline that is as thin as possible as is consistent with 00:06:24
possible as is consistent with 00:06:25
possible as is consistent with visibility and so everybody thinks the 00:06:25
visibility and so everybody thinks the 00:06:28
visibility and so everybody thinks the present is instead of 00:06:28
present is instead of 00:06:32
present is instead of [Music] 00:06:32
[Music] 00:06:38
[Music] now the present is the only real time 00:06:38
now the present is the only real time 00:06:42
now the present is the only real time there is no past and there isn't a 00:06:42
there is no past and there isn't a 00:06:46
there is no past and there isn't a future and there never will be we think 00:06:46
future and there never will be we think 00:06:54
future and there never will be we think ordinarily of the present as an 00:06:54
ordinarily of the present as an 00:06:56
ordinarily of the present as an infinitesimal point at which the future 00:06:56
infinitesimal point at which the future 00:06:58
infinitesimal point at which the future changes into the past and we also do a 00:06:58
changes into the past and we also do a 00:07:03
changes into the past and we also do a terrible thing we imagine ourselves to 00:07:03
terrible thing we imagine ourselves to 00:07:06
terrible thing we imagine ourselves to be results of the past and we're always 00:07:06
be results of the past and we're always 00:07:10
be results of the past and we're always passing the buck over our shoulders like 00:07:10
passing the buck over our shoulders like 00:07:12
passing the buck over our shoulders like when God approached Adam in the Garden 00:07:12
when God approached Adam in the Garden 00:07:14
when God approached Adam in the Garden of Eden and said hast thou eaten of the 00:07:14
of Eden and said hast thou eaten of the 00:07:17
of Eden and said hast thou eaten of the fruit of the tree we're off I told thee 00:07:17
fruit of the tree we're off I told thee 00:07:19
fruit of the tree we're off I told thee thou should not eat and Adam said this 00:07:19
thou should not eat and Adam said this 00:07:21
thou should not eat and Adam said this woman thou gave us me she tempted me and 00:07:21
woman thou gave us me she tempted me and 00:07:23
woman thou gave us me she tempted me and I did eat and God looked at he even said 00:07:23
I did eat and God looked at he even said 00:07:26
I did eat and God looked at he even said hast thou eaten of the fruit of the tree 00:07:26
hast thou eaten of the fruit of the tree 00:07:28
hast thou eaten of the fruit of the tree were off I told thee thou shalt not eat 00:07:28
were off I told thee thou shalt not eat 00:07:30
were off I told thee thou shalt not eat and she said the serpent beguiled me and 00:07:30
and she said the serpent beguiled me and 00:07:32
and she said the serpent beguiled me and I did eat and guard out of the corner of 00:07:32
I did eat and guard out of the corner of 00:07:34
I did eat and guard out of the corner of his eye looked at the serpent certain 00:07:34
his eye looked at the serpent certain 00:07:36
his eye looked at the serpent certain said nothing 00:07:36
so you see we're always passing the buck 00:07:46
so you see we're always passing the buck 00:07:49
so you see we're always passing the buck don't realize that the past is caused by 00:07:49
don't realize that the past is caused by 00:07:53
don't realize that the past is caused by the present as the wake of a ship flows 00:07:53
the present as the wake of a ship flows 00:07:57
the present as the wake of a ship flows back from the prow 00:07:57
back from the prow 00:07:59
back from the prow now the wake doesn't drive the ship any 00:07:59
now the wake doesn't drive the ship any 00:08:02
now the wake doesn't drive the ship any more than the tail wags the dog but 00:08:02
more than the tail wags the dog but 00:08:10
more than the tail wags the dog but we've all got excuses and my mother had 00:08:10
we've all got excuses and my mother had 00:08:14
we've all got excuses and my mother had a fit while she was carrying me in the 00:08:14
a fit while she was carrying me in the 00:08:16
a fit while she was carrying me in the womb they didn't bring me up right and 00:08:16
womb they didn't bring me up right and 00:08:20
womb they didn't bring me up right and then they go to the mother and say how 00:08:20
then they go to the mother and say how 00:08:22
then they go to the mother and say how is it that you could have been so 00:08:22
is it that you could have been so 00:08:23
is it that you could have been so irresponsible with your children and she 00:08:23
irresponsible with your children and she 00:08:25
irresponsible with your children and she says well it was my parents didn't bring 00:08:25
says well it was my parents didn't bring 00:08:27
says well it was my parents didn't bring me up right slow everybody passes the 00:08:27
me up right slow everybody passes the 00:08:30
me up right slow everybody passes the buck but the truth of the matter is it 00:08:30
buck but the truth of the matter is it 00:08:35
buck but the truth of the matter is it all begins here this is where the 00:08:35
all begins here this is where the 00:08:41
all begins here this is where the creation begins and you're doing it and 00:08:41
creation begins and you're doing it and 00:08:48
creation begins and you're doing it and won't admit it because of course you're 00:08:48
won't admit it because of course you're 00:08:51
won't admit it because of course you're all God in disguise Jesus found that out 00:08:51
all God in disguise Jesus found that out 00:08:55
all God in disguise Jesus found that out and they crucified him for saying so 00:08:55
and they crucified him for saying so 00:08:59
and they crucified him for saying so because the Jewish people had a sense of 00:08:59
because the Jewish people had a sense of 00:09:04
because the Jewish people had a sense of God as the cosmic King the boss it was 00:09:04
God as the cosmic King the boss it was 00:09:10
God as the cosmic King the boss it was modeled on Pharaoh on Cyrus of Persia 00:09:10
modeled on Pharaoh on Cyrus of Persia 00:09:13
modeled on Pharaoh on Cyrus of Persia the king of kings and the Lord of lords 00:09:13
the king of kings and the Lord of lords 00:09:16
the king of kings and the Lord of lords was Cyrus is title Kyra a Eleison means 00:09:16
