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in order to get the principle of a 00:00:01

in order to get the principle of a 00:00:03

in order to get the principle of a network across I have to convey to you 00:00:03

network across I have to convey to you 00:00:07

network across I have to convey to you an idea which is extremely simple but 00:00:07

an idea which is extremely simple but 00:00:11

an idea which is extremely simple but which is difficult to grasp only because 00:00:11

which is difficult to grasp only because 00:00:14

which is difficult to grasp only because we're not used to it we are used to 00:00:14

we're not used to it we are used to 00:00:19

we're not used to it we are used to thinking as Westerners as having a 00:00:19

thinking as Westerners as having a 00:00:25

thinking as Westerners as having a certain kind of language and therefore a 00:00:25

certain kind of language and therefore a 00:00:28

certain kind of language and therefore a certain kind of logic that goes with it 00:00:28

certain kind of logic that goes with it 00:00:31

certain kind of logic that goes with it we're used to thinking of the world in 00:00:31

we're used to thinking of the world in 00:00:35

we're used to thinking of the world in terms of the game of billions in other 00:00:35

terms of the game of billions in other 00:00:42

terms of the game of billions in other words we are still thinking about our 00:00:42

words we are still thinking about our 00:00:46

words we are still thinking about our psychology our bodies and their 00:00:46

psychology our bodies and their 00:00:52

psychology our bodies and their relationship to the outside world in 00:00:52

relationship to the outside world in 00:00:55

relationship to the outside world in terms of what would scientifically be 00:00:55

terms of what would scientifically be 00:00:58

terms of what would scientifically be called Newtonian mechanics and Newtonian 00:00:58

called Newtonian mechanics and Newtonian 00:01:07

called Newtonian mechanics and Newtonian mechanics has a very long history 00:01:07

mechanics has a very long history 00:01:08

mechanics has a very long history because it goes back to some of the 00:01:08

because it goes back to some of the 00:01:12

because it goes back to some of the atomic theories of people like 00:01:12

atomic theories of people like 00:01:13

atomic theories of people like Democritus who were the among the great 00:01:13

Democritus who were the among the great 00:01:19

Democritus who were the among the great pre-socratic philosophers of ancient 00:01:19

pre-socratic philosophers of ancient 00:01:21

pre-socratic philosophers of ancient Greece and so we may as well begin with 00:01:21

Greece and so we may as well begin with 00:01:27

Greece and so we may as well begin with the a little bit about the history of 00:01:27

the a little bit about the history of 00:01:29

the a little bit about the history of the idea of an atom because this is 00:01:29

the idea of an atom because this is 00:01:32

the idea of an atom because this is always fascinated people what is the 00:01:32

always fascinated people what is the 00:01:36

always fascinated people what is the world fundamentally what is all this but 00:01:36

world fundamentally what is all this but 00:01:41

world fundamentally what is all this but one way of finding out is to take a 00:01:41

one way of finding out is to take a 00:01:43

one way of finding out is to take a knife and chop something in two so you 00:01:43

knife and chop something in two so you 00:01:46

knife and chop something in two so you could see what's inside it what is an 00:01:46

could see what's inside it what is an 00:01:49

could see what's inside it what is an apple inside what is a seed inside what 00:01:49

apple inside what is a seed inside what 00:01:53

apple inside what is a seed inside what is a human body inside and then you find 00:01:53

is a human body inside and then you find 00:01:57

is a human body inside and then you find that when you chop a thing in two you've 00:01:57

that when you chop a thing in two you've 00:02:00

that when you chop a thing in two you've got two pieces but the cutting reveals 00:02:00

got two pieces but the cutting reveals 00:02:04

got two pieces but the cutting reveals that that has a structure inside and the 00:02:04

that that has a structure inside and the 00:02:07

that that has a structure inside and the structure is composed of what we call 00:02:07

structure is composed of what we call 00:02:09

structure is composed of what we call organs or parts 00:02:09

organs or parts 00:02:12

organs or parts and then in turn in order to inquire 00:02:12

and then in turn in order to inquire 00:02:14

and then in turn in order to inquire into them we take them and we chop them 00:02:14

into them we take them and we chop them 00:02:16

into them we take them and we chop them apart and in our curiosity to find out 00:02:16

apart and in our curiosity to find out 00:02:21

apart and in our curiosity to find out how it's made in just the same way that 00:02:21

how it's made in just the same way that 00:02:23

how it's made in just the same way that a child will take a toy to pieces we 00:02:23

a child will take a toy to pieces we 00:02:28

a child will take a toy to pieces we chop and chop and chop until we've got 00:02:28

chop and chop and chop until we've got 00:02:32

chop and chop and chop until we've got bits so small that they are the same 00:02:32

bits so small that they are the same 00:02:34

bits so small that they are the same width as the edge of the knife and they 00:02:34

width as the edge of the knife and they 00:02:38

width as the edge of the knife and they can't be cut any more unless we can find 00:02:38

can't be cut any more unless we can find 00:02:40

can't be cut any more unless we can find a finer knife and so when we get down to 00:02:40

a finer knife and so when we get down to 00:02:44

a finer knife and so when we get down to that bit beyond which there is no bitter 00:02:44

that bit beyond which there is no bitter 00:02:47

that bit beyond which there is no bitter that is to say it can't be chopped any 00:02:47

that is to say it can't be chopped any 00:02:49

that is to say it can't be chopped any further it is called in Greek atomos 00:02:49

further it is called in Greek atomos 00:02:51

further it is called in Greek atomos which means the the first letter R means 00:02:51

which means the the first letter R means 00:02:56

which means the the first letter R means none thomas cuttable and so the word 00:02:56

none thomas cuttable and so the word 00:03:03

none thomas cuttable and so the word adam means that smallest particle of the 00:03:03

adam means that smallest particle of the 00:03:08

adam means that smallest particle of the world which can't be cut into any 00:03:08

world which can't be cut into any 00:03:10

world which can't be cut into any smaller particle that's the original 00:03:10

smaller particle that's the original 00:03:12

smaller particle that's the original idea of atomism so then the the went 00:03:12

idea of atomism so then the the went 00:03:18

idea of atomism so then the the went further than that to the notion that the 00:03:18

further than that to the notion that the 00:03:21

further than that to the notion that the world was built of atoms in the same 00:03:21

world was built of atoms in the same 00:03:23

world was built of atoms in the same sort of way that a house could be built 00:03:23

sort of way that a house could be built 00:03:25

sort of way that a house could be built of bricks or stones the world is seen 00:03:25

of bricks or stones the world is seen 00:03:29

of bricks or stones the world is seen therefore as a composite of fundamental 00:03:29

therefore as a composite of fundamental 00:03:34

therefore as a composite of fundamental particles then what remained to be 00:03:34

particles then what remained to be 00:03:37

particles then what remained to be discovered was the laws governing the 00:03:37

discovered was the laws governing the 00:03:40

discovered was the laws governing the relationship between these particles and 00:03:40

relationship between these particles and 00:03:42

relationship between these particles and so naturally one thought of them as 00:03:42

so naturally one thought of them as 00:03:45

so naturally one thought of them as little balls why balls because balls are 00:03:45

little balls why balls because balls are 00:03:50

little balls why balls because balls are hard to cut if you take a ball bearing 00:03:50

hard to cut if you take a ball bearing 00:03:54

hard to cut if you take a ball bearing and hit at it with a sword it's 00:03:54

and hit at it with a sword it's 00:03:56

and hit at it with a sword it's allowable to jump right off to one side 00:03:56

allowable to jump right off to one side 00:03:58

allowable to jump right off to one side a cube will submit to being cut but a 00:03:58

a cube will submit to being cut but a 00:04:01

a cube will submit to being cut but a ball is very difficult to get at a very 00:04:01

ball is very difficult to get at a very 00:04:04

ball is very difficult to get at a very strong form of nature so people have 00:04:04

strong form of nature so people have 00:04:07

strong form of nature so people have always tended to consider atoms as balls 00:04:07

always tended to consider atoms as balls 00:04:09

always tended to consider atoms as balls especially atoms of liquid there was a 00:04:09

especially atoms of liquid there was a 00:04:14

especially atoms of liquid there was a notion you see that the atoms of the 00:04:14

notion you see that the atoms of the 00:04:16

notion you see that the atoms of the element of Earth for cubes because cubes 00:04:16

element of Earth for cubes because cubes 00:04:20

element of Earth for cubes because cubes all sit together rather firmly liquid 00:04:20

all sit together rather firmly liquid 00:04:23

all sit together rather firmly liquid which when you put up good blue 00:04:23

which when you put up good blue 00:04:25

which when you put up good blue that was balls fire was made of them if 00:04:25

that was balls fire was made of them if 00:04:31

that was balls fire was made of them if I remember right little pyramids yeah I 00:04:31

I remember right little pyramids yeah I 00:04:35

I remember right little pyramids yeah I can't remember what air was made of and 00:04:35

can't remember what air was made of and 00:04:39

can't remember what air was made of and what their atoms were shaped like maybe 00:04:39

what their atoms were shaped like maybe 00:04:42

what their atoms were shaped like maybe sausages or something like that 00:04:42

sausages or something like that 00:04:44

sausages or something like that cuz the air is pretty difficult to get 00:04:44

cuz the air is pretty difficult to get 00:04:47

cuz the air is pretty difficult to get out to but they had some ideas but 00:04:47

out to but they had some ideas but 00:04:50

out to but they had some ideas but fundamentally what has influenced what 00:04:50

fundamentally what has influenced what 00:04:52

fundamentally what has influenced what Western thought and still influences 00:04:52

Western thought and still influences 00:04:54

Western thought and still influences Western thought is the idea of an atom 00:04:54

Western thought is the idea of an atom 00:04:56

Western thought is the idea of an atom of some sort of fundamental little 00:04:56

of some sort of fundamental little 00:04:58

of some sort of fundamental little planetary system and so these things 00:04:58

planetary system and so these things 00:05:02

planetary system and so these things come into relationship with each other 00:05:02

come into relationship with each other 00:05:04

come into relationship with each other and they bang each other around as in 00:05:04

and they bang each other around as in 00:05:07

and they bang each other around as in the game of billiards and so if we are 00:05:07

the game of billiards and so if we are 00:05:10

the game of billiards and so if we are to understand the world profoundly we 00:05:10

to understand the world profoundly we 00:05:13

to understand the world profoundly we have to find out what are the laws 00:05:13

have to find out what are the laws 00:05:17

have to find out what are the laws governing the relationship of the atoms 00:05:17

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now you must understand first of all a 00:05:21

now you must understand first of all a 00:05:26

now you must understand first of all a principle about what are called laws of 00:05:26

principle about what are called laws of 00:05:28

principle about what are called laws of nature we inherit the idea of laws of 00:05:28

nature we inherit the idea of laws of 00:05:35

nature we inherit the idea of laws of nature from our theology and our 00:05:35

nature from our theology and our 00:05:40

nature from our theology and our theology that we've grown up with is in 00:05:40

theology that we've grown up with is in 00:05:43

theology that we've grown up with is in certain ways peculiarly different from 00:05:43

certain ways peculiarly different from 00:05:46

certain ways peculiarly different from the theologies of oriental peoples 00:05:46

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Jewish theology and Christian theology 00:05:50

Jewish theology and Christian theology 00:05:53

Jewish theology and Christian theology which have entered very profoundly into 00:05:53

which have entered very profoundly into 00:05:56

which have entered very profoundly into the common sense of the average person 00:05:56

the common sense of the average person 00:06:00

the common sense of the average person have an image of the world which is 00:06:00

have an image of the world which is 00:06:03

have an image of the world which is quite basically political and will go 00:06:03

quite basically political and will go 00:06:07

quite basically political and will go further than that and say it's monarchic 00:06:07

further than that and say it's monarchic 00:06:09

further than that and say it's monarchic or based on the idea that the world is a 00:06:09

or based on the idea that the world is a 00:06:14

or based on the idea that the world is a construct evoked out of nothingness by 00:06:14

construct evoked out of nothingness by 00:06:22

construct evoked out of nothingness by the commandment of a celestial king now 00:06:23

the commandment of a celestial king now 00:06:28

the commandment of a celestial king now there may be Jews in this room who are 00:06:28

there may be Jews in this room who are 00:06:30

there may be Jews in this room who are practising and devout Jews and there may 00:06:30

practising and devout Jews and there may 00:06:32

practising and devout Jews and there may be Christians in this room who are 00:06:32

be Christians in this room who are 00:06:34

be Christians in this room who are practicing and devout Christians and I 00:06:34

practicing and devout Christians and I 00:06:36

practicing and devout Christians and I don't want to offend you by any image 00:06:36

don't want to offend you by any image 00:06:38

don't want to offend you by any image that I choose or remarks that I may make 00:06:38

that I choose or remarks that I may make 00:06:41

that I choose or remarks that I may make about this imagery because I don't 00:06:41

about this imagery because I don't 00:06:44

about this imagery because I don't suppose that anybody has come to this 00:06:44

suppose that anybody has come to this 00:06:46

suppose that anybody has come to this Roman to this particular place who is 00:06:46

Roman to this particular place who is 00:06:48

Roman to this particular place who is either a practicing or Christian Jew who 00:06:48

either a practicing or Christian Jew who 00:06:51

either a practicing or Christian Jew who has what I would call a naive idea of 00:06:51

has what I would call a naive idea of 00:06:56

has what I would call a naive idea of God but the funny thing is about our 00:06:56

God but the funny thing is about our 00:07:03

God but the funny thing is about our ideas of God is that our symbols the 00:07:03

ideas of God is that our symbols the 00:07:07

ideas of God is that our symbols the images the mythological forms which we 00:07:07

images the mythological forms which we 00:07:11

images the mythological forms which we use to describe God have an extremely 00:07:11

use to describe God have an extremely 00:07:14

use to describe God have an extremely powerful influence on our feelings and 00:07:14

powerful influence on our feelings and 00:07:17

powerful influence on our feelings and on the way we behave after all I was a 00:07:17

on the way we behave after all I was a 00:07:24

on the way we behave after all I was a member of the Church of England when I 00:07:24

member of the Church of England when I 00:07:26

member of the Church of England when I was a small boy and that had a very 00:07:26

was a small boy and that had a very 00:07:29

was a small boy and that had a very powerful effect on me and in the Church 00:07:29

powerful effect on me and in the Church 00:07:34

powerful effect on me and in the Church of England it's quite obvious from an 00:07:34

of England it's quite obvious from an 00:07:37

of England it's quite obvious from an emotional point of view as distinct from 00:07:37

emotional point of view as distinct from 00:07:39

emotional point of view as distinct from the very intellectual point of view that 00:07:39

the very intellectual point of view that 00:07:41

the very intellectual point of view that God stands behind the King of England 00:07:41