was Cyrus is title Kyra a Eleison means 00:09:18
was Cyrus is title Kyra a Eleison means Cyrus have mercy on us but you don't 00:09:18
Cyrus have mercy on us but you don't 00:09:26
Cyrus have mercy on us but you don't have to think of God in that image when 00:09:26
have to think of God in that image when 00:09:29
have to think of God in that image when modern Protestant theologians of the 00:09:29
modern Protestant theologians of the 00:09:31
modern Protestant theologians of the sort of liberal type how saying God is 00:09:31
sort of liberal type how saying God is 00:09:33
sort of liberal type how saying God is dead they mean not that literally they 00:09:33
dead they mean not that literally they 00:09:37
dead they mean not that literally they mean a certain image of God is dead out 00:09:37
mean a certain image of God is dead out 00:09:42
mean a certain image of God is dead out worn because it was after all an idol 00:09:42
worn because it was after all an idol 00:09:47
worn because it was after all an idol and when it says thou shalt not make to 00:09:47
and when it says thou shalt not make to 00:09:51
and when it says thou shalt not make to thyself any graven image it doesn't mean 00:09:51
thyself any graven image it doesn't mean 00:09:53
thyself any graven image it doesn't mean merely images of 00:09:53
merely images of 00:09:54
merely images of in stone which nobody took seriously 00:09:54
in stone which nobody took seriously 00:09:56
in stone which nobody took seriously anyway it means above all images made of 00:09:56
anyway it means above all images made of 00:09:58
anyway it means above all images made of imagination the image is made of 00:09:58
imagination the image is made of 00:10:01
imagination the image is made of concepts and that one had feet of clay 00:10:01
concepts and that one had feet of clay 00:10:08
concepts and that one had feet of clay but it doesn't mean that God is dead 00:10:08
but it doesn't mean that God is dead 00:10:13
but it doesn't mean that God is dead that life is nothing more than a trip 00:10:13
that life is nothing more than a trip 00:10:16
that life is nothing more than a trip from the maternity ward to the 00:10:16
from the maternity ward to the 00:10:18
from the maternity ward to the crematorium it's much more spooky than 00:10:18
crematorium it's much more spooky than 00:10:24
crematorium it's much more spooky than that 00:10:24
much more wonderful but you see 00:10:33
you can't conceive reality we could say 00:10:45
you can't conceive reality we could say 00:10:54
you can't conceive reality we could say God is reality but if I call this the 00:10:54
God is reality but if I call this the 00:10:59
God is reality but if I call this the sound of a gong it isn't the same as 00:10:59
sound of a gong it isn't the same as 00:11:03
sound of a gong it isn't the same as this you see the sound of a gong is a 00:11:03
this you see the sound of a gong is a 00:11:08
this you see the sound of a gong is a different sound from that sound the 00:11:08
different sound from that sound the 00:11:11
different sound from that sound the sound of a gong the sound of a gong the 00:11:11
sound of a gong the sound of a gong the 00:11:12
sound of a gong the sound of a gong the sound of a gong the sound of gong is not 00:11:12
sound of a gong the sound of gong is not 00:11:14
sound of a gong the sound of gong is not [Music] 00:11:14
so then there is practiced throughout 00:11:21
so then there is practiced throughout 00:11:27
so then there is practiced throughout the world rather more in Asia than here 00:11:27
the world rather more in Asia than here 00:11:31
the world rather more in Asia than here although always by a minority of people 00:11:31
although always by a minority of people 00:11:34
although always by a minority of people a discipline called meditation which is 00:11:34
a discipline called meditation which is 00:11:39
a discipline called meditation which is to get in touch with reality the word 00:11:39
to get in touch with reality the word 00:11:44
to get in touch with reality the word meditation in English doesn't have quite 00:11:44
meditation in English doesn't have quite 00:11:47
meditation in English doesn't have quite the same meaning because when we talk of 00:11:47
the same meaning because when we talk of 00:11:49
the same meaning because when we talk of someone meditating we think of deeply 00:11:49
someone meditating we think of deeply 00:11:52
someone meditating we think of deeply pondering about something when the 00:11:52
pondering about something when the 00:11:55
pondering about something when the Orientals are asked what do you meditate 00:11:55
Orientals are asked what do you meditate 00:11:57
Orientals are asked what do you meditate on they look slightly puzzled 00:11:57
on they look slightly puzzled 00:11:59
on they look slightly puzzled we don't meditate on anything we just 00:11:59
we don't meditate on anything we just 00:12:03
we don't meditate on anything we just meditate in sanskrit it is called jhana 00:12:03
meditate in sanskrit it is called jhana 00:12:08
meditate in sanskrit it is called jhana in Chinese it is called Chung in 00:12:08
in Chinese it is called Chung in 00:12:11
in Chinese it is called Chung in Japanese it is called Zen and it means 00:12:11
Japanese it is called Zen and it means 00:12:18
Japanese it is called Zen and it means very simply to stop thinking temporary 00:12:18
very simply to stop thinking temporary 00:12:27
very simply to stop thinking temporary not again that thinking is something bad 00:12:27
but if you don't you have to stop 00:12:34
but if you don't you have to stop 00:12:37
but if you don't you have to stop thinking at certain times once you get 00:12:37
thinking at certain times once you get 00:12:43
thinking at certain times once you get the knack of that you can do it even 00:12:43
the knack of that you can do it even 00:12:47
the knack of that you can do it even while you are thinking so you can be a 00:12:47
while you are thinking so you can be a 00:12:54
while you are thinking so you can be a scholar and practice meditation this is 00:12:54
scholar and practice meditation this is 00:12:57
scholar and practice meditation this is not an anti-intellectual point of view I 00:12:57
not an anti-intellectual point of view I 00:13:00
not an anti-intellectual point of view I imagine that most of you here are either 00:13:00
imagine that most of you here are either 00:13:03
imagine that most of you here are either in college or college educated and the 00:13:03
in college or college educated and the 00:13:08
in college or college educated and the foundation of the intellectual life good 00:13:08
foundation of the intellectual life good 00:13:12
foundation of the intellectual life good scholarship requires that you meditate 00:13:12
scholarship requires that you meditate 00:13:16
scholarship requires that you meditate but in saying that I have got myself 00:13:16
but in saying that I have got myself 00:13:20
but in saying that I have got myself into a linguistic trap because you see I 00:13:20
into a linguistic trap because you see I 00:13:24
into a linguistic trap because you see I seem to be pitching it to you as if it 00:13:24
seem to be pitching it to you as if it 00:13:26
seem to be pitching it to you as if it was something good for you 00:13:26
was something good for you 00:13:28
was something good for you as if it would give you a better future 00:13:28
as if it would give you a better future 00:13:33
as if it would give you a better future as if it would improve you now so long 00:13:33
as if it would improve you now so long 00:13:39
as if it would improve you now so long as such motivations and considerations 00:13:39
as such motivations and considerations 00:13:41
as such motivations and considerations exist you're not meditating we talk 00:13:41
exist you're not meditating we talk 00:13:45
exist you're not meditating we talk sometimes about the practice of 00:13:45
sometimes about the practice of 00:13:46
sometimes about the practice of meditation as if it were like practicing 00:13:46
meditation as if it were like practicing 00:13:48
meditation as if it were like practicing the piano preparing for a concert it's 00:13:48
the piano preparing for a concert it's 00:13:52
the piano preparing for a concert it's much more like the practice of medicine 00:13:52
much more like the practice of medicine 00:13:54
much more like the practice of medicine as when you say well I practice medicine 00:13:54
as when you say well I practice medicine 00:13:57
as when you say well I practice medicine means you do it every day it's your way 00:13:57
means you do it every day it's your way 00:13:59
means you do it every day it's your way of life so you would this is a very odd 00:13:59
of life so you would this is a very odd 00:14:04
of life so you would this is a very odd thing for Westerners to understand and 00:14:04
thing for Westerners to understand and 00:14:06
thing for Westerners to understand and particularly for Americans because we 00:14:06
particularly for Americans because we 00:14:10
particularly for Americans because we are so fixated on the future when we say 00:14:10
are so fixated on the future when we say 00:14:14
are so fixated on the future when we say we want to put something down we say it 00:14:14
we want to put something down we say it 00:14:16
we want to put something down we say it has no future well do you much better to 00:14:16
has no future well do you much better to 00:14:23
has no future well do you much better to have a present because if you don't 00:14:23
have a present because if you don't 00:14:27
have a present because if you don't it's useless to make plans because when 00:14:27
it's useless to make plans because when 00:14:31
it's useless to make plans because when they work out you won't be there to 00:14:31
they work out you won't be there to 00:14:34
they work out you won't be there to enjoy them you'll be thinking of 00:14:34
enjoy them you'll be thinking of 00:14:35
enjoy them you'll be thinking of something else so this is one activity 00:14:35
something else so this is one activity 00:14:41
something else so this is one activity which is curiously different from all 00:14:41
which is curiously different from all 00:14:44
which is curiously different from all others it has no purpose 00:14:44
it's rather like music or dancing in 00:15:00
it's rather like music or dancing in 00:15:02
it's rather like music or dancing in that respect why do you listen to music 00:15:02
supposing there would be a culture with 00:15:10
supposing there would be a culture with 00:15:12
supposing there would be a culture with no music would you consider that a high 00:15:12
no music would you consider that a high 00:15:15
no music would you consider that a high culture but why do you do it well some 00:15:15
culture but why do you do it well some 00:15:22
culture but why do you do it well some people say what we go to the concert to 00:15:22
people say what we go to the concert to 00:15:24
people say what we go to the concert to improve our minds well if you do it that 00:15:24
improve our minds well if you do it that 00:15:27
improve our minds well if you do it that you're not listening as you see music is 00:15:27
you're not listening as you see music is 00:15:33
you're not listening as you see music is peculiar in that it is a marvelous 00:15:33
peculiar in that it is a marvelous 00:15:36
peculiar in that it is a marvelous pattern of sounds that doesn't mean 00:15:36
pattern of sounds that doesn't mean 00:15:38
pattern of sounds that doesn't mean anything 00:15:38
anything 00:15:39
anything there is some inferior music that means 00:15:39
there is some inferior music that means 00:15:41
there is some inferior music that means something what we call prog music like 00:15:41
something what we call prog music like 00:15:45
something what we call prog music like the Tchaikovsky 1812 overture or some of 00:15:45
the Tchaikovsky 1812 overture or some of 00:15:50
the Tchaikovsky 1812 overture or some of Debussy 's perpetration such as the in 00:15:50
Debussy 's perpetration such as the in 00:15:54
Debussy 's perpetration such as the in glutted Cathedral where it's creating 00:15:54
glutted Cathedral where it's creating 00:15:59
glutted Cathedral where it's creating visual pictures or imitating natural 00:15:59
visual pictures or imitating natural 00:16:03
visual pictures or imitating natural noises the beat of horses hooves or 00:16:03
noises the beat of horses hooves or 00:16:06
noises the beat of horses hooves or Rowling's of military drums and the 00:16:06