God stands behind the King of England 00:07:45

God stands behind the King of England and the King of England and the 00:07:45

and the King of England and the 00:07:48

and the King of England and the Archbishop of Canterbury and the whole 00:07:48

Archbishop of Canterbury and the whole 00:07:51

Archbishop of Canterbury and the whole hierarchy of lords and ladies and 00:07:51

hierarchy of lords and ladies and 00:07:54

hierarchy of lords and ladies and noblemen and officials who descend from 00:07:54

noblemen and officials who descend from 00:07:56

noblemen and officials who descend from this point are somehow involved at any 00:07:56

this point are somehow involved at any 00:07:59

this point are somehow involved at any rate this is perfectly clear to a small 00:07:59

rate this is perfectly clear to a small 00:08:01

rate this is perfectly clear to a small boy are somehow involved with the 00:08:01

boy are somehow involved with the 00:08:03

boy are somehow involved with the hierarchy of heaven because that morning 00:08:03

hierarchy of heaven because that morning 00:08:07

hierarchy of heaven because that morning prayer to which we went every Sunday the 00:08:07

prayer to which we went every Sunday the 00:08:10

prayer to which we went every Sunday the minister would pray a prayer which began 00:08:10

minister would pray a prayer which began 00:08:13

minister would pray a prayer which began our almighty and for all Almighty father 00:08:13

our almighty and for all Almighty father 00:08:17

our almighty and for all Almighty father high and mighty King of Kings Lord of 00:08:17

high and mighty King of Kings Lord of 00:08:21

high and mighty King of Kings Lord of lords the only ruler of princes who dust 00:08:21

lords the only ruler of princes who dust 00:08:23

lords the only ruler of princes who dust from thy throne they hold all the 00:08:23

from thy throne they hold all the 00:08:25

from thy throne they hold all the dwellers upon earth most heartily we 00:08:25

dwellers upon earth most heartily we 00:08:28

dwellers upon earth most heartily we beseech thee with thy favour to behold 00:08:28

beseech thee with thy favour to behold 00:08:30

beseech thee with thy favour to behold our most gracious sovereign Lord King 00:08:30

our most gracious sovereign Lord King 00:08:33

our most gracious sovereign Lord King George etc and so this was a very 00:08:33

George etc and so this was a very 00:08:38

George etc and so this was a very courtly procedure at which the clergyman 00:08:38

courtly procedure at which the clergyman 00:08:41

courtly procedure at which the clergyman dressed in his proper robes proceeded to 00:08:41

dressed in his proper robes proceeded to 00:08:44

dressed in his proper robes proceeded to the altar which is a kind of earthly 00:08:44

the altar which is a kind of earthly 00:08:46

the altar which is a kind of earthly symbol of the throne of heaven made new 00:08:46

symbol of the throne of heaven made new 00:08:48

symbol of the throne of heaven made new obeisance and present in this potato 00:08:48

obeisance and present in this potato 00:08:51

obeisance and present in this potato with all proper humility now these are 00:08:51

with all proper humility now these are 00:08:57

with all proper humility now these are things that were that if you're brought 00:08:57

things that were that if you're brought 00:08:59

things that were that if you're brought up in that environment you take for 00:08:59

up in that environment you take for 00:09:01

up in that environment you take for granted that seems to be the natural 00:09:01

granted that seems to be the natural 00:09:04

granted that seems to be the natural attitude to God but imagine someone 00:09:04

attitude to God but imagine someone 00:09:07

attitude to God but imagine someone coming in from a culture where God is 00:09:07

coming in from a culture where God is 00:09:09

coming in from a culture where God is not conceived in the image of kingship 00:09:09

not conceived in the image of kingship 00:09:11

not conceived in the image of kingship how strange he would find this behavior 00:09:11

how strange he would find this behavior 00:09:15

how strange he would find this behavior there's almost bowing and scraping 00:09:15

there's almost bowing and scraping 00:09:17

there's almost bowing and scraping because you know very well that places 00:09:17

because you know very well that places 00:09:20

because you know very well that places where they bow and scrape and weather 00:09:20

where they bow and scrape and weather 00:09:22

where they bow and scrape and weather are Thrones our places of terror because 00:09:22

are Thrones our places of terror because 00:09:27

are Thrones our places of terror because anybody who rules by force his son must 00:09:27

anybody who rules by force his son must 00:09:32

anybody who rules by force his son must be basically terrified that's why he has 00:09:32

be basically terrified that's why he has 00:09:35

be basically terrified that's why he has to have all these protections why he has 00:09:35

to have all these protections why he has 00:09:38

to have all these protections why he has to be addressed in the right form of 00:09:38

to be addressed in the right form of 00:09:39

to be addressed in the right form of language so you go into a course today 00:09:39

language so you go into a course today 00:09:42

language so you go into a course today an ordinary US law court there is a very 00:09:42

an ordinary US law court there is a very 00:09:48

an ordinary US law court there is a very strict etiquette and if you start 00:09:48

strict etiquette and if you start 00:09:51

strict etiquette and if you start laughing the judge will bang the gavel 00:09:51

laughing the judge will bang the gavel 00:09:52

laughing the judge will bang the gavel and threaten contempt of court of all 00:09:53

and threaten contempt of court of all 00:09:55

and threaten contempt of court of all sorts of dire punishments because here 00:09:55

sorts of dire punishments because here 00:09:58

sorts of dire punishments because here everybody has to be serious it's like on 00:09:58

everybody has to be serious it's like on 00:10:00

everybody has to be serious it's like on the parade ground all those Marines 00:10:00

the parade ground all those Marines 00:10:03

the parade ground all those Marines lined up know and they salute the flag 00:10:03

lined up know and they salute the flag 00:10:06

lined up know and they salute the flag and I have to have a very grim 00:10:06

and I have to have a very grim 00:10:09

and I have to have a very grim expression on serious and so in the 00:10:09

expression on serious and so in the 00:10:17

expression on serious and so in the courts of Kings they have to be serious 00:10:17

courts of Kings they have to be serious 00:10:19

courts of Kings they have to be serious because Kings are afraid of laughter 00:10:19

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they're also afraid of being attacked 00:10:24

they're also afraid of being attacked 00:10:26

they're also afraid of being attacked suddenly so everybody has to kneel down 00:10:26

suddenly so everybody has to kneel down 00:10:30

suddenly so everybody has to kneel down because if you kneel down or prostrate 00:10:30

because if you kneel down or prostrate 00:10:32

because if you kneel down or prostrate yourself you're at a disadvantage 00:10:32

yourself you're at a disadvantage 00:10:36

yourself you're at a disadvantage and the King stands or sits at his 00:10:36

and the King stands or sits at his 00:10:38

and the King stands or sits at his throne with his bodyguards ranged on 00:10:38

throne with his bodyguards ranged on 00:10:40

throne with his bodyguards ranged on either side see like that we've already 00:10:40

either side see like that we've already 00:10:43

either side see like that we've already got the form of a church the bishop at 00:10:43

got the form of a church the bishop at 00:10:46

got the form of a church the bishop at his throne his attendant canons and 00:10:46

his throne his attendant canons and 00:10:48

his throne his attendant canons and clergy flanking him on either side and 00:10:48

clergy flanking him on either side and 00:10:51

clergy flanking him on either side and so certain great Catholic cathedrals are 00:10:51

so certain great Catholic cathedrals are 00:10:54

so certain great Catholic cathedrals are called 00:10:54

called 00:10:55

called the with you that they've described the 00:10:55

the with you that they've described the 00:10:57

the with you that they've described the word Basilica and Basilica from the 00:10:57

word Basilica and Basilica from the 00:11:00

word Basilica and Basilica from the Greek basileus or basileus is the king 00:11:00

Greek basileus or basileus is the king 00:11:04

Greek basileus or basileus is the king so the Basilica is the court of the king 00:11:04

so the Basilica is the court of the king 00:11:08

so the Basilica is the court of the king very titles of God in the Bible king of 00:11:08

very titles of God in the Bible king of 00:11:13

very titles of God in the Bible king of kings and Lord of lords are of course 00:11:13

kings and Lord of lords are of course 00:11:15

kings and Lord of lords are of course borrowed from the Persian emperors the 00:11:15

borrowed from the Persian emperors the 00:11:20

borrowed from the Persian emperors the Cyrus and to the Greek word kurios 00:11:20

Cyrus and to the Greek word kurios 00:11:24

Cyrus and to the Greek word kurios meaning Lord so the mass begins with the 00:11:24

meaning Lord so the mass begins with the 00:11:29

meaning Lord so the mass begins with the invocation QA Eleison lord have mercy 00:11:29

invocation QA Eleison lord have mercy 00:11:33

invocation QA Eleison lord have mercy upon us the titles are borrowed from the 00:11:33

upon us the titles are borrowed from the 00:11:37

upon us the titles are borrowed from the persian emperor and so the rights that 00:11:37

persian emperor and so the rights that 00:11:40

persian emperor and so the rights that have become associated with christian 00:11:40

have become associated with christian 00:11:42

have become associated with christian religion and to some extent the Jewish 00:11:42

religion and to some extent the Jewish 00:11:44

religion and to some extent the Jewish religion are reflections of those great 00:11:44

religion are reflections of those great 00:11:49

religion are reflections of those great autocratic monarchs of the ancient Near 00:11:49

autocratic monarchs of the ancient Near 00:11:51

autocratic monarchs of the ancient Near East 00:11:51

East 00:11:52

East thus irises of Persia the Pharaohs of 00:11:52

thus irises of Persia the Pharaohs of 00:11:54

thus irises of Persia the Pharaohs of Egypt and people like Hammurabi who were 00:11:54

Egypt and people like Hammurabi who were 00:11:58

Egypt and people like Hammurabi who were the great rowdy and monarchs the 00:11:58

the great rowdy and monarchs the 00:12:02

the great rowdy and monarchs the universe was conceived then as being 00:12:02

universe was conceived then as being 00:12:04

universe was conceived then as being ruled on a political pattern like that 00:12:04

ruled on a political pattern like that 00:12:09

ruled on a political pattern like that so that the Hammurabi in particular and 00:12:09

so that the Hammurabi in particular and 00:12:12

so that the Hammurabi in particular and Moses after him were great law givers 00:12:12

Moses after him were great law givers 00:12:16

Moses after him were great law givers they were the Wise Ones who laid down 00:12:16

they were the Wise Ones who laid down 00:12:19

they were the Wise Ones who laid down the rules they were the patriarchs who 00:12:19

the rules they were the patriarchs who 00:12:21

the rules they were the patriarchs who said now this is the way everybody's got 00:12:21

said now this is the way everybody's got 00:12:24

said now this is the way everybody's got to behave somebody's got to tell what 00:12:24

to behave somebody's got to tell what 00:12:26

to behave somebody's got to tell what the rules are and since you can't all 00:12:26

the rules are and since you can't all 00:12:27

the rules are and since you can't all agree among yourselves as to what the 00:12:27

agree among yourselves as to what the 00:12:29

agree among yourselves as to what the rules going to be I'm going to tell you 00:12:29

rules going to be I'm going to tell you 00:12:30

rules going to be I'm going to tell you what to do and since I'm the toughest 00:12:30

what to do and since I'm the toughest 00:12:33

what to do and since I'm the toughest guy around here and I got these brothers 00:12:33

guy around here and I got these brothers 00:12:35

guy around here and I got these brothers of mine who are pretty tough too we're 00:12:35

of mine who are pretty tough too we're 00:12:37

of mine who are pretty tough too we're gonna say this is the law see and you 00:12:37

gonna say this is the law see and you 00:12:39

gonna say this is the law see and you got obey so this is how we have got 00:12:39

got obey so this is how we have got 00:12:45

got obey so this is how we have got historically the idea of there being a 00:12:45

historically the idea of there being a 00:12:47

historically the idea of there being a law of nature 00:12:47

law of nature 00:12:49

law of nature that somebody told nature what to do 00:12:49

that somebody told nature what to do 00:12:52

that somebody told nature what to do somebody told for example a wonderful 00:12:53

somebody told for example a wonderful 00:12:57

somebody told for example a wonderful poem by father Feeny about bees God to 00:12:57

poem by father Feeny about bees God to 00:13:04

poem by father Feeny about bees God to some sticky stuff not yet alive in a 00:13:04

some sticky stuff not yet alive in a 00:13:06

some sticky stuff not yet alive in a hive said come hum he might be in buzzes 00:13:06

hive said come hum he might be in buzzes 00:13:10

hive said come hum he might be in buzzes I did and sure enough it was and it did 00:13:10

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see and at the beginning let there be 00:13:14

see and at the beginning let there be 00:13:17

see and at the beginning let there be light a commandment 00:13:17

light a commandment 00:13:21

light a commandment so commandment is the fundamental idea 00:13:21

so commandment is the fundamental idea 00:13:23

so commandment is the fundamental idea so the quest of the law of nature is the 00:13:23

so the quest of the law of nature is the 00:13:27

so the quest of the law of nature is the quest for the true understanding of the 00:13:27

quest for the true understanding of the 00:13:30

quest for the true understanding of the word of God for by the word of the Lord 00:13:30

word of God for by the word of the Lord 00:13:33

word of God for by the word of the Lord where the heavens made and all the hosts 00:13:33

where the heavens made and all the hosts 00:13:35

where the heavens made and all the hosts of them by the breath of his mouth in 00:13:35

of them by the breath of his mouth in 00:13:38

of them by the breath of his mouth in the beginning was the word and the Word 00:13:38

the beginning was the word and the Word 00:13:40

the beginning was the word and the Word was with God and the Word was God 00:13:40

was with God and the Word was God 00:13:42

was with God and the Word was God what is that word if we could find out 00:13:42

what is that word if we could find out 00:13:46

what is that word if we could find out the Word of God here is the idea we 00:13:46

the Word of God here is the idea we 00:13:49

the Word of God here is the idea we could perform incredible magic that's 00:13:49

could perform incredible magic that's 00:13:54

could perform incredible magic that's why for example the name of God in the 00:13:54

why for example the name of God in the 00:13:57

why for example the name of God in the Bible is not to be uttered except once 00:13:57

Bible is not to be uttered except once 00:14:00

Bible is not to be uttered except once by the high priest in the holy of holies 00:14:00

by the high priest in the holy of holies 00:14:03

by the high priest in the holy of holies once a year otherwise that name yad hey 00:14:03

once a year otherwise that name yad hey 00:14:07

once a year otherwise that name yad hey VAR a in hebrew we don't really know how 00:14:07