Rowling's of military drums and the 00:16:09
Rowling's of military drums and the sound of the waves etc just imitation 00:16:09
sound of the waves etc just imitation 00:16:12
sound of the waves etc just imitation now great music as composed by Bach or 00:16:12
now great music as composed by Bach or 00:16:15
now great music as composed by Bach or Mozart or the Hindu music or some of the 00:16:15
Mozart or the Hindu music or some of the 00:16:21
Mozart or the Hindu music or some of the great contemporary composers doesn't 00:16:21
great contemporary composers doesn't 00:16:25
great contemporary composers doesn't mean anything except itself it isn't 00:16:25
mean anything except itself it isn't 00:16:30
mean anything except itself it isn't going anywhere 00:16:30
going anywhere 00:16:31
going anywhere otherwise the fastest orchestras would 00:16:31
otherwise the fastest orchestras would 00:16:33
otherwise the fastest orchestras would be considered the best 00:16:33
so we in music become centered we come 00:16:43
so we in music become centered we come 00:16:51
so we in music become centered we come into the present not a hairline present 00:16:51
into the present not a hairline present 00:16:56
into the present not a hairline present mind you it's an expanded present 00:16:56
mind you it's an expanded present 00:16:59
mind you it's an expanded present because if you had a hairline present 00:16:59
because if you had a hairline present 00:17:01
because if you had a hairline present you wouldn't be able to hear one note 00:17:01
you wouldn't be able to hear one note 00:17:02
you wouldn't be able to hear one note after another you wouldn't know what 00:17:02
after another you wouldn't know what 00:17:04
after another you wouldn't know what note you'd heard before so you couldn't 00:17:04
note you'd heard before so you couldn't 00:17:09
note you'd heard before so you couldn't hear melody 00:17:09
but in this you are released into 00:17:19
but in this you are released into 00:17:23
but in this you are released into reality that's why it is said that the 00:17:23
reality that's why it is said that the 00:17:27
reality that's why it is said that the angels in heaven have harps and why they 00:17:27
angels in heaven have harps and why they 00:17:31
angels in heaven have harps and why they circle the throne of God and sing 00:17:31
circle the throne of God and sing 00:17:34
circle the throne of God and sing alleluia alleluia alleluia which 00:17:34
alleluia alleluia alleluia which 00:17:37
alleluia alleluia alleluia which although who does mean hail to the Lord 00:17:37
although who does mean hail to the Lord 00:17:41
although who does mean hail to the Lord doesn't really mean anything when you 00:17:41
doesn't really mean anything when you 00:17:44
doesn't really mean anything when you really get swinging with an Alleluia 00:17:44
it's just an Olivia you don't think of 00:17:47
it's just an Olivia you don't think of 00:17:54
it's just an Olivia you don't think of the meaning of it you see because you 00:17:54
the meaning of it you see because you 00:17:56
the meaning of it you see because you can't think of the meaning of God what 00:17:56
can't think of the meaning of God what 00:17:58
can't think of the meaning of God what does God mean what is God useful for and 00:17:58
does God mean what is God useful for and 00:18:08
does God mean what is God useful for and so in the same way you can ask what does 00:18:08
so in the same way you can ask what does 00:18:10
so in the same way you can ask what does a tree mean what does a cloud mean what 00:18:10
a tree mean what does a cloud mean what 00:18:13
a tree mean what does a cloud mean what does a fern mean what's it all about 00:18:13
does a fern mean what's it all about 00:18:15
does a fern mean what's it all about well we've got on all kinds of weird 00:18:15
well we've got on all kinds of weird 00:18:18
well we've got on all kinds of weird theories that the ferns exists in a 00:18:18
theories that the ferns exists in a 00:18:21
theories that the ferns exists in a certain way in order to propagate 00:18:21
certain way in order to propagate 00:18:22
certain way in order to propagate themselves like birds do all this thing 00:18:22
themselves like birds do all this thing 00:18:26
themselves like birds do all this thing in order to lay eggs so more birds come 00:18:26
in order to lay eggs so more birds come 00:18:28
in order to lay eggs so more birds come out and the whole point of that is that 00:18:28
out and the whole point of that is that 00:18:31
out and the whole point of that is that there shall be more bird still is a 00:18:31
there shall be more bird still is a 00:18:34
there shall be more bird still is a purely engineering approach to life 00:18:34
which is completely senseless things 00:18:40
which is completely senseless things 00:18:47
which is completely senseless things don't mean anything birds don't mean 00:18:47
don't mean anything birds don't mean 00:18:49
don't mean anything birds don't mean anything trees don't mean anything words 00:18:49
anything trees don't mean anything words 00:18:51
anything trees don't mean anything words mean something yes because they point to 00:18:51
mean something yes because they point to 00:18:54
mean something yes because they point to something beyond themselves there are 00:18:54
something beyond themselves there are 00:18:56
something beyond themselves there are signs but if you take words too 00:18:56
signs but if you take words too 00:19:01
signs but if you take words too seriously or like a person who climbs a 00:19:01
seriously or like a person who climbs a 00:19:03
seriously or like a person who climbs a signpost instead of going where it 00:19:03
signpost instead of going where it 00:19:05
signpost instead of going where it points and so if you suddenly said but 00:19:05
points and so if you suddenly said but 00:19:13
points and so if you suddenly said but my life has no meaning you're 00:19:13
my life has no meaning you're 00:19:16
my life has no meaning you're identifying yourself with a word that's 00:19:16
identifying yourself with a word that's 00:19:19
identifying yourself with a word that's what we do when we are when if I would 00:19:19
what we do when we are when if I would 00:19:22
what we do when we are when if I would identify myself with Alan Watts that 00:19:22
identify myself with Alan Watts that 00:19:25
identify myself with Alan Watts that would be identifying myself with a 00:19:25
would be identifying myself with a 00:19:27
would be identifying myself with a concept with words in a rather 00:19:27
concept with words in a rather 00:19:30
concept with words in a rather complicated mess of words to be sure 00:19:30
complicated mess of words to be sure 00:19:33
complicated mess of words to be sure but still I would have made that mistake 00:19:33
so then it has to be understood about 00:19:40
so then it has to be understood about 00:19:44
so then it has to be understood about meditation that it's not an exercise 00:19:44
meditation that it's not an exercise 00:19:49
meditation that it's not an exercise it's not a gymnastic it's not the 00:19:49
it's not a gymnastic it's not the 00:19:51
it's not a gymnastic it's not the ordinary sort of self-improvement 00:19:51
ordinary sort of self-improvement 00:19:53
ordinary sort of self-improvement procedure and one does it not to be good 00:19:53
procedure and one does it not to be good 00:19:58
procedure and one does it not to be good for you but just because you dig it 00:19:58
because at last you find yourself in the 00:20:04
because at last you find yourself in the 00:20:07
because at last you find yourself in the center the eternal now in which past and 00:20:07
center the eternal now in which past and 00:20:14
center the eternal now in which past and future drop away in which divisions 00:20:14
future drop away in which divisions 00:20:21
future drop away in which divisions created by words drop away can you point 00:20:21
created by words drop away can you point 00:20:26
created by words drop away can you point to the division between my fault by five 00:20:26
to the division between my fault by five 00:20:29
to the division between my fault by five fingers can you in other words touch the 00:20:29
fingers can you in other words touch the 00:20:33
fingers can you in other words touch the difference between them can't be done 00:20:33
because the difference is conceptual 00:20:41
because the difference is conceptual 00:20:44
because the difference is conceptual true they can all move independently but 00:20:44
true they can all move independently but 00:20:50
true they can all move independently but only because they're one with the body 00:20:50
only because they're one with the body 00:20:55
only because they're one with the body and the body is one with its environment 00:20:55
and the body is one with its environment 00:20:59
and the body is one with its environment you cannot separate those like bees and 00:20:59
you cannot separate those like bees and 00:21:04
you cannot separate those like bees and flowers where there are no flowers there 00:21:04
flowers where there are no flowers there 00:21:07
flowers where there are no flowers there are no bees where there are no bees 00:21:07
are no bees where there are no bees 00:21:08
are no bees where there are no bees there are no flowers they look very 00:21:08
there are no flowers they look very 00:21:11
there are no flowers they look very different but they are essentially one 00:21:11
different but they are essentially one 00:21:13
different but they are essentially one organism the head and the feet look very 00:21:13
organism the head and the feet look very 00:21:17
organism the head and the feet look very different but they are parts of one 00:21:17
different but they are parts of one 00:21:19
different but they are parts of one organism not really parts parts is a 00:21:19
organism not really parts parts is a 00:21:22
organism not really parts parts is a mechanical word like got new spare parts 00:21:22
mechanical word like got new spare parts 00:21:26
mechanical word like got new spare parts the organism doesn't have parts it has 00:21:26
the organism doesn't have parts it has 00:21:29
the organism doesn't have parts it has features 00:21:29
now there's not very much point in 00:21:35
now there's not very much point in 00:21:38
now there's not very much point in merely talking about this you can 00:21:38
merely talking about this you can 00:21:44
merely talking about this you can understand it only by doing it and I'm 00:21:44
understand it only by doing it and I'm 00:21:49
understand it only by doing it and I'm sorry that our facilities do not allow 00:21:49
sorry that our facilities do not allow 00:21:52
sorry that our facilities do not allow you to sit on the floor and to get sort 00:21:52
you to sit on the floor and to get sort 00:21:57
you to sit on the floor and to get sort of in the right relaxed awaked position 00:21:57
of in the right relaxed awaked position 00:22:01
of in the right relaxed awaked position but before we go into that I just want 00:22:01
but before we go into that I just want 00:22:05
but before we go into that I just want to know if there are any questions if 00:22:05
to know if there are any questions if 00:22:07
to know if there are any questions if I've made myself clear and if there are 00:22:07
I've made myself clear and if there are 00:22:10
I've made myself clear and if there are any of you who find me utterly 00:22:10
any of you who find me utterly 00:22:12
any of you who find me utterly unintelligible so if you wave a hand at 00:22:12
unintelligible so if you wave a hand at 00:22:17
unintelligible so if you wave a hand at me I'll recognize you 00:22:17
you must be careful about that you 00:22:30
you must be careful about that you 00:22:33
you must be careful about that you cannot smooth rough water with a flat 00:22:33
cannot smooth rough water with a flat 00:22:35
cannot smooth rough water with a flat iron so don't try not to think you just 00:22:35
iron so don't try not to think you just 00:22:44
iron so don't try not to think you just allow your thoughts to do whatever they 00:22:44
allow your thoughts to do whatever they 00:22:48
allow your thoughts to do whatever they want to do but you listen to them like 00:22:48
want to do but you listen to them like 00:22:50
want to do but you listen to them like you listen to birds chattering outside 00:22:50
you listen to birds chattering outside 00:22:52
you listen to birds chattering outside the window 00:22:52
it would be the question is it sounds 00:23:11