VAR a in hebrew we don't really know how 00:14:09

VAR a in hebrew we don't really know how it was pronounced and jehovah mixes up 00:14:09

it was pronounced and jehovah mixes up 00:14:12

it was pronounced and jehovah mixes up those consonants with the vowels of 00:14:12

those consonants with the vowels of 00:14:14

those consonants with the vowels of Adonai and then it's all mixed up in 00:14:14

Adonai and then it's all mixed up in 00:14:22

Adonai and then it's all mixed up in translation but anyway that if Jehovah 00:14:22

translation but anyway that if Jehovah 00:14:25

translation but anyway that if Jehovah is a polite way of saying what can't be 00:14:25

is a polite way of saying what can't be 00:14:27

is a polite way of saying what can't be said because if you know the word you 00:14:27

said because if you know the word you 00:14:32

said because if you know the word you know the name of God you have power you 00:14:32

know the name of God you have power you 00:14:37

know the name of God you have power you have the power of God and so all ancient 00:14:37

have the power of God and so all ancient 00:14:41

have the power of God and so all ancient ideas of magic were based on knowing the 00:14:41

ideas of magic were based on knowing the 00:14:45

ideas of magic were based on knowing the names of God it is said that there are 00:14:45

names of God it is said that there are 00:14:47

names of God it is said that there are 100 names of God and 99 are revealed to 00:14:47

100 names of God and 99 are revealed to 00:14:51

100 names of God and 99 are revealed to us and the camel knows the hundreds name 00:14:51

us and the camel knows the hundreds name 00:14:53

us and the camel knows the hundreds name which is why he looks so snooty 00:14:53

which is why he looks so snooty 00:14:56

which is why he looks so snooty [Laughter] 00:14:56

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but so also a person in what we now call 00:15:02

but so also a person in what we now call 00:15:07

but so also a person in what we now call primitive orders of society are loath to 00:15:07

primitive orders of society are loath to 00:15:10

primitive orders of society are loath to reveal their names because if I know 00:15:10

reveal their names because if I know 00:15:13

reveal their names because if I know your true name I can utter it and have 00:15:13

your true name I can utter it and have 00:15:17

your true name I can utter it and have power and power over you now you say 00:15:17

power and power over you now you say 00:15:21

power and power over you now you say well that seems a very naive idea but it 00:15:21

well that seems a very naive idea but it 00:15:24

well that seems a very naive idea but it is exactly through the knowledge of 00:15:24

is exactly through the knowledge of 00:15:27

is exactly through the knowledge of names that we have Western science and 00:15:27

names that we have Western science and 00:15:31

names that we have Western science and it that is magic that is through trying 00:15:31

it that is magic that is through trying 00:15:36

it that is magic that is through trying to understand the laws of nature so that 00:15:36

to understand the laws of nature so that 00:15:40

to understand the laws of nature so that if you could understand the word 00:15:40

if you could understand the word 00:15:42

if you could understand the word underneath all the phenomena you could 00:15:42

underneath all the phenomena you could 00:15:44

underneath all the phenomena you could change the phenomena and then create 00:15:44

change the phenomena and then create 00:15:47

change the phenomena and then create magic only this that many scientists 00:15:47

magic only this that many scientists 00:15:52

magic only this that many scientists have got rather sophisticated and have 00:15:52

have got rather sophisticated and have 00:15:55

have got rather sophisticated and have realized that the word comes later than 00:15:55

realized that the word comes later than 00:15:58

realized that the word comes later than the event that in the beginning wasn't 00:15:58

the event that in the beginning wasn't 00:16:03

the event that in the beginning wasn't the word of course if you want to make 00:16:03

the word of course if you want to make 00:16:09

the word of course if you want to make new sense out of the phrase in the 00:16:09

new sense out of the phrase in the 00:16:11

new sense out of the phrase in the beginning was the word you have to go to 00:16:11

beginning was the word you have to go to 00:16:12

beginning was the word you have to go to Hinduism where they have the idea that 00:16:12

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vaak VA see in Sanskrit or speech is the 00:16:18

vaak VA see in Sanskrit or speech is the 00:16:25

vaak VA see in Sanskrit or speech is the basis of creation but by this they 00:16:25

basis of creation but by this they 00:16:28

basis of creation but by this they fundamentally mean vibration as sound 00:16:28

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they say that is you see if you listen 00:16:44

they say that is you see if you listen 00:16:47

they say that is you see if you listen to sound and go right down into it 00:16:47

to sound and go right down into it 00:16:49

to sound and go right down into it fundamentally get what sound is all 00:16:49

fundamentally get what sound is all 00:16:52

fundamentally get what sound is all about you understand the whole mystery 00:16:52

about you understand the whole mystery 00:16:53

about you understand the whole mystery of things because the whole mystery of 00:16:53

of things because the whole mystery of 00:16:56

of things because the whole mystery of things is vibrating energy on earth 00:16:56

things is vibrating energy on earth 00:16:59

things is vibrating energy on earth simple as that life and death life is on 00:16:59

simple as that life and death life is on 00:17:02

simple as that life and death life is on that is off after after long have to 00:17:02

that is off after after long have to 00:17:05

that is off after after long have to have on a bath 00:17:05

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it's quite a relief but they have they 00:17:08

it's quite a relief but they have they 00:17:13

it's quite a relief but they have they say that's the beginning now but they 00:17:13

say that's the beginning now but they 00:17:15

say that's the beginning now but they also say in another sense on another 00:17:15

also say in another sense on another 00:17:19

also say in another sense on another level that the roots of Sanskrit say the 00:17:19

level that the roots of Sanskrit say the 00:17:24

level that the roots of Sanskrit say the the root form say the word Buddha comes 00:17:24

the root form say the word Buddha comes 00:17:29

the root form say the word Buddha comes from the root form but which means to 00:17:29

from the root form but which means to 00:17:32

from the root form but which means to know or to be awake bhava which means 00:17:32

know or to be awake bhava which means 00:17:37

know or to be awake bhava which means becoming comes from the root booth which 00:17:37

becoming comes from the root booth which 00:17:41

becoming comes from the root booth which means to grow so on Kurama doing comes 00:17:41

means to grow so on Kurama doing comes 00:17:47

means to grow so on Kurama doing comes from the root to tree to act so they say 00:17:47

from the root to tree to act so they say 00:17:53

from the root to tree to act so they say though that the roots of Sanskrit are 00:17:53

though that the roots of Sanskrit are 00:17:55

though that the roots of Sanskrit are not simply the roots of a language 00:17:55

not simply the roots of a language 00:17:57

not simply the roots of a language they're the roots of life because in 00:17:57

they're the roots of life because in 00:18:01

they're the roots of life because in another sense all together you see you 00:18:01

another sense all together you see you 00:18:05

another sense all together you see you create the world by the word 00:18:05

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and this is something that we're not 00:18:13

and this is something that we're not 00:18:15

and this is something that we're not very conscious of it's the way you think 00:18:15

very conscious of it's the way you think 00:18:21

very conscious of it's the way you think that determines your basic reactions to 00:18:21

that determines your basic reactions to 00:18:25

that determines your basic reactions to what happens in the words of Shakespeare 00:18:25

what happens in the words of Shakespeare 00:18:28

what happens in the words of Shakespeare there is nothing either good or ill but 00:18:28

there is nothing either good or ill but 00:18:31

there is nothing either good or ill but thinking makes it so 00:18:31

thinking makes it so 00:18:33

thinking makes it so thinking is talking to yourself inside 00:18:33

thinking is talking to yourself inside 00:18:35

thinking is talking to yourself inside your head and we through this build up 00:18:35

your head and we through this build up 00:18:42

your head and we through this build up all sorts of weird notions we say for 00:18:42

all sorts of weird notions we say for 00:18:46

all sorts of weird notions we say for example well one day you'll have to die 00:18:46

example well one day you'll have to die 00:18:52

example well one day you'll have to die have to what's in them what's what's the 00:18:52

have to what's in them what's what's the 00:18:57

have to what's in them what's what's the cell what's the emotional content of 00:18:57

cell what's the emotional content of 00:18:58

cell what's the emotional content of saying you'll have to die it means it's 00:18:58

saying you'll have to die it means it's 00:19:02

saying you'll have to die it means it's going to be something imposed upon you 00:19:02

going to be something imposed upon you 00:19:04

going to be something imposed upon you against your will so it's put in this 00:19:04

against your will so it's put in this 00:19:07

against your will so it's put in this passive mode have to you'll be compelled 00:19:07

passive mode have to you'll be compelled 00:19:11

passive mode have to you'll be compelled to die but I can't be compelled to die 00:19:11

to die but I can't be compelled to die 00:19:14

to die but I can't be compelled to die unless I'm fighting it if I supposing I 00:19:14

unless I'm fighting it if I supposing I 00:19:20

unless I'm fighting it if I supposing I want to die closing I commit suicide or 00:19:20

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supposing we look at it all in another 00:19:25

supposing we look at it all in another 00:19:27

supposing we look at it all in another way and say when I get a disease and die 00:19:27

way and say when I get a disease and die 00:19:29

way and say when I get a disease and die as a result of it getting a disease is 00:19:30

as a result of it getting a disease is 00:19:32

as a result of it getting a disease is something I do just as much as walk 00:19:32

something I do just as much as walk 00:19:35

something I do just as much as walk taking a walk only we've got our 00:19:35

taking a walk only we've got our 00:19:39

taking a walk only we've got our thoughts arranged so that we say you 00:19:39

thoughts arranged so that we say you 00:19:41

thoughts arranged so that we say you ought not to get a disease even if it's 00:19:41

ought not to get a disease even if it's 00:19:44

ought not to get a disease even if it's just plain old age somehow you ought not 00:19:44

just plain old age somehow you ought not 00:19:47

just plain old age somehow you ought not to do that you ought to go on and 00:19:47

to do that you ought to go on and 00:19:50

to do that you ought to go on and therefore you you can't say when death 00:19:50

therefore you you can't say when death 00:19:55

therefore you you can't say when death comes about where to put it in the words 00:19:55

comes about where to put it in the words 00:19:59

comes about where to put it in the words of Robert de Stevens and I laid me down 00:19:59

of Robert de Stevens and I laid me down 00:20:01

of Robert de Stevens and I laid me down with a will because we've got this 00:20:01

with a will because we've got this 00:20:05

with a will because we've got this hang-up about life being divided into 00:20:05

hang-up about life being divided into 00:20:07

hang-up about life being divided into two parts things that we do on the one 00:20:07

two parts things that we do on the one 00:20:11

two parts things that we do on the one hand and things that happen to us on the 00:20:11

hand and things that happen to us on the 00:20:13

hand and things that happen to us on the other and Buddhists say what happens to 00:20:13

other and Buddhists say what happens to 00:20:19

other and Buddhists say what happens to you is your karma 00:20:19

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and people don't readily understand that 00:20:23

and people don't readily understand that 00:20:26

and people don't readily understand that they think my Karma uh I have something 00:20:26

they think my Karma uh I have something 00:20:29

they think my Karma uh I have something awful happened to me because of 00:20:29

awful happened to me because of 00:20:30

awful happened to me because of something bad I did in my last life and 00:20:30

something bad I did in my last life and 00:20:34

something bad I did in my last life and therefore I've got bad karma karma 00:20:34

therefore I've got bad karma karma 00:20:40

therefore I've got bad karma karma simply means you're doing your action so 00:20:40

simply means you're doing your action so 00:20:44

simply means you're doing your action so that when something that happens to me 00:20:44

that when something that happens to me 00:20:46

that when something that happens to me is called my Karma it means that it's 00:20:46

is called my Karma it means that it's 00:20:50

is called my Karma it means that it's your own doing and if you recognize that 00:20:50

your own doing and if you recognize that 00:20:55

your own doing and if you recognize that it's your own doing it's never bad karma 00:20:55

it's your own doing it's never bad karma 00:20:58

it's your own doing it's never bad karma it's only bad karma if you refuse to 00:20:58

it's only bad karma if you refuse to 00:21:01

it's only bad karma if you refuse to admit that it's your own doing and 00:21:01

admit that it's your own doing and 00:21:03

admit that it's your own doing and merely blame someone or something else 00:21:03

merely blame someone or something else 00:21:05

merely blame someone or something else that it's something that happened to you 00:21:05

that it's something that happened to you 00:21:08

that it's something that happened to you now I've digressed a little because what 00:21:08

now I've digressed a little because what 00:21:11

now I've digressed a little because what I was getting at was the meaning of a 00:21:11

I was getting at was the meaning of a 00:21:13

I was getting at was the meaning of a law of nature 00:21:13

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laws of nature were taken over the idea 00:21:20

laws of nature were taken over the idea 00:21:27

laws of nature were taken over the idea of the law of nature was taken over by 00:21:27

of the law of nature was taken over by 00:21:30

of the law of nature was taken over by Western science from this ancient 00:21:30