it would be the question is it sounds 00:23:15
it would be the question is it sounds like Brett brainwashing where like when 00:23:15
like Brett brainwashing where like when 00:23:18
like Brett brainwashing where like when in Vietnam they put prisoners of war in 00:23:18
in Vietnam they put prisoners of war in 00:23:20
in Vietnam they put prisoners of war in front of blank walls and of course that 00:23:20
front of blank walls and of course that 00:23:25
front of blank walls and of course that would be brainwashing to a person who 00:23:25
would be brainwashing to a person who 00:23:27
would be brainwashing to a person who didn't know how to meditate and they 00:23:27
didn't know how to meditate and they 00:23:30
didn't know how to meditate and they recognized perfectly well that we don't 00:23:30
recognized perfectly well that we don't 00:23:32
recognized perfectly well that we don't and therefore forced you see it's forced 00:23:32
and therefore forced you see it's forced 00:23:36
and therefore forced you see it's forced meditation which would be the horrors 00:23:36
meditation which would be the horrors 00:23:40
meditation which would be the horrors the form of torture that's like people 00:23:40
the form of torture that's like people 00:23:42
the form of torture that's like people don't like silent sell the radio on or 00:23:42
don't like silent sell the radio on or 00:23:44
don't like silent sell the radio on or something you see all the time have a 00:23:44
something you see all the time have a 00:23:45
something you see all the time have a radio in your car and everywhere all is 00:23:45
radio in your car and everywhere all is 00:23:48
radio in your car and everywhere all is chatta chatta chatta chatta we don't 00:23:48
chatta chatta chatta chatta we don't 00:23:51
chatta chatta chatta chatta we don't like silence and therefore they know 00:23:51
like silence and therefore they know 00:23:53
like silence and therefore they know it's a torture for us 00:23:53
it is for them for that matter - there's 00:24:03
it is for them for that matter - there's 00:24:06
it is for them for that matter - there's not many of them are experienced 00:24:06
not many of them are experienced 00:24:07
not many of them are experienced meditators they were they wouldn't be 00:24:07
meditators they were they wouldn't be 00:24:09
meditators they were they wouldn't be involved in this mess 00:24:09
yes 00:24:26
yes 00:24:29
yes well now you see you've got to 00:24:36
yes well now you see you've got to 00:24:49
yes well now you see you've got to realize that we think of the world 00:24:49
realize that we think of the world 00:24:51
realize that we think of the world largely in terms of Newtonian mechanics 00:24:51
and that goes back to Greek philosophy 00:24:56
and that goes back to Greek philosophy 00:25:01
and that goes back to Greek philosophy and all their ideas of nature and by and 00:25:01
and all their ideas of nature and by and 00:25:09
and all their ideas of nature and by and large these people were always thinking 00:25:09
large these people were always thinking 00:25:10
large these people were always thinking about nature by analogy with the game of 00:25:10
about nature by analogy with the game of 00:25:12
about nature by analogy with the game of billiards and so when a ball moves it 00:25:12
billiards and so when a ball moves it 00:25:17
billiards and so when a ball moves it was hit by a cue and we say the ball 00:25:17
was hit by a cue and we say the ball 00:25:23
was hit by a cue and we say the ball moves because it was hit by the cue so 00:25:23
moves because it was hit by the cue so 00:25:27
moves because it was hit by the cue so when you do something people ask what 00:25:27
when you do something people ask what 00:25:30
when you do something people ask what hit you what was your motivation that 00:25:30
hit you what was your motivation that 00:25:33
hit you what was your motivation that caused you to behave in this way but you 00:25:33
caused you to behave in this way but you 00:25:37
caused you to behave in this way but you must understand that cause and effect is 00:25:37
must understand that cause and effect is 00:25:40
must understand that cause and effect is a defective way of describing nature 00:25:40
what happened was this that when we 00:25:46
what happened was this that when we 00:25:49
what happened was this that when we separated events into separate bits you 00:25:49
separated events into separate bits you 00:25:52
separated events into separate bits you see we forgot that we are done that in 00:25:52
see we forgot that we are done that in 00:25:58
see we forgot that we are done that in order to talk about the event like when 00:25:58
order to talk about the event like when 00:26:02
order to talk about the event like when you separate a wiggle and you give names 00:26:02
you separate a wiggle and you give names 00:26:05
you separate a wiggle and you give names to different say Bay's or capes or 00:26:05
to different say Bay's or capes or 00:26:09
to different say Bay's or capes or mountains on a territory that naming 00:26:09
mountains on a territory that naming 00:26:14
mountains on a territory that naming doesn't actually separate them so when 00:26:14
doesn't actually separate them so when 00:26:21
doesn't actually separate them so when you get motion time is only a measure of 00:26:21
you get motion time is only a measure of 00:26:23
you get motion time is only a measure of motion we begin to think about bits of 00:26:23
motion we begin to think about bits of 00:26:27
motion we begin to think about bits of motion and we forget we did that then we 00:26:27
motion and we forget we did that then we 00:26:33
motion and we forget we did that then we suddenly ask the question but how did 00:26:33
suddenly ask the question but how did 00:26:35
suddenly ask the question but how did this bit get there and then we say oh it 00:26:35
this bit get there and then we say oh it 00:26:39
this bit get there and then we say oh it was because of that bit that came before 00:26:39
was because of that bit that came before 00:26:41
was because of that bit that came before it we don't see that it's all one 00:26:41
when a cat walks along its head comes 00:26:48
when a cat walks along its head comes 00:26:52