Western science from this ancient 00:21:34

Western science from this ancient magical notion of the Word of God the 00:21:34

magical notion of the Word of God the 00:21:39

magical notion of the Word of God the commandment of God at being the 00:21:39

commandment of God at being the 00:21:41

commandment of God at being the foundation for everything that happens 00:21:41

foundation for everything that happens 00:21:43

foundation for everything that happens in the world but now it today in western 00:21:43

in the world but now it today in western 00:21:48

in the world but now it today in western twentieth century science there is a 00:21:48

twentieth century science there is a 00:21:51

twentieth century science there is a entirely new idea of the law of nature 00:21:51

entirely new idea of the law of nature 00:21:56

entirely new idea of the law of nature the laws of nature are not things that 00:21:56

the laws of nature are not things that 00:21:59

the laws of nature are not things that exist in any real sense which phenomena 00:21:59

exist in any real sense which phenomena 00:22:03

exist in any real sense which phenomena like the motion of stars or the behavior 00:22:03

like the motion of stars or the behavior 00:22:07

like the motion of stars or the behavior of animals and rocks they're not 00:22:07

of animals and rocks they're not 00:22:10

of animals and rocks they're not phenomena which these things obey the 00:22:10

phenomena which these things obey the 00:22:16

phenomena which these things obey the universe is doing its stuff but because 00:22:16

universe is doing its stuff but because 00:22:22

universe is doing its stuff but because we have a certain kind of structure and 00:22:22

we have a certain kind of structure and 00:22:29

we have a certain kind of structure and brain we want to make sense of it and 00:22:29

brain we want to make sense of it and 00:22:35

brain we want to make sense of it and therefore we find various ways of 00:22:35

therefore we find various ways of 00:22:39

therefore we find various ways of understanding the world by the principle 00:22:39

understanding the world by the principle 00:22:46

understanding the world by the principle of regularity and what's that let's take 00:22:46

of regularity and what's that let's take 00:22:51

of regularity and what's that let's take a clock a clock ticks regularly but the 00:22:51

a clock a clock ticks regularly but the 00:22:58

a clock a clock ticks regularly but the world does not tick regularly in 00:22:58

world does not tick regularly in 00:23:02

world does not tick regularly in conveniently enough the Sun does not go 00:23:02

conveniently enough the Sun does not go 00:23:05

conveniently enough the Sun does not go does not have the earth go round it in a 00:23:05

does not have the earth go round it in a 00:23:09

does not have the earth go round it in a neat 360 days this is always irritated 00:23:09

neat 360 days this is always irritated 00:23:14

neat 360 days this is always irritated calendar makers how to make a rational 00:23:14

calendar makers how to make a rational 00:23:17

calendar makers how to make a rational calendar there is no solution because 00:23:17

calendar there is no solution because 00:23:21

calendar there is no solution because the rotations of the earth upon its own 00:23:21

the rotations of the earth upon its own 00:23:25

the rotations of the earth upon its own axis do not neatly synchronize with its 00:23:25

axis do not neatly synchronize with its 00:23:27

axis do not neatly synchronize with its rotation around the Sun there's always 00:23:27

rotation around the Sun there's always 00:23:30

rotation around the Sun there's always something a little odd about it so what 00:23:30

something a little odd about it so what 00:23:34

something a little odd about it so what we do is 00:23:34

we do is 00:23:34

we do is we've superimposed over this rather odd 00:23:34

we've superimposed over this rather odd 00:23:38

we've superimposed over this rather odd elliptical path the ideal figure of a 00:23:38

elliptical path the ideal figure of a 00:23:41

elliptical path the ideal figure of a circle with its 360 degrees now that is 00:23:41

circle with its 360 degrees now that is 00:23:47

circle with its 360 degrees now that is also like putting a ruler along a piece 00:23:47

also like putting a ruler along a piece 00:23:50

also like putting a ruler along a piece of wood and saying this piece of wood 00:23:50

of wood and saying this piece of wood 00:23:53

of wood and saying this piece of wood can be cut to twelve inches now there 00:23:53

can be cut to twelve inches now there 00:23:59

can be cut to twelve inches now there are no inches in the wood inches are a 00:23:59

are no inches in the wood inches are a 00:24:02

are no inches in the wood inches are a method a technique that human beings 00:24:02

method a technique that human beings 00:24:05

method a technique that human beings have invented for measuring things and 00:24:05

have invented for measuring things and 00:24:09

have invented for measuring things and so we can cut out of a piece of cloth or 00:24:09

so we can cut out of a piece of cloth or 00:24:14

so we can cut out of a piece of cloth or a clunk of a tree so many feet well 00:24:14

a clunk of a tree so many feet well 00:24:21

a clunk of a tree so many feet well originally it's simply comparing the 00:24:21

originally it's simply comparing the 00:24:24

originally it's simply comparing the trunk with us by putting our feet over 00:24:24

trunk with us by putting our feet over 00:24:27

trunk with us by putting our feet over it one after another saying it's so many 00:24:27

it one after another saying it's so many 00:24:29

it one after another saying it's so many feet long or so many spans when you 00:24:29

feet long or so many spans when you 00:24:32

feet long or so many spans when you stretch out the hand there's the 00:24:32

stretch out the hand there's the 00:24:33

stretch out the hand there's the fundamental idea of measurement and the 00:24:33

fundamental idea of measurement and the 00:24:35

fundamental idea of measurement and the inches of course one joined not choke on 00:24:35

inches of course one joined not choke on 00:24:39

inches of course one joined not choke on it and so the this comparison of man's 00:24:39

it and so the this comparison of man's 00:24:48

it and so the this comparison of man's body and its regular shape you see ten 00:24:48

body and its regular shape you see ten 00:24:52

body and its regular shape you see ten fingers on either side 10 I mean you 00:24:52

fingers on either side 10 I mean you 00:24:55

fingers on either side 10 I mean you know five fingers on either side makes 00:24:55

know five fingers on either side makes 00:24:56

know five fingers on either side makes ten five toes on the other side makes 00:24:56

ten five toes on the other side makes 00:24:58

ten five toes on the other side makes ten and so by stretching ourselves out 00:24:58

ten and so by stretching ourselves out 00:25:03

ten and so by stretching ourselves out as it were against nature we measured it 00:25:03

as it were against nature we measured it 00:25:07

as it were against nature we measured it and the idea of this of measurement is 00:25:07

and the idea of this of measurement is 00:25:12

and the idea of this of measurement is the same idea as the idea of the law of 00:25:12

the same idea as the idea of the law of 00:25:14

the same idea as the idea of the law of nature the law of nature is exactly the 00:25:14

nature the law of nature is exactly the 00:25:19

nature the law of nature is exactly the same kind of thing as a ruler or a 00:25:19

same kind of thing as a ruler or a 00:25:23

same kind of thing as a ruler or a hammer or a saw it is a way of thinking 00:25:23

hammer or a saw it is a way of thinking 00:25:29

hammer or a saw it is a way of thinking which enables us to control our 00:25:29

which enables us to control our 00:25:32

which enables us to control our environment by observing regularities 00:25:32

environment by observing regularities 00:25:39

environment by observing regularities and then by making a calculus which is a 00:25:40

and then by making a calculus which is a 00:25:44

and then by making a calculus which is a process really of betting 00:25:44

process really of betting 00:25:47

process really of betting will it be regular next time and the 00:25:47

will it be regular next time and the 00:25:52

will it be regular next time and the odds are that it may be if it's done it 00:25:52

odds are that it may be if it's done it 00:25:55

odds are that it may be if it's done it once this way it's likely to do it again 00:25:55

once this way it's likely to do it again 00:25:57

once this way it's likely to do it again that way so in this way you predict 00:25:57

that way so in this way you predict 00:26:00

that way so in this way you predict eclipses of the Sun you predict the 00:26:01

eclipses of the Sun you predict the 00:26:03

eclipses of the Sun you predict the phases of the Moon you measured them you 00:26:03

phases of the Moon you measured them you 00:26:06

phases of the Moon you measured them you counted how it went how often it did it 00:26:06

counted how it went how often it did it 00:26:08

counted how it went how often it did it like this often they did it like that 00:26:08

like this often they did it like that 00:26:10

like this often they did it like that and you say well it keeps on doing it 00:26:10

and you say well it keeps on doing it 00:26:12

and you say well it keeps on doing it and you think well this is fascinating 00:26:12

and you think well this is fascinating 00:26:16

and you think well this is fascinating it seems to obey me because now I can 00:26:16

it seems to obey me because now I can 00:26:19

it seems to obey me because now I can tell you any time it's going to come up 00:26:19

tell you any time it's going to come up 00:26:21

tell you any time it's going to come up and if the other people around haven't 00:26:21

and if the other people around haven't 00:26:24

and if the other people around haven't figured it out they think I'm magic 00:26:24

figured it out they think I'm magic 00:26:26

figured it out they think I'm magic because I'm going to say to them the 00:26:26

because I'm going to say to them the 00:26:28

because I'm going to say to them the moon is going to change if such and such 00:26:28

moon is going to change if such and such 00:26:30

moon is going to change if such and such a time so many days from now it's gonna 00:26:30

a time so many days from now it's gonna 00:26:32

a time so many days from now it's gonna have a different shape they say my god 00:26:32

have a different shape they say my god 00:26:34

have a different shape they say my god he was right and they think I'm making 00:26:34

he was right and they think I'm making 00:26:38

he was right and they think I'm making it happen because I can do that and so I 00:26:38

it happen because I can do that and so I 00:26:44

it happen because I can do that and so I get a rather privileged position because 00:26:44

get a rather privileged position because 00:26:48

get a rather privileged position because I could predict but that's the basic 00:26:48

I could predict but that's the basic 00:26:50

I could predict but that's the basic idea of the law of nature the law of 00:26:50

idea of the law of nature the law of 00:26:53

idea of the law of nature the law of nature is a human Network like the lines 00:26:53

nature is a human Network like the lines 00:27:05

nature is a human Network like the lines of celestial latitude and longitude they 00:27:05

of celestial latitude and longitude they 00:27:07

of celestial latitude and longitude they don't exist in the heavens but we 00:27:07

don't exist in the heavens but we 00:27:10

don't exist in the heavens but we project them on the sky in order to 00:27:10

project them on the sky in order to 00:27:12

project them on the sky in order to measure the positions of the stars 00:27:12

00:27:16

because the stars are scattered in a 00:27:16

because the stars are scattered in a 00:27:19

because the stars are scattered in a very confusing way and just try and 00:27:19

very confusing way and just try and 00:27:23

very confusing way and just try and remember that mess and figure it out 00:27:23

remember that mess and figure it out 00:27:26

remember that mess and figure it out though the clever ones you see just sit 00:27:26

though the clever ones you see just sit 00:27:28

though the clever ones you see just sit look at it through a network a spherical 00:27:28

look at it through a network a spherical 00:27:31

look at it through a network a spherical Network then you can number all the 00:27:31

Network then you can number all the 00:27:36

Network then you can number all the squares in the spherical Network the 00:27:36

squares in the spherical Network the 00:27:38

squares in the spherical Network the core in accordance with the principles 00:27:38

core in accordance with the principles 00:27:40

core in accordance with the principles of the circle the 360 degrees you've 00:27:40

of the circle the 360 degrees you've 00:27:42

of the circle the 360 degrees you've thrown the network on the sky it isn't 00:27:43

thrown the network on the sky it isn't 00:27:46

thrown the network on the sky it isn't really there see then to help you a 00:27:46

really there see then to help you a 00:27:49

really there see then to help you a little further pick out some of the big 00:27:49

little further pick out some of the big 00:27:54

little further pick out some of the big stars and see if they make a shape you 00:27:54

stars and see if they make a shape you 00:27:57

stars and see if they make a shape you know this is like a doing a Rorschach 00:27:57

know this is like a doing a Rorschach 00:27:58

know this is like a doing a Rorschach test 00:27:58

test 00:27:59

test did you see oh look there's one over 00:27:59

did you see oh look there's one over 00:28:01

did you see oh look there's one over there that looks like a Dipper or some 00:28:01

there that looks like a Dipper or some 00:28:04

there that looks like a Dipper or some people call it a plough and this one 00:28:04

people call it a plough and this one 00:28:08

people call it a plough and this one there that looks like a cross there's 00:28:08

there that looks like a cross there's 00:28:10

there that looks like a cross there's one there that by some extreme Wang Ling 00:28:10

one there that by some extreme Wang Ling 00:28:13

one there that by some extreme Wang Ling can be made to look like a virgin and 00:28:13

can be made to look like a virgin and 00:28:17

can be made to look like a virgin and all these lines that join the 00:28:17

all these lines that join the 00:28:19

all these lines that join the constellations together are our ways of 00:28:19

constellations together are our ways of 00:28:23

constellations together are our ways of projecting a pattern upon this great and 00:28:23

projecting a pattern upon this great and 00:28:27

projecting a pattern upon this great and glorious confusion so that we can 00:28:27

glorious confusion so that we can 00:28:30

glorious confusion so that we can remember it and chart it but obviously 00:28:30

remember it and chart it but obviously 00:28:34

remember it and chart it but obviously you can very well see that if you looked 00:28:34

you can very well see that if you looked 00:28:36

you can very well see that if you looked at the same pattern of stars from some 00:28:36

at the same pattern of stars from some 00:28:38

at the same pattern of stars from some completely different position in space 00:28:38

completely different position in space 00:28:40

completely different position in space all those constellations and their 00:28:40

all those constellations and their 00:28:42

all those constellations and their Arrangements would vanish you would have 00:28:42

Arrangements would vanish you would have 00:28:45

Arrangements would vanish you would have to invent a new one because there is 00:28:45

to invent a new one because there is 00:28:48

to invent a new one because there is nowhere where the stars really are it 00:28:48

nowhere where the stars really are it 00:28:51

nowhere where the stars really are it depends where you're looking from so we 00:28:51

depends where you're looking from so we 00:28:56

depends where you're looking from so we now then in this sense then man in 00:28:56

now then in this sense then man in 00:28:59

now then in this sense then man in nature with his extraordinary 00:28:59

nature with his extraordinary 00:29:01

nature with his extraordinary symmetrical brain and it's amazing 00:29:01

symmetrical brain and it's amazing 00:29:06

symmetrical brain and it's amazing complications figures it out and it's 00:29:06

complications figures it out and it's 00:29:11

complications figures it out and it's man who introduces the law into the 00:29:11

man who introduces the law into the 00:29:14

man who introduces the law into the world he invents it but in a way in 00:29:14

world he invents it but in a way in 00:29:22

world he invents it but in a way in venir a to invent is to discover but 00:29:22

venir a to invent is to discover but 00:29:30

venir a to invent is to discover but what we discover in a way is not 00:29:30

what we discover in a way is not 00:29:31

what we discover in a way is not something that's out there when we 00:29:31

something that's out there when we 00:29:35

something that's out there when we invent the laws of nature we are 00:29:35

invent the laws of nature we are 00:29:37

invent the laws of nature we are discovering something about ourselves 00:29:37

discovering something about ourselves 00:29:39

discovering something about ourselves and our own passion for prediction for 00:29:39

and our own passion for prediction for 00:29:45

and our own passion for prediction for regularity for keeping things under 00:29:45

regularity for keeping things under 00:29:47

regularity for keeping things under control therefore there has to be a law 00:29:47

00:29:55

so then going back right now to the 00:29:55

so then going back right now to the 00:29:57

so then going back right now to the beginning of what I started to say the 00:29:57

beginning of what I started to say the 00:30:04

beginning of what I started to say the question was then what is the law of 00:30:04

question was then what is the law of 00:30:07

question was then what is the law of relationship between the atoms between 00:30:07

relationship between the atoms between 00:30:12

relationship between the atoms between the fundamental building balls of which 00:30:12

the fundamental building balls of which 00:30:14

the fundamental building balls of which the world is composed well you watch the 00:30:14

the world is composed well you watch the 00:30:18

the world is composed well you watch the game of billiards and there's a cue and 00:30:18

game of billiards and there's a cue and 00:30:20

game of billiards and there's a cue and it hits that ball and then it moves over 00:30:20

it hits that ball and then it moves over 00:30:22

it hits that ball and then it moves over and it hits that one and then that hits 00:30:22

and it hits that one and then that hits 00:30:23

and it hits that one and then that hits that one and then that hits that one and 00:30:24

that one and then that hits that one and 00:30:26

that one and then that hits that one and so the final ball which moves into the 00:30:26

so the final ball which moves into the 00:30:29

so the final ball which moves into the pocket has its behavior explained 00:30:29

pocket has its behavior explained 00:30:33

pocket has its behavior explained through its contact with the other 00:30:33

through its contact with the other 00:30:36

through its contact with the other billiard balls in the final contact with 00:30:36

billiard balls in the final contact with 00:30:38

billiard balls in the final contact with a cue that's why it did it and so this 00:30:38

a cue that's why it did it and so this 00:30:45

a cue that's why it did it and so this view of the world as something that 00:30:45

view of the world as something that 00:30:48

view of the world as something that happens by the mechanical processes of 00:30:48

happens by the mechanical processes of 00:30:52

happens by the mechanical processes of the law of cause and effect is one that 00:30:52

the law of cause and effect is one that 00:30:56

the law of cause and effect is one that is really basic to most people's common 00:30:56

is really basic to most people's common 00:30:58

is really basic to most people's common sense today to most educated people they 00:30:58

sense today to most educated people they 00:31:05

sense today to most educated people they would say it's very difficult to figure 00:31:05

would say it's very difficult to figure 00:31:07

would say it's very difficult to figure it all out because the whole thing is so 00:31:07

it all out because the whole thing is so 00:31:09

it all out because the whole thing is so complicated but if you could know all 00:31:09

complicated but if you could know all 00:31:13

complicated but if you could know all the details involved in say the behavior 00:31:13

the details involved in say the behavior 00:31:17

the details involved in say the behavior or a single act of a human being you 00:31:17

or a single act of a human being you 00:31:20

or a single act of a human being you would find that it was the ineluctable 00:31:20

would find that it was the ineluctable 00:31:22

would find that it was the ineluctable result of a series of bouncing balls 00:31:22

result of a series of bouncing balls 00:31:27

result of a series of bouncing balls against each other fundamental atoms 00:31:27

against each other fundamental atoms 00:31:30

against each other fundamental atoms that predisposed the great final event 00:31:30

that predisposed the great final event 00:31:33

that predisposed the great final event to be just like that so that theory of 00:31:33

to be just like that so that theory of 00:31:40

to be just like that so that theory of the relationship between the atoms is 00:31:40

the relationship between the atoms is 00:31:43

the relationship between the atoms is called in technical language catenary CA 00:31:43

called in technical language catenary CA 00:31:48

called in technical language catenary CA te n ary catenary a catenary effect or a 00:31:48

te n ary catenary a catenary effect or a 00:31:56

te n ary catenary a catenary effect or a relationship between events is like for 00:31:56

relationship between events is like for 00:31:59

relationship between events is like for example - we use another illustration 00:31:59

example - we use another illustration 00:32:01

example - we use another illustration where you stand a row of bricks up and 00:32:01

where you stand a row of bricks up and 00:32:04

where you stand a row of bricks up and end up no and you knock over the first 00:32:04

end up no and you knock over the first 00:32:08

end up no and you knock over the first one and they 00:32:08

one and they 00:32:08

one and they katakana katakana and fall down that is 00:32:08

katakana katakana and fall down that is 00:32:11

katakana katakana and fall down that is a catenary sequence but it becomes 00:32:11

a catenary sequence but it becomes 00:32:16

a catenary sequence but it becomes increasingly obvious today to the 00:32:16

increasingly obvious today to the 00:32:19

increasingly obvious today to the physicist into the biologist that that 00:32:19

physicist into the biologist that that 00:32:21

physicist into the biologist that that will not do as a sufficient description 00:32:21

will not do as a sufficient description 00:32:26

will not do as a sufficient description of how various events affect each other 00:32:26

of how various events affect each other 00:32:30

of how various events affect each other and so there's another type of causal 00:32:30

and so there's another type of causal 00:32:34

and so there's another type of causal relationship altogether which is called 00:32:34

relationship altogether which is called 00:32:37

relationship altogether which is called instead of catenary reticulate ret ICU 00:32:37

instead of catenary reticulate ret ICU 00:32:44

instead of catenary reticulate ret ICU la te reticulate from the latin rate a 00:32:44

la te reticulate from the latin rate a 00:32:48

la te reticulate from the latin rate a meaning in net-net relationship wherein 00:32:48

meaning in net-net relationship wherein 00:32:54

meaning in net-net relationship wherein in other words any given event is not 00:32:54

in other words any given event is not 00:32:59

in other words any given event is not simply ascribed to one or more previous 00:32:59

simply ascribed to one or more previous 00:33:03

simply ascribed to one or more previous events but that the relationship between 00:33:03

events but that the relationship between 00:33:09

events but that the relationship between the past and the present and between the 00:33:09

the past and the present and between the 00:33:12

the past and the present and between the present and the future is all to be 00:33:12

present and the future is all to be 00:33:18

present and the future is all to be taken into consideration in 00:33:18

taken into consideration in 00:33:20

taken into consideration in understanding any one event in other 00:33:20

understanding any one event in other 00:33:23

understanding any one event in other words let's take one event i drop a ball 00:33:23

words let's take one event i drop a ball 00:33:27

words let's take one event i drop a ball and it bounces that's let's say it's an 00:33:27

and it bounces that's let's say it's an 00:33:32

and it bounces that's let's say it's an event i don't know how many events it 00:33:32

event i don't know how many events it 00:33:34

event i don't know how many events it really is but we'll just say for the 00:33:34

really is but we'll just say for the 00:33:35

really is but we'll just say for the sake of argument that it's an event now 00:33:35

sake of argument that it's an event now 00:33:40

sake of argument that it's an event now is it enough in describing this event to 00:33:40

is it enough in describing this event to 00:33:44

is it enough in describing this event to say i let the ball go it obeyed the lord 00:33:44

say i let the ball go it obeyed the lord 00:33:47

say i let the ball go it obeyed the lord of glory and hit the floor but because 00:33:47

of glory and hit the floor but because 00:33:50

of glory and hit the floor but because it was made of rubber and had some air 00:33:50

it was made of rubber and had some air 00:33:52

it was made of rubber and had some air inside it it bounced and sort of 00:33:52

inside it it bounced and sort of 00:33:54

inside it it bounced and sort of slightly disobeyed gravity because it 00:33:54

slightly disobeyed gravity because it 00:33:56

slightly disobeyed gravity because it had an energy in it but that's not 00:33:56

had an energy in it but that's not 00:34:01

had an energy in it but that's not enough 00:34:01

00:34:06

because that the ball dropped that I let 00:34:06

because that the ball dropped that I let 00:34:14

because that the ball dropped that I let it go that it bounced depended not 00:34:14

it go that it bounced depended not 00:34:17

it go that it bounced depended not merely upon a historical sequence of 00:34:17

merely upon a historical sequence of 00:34:22

merely upon a historical sequence of events that you could lay out in a 00:34:22

events that you could lay out in a 00:34:24

events that you could lay out in a string along along a line of time it 00:34:24

string along along a line of time it 00:34:28

string along along a line of time it depends also upon a present context 00:34:28

depends also upon a present context 00:34:33

depends also upon a present context there must be a certain density of air 00:34:33

there must be a certain density of air 00:34:38

there must be a certain density of air all kinds of things have to coexist with 00:34:38

all kinds of things have to coexist with 00:34:41

all kinds of things have to coexist with this in order for me to be there to drop 00:34:41

this in order for me to be there to drop 00:34:44

this in order for me to be there to drop the ball at all much less manufacturable 00:34:44

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so that what happens must be considered 00:34:49

so that what happens must be considered 00:34:53

so that what happens must be considered not merely as a historical phenomenon 00:34:53

not merely as a historical phenomenon 00:34:57

not merely as a historical phenomenon but it must be seen in context context 00:34:57

but it must be seen in context context 00:35:03

but it must be seen in context context is terribly important because it isn't 00:35:03

is terribly important because it isn't 00:35:07

is terribly important because it isn't just when a thing happens that is 00:35:07

just when a thing happens that is 00:35:09

just when a thing happens that is important it's where it happens in what 00:35:09

important it's where it happens in what 00:35:14

important it's where it happens in what setting so that you could say that my 00:35:14

setting so that you could say that my 00:35:19

setting so that you could say that my blood in my veins is in a certain 00:35:19

blood in my veins is in a certain 00:35:23

blood in my veins is in a certain setting in a test-tube it's in a 00:35:23

setting in a test-tube it's in a 00:35:26

setting in a test-tube it's in a completely different setting and in a 00:35:26

completely different setting and in a 00:35:29

completely different setting and in a test-tube my blood is not behaving in 00:35:29

test-tube my blood is not behaving in 00:35:32

test-tube my blood is not behaving in the way it behaves in my veins therefore 00:35:32

the way it behaves in my veins therefore 00:35:34

the way it behaves in my veins therefore it's not the same thing so in an 00:35:34

it's not the same thing so in an 00:35:44

it's not the same thing so in an individual person in one setting will 00:35:44

individual person in one setting will 00:35:46

individual person in one setting will behave in one way in another setting in 00:35:46

behave in one way in another setting in 00:35:48

behave in one way in another setting in a completely different way I remember 00:35:48

a completely different way I remember 00:35:50

a completely different way I remember when I was a child I was one boy when I 00:35:50

when I was a child I was one boy when I 00:35:53

when I was a child I was one boy when I was at home with my parents when I went 00:35:53

was at home with my parents when I went 00:35:56

was at home with my parents when I went to visit my uncle and aunt I was someone 00:35:56

to visit my uncle and aunt I was someone 00:35:58

to visit my uncle and aunt I was someone different when I was with my peers I was 00:35:58

different when I was with my peers I was 00:36:01

different when I was with my peers I was someone quite different because I 00:36:01

someone quite different because I 00:36:04

someone quite different because I changed according to the setting and 00:36:04

changed according to the setting and 00:36:06

changed according to the setting and children are very well well aware of 00:36:06

children are very well well aware of 00:36:08

children are very well well aware of this it's only as we go on that we keep 00:36:08

this it's only as we go on that we keep 00:36:11

this it's only as we go on that we keep having it drummed into our heads that we 00:36:11

having it drummed into our heads that we 00:36:13

having it drummed into our heads that we ought to have a consistent character 00:36:13

ought to have a consistent character 00:36:15

ought to have a consistent character because we are influenced by novels well 00:36:15

because we are influenced by novels well 00:36:18

because we are influenced by novels well the characters are supposed to be 00:36:18

the characters are supposed to be 00:36:19

the characters are supposed to be consistent 00:36:19

consistent 00:36:20

consistent and so you ought to have a consistent 00:36:20

and so you ought to have a consistent 00:36:22

and so you ought to have a consistent character you ought to behave the same 00:36:22

character you ought to behave the same 00:36:24

character you ought to behave the same in all circumstances as towards all 00:36:24

in all circumstances as towards all 00:36:26

in all circumstances as towards all people that merely means you become 00:36:26

people that merely means you become 00:36:28

people that merely means you become inflexible so what things are therefore 00:36:28

inflexible so what things are therefore 00:36:35

inflexible so what things are therefore depend on the context in which they are 00:36:35

depend on the context in which they are 00:36:38

depend on the context in which they are found upon their network relationship to 00:36:38

found upon their network relationship to 00:36:45

found upon their network relationship to everything else that's going on and one 00:36:45

everything else that's going on and one 00:36:50

everything else that's going on and one of the reasons for this which is going 00:36:50

of the reasons for this which is going 00:36:52

of the reasons for this which is going to lead us to something more profound 00:36:52

to lead us to something more profound 00:36:54

to lead us to something more profound but much simpler is of course that the 00:36:54

but much simpler is of course that the 00:36:59

but much simpler is of course that the whole notion of a thin or of an event in 00:36:59

whole notion of a thin or of an event in 00:37:06

whole notion of a thin or of an event in nature and of course all relationships 00:37:06

nature and of course all relationships 00:37:09

nature and of course all relationships between different things and different 00:37:09

between different things and different 00:37:11

between different things and different events is a purely abstract idea that 00:37:11

events is a purely abstract idea that 00:37:16

events is a purely abstract idea that does not really fit the facts of nature 00:37:16

does not really fit the facts of nature 00:37:18

does not really fit the facts of nature at all in nature in what this physical 00:37:18

at all in nature in what this physical 00:37:23

at all in nature in what this physical world that you feel when you hold your 00:37:23

world that you feel when you hold your 00:37:26

world that you feel when you hold your head or hold somebody's hand or just 00:37:26

head or hold somebody's hand or just 00:37:30

head or hold somebody's hand or just breathe in that world there aren't any 00:37:30

breathe in that world there aren't any 00:37:33

breathe in that world there aren't any separate events none whatever 00:37:33

separate events none whatever 00:37:41

separate events none whatever sure there are all sorts of Wiggles 00:37:41

sure there are all sorts of Wiggles 00:37:44

sure there are all sorts of Wiggles around here all sorts of lines all sorts 00:37:44

around here all sorts of lines all sorts 00:37:46

around here all sorts of lines all sorts of colors all sorts of surfaces all 00:37:46

of colors all sorts of surfaces all 00:37:49

of colors all sorts of surfaces all sorts of forms but they're not separate 00:37:49

sorts of forms but they're not separate 00:37:55

sorts of forms but they're not separate because you see you can't separate an 00:37:55

because you see you can't separate an 00:37:58

because you see you can't separate an inside what you are inside your skin 00:37:58

inside what you are inside your skin 00:38:01

inside what you are inside your skin from the outside of the skin because you 00:38:01

from the outside of the skin because you 00:38:03

from the outside of the skin because you can see that once if they want anything 00:38:03

can see that once if they want anything 00:38:05

can see that once if they want anything outside your skin there'd be no inside 00:38:05

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it takes the outside and the inside 00:38:09

it takes the outside and the inside 00:38:11

it takes the outside and the inside working together to create this 00:38:11

working together to create this 00:38:14

working together to create this situation done in the simplest way the 00:38:14

situation done in the simplest way the 00:38:18

situation done in the simplest way the situation that I call my body wouldn't 00:38:18

situation that I call my body wouldn't 00:38:20

situation that I call my body wouldn't be operating unless it was there around 00:38:20

be operating unless it was there around 00:38:22

be operating unless it was there around here to breathe this this the physical 00:38:22

here to breathe this this the physical 00:38:27

here to breathe this this the physical phenomenon goes with the situation of 00:38:27

phenomenon goes with the situation of 00:38:30

phenomenon goes with the situation of there being air now our true 00:38:30

there being air now our true 00:38:33

there being air now our true about inside the air in a rather 00:38:33

about inside the air in a rather 00:38:35

about inside the air in a rather complicated way and other people 00:38:35

complicated way and other people 00:38:38

complicated way and other people watching say oh something going on over 00:38:38

watching say oh something going on over 00:38:40

watching say oh something going on over there 00:38:40

there 00:38:41

there no because the air you can't see and it 00:38:41

no because the air you can't see and it 00:38:43

no because the air you can't see and it remains rather constant except when 00:38:43

remains rather constant except when 00:38:45

remains rather constant except when there's a gale and so you don't pay much 00:38:45

there's a gale and so you don't pay much 00:38:48

there's a gale and so you don't pay much attention to it because it's always 00:38:48

attention to it because it's always 00:38:49

attention to it because it's always around what you pay attention to is what 00:38:49

around what you pay attention to is what 00:38:52

around what you pay attention to is what changes rather rapidly and you say well 00:38:52

changes rather rapidly and you say well 00:38:57

changes rather rapidly and you say well that's or that say hey you say to 00:38:57

that's or that say hey you say to 00:39:00

that's or that say hey you say to someone you see this change going on so 00:39:00

someone you see this change going on so 00:39:02

someone you see this change going on so I'm wiggling over there say what's that 00:39:02