when a cat walks along its head comes first and its tail follows now is the 00:26:52
first and its tail follows now is the 00:26:56
first and its tail follows now is the head the cause of the tail or is the 00:26:56
head the cause of the tail or is the 00:27:00
head the cause of the tail or is the tail the cause of the head well it's all 00:27:00
tail the cause of the head well it's all 00:27:05
tail the cause of the head well it's all one cat the whole cat moves when a snake 00:27:05
one cat the whole cat moves when a snake 00:27:09
one cat the whole cat moves when a snake moves which side moves first the left or 00:27:09
moves which side moves first the left or 00:27:12
moves which side moves first the left or the right say it all goes together but 00:27:12
the right say it all goes together but 00:27:21
the right say it all goes together but if you want to define yourself as a 00:27:21
if you want to define yourself as a 00:27:22
if you want to define yourself as a billiard ball then you will play life 00:27:22
billiard ball then you will play life 00:27:29
billiard ball then you will play life like the past was responsible for you 00:27:29
like the past was responsible for you 00:27:32
like the past was responsible for you and if you believe it hard enough you'll 00:27:32
and if you believe it hard enough you'll 00:27:36
and if you believe it hard enough you'll feel it and that's what's happened to 00:27:36
feel it and that's what's happened to 00:27:40
feel it and that's what's happened to practically all of us so we don't leap 00:27:40
practically all of us so we don't leap 00:27:45
practically all of us so we don't leap we realize that we are living out of now 00:27:45
we realize that we are living out of now 00:27:47
we realize that we are living out of now and throwing the past behind us yes in 00:27:47
and throwing the past behind us yes in 00:27:55
and throwing the past behind us yes in the back 00:27:55
I'm leery of ask answering such a 00:28:07
I'm leery of ask answering such a 00:28:10
I'm leery of ask answering such a question 00:28:10
because I seem to be living in an area 00:28:15
because I seem to be living in an area 00:28:17
because I seem to be living in an area where there is incomplete freedom of 00:28:17
where there is incomplete freedom of 00:28:20
where there is incomplete freedom of speech yes sure I've made it pretty 00:28:20
speech yes sure I've made it pretty 00:28:33
speech yes sure I've made it pretty clear and I think sober statement of the 00:28:33
clear and I think sober statement of the 00:28:38
clear and I think sober statement of the powers and dangers of these things in 00:28:38
powers and dangers of these things in 00:28:41
powers and dangers of these things in that book and now it is due to the fact 00:28:41
that book and now it is due to the fact 00:29:19
that book and now it is due to the fact that the meditator meditates and has 00:29:19
that the meditator meditates and has 00:29:24
that the meditator meditates and has liberated himself from his past which 00:29:24
liberated himself from his past which 00:29:28
liberated himself from his past which was an idea in his head 00:29:28
it's a little bit like that but language 00:29:36
it's a little bit like that but language 00:29:41
it's a little bit like that but language is so structured that I cannot talk 00:29:41
is so structured that I cannot talk 00:29:46
is so structured that I cannot talk without this implication we can practice 00:29:46
without this implication we can practice 00:29:53
without this implication we can practice we can enter into the meditation state 00:29:53
we can enter into the meditation state 00:29:55
we can enter into the meditation state and see why that would be so but we 00:29:55
and see why that would be so but we 00:29:58
and see why that would be so but we would see it directly from that state 00:29:58
would see it directly from that state 00:30:00
would see it directly from that state not from any explanation 00:30:00
that's merely an illusion of grammar 00:30:16
that's merely an illusion of grammar 00:30:20
that's merely an illusion of grammar it's because in certain languages have 00:30:20
it's because in certain languages have 00:30:23
it's because in certain languages have the rule that all verbs have to have 00:30:23
the rule that all verbs have to have 00:30:24
the rule that all verbs have to have subjects like in the sentence it is 00:30:24
subjects like in the sentence it is 00:30:27
subjects like in the sentence it is raining what is the zip so how on earth 00:30:27
raining what is the zip so how on earth 00:30:38
raining what is the zip so how on earth can one get a verb out of a noun a 00:30:38
process out of a thing so you just can't 00:30:44
process out of a thing so you just can't 00:30:48
process out of a thing so you just can't do it it's the old problem - of spirit 00:30:48
do it it's the old problem - of spirit 00:30:51
do it it's the old problem - of spirit and matter how can you get a spirit to 00:30:51
and matter how can you get a spirit to 00:30:54
and matter how can you get a spirit to influence matter all good ghosts walk 00:30:54
influence matter all good ghosts walk 00:30:57
influence matter all good ghosts walk straight through brick walls without 00:30:57
straight through brick walls without 00:30:58
straight through brick walls without disturbing the bricks so how can a ghost 00:30:58
disturbing the bricks so how can a ghost 00:31:01
disturbing the bricks so how can a ghost in your body lift an arm but I'm not 00:31:01
in your body lift an arm but I'm not 00:31:07
in your body lift an arm but I'm not saying that there is no ghost I'm also 00:31:07
saying that there is no ghost I'm also 00:31:14
saying that there is no ghost I'm also saying well if I'm saying there is no 00:31:14
saying well if I'm saying there is no 00:31:16
saying well if I'm saying there is no ghost I'm also saying there is no body 00:31:16
it's just process or call it pattern 00:31:20
it's just process or call it pattern 00:31:25
it's just process or call it pattern moving pattern pattern patterns of 00:31:25
moving pattern pattern patterns of 00:31:28
moving pattern pattern patterns of motion patterning zuv motions patterning 00:31:28
motion patterning zuv motions patterning 00:31:32