I'm wiggling over there say what's that 00:39:05

I'm wiggling over there say what's that see I mean he knows what you mean by 00:39:05

see I mean he knows what you mean by 00:39:08

see I mean he knows what you mean by that that means something on the end of 00:39:08

that that means something on the end of 00:39:11

that that means something on the end of the finger point it's different it's 00:39:11

the finger point it's different it's 00:39:14

the finger point it's different it's peculiar 00:39:14

peculiar 00:39:15

peculiar see that's at that so from that comes 00:39:15

see that's at that so from that comes 00:39:19

see that's at that so from that comes the idea of an event or a thing that 00:39:19

the idea of an event or a thing that 00:39:22

the idea of an event or a thing that that but all these deaths that are 00:39:22

that but all these deaths that are 00:39:26

that but all these deaths that are happening aren't disconnected they go 00:39:26

happening aren't disconnected they go 00:39:30

happening aren't disconnected they go with each other just as I go with this 00:39:30

with each other just as I go with this 00:39:32

with each other just as I go with this surrounding air and just as this whole 00:39:32

surrounding air and just as this whole 00:39:35

surrounding air and just as this whole situation in which we are at this moment 00:39:35

situation in which we are at this moment 00:39:37

situation in which we are at this moment is it complicated going witness now here 00:39:37

is it complicated going witness now here 00:39:42

is it complicated going witness now here then we get to the fundamental idea of 00:39:42

then we get to the fundamental idea of 00:39:44

then we get to the fundamental idea of this idea of going with and from this we 00:39:44

this idea of going with and from this we 00:39:47

this idea of going with and from this we shall be able to construct the whole 00:39:47

shall be able to construct the whole 00:39:50

shall be able to construct the whole notion of network and this is the idea I 00:39:50

notion of network and this is the idea I 00:39:54

notion of network and this is the idea I said at the beginning is extremely 00:39:54

said at the beginning is extremely 00:39:56

said at the beginning is extremely simple but very difficult for people 00:39:56

simple but very difficult for people 00:40:01

simple but very difficult for people brought up to use Western languages to 00:40:01

brought up to use Western languages to 00:40:04

brought up to use Western languages to understand now going witness we could 00:40:04

understand now going witness we could 00:40:10

understand now going witness we could call it relativity relationship means 00:40:10

call it relativity relationship means 00:40:16

call it relativity relationship means simply let me first of all put it in a 00:40:16

simply let me first of all put it in a 00:40:19

simply let me first of all put it in a very extreme form consider yourselves 00:40:19

very extreme form consider yourselves 00:40:25

very extreme form consider yourselves yourself sitting here at this moment 00:40:25

yourself sitting here at this moment 00:40:29

yourself sitting here at this moment being just exactly the sort of person 00:40:29

being just exactly the sort of person 00:40:32

being just exactly the sort of person you are maybe a little neurotic maybe a 00:40:32

you are maybe a little neurotic maybe a 00:40:38

you are maybe a little neurotic maybe a little sick physically maybe a little 00:40:38

little sick physically maybe a little 00:40:42

little sick physically maybe a little ashamed of yourself for some reason or 00:40:42

ashamed of yourself for some reason or 00:40:45

ashamed of yourself for some reason or other 00:40:45

00:40:47

just the way you are anyway 00:40:47

just the way you are anyway 00:40:49

just the way you are anyway just like that sitting here that 00:40:49

just like that sitting here that 00:40:54

just like that sitting here that situation goes with as back goes with 00:40:54

situation goes with as back goes with 00:41:02

situation goes with as back goes with front the entire situation of the rest 00:41:02

front the entire situation of the rest 00:41:06

front the entire situation of the rest of the universe 00:41:06

00:41:12

now that was you as you are exactly the 00:41:12

now that was you as you are exactly the 00:41:16

now that was you as you are exactly the way you are and you really don't know 00:41:16

way you are and you really don't know 00:41:18

way you are and you really don't know what that is you may have some opinions 00:41:18

what that is you may have some opinions 00:41:21

what that is you may have some opinions about it but you really don't know that 00:41:21

about it but you really don't know that 00:41:24

about it but you really don't know that goes with the way the whole of the rest 00:41:24

goes with the way the whole of the rest 00:41:28

goes with the way the whole of the rest of boundless being is arranged now it 00:41:28

of boundless being is arranged now it 00:41:32

of boundless being is arranged now it isn't that the way the rest of boundless 00:41:32

isn't that the way the rest of boundless 00:41:34

isn't that the way the rest of boundless being is arranged is determining you to 00:41:34

being is arranged is determining you to 00:41:36

being is arranged is determining you to be the way you are or if it is that if 00:41:36

be the way you are or if it is that if 00:41:43

be the way you are or if it is that if that's true if it determines you then we 00:41:43

that's true if it determines you then we 00:41:48

that's true if it determines you then we must also allow the other side of the 00:41:48

must also allow the other side of the 00:41:51

must also allow the other side of the picture that you determine it it's your 00:41:51

picture that you determine it it's your 00:41:58

picture that you determine it it's your karma you did it but you say no but I 00:41:58

karma you did it but you say no but I 00:42:03

karma you did it but you say no but I didn't I couldn't help it it did me and 00:42:03

didn't I couldn't help it it did me and 00:42:07

didn't I couldn't help it it did me and you can say taste isn't it isn't this 00:42:07

you can say taste isn't it isn't this 00:42:10

you can say taste isn't it isn't this doesn't like two children arguing until 00:42:10

doesn't like two children arguing until 00:42:12

doesn't like two children arguing until you realize that the argument was was 00:42:12

you realize that the argument was was 00:42:15

you realize that the argument was was stupid because you and it are one event 00:42:15

stupid because you and it are one event 00:42:19

stupid because you and it are one event and it isn't the question of it 00:42:19

and it isn't the question of it 00:42:20

and it isn't the question of it controlling you or you controlling it 00:42:20

controlling you or you controlling it 00:42:22

controlling you or you controlling it it's all it's all one event as Teilhard 00:42:22

it's all it's all one event as Teilhard 00:42:27

it's all it's all one event as Teilhard de Chardin said the whole universe is 00:42:27

de Chardin said the whole universe is 00:42:29

de Chardin said the whole universe is the only true atom the only truly 00:42:29

the only true atom the only truly 00:42:32

the only true atom the only truly indivisible whole so the human being 00:42:32

indivisible whole so the human being 00:42:37

indivisible whole so the human being though it finds this difficult to 00:42:37

though it finds this difficult to 00:42:39

though it finds this difficult to understand because we're always telling 00:42:39

understand because we're always telling 00:42:42

understand because we're always telling each other now you should be different 00:42:42

each other now you should be different 00:42:45

each other now you should be different you ought to change 00:42:45

00:42:50

now listen this is if you're sick and 00:42:50

now listen this is if you're sick and 00:42:54

now listen this is if you're sick and I've got a system in CI I've got a 00:42:54

I've got a system in CI I've got a 00:42:55

I've got a system in CI I've got a system I would a real school here a 00:42:55

system I would a real school here a 00:42:58

system I would a real school here a thing that there's very important and 00:42:58

thing that there's very important and 00:43:00

thing that there's very important and you should come and study with that may 00:43:00

you should come and study with that may 00:43:02

you should come and study with that may not be mine it buddy maybe some big sage 00:43:02

not be mine it buddy maybe some big sage 00:43:05

not be mine it buddy maybe some big sage or pundit that I know and you should 00:43:05

or pundit that I know and you should 00:43:07

or pundit that I know and you should come around and study that and I've 00:43:07

come around and study that and I've 00:43:13

come around and study that and I've thought about this for a long time 00:43:13

thought about this for a long time 00:43:15

thought about this for a long time because I've heard every kind of opinion 00:43:15

because I've heard every kind of opinion 00:43:18

because I've heard every kind of opinion of all the sorts of things that I should 00:43:18

of all the sorts of things that I should 00:43:20

of all the sorts of things that I should do in order to get myself into shape and 00:43:20

do in order to get myself into shape and 00:43:23

do in order to get myself into shape and I realized that if I followed this 00:43:23

I realized that if I followed this 00:43:26

I realized that if I followed this advice I would spend my entire day doing 00:43:26

advice I would spend my entire day doing 00:43:30

advice I would spend my entire day doing exercises in preparation for life I 00:43:30

exercises in preparation for life I 00:43:34

exercises in preparation for life I [Music] 00:43:34

[Music] 00:43:35

[Music] don't know we're not ever get around to 00:43:35

don't know we're not ever get around to 00:43:38

don't know we're not ever get around to that you know I would have my half an 00:43:38

that you know I would have my half an 00:43:42

that you know I would have my half an hour's yoga practice one hour of zazen 00:43:42

hour's yoga practice one hour of zazen 00:43:46

hour's yoga practice one hour of zazen so much physical exercises and so much 00:43:46

so much physical exercises and so much 00:43:52

so much physical exercises and so much memory practice so much the special diet 00:43:52

memory practice so much the special diet 00:43:56

memory practice so much the special diet preparation to be sure that I got proper 00:43:56

preparation to be sure that I got proper 00:43:59

preparation to be sure that I got proper food and if I think this all through I 00:43:59

food and if I think this all through I 00:44:02

food and if I think this all through I think oh my god then another school of 00:44:02

think oh my god then another school of 00:44:09

think oh my god then another school of thought will say no that's the thing 00:44:09

thought will say no that's the thing 00:44:11

thought will say no that's the thing you're getting confused just do one 00:44:12

you're getting confused just do one 00:44:13

you're getting confused just do one thing see 00:44:13

thing see 00:44:16

thing see but then I say now how am I going to 00:44:16

but then I say now how am I going to 00:44:18

but then I say now how am I going to choose which one I'm going to do what he 00:44:18

choose which one I'm going to do what he 00:44:20

choose which one I'm going to do what he says obviously this one's the best and 00:44:20

says obviously this one's the best and 00:44:22

says obviously this one's the best and then before you know why you are you're 00:44:22

then before you know why you are you're 00:44:23

then before you know why you are you're sewed up by some religious fanatic now 00:44:23

sewed up by some religious fanatic now 00:44:30

sewed up by some religious fanatic now please I don't want to do this to you 00:44:30

please I don't want to do this to you 00:44:31

please I don't want to do this to you please don't think that I have any such 00:44:31

please don't think that I have any such 00:44:33

please don't think that I have any such recipe that I'm going to give you 00:44:33

recipe that I'm going to give you 00:44:35

recipe that I'm going to give you anything to do for five minutes every 00:44:35

anything to do for five minutes every 00:44:37

anything to do for five minutes every morning I just am NOT 00:44:37

morning I just am NOT 00:44:39

morning I just am NOT I want to my whole notion would be to 00:44:39

I want to my whole notion would be to 00:44:43

I want to my whole notion would be to set you a whole free heat so that you'd 00:44:43

set you a whole free heat so that you'd 00:44:47

set you a whole free heat so that you'd only have to attend one seminar never 00:44:47

only have to attend one seminar never 00:44:49

only have to attend one seminar never have to come back that's the idea really 00:44:49

have to come back that's the idea really 00:44:57

have to come back that's the idea really because I know that so far as my own 00:44:58

because I know that so far as my own 00:45:00

because I know that so far as my own livelihood is concerned that there are 00:45:00

livelihood is concerned that there are 00:45:03

livelihood is concerned that there are always more people and if no I don't 00:45:03

always more people and if no I don't 00:45:10

always more people and if no I don't collect the following and just send them 00:45:10

collect the following and just send them 00:45:12

collect the following and just send them all away 00:45:12

all away 00:45:12

all away plenty more people to fill the vacuum 00:45:12

plenty more people to fill the vacuum 00:45:14

plenty more people to fill the vacuum [Laughter] 00:45:15

[Laughter] 00:45:17

[Laughter] but this is the important this is the 00:45:17

but this is the important this is the 00:45:20

but this is the important this is the whole idea that we're going to work on 00:45:20

whole idea that we're going to work on 00:45:22

whole idea that we're going to work on of a net that you are like a dewdrop on 00:45:22

of a net that you are like a dewdrop on 00:45:34

of a net that you are like a dewdrop on a multi-dimensional spider's web early 00:45:34

a multi-dimensional spider's web early 00:45:37

a multi-dimensional spider's web early in the morning and if you look at that 00:45:37

in the morning and if you look at that 00:45:40

in the morning and if you look at that thing one or carefully you will see that 00:45:40

thing one or carefully you will see that 00:45:42

thing one or carefully you will see that in every dewdrop there the reflections 00:45:42

in every dewdrop there the reflections 00:45:45

in every dewdrop there the reflections of all the other view drops so the way 00:45:45

of all the other view drops so the way 00:45:47

of all the other view drops so the way that dew drop looks goes with the way 00:45:47

that dew drop looks goes with the way 00:45:50

that dew drop looks goes with the way all the other ones look see but to kill 00:45:50

all the other ones look see but to kill 00:45:54

all the other ones look see but to kill a glimmer in it and so on it's peculiar 00:45:54

a glimmer in it and so on it's peculiar 00:45:56

a glimmer in it and so on it's peculiar position and everybody has to have a 00:45:56

position and everybody has to have a 00:45:58

position and everybody has to have a peculiar position in the cosmos ok so 00:45:58

peculiar position in the cosmos ok so 00:46:04

peculiar position in the cosmos ok so you see the reflections in every one of 00:46:04

you see the reflections in every one of 00:46:06

you see the reflections in every one of them are different according to the 00:46:06

them are different according to the 00:46:09

them are different according to the position they're in and the other dew 00:46:09

position they're in and the other dew 00:46:11

position they're in and the other dew drops that they reflect that 00:46:11

drops that they reflect that 00:46:12

drops that they reflect that such-and-such angles but nevertheless 00:46:12

00:46:19

but the whole network all the dew drops 00:46:19

but the whole network all the dew drops 00:46:23

but the whole network all the dew drops depend on each individual teardrop and 00:46:23

depend on each individual teardrop and 00:46:26

depend on each individual teardrop and each individual view drop mutually 00:46:26

each individual view drop mutually 00:46:28

each individual view drop mutually depends on all the others and that's the 00:46:29

depends on all the others and that's the 00:46:31

depends on all the others and that's the sort of a scheme we're living in and 00:46:31

sort of a scheme we're living in and 00:46:34

sort of a scheme we're living in and it's a little bit of front sound logic 00:46:34

it's a little bit of front sound logic 00:46:36

it's a little bit of front sound logic at first because we say I can understand 00:46:36

at first because we say I can understand 00:46:40

at first because we say I can understand that I depend on this universe because 00:46:40

that I depend on this universe because 00:46:41

that I depend on this universe because after all I need sunlight and air and 00:46:41

after all I need sunlight and air and 00:46:43

after all I need sunlight and air and water and the help of the society and 00:46:43

water and the help of the society and 00:46:46

water and the help of the society and all I can think I needed a father and 00:46:46

all I can think I needed a father and 00:46:47

all I can think I needed a father and mother but looking at it from the other 00:46:47

mother but looking at it from the other 00:46:50

mother but looking at it from the other point of view I find it very difficult 00:46:50

point of view I find it very difficult 00:46:52

point of view I find it very difficult see how the whole thing depends on me 00:46:52

see how the whole thing depends on me 00:46:55

see how the whole thing depends on me that's because we've been brought up 00:46:55

that's because we've been brought up 00:46:57

that's because we've been brought up with a put-down theory of the individual 00:46:57

with a put-down theory of the individual 00:47:00

with a put-down theory of the individual new and a little children should be seen 00:47:00

new and a little children should be seen 00:47:03

new and a little children should be seen enough hello you are the servant and 00:47:03

enough hello you are the servant and 00:47:06

enough hello you are the servant and subject of God and don't you ask 00:47:06

subject of God and don't you ask 00:47:08

subject of God and don't you ask impertinent questions or another way of 00:47:08

impertinent questions or another way of 00:47:12

impertinent questions or another way of putting us down is to say well you're 00:47:12

putting us down is to say well you're 00:47:13

putting us down is to say well you're just a piece of the Fluke in a mindless 00:47:13

just a piece of the Fluke in a mindless 00:47:15

just a piece of the Fluke in a mindless mechanism we always managed not to find 00:47:15

mechanism we always managed not to find 00:47:20

mechanism we always managed not to find out that the relationship of the network 00:47:20

out that the relationship of the network 00:47:23

out that the relationship of the network is mutual it runs both ways that it 00:47:23

is mutual it runs both ways that it 00:47:27

is mutual it runs both ways that it depends on you just as much as you 00:47:27

depends on you just as much as you 00:47:30

depends on you just as much as you depend on it cause you see it's you with 00:47:30

depend on it cause you see it's you with 00:47:37

depend on it cause you see it's you with your ingenious brain that for example 00:47:37

your ingenious brain that for example 00:47:41

your ingenious brain that for example turns vibrations of air and a sound you 00:47:41

turns vibrations of air and a sound you 00:47:45

turns vibrations of air and a sound you turn whatever the Sun is doing into 00:47:45

turn whatever the Sun is doing into 00:47:48

turn whatever the Sun is doing into light you turn whatever the air is doing 00:47:48

light you turn whatever the air is doing 00:47:51

light you turn whatever the air is doing into a sky called blue there is only 00:47:51

into a sky called blue there is only 00:47:54

into a sky called blue there is only blue for a brain just like if you hit a 00:47:54

blue for a brain just like if you hit a 00:47:59

blue for a brain just like if you hit a drum and it's got no skin it won't make 00:47:59

drum and it's got no skin it won't make 00:48:01

drum and it's got no skin it won't make any noise so it's the tight skin that 00:48:01

any noise so it's the tight skin that 00:48:05

any noise so it's the tight skin that evokes the noise out of a moving fist no 00:48:05

evokes the noise out of a moving fist no 00:48:09

evokes the noise out of a moving fist no skin no noise so you as the reflector 00:48:09

skin no noise so you as the reflector 00:48:15

skin no noise so you as the reflector like the dew drop reflects you as the 00:48:15

like the dew drop reflects you as the 00:48:18

like the dew drop reflects you as the so-called reflector of all that goes on 00:48:18

so-called reflector of all that goes on 00:48:20

so-called reflector of all that goes on by the constitution of what kind of a 00:48:20

by the constitution of what kind of a 00:48:23

by the constitution of what kind of a reflector you are you evoke what we call 00:48:23

reflector you are you evoke what we call 00:48:29

reflector you are you evoke what we call Sun Moon and stars nebulae vast spaces 00:48:29

Sun Moon and stars nebulae vast spaces 00:48:34

Sun Moon and stars nebulae vast spaces there any vast in relation to you 00:48:34

there any vast in relation to you 00:48:36

there any vast in relation to you they're not really fast and if you 00:48:36

they're not really fast and if you 00:48:39

they're not really fast and if you compare them with yourself they're vast 00:48:39

compare them with yourself they're vast 00:48:42

compare them with yourself they're vast they could be considered very tiny or 00:48:42

they could be considered very tiny or 00:48:47

they could be considered very tiny or equally the space between two sides of 00:48:47

equally the space between two sides of 00:48:50

equally the space between two sides of the hair could be considered vast if you 00:48:50

the hair could be considered vast if you 00:48:52

the hair could be considered vast if you want to think about it that way I mean 00:48:52

want to think about it that way I mean 00:48:54

want to think about it that way I mean if you really want to go into a hair an 00:48:54

if you really want to go into a hair an 00:48:56

if you really want to go into a hair an awful lot between 101 diameter of a hair 00:48:56

awful lot between 101 diameter of a hair 00:49:00

awful lot between 101 diameter of a hair and if you think about it a long time 00:49:00

and if you think about it a long time 00:49:03

and if you think about it a long time you'll think it's of what we call a vast 00:49:03

you'll think it's of what we call a vast 00:49:05

you'll think it's of what we call a vast subject like microscopy it is a vast 00:49:05

subject like microscopy it is a vast 00:49:12

subject like microscopy it is a vast subject depends on on the attitude 00:49:12

subject depends on on the attitude 00:49:15

subject depends on on the attitude reasoning but the the the basic 00:49:15

reasoning but the the the basic 00:49:20

reasoning but the the the basic principle thing I really want to try and 00:49:20

principle thing I really want to try and 00:49:22

principle thing I really want to try and get across is this idea of going with 00:49:22

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the universe around you is your outside 00:49:26

the universe around you is your outside 00:49:30

the universe around you is your outside just as much as the organs inside your 00:49:30

just as much as the organs inside your 00:49:33

just as much as the organs inside your skin are your inside you go with it 00:49:33

skin are your inside you go with it 00:49:38

skin are your inside you go with it in the same way that the stalk goes with 00:49:38

in the same way that the stalk goes with 00:49:42

in the same way that the stalk goes with the root or with the flower and 00:49:42

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as front goes was back as north pole of 00:49:55

as front goes was back as north pole of 00:50:00

as front goes was back as north pole of magnet goes with South Pole this 00:50:00

magnet goes with South Pole this 00:50:03

magnet goes with South Pole this principle of relationship governs 00:50:03

principle of relationship governs 00:50:05

principle of relationship governs everything 00:50:05

everything 00:50:05

everything I wouldn't say governs I'm only using 00:50:05

I wouldn't say governs I'm only using 00:50:09

I wouldn't say governs I'm only using these wretched terms that we have to use 00:50:09

these wretched terms that we have to use 00:50:11

these wretched terms that we have to use all of our language it hit it underlies 00:50:11

all of our language it hit it underlies 00:50:15

all of our language it hit it underlies everything 00:50:15

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and it's important to realize and let me 00:50:23

and it's important to realize and let me 00:50:27

and it's important to realize and let me repeat this that the great universe does 00:50:27

repeat this that the great universe does 00:50:32

repeat this that the great universe does not control the small individual anymore 00:50:32

not control the small individual anymore 00:50:40

not control the small individual anymore than the small individual actually 00:50:40

than the small individual actually 00:50:41

than the small individual actually controls the great universe this is not 00:50:41

controls the great universe this is not 00:50:44

controls the great universe this is not a question of controlling it is a 00:50:44

a question of controlling it is a 00:50:48

a question of controlling it is a question of more like dancing of what 00:50:48

question of more like dancing of what 00:50:51

question of more like dancing of what happens rather than what makes it happen 00:50:51

happens rather than what makes it happen 00:50:55

happens rather than what makes it happen things aren't made to happen 00:50:55

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only if you insist that a certain event 00:51:04

only if you insist that a certain event 00:51:06

only if you insist that a certain event is quite separate then you can think of 00:51:06

is quite separate then you can think of 00:51:09

is quite separate then you can think of it being made to happen by the events 00:51:09

it being made to happen by the events 00:51:12

it being made to happen by the events that came before it but if you realize 00:51:12

that came before it but if you realize 00:51:15

that came before it but if you realize they're all parts of one event or 00:51:15

they're all parts of one event or 00:51:17

they're all parts of one event or different aspects different phases of 00:51:18

different aspects different phases of 00:51:20

different aspects different phases of one event then you see it happening and 00:51:20

one event then you see it happening and 00:51:23

one event then you see it happening and you don't see anything making it happen 00:51:23

00:51:27

forcing that whole idea of things being 00:51:27

forcing that whole idea of things being 00:51:30

forcing that whole idea of things being made to happen in other words goes back 00:51:30

made to happen in other words goes back 00:51:32

made to happen in other words goes back to the idea of a universe that is based 00:51:32

to the idea of a universe that is based 00:51:36

to the idea of a universe that is based on a monic a monarchical image where the 00:51:36

on a monic a monarchical image where the 00:51:39

on a monic a monarchical image where the bus says damage you do that and the 00:51:39

bus says damage you do that and the 00:51:42

bus says damage you do that and the thing can't help it and so it's made to 00:51:42

thing can't help it and so it's made to 00:51:44

thing can't help it and so it's made to happen but say in Chinese Taoist 00:51:44

happen but say in Chinese Taoist 00:51:50

happen but say in Chinese Taoist philosophy the universe is just not seen 00:51:50

philosophy the universe is just not seen 00:51:52

philosophy the universe is just not seen in that way it's not seen as but 00:51:52

in that way it's not seen as but 00:51:55

in that way it's not seen as but anything is not made to happen it is 00:51:55

anything is not made to happen it is 00:51:58

anything is not made to happen it is what does happen but it's all 00:51:58

what does happen but it's all 00:52:00

what does happen but it's all interrelated and therefore there is a 00:52:00

interrelated and therefore there is a 00:52:03

interrelated and therefore there is a pattern to it there is an order to it 00:52:03

pattern to it there is an order to it 00:52:05

pattern to it there is an order to it the order of the net things and events 00:52:05

the order of the net things and events 00:52:09

the order of the net things and events are explained as being links in a causal 00:52:09

are explained as being links in a causal 00:52:12

are explained as being links in a causal chain and so every particular happening 00:52:12

chain and so every particular happening 00:52:16

chain and so every particular happening that is identified as a thing or an 00:52:16

that is identified as a thing or an 00:52:18

that is identified as a thing or an event which is however quite an 00:52:18

event which is however quite an 00:52:20

event which is however quite an arbitrary kind of selection is explained 00:52:20

arbitrary kind of selection is explained 00:52:24

arbitrary kind of selection is explained by its past by the chain of events which 00:52:24

by its past by the chain of events which 00:52:27

by its past by the chain of events which lead to it in a causal sequence on the 00:52:27

lead to it in a causal sequence on the 00:52:31

lead to it in a causal sequence on the other hand in the thinking of the 00:52:31

other hand in the thinking of the 00:52:33

other hand in the thinking of the reticulate relationship a thing is 00:52:33

reticulate relationship a thing is 00:52:35

reticulate relationship a thing is explained not simply by its relationship 00:52:35

explained not simply by its relationship 00:52:37

explained not simply by its relationship to past events but by its context that 00:52:37

to past events but by its context that 00:52:41

to past events but by its context that is to say its relationship to present 00:52:41

is to say its relationship to present 00:52:44

is to say its relationship to present and future events as well as past so 00:52:44

and future events as well as past so 00:52:47

and future events as well as past so that every event becomes something in a 00:52:47

that every event becomes something in a 00:52:50

that every event becomes something in a network now you will very well 00:52:50

network now you will very well 00:52:52

network now you will very well understand that when you see the knots 00:52:52

understand that when you see the knots 00:52:54

understand that when you see the knots in a network or or better the squares of 00:52:54

in a network or or better the squares of 00:53:00

in a network or or better the squares of the net they're all held together by 00:53:00

the net they're all held together by 00:53:03

the net they're all held together by each other imagine the kind of network 00:53:03

each other imagine the kind of network 00:53:08

each other imagine the kind of network where instead of there being well 00:53:08

where instead of there being well 00:53:11

where instead of there being well something like knitting in knitting the 00:53:11

something like knitting in knitting the 00:53:14

something like knitting in knitting the stitches are all helping together by 00:53:14

stitches are all helping together by 00:53:16

stitches are all helping together by each other and 00:53:16

each other and 00:53:17

each other and something breaks at one point the thing 00:53:17

something breaks at one point the thing 00:53:20

something breaks at one point the thing starts raveling so the reticulate view 00:53:20

starts raveling so the reticulate view 00:53:26

starts raveling so the reticulate view though the net view of the universe is 00:53:26

though the net view of the universe is 00:53:29

though the net view of the universe is one in which the Buddhists say 00:53:29

one in which the Buddhists say 00:53:33

one in which the Buddhists say everything mutually interpenetrates 00:53:33

everything mutually interpenetrates 00:53:37

everything mutually interpenetrates everything else so as I was trying to 00:53:37

everything else so as I was trying to 00:53:41

everything else so as I was trying to make the central point the point of 00:53:41

make the central point the point of 00:53:43

make the central point the point of implication the point of relativity that 00:53:43

implication the point of relativity that 00:53:47

implication the point of relativity that things go together like two sticks 00:53:47

things go together like two sticks 00:53:49

things go together like two sticks standing on the ground in this way see 00:53:49

standing on the ground in this way see 00:53:56

standing on the ground in this way see they give each other mutual support or 00:53:56

they give each other mutual support or 00:54:01

they give each other mutual support or like the three rings in the ballantine 00:54:01