motion patterning zuv motions patterning zuv motioning x' so we are always you 00:31:32
zuv motioning x' so we are always you 00:31:40
zuv motioning x' so we are always you see language keeps creating ghosts and 00:31:40
see language keeps creating ghosts and 00:31:45
see language keeps creating ghosts and like the lightning flashed 00:31:45
like the lightning flashed 00:31:49
like the lightning flashed well obviously the flashing was the same 00:31:49
well obviously the flashing was the same 00:31:51
well obviously the flashing was the same as the lightning so we divided the 00:31:51
as the lightning so we divided the 00:31:58
as the lightning so we divided the single process into two pieces one 00:31:58
single process into two pieces one 00:32:01
single process into two pieces one something called lightning which does 00:32:01
something called lightning which does 00:32:03
something called lightning which does something called flashing 00:32:03
yes gentleman in the white shirt 00:32:11
yes it is of course possible to meditate 00:32:32
yes it is of course possible to meditate 00:32:36
yes it is of course possible to meditate without intending to do so but it's also 00:32:36
without intending to do so but it's also 00:32:40
without intending to do so but it's also possible in retrospect to realize that 00:32:40
possible in retrospect to realize that 00:32:42
possible in retrospect to realize that you were meditating you don't lose the 00:32:42
you were meditating you don't lose the 00:32:45
you were meditating you don't lose the Faculty of discursive thought you don't 00:32:45
Faculty of discursive thought you don't 00:32:50
Faculty of discursive thought you don't get your mind permanently wiped out in 00:32:50
get your mind permanently wiped out in 00:32:52
get your mind permanently wiped out in that sense you still remember your name 00:32:52
that sense you still remember your name 00:32:56
that sense you still remember your name address and telephone number your social 00:32:56
address and telephone number your social 00:32:58
address and telephone number your social security number and who you're supposed 00:32:58
security number and who you're supposed 00:33:00
security number and who you're supposed to be in what role you're supposed to be 00:33:00
to be in what role you're supposed to be 00:33:02
to be in what role you're supposed to be playing but you know that's a big act 00:33:02
that's the difference between a crazy 00:33:09
that's the difference between a crazy 00:33:11
that's the difference between a crazy person and an enlightened person a crazy 00:33:11
person and an enlightened person a crazy 00:33:14
person and an enlightened person a crazy person might get by accident into some 00:33:14
person might get by accident into some 00:33:16
person might get by accident into some of these states and get so lost that he 00:33:16
of these states and get so lost that he 00:33:19
of these states and get so lost that he wouldn't know how to come back to the 00:33:19
wouldn't know how to come back to the 00:33:21
wouldn't know how to come back to the world of ordinary normal conventions but 00:33:21
world of ordinary normal conventions but 00:33:24
world of ordinary normal conventions but when meditation is properly practiced 00:33:24
when meditation is properly practiced 00:33:26
when meditation is properly practiced you can also operate in the conventional 00:33:26
you can also operate in the conventional 00:33:28
you can also operate in the conventional world yes the red arm I see over there 00:33:28
does the concept of will fit in not 00:33:41
does the concept of will fit in not 00:33:46
does the concept of will fit in not really no I will try to show you 00:33:46
really no I will try to show you 00:33:52
really no I will try to show you practically why it is an unnecessary 00:33:52
practically why it is an unnecessary 00:33:57
practically why it is an unnecessary concept how you can have far more energy 00:33:57
concept how you can have far more energy 00:34:02
concept how you can have far more energy without using your will than you can 00:34:02
without using your will than you can 00:34:04
without using your will than you can with using it see the will implies a 00:34:04
with using it see the will implies a 00:34:10
with using it see the will implies a separation of man and nature and 00:34:10
separation of man and nature and 00:34:16
separation of man and nature and therefore we asked the question do we 00:34:16
therefore we asked the question do we 00:34:18
therefore we asked the question do we have free will or are we determined that 00:34:18
have free will or are we determined that 00:34:22
have free will or are we determined that means are you a bus or a tram and both 00:34:22
means are you a bus or a tram and both 00:34:29
means are you a bus or a tram and both concepts are off the point because both 00:34:29
concepts are off the point because both 00:34:33
concepts are off the point because both of them presuppose a fundamental 00:34:33
of them presuppose a fundamental 00:34:35
of them presuppose a fundamental separation of the individual from the 00:34:35
separation of the individual from the 00:34:38
separation of the individual from the universe does it kick you around or do 00:34:38
universe does it kick you around or do 00:34:41
universe does it kick you around or do you kick it around and if you think in 00:34:41
you kick it around and if you think in 00:34:45
you kick it around and if you think in that way you lose energy just as my 00:34:45
that way you lose energy just as my 00:34:49
that way you lose energy just as my finger would lose energy if I separated 00:34:49
finger would lose energy if I separated 00:34:51
finger would lose energy if I separated it from the hand 00:34:51
well now look we're going to take an 00:34:54
well now look we're going to take an 00:34:57
well now look we're going to take an intermission for five minutes in case 00:34:57
intermission for five minutes in case 00:35:00
intermission for five minutes in case any of you have to leave or tired or 00:35:00
any of you have to leave or tired or 00:35:02
any of you have to leave or tired or bored and then we'll come back to the 00:35:02
bored and then we'll come back to the 00:35:05
bored and then we'll come back to the real business of this gathering within 00:35:05