like the three rings in the ballantine 00:54:03

like the three rings in the ballantine via trademark or the Christian symbol of 00:54:03

via trademark or the Christian symbol of 00:54:06

via trademark or the Christian symbol of the Holy Trinity those rings interlock 00:54:06

the Holy Trinity those rings interlock 00:54:09

the Holy Trinity those rings interlock but take one of them away and the 00:54:09

but take one of them away and the 00:54:12

but take one of them away and the interlocking is broken down for all of 00:54:12

interlocking is broken down for all of 00:54:14

interlocking is broken down for all of them so in the same way the individual 00:54:14

them so in the same way the individual 00:54:21

them so in the same way the individual although seeming to be something that 00:54:21

although seeming to be something that 00:54:25

although seeming to be something that rattles around in the universe 00:54:25

rattles around in the universe 00:54:28

rattles around in the universe although a given planet or a given star 00:54:28

although a given planet or a given star 00:54:30

although a given planet or a given star seems to be something that is moving on 00:54:30

seems to be something that is moving on 00:54:34

seems to be something that is moving on its own the motion the behavior of stars 00:54:34

its own the motion the behavior of stars 00:54:40

its own the motion the behavior of stars is a situation that arises only because 00:54:40

is a situation that arises only because 00:54:43

is a situation that arises only because of the mutual interdependence of all 00:54:43

of the mutual interdependence of all 00:54:45

of the mutual interdependence of all stars because to take a very simple 00:54:45

stars because to take a very simple 00:54:49

stars because to take a very simple illustration if there is only one star 00:54:49

illustration if there is only one star 00:54:51

illustration if there is only one star in the whole universe no motion can be 00:54:51

in the whole universe no motion can be 00:54:54

in the whole universe no motion can be ascribed to it it can't even be said to 00:54:54

ascribed to it it can't even be said to 00:54:57

ascribed to it it can't even be said to be still nobody knows what it's doing 00:54:57

be still nobody knows what it's doing 00:55:00

be still nobody knows what it's doing because there's nothing for it to relate 00:55:00

because there's nothing for it to relate 00:55:01

because there's nothing for it to relate to but take two stars and they can get 00:55:01

to but take two stars and they can get 00:55:06

to but take two stars and they can get nearer to each other or further away 00:55:06

nearer to each other or further away 00:55:07

nearer to each other or further away from each other but nobody knows which 00:55:07

from each other but nobody knows which 00:55:10

from each other but nobody knows which is moving get three stars and then you 00:55:10

is moving get three stars and then you 00:55:16

is moving get three stars and then you have say too close together and one of 00:55:16

have say too close together and one of 00:55:19

have say too close together and one of them seems to go away now 00:55:19

them seems to go away now 00:55:20

them seems to go away now who is moving away from who now the 00:55:20

who is moving away from who now the 00:55:23

who is moving away from who now the toothed star saying hey we don't like 00:55:23

toothed star saying hey we don't like 00:55:25

toothed star saying hey we don't like you we're gonna get out of your way or 00:55:25

you we're gonna get out of your way or 00:55:27

you we're gonna get out of your way or are they saying to the other star why 00:55:27

are they saying to the other star why 00:55:28

are they saying to the other star why don't you like us why do you keep going 00:55:28

don't you like us why do you keep going 00:55:30

don't you like us why do you keep going away 00:55:30

away 00:55:30

away Oh who's right well you can say on the 00:55:30

Oh who's right well you can say on the 00:55:34

Oh who's right well you can say on the principle of democracy that the majority 00:55:34

principle of democracy that the majority 00:55:36

principle of democracy that the majority must be right but then they say well 00:55:36

must be right but then they say well 00:55:40

must be right but then they say well let's have an umpire and we have a 00:55:40

let's have an umpire and we have a 00:55:41

let's have an umpire and we have a fourth star who can stand above us you 00:55:41

fourth star who can stand above us you 00:55:45

fourth star who can stand above us you see two stars can only move in a 00:55:45

see two stars can only move in a 00:55:48

see two stars can only move in a straight line with respect to each other 00:55:48

straight line with respect to each other 00:55:50

straight line with respect to each other three stars can move in a plane with 00:55:50

three stars can move in a plane with 00:55:52

three stars can move in a plane with respect to each other but a fourth star 00:55:52

respect to each other but a fourth star 00:55:54

respect to each other but a fourth star can establish a third dimension where we 00:55:54

can establish a third dimension where we 00:55:56

can establish a third dimension where we can say I can look down on you 00:55:56

can say I can look down on you 00:55:58

can say I can look down on you and take an objective standpoint but 00:55:58

and take an objective standpoint but 00:56:00

and take an objective standpoint but then the argument is which one of them 00:56:00

then the argument is which one of them 00:56:02

then the argument is which one of them is the fourth but that's the basic 00:56:02

is the fourth but that's the basic 00:56:06

is the fourth but that's the basic principle on which the whole universe is 00:56:06

principle on which the whole universe is 00:56:07

principle on which the whole universe is constructed it's a relativity system in 00:56:07

constructed it's a relativity system in 00:56:13

constructed it's a relativity system in which motion depends on comparison with 00:56:13

which motion depends on comparison with 00:56:18

which motion depends on comparison with something relatively still and there 00:56:18

something relatively still and there 00:56:22

something relatively still and there can't be any motion at all unless there 00:56:22

can't be any motion at all unless there 00:56:24

can't be any motion at all unless there is that comparison so because of this 00:56:24

is that comparison so because of this 00:56:31

is that comparison so because of this relationship every individual is so 00:56:31

relationship every individual is so 00:56:39

relationship every individual is so related to everything else that's going 00:56:39

related to everything else that's going 00:56:42

related to everything else that's going on that you imply it 00:56:42

00:56:49

in other words anybody who was a great 00:56:49

in other words anybody who was a great 00:56:54

in other words anybody who was a great scientist from some other world 00:56:54

scientist from some other world 00:56:55

scientist from some other world altogether who studied a human body 00:56:55

altogether who studied a human body 00:56:59

altogether who studied a human body carefully and figured out the conditions 00:56:59

carefully and figured out the conditions 00:57:02

carefully and figured out the conditions under which such a thing would exist he 00:57:02

under which such a thing would exist he 00:57:06

under which such a thing would exist he would come to the conclusion that that 00:57:06

would come to the conclusion that that 00:57:09

would come to the conclusion that that human body was something from a universe 00:57:09

human body was something from a universe 00:57:13

human body was something from a universe just such as we have he would find that 00:57:13

just such as we have he would find that 00:57:17

just such as we have he would find that your structure and your behavior implied 00:57:17

your structure and your behavior implied 00:57:20

your structure and your behavior implied this whole thing just as with a laser 00:57:20

this whole thing just as with a laser 00:57:24

this whole thing just as with a laser beam system you can photograph a small 00:57:24

beam system you can photograph a small 00:57:28

beam system you can photograph a small fragment of any photographic negative 00:57:28

fragment of any photographic negative 00:57:31

fragment of any photographic negative and from that tiny fragment you can 00:57:31

and from that tiny fragment you can 00:57:34

and from that tiny fragment you can riess construct the whole picture from 00:57:34

riess construct the whole picture from 00:57:36

riess construct the whole picture from which it was taken because the 00:57:36

which it was taken because the 00:57:39

which it was taken because the crystalline tensions in that fragment 00:57:39

crystalline tensions in that fragment 00:57:41

crystalline tensions in that fragment imply the whole 00:57:41

imply the whole 00:57:43

imply the whole context of crystalline tensions that 00:57:43

context of crystalline tensions that 00:57:45

context of crystalline tensions that belong to that particular negative so in 00:57:45

belong to that particular negative so in 00:57:48

belong to that particular negative so in exactly the same way you as an 00:57:48

exactly the same way you as an 00:57:51

exactly the same way you as an individual imply this world and this 00:57:51

individual imply this world and this 00:57:53

individual imply this world and this world mutually implies you and you are a 00:57:53

world mutually implies you and you are a 00:57:58

world mutually implies you and you are a natural formation moving in and with 00:57:58

natural formation moving in and with 00:58:02

natural formation moving in and with this universe not determined by it 00:58:02

this universe not determined by it 00:58:04

this universe not determined by it because this is not a system of 00:58:04

because this is not a system of 00:58:05

because this is not a system of determinism but you are moving with it 00:58:06

determinism but you are moving with it 00:58:10

determinism but you are moving with it in just the same harmonious way that you 00:58:10

in just the same harmonious way that you 00:58:13

in just the same harmonious way that you notice the waves moving and the trees 00:58:13

notice the waves moving and the trees 00:58:16

notice the waves moving and the trees growing and the clouds moving and as you 00:58:16

growing and the clouds moving and as you 00:58:20

growing and the clouds moving and as you don't accuse the clouds of making 00:58:20

don't accuse the clouds of making 00:58:23

don't accuse the clouds of making aesthetic mistakes so really is a 00:58:23

aesthetic mistakes so really is a 00:58:26

aesthetic mistakes so really is a certain light in which you can see human 00:58:26

certain light in which you can see human 00:58:28

certain light in which you can see human beings both good and bad as perfect 00:58:28

beings both good and bad as perfect 00:58:35

beings both good and bad as perfect forms of nature you may have fashionable 00:58:35

forms of nature you may have fashionable 00:58:38

forms of nature you may have fashionable discriminations about who is beautiful 00:58:38

discriminations about who is beautiful 00:58:40

discriminations about who is beautiful and who is ugly you may have 00:58:40

and who is ugly you may have 00:58:42

and who is ugly you may have metaphysical discriminations about who 00:58:42

metaphysical discriminations about who 00:58:45

metaphysical discriminations about who is sick and who is healthy you may have 00:58:45

is sick and who is healthy you may have 00:58:47

is sick and who is healthy you may have moral discriminations about who is good 00:58:47

moral discriminations about who is good 00:58:49

moral discriminations about who is good and who is evil now these are all points 00:58:49

and who is evil now these are all points 00:58:53

and who is evil now these are all points of view relative points of view they are 00:58:53

of view relative points of view they are 00:58:55

of view relative points of view they are all legitimate because they are parts of 00:58:55

all legitimate because they are parts of 00:58:57

all legitimate because they are parts of the functioning of the whole the fact 00:58:57

the functioning of the whole the fact 00:58:59

the functioning of the whole the fact that you take those points of view that 00:58:59

that you take those points of view that 00:59:01

that you take those points of view that too is part of nature but a skillful 00:59:01

too is part of nature but a skillful 00:59:06

too is part of nature but a skillful person lives on two levels at once you 00:59:06

person lives on two levels at once you 00:59:11

person lives on two levels at once you live basically on the level where you 00:59:11

live basically on the level where you 00:59:14

live basically on the level where you know there are no mistakes can't leave 00:59:14

know there are no mistakes can't leave 00:59:19

know there are no mistakes can't leave everything moves in accordance with what 00:59:19

everything moves in accordance with what 00:59:21

everything moves in accordance with what the Chinese call the Dao the way of 00:59:21

the Chinese call the Dao the way of 00:59:24

the Chinese call the Dao the way of nature and if you have that basic 00:59:24

nature and if you have that basic 00:59:27

nature and if you have that basic feeling you will always be sane but you 00:59:27

feeling you will always be sane but you 00:59:33

feeling you will always be sane but you are able to comprehend within that 00:59:33

are able to comprehend within that 00:59:35

are able to comprehend within that feeling a more restricted point of view 00:59:35

feeling a more restricted point of view 00:59:41

feeling a more restricted point of view whereby things are good and bad just as 00:59:41

whereby things are good and bad just as 00:59:45

whereby things are good and bad just as in the confines of this room in this 00:59:45

in the confines of this room in this 00:59:48

in the confines of this room in this area it's perfectly clear that there's a 00:59:48

area it's perfectly clear that there's a 00:59:50

area it's perfectly clear that there's a difference between the up direction and 00:59:50

difference between the up direction and 00:59:52

difference between the up direction and the down direction but we know that this 00:59:52

the down direction but we know that this 00:59:56

the down direction but we know that this area 00:59:56

area 00:59:57

area is situated in interstellar space and 00:59:57

is situated in interstellar space and 00:59:59

is situated in interstellar space and there there is no up and no down now the 00:59:59

there there is no up and no down now the 01:00:03

there there is no up and no down now the second situation doesn't contradict the 01:00:03

second situation doesn't contradict the 01:00:05

second situation doesn't contradict the first but if you have only the 01:00:05

first but if you have only the 01:00:11

first but if you have only the discriminatory point of view if you take 01:00:11

discriminatory point of view if you take 01:00:14

discriminatory point of view if you take your fundamental stand as a being on the 01:00:14

your fundamental stand as a being on the 01:00:18

your fundamental stand as a being on the difference between good and evil you get 01:00:18

difference between good and evil you get 01:00:20

difference between good and evil you get in the Christian hang-up you have them 01:00:20

in the Christian hang-up you have them 01:00:23

in the Christian hang-up you have them to say that there is eternal heaven and 01:00:23

to say that there is eternal heaven and 01:00:27

to say that there is eternal heaven and eternal hell that the distinction 01:00:27

eternal hell that the distinction 01:00:30

eternal hell that the distinction between good and evil is radical and if 01:00:30

between good and evil is radical and if 01:00:35

between good and evil is radical and if you do that you begin to suffer from a 01:00:35

you do that you begin to suffer from a 01:00:38

you do that you begin to suffer from a disease called chronic guilt which is 01:00:38

disease called chronic guilt which is 01:00:44

disease called chronic guilt which is one of the most destructive emotions 01:00:44

one of the most destructive emotions 01:00:46

one of the most destructive emotions that anybody can have you feel an 01:00:46

that anybody can have you feel an 01:00:50

that anybody can have you feel an outcast from the universe at odds with 01:00:50

outcast from the universe at odds with 01:00:53

outcast from the universe at odds with reality itself at odds with God and that 01:00:53

reality itself at odds with God and that 01:00:58

reality itself at odds with God and that sends people quite mad and it's 01:00:58

sends people quite mad and it's 01:01:01

sends people quite mad and it's responsible for a good deal of the 01:01:01

responsible for a good deal of the 01:01:02

responsible for a good deal of the craziness of Western civilization it's 01:01:02

craziness of Western civilization it's 01:01:08

craziness of Western civilization it's making too much of a good thing out of 01:01:08

making too much of a good thing out of 01:01:10

making too much of a good thing out of the distinction between good and evil it 01:01:10

the distinction between good and evil it 01:01:13

the distinction between good and evil it is an important distinction but it's not 01:01:13

is an important distinction but it's not 01:01:15

is an important distinction but it's not fundamentally important and you have to 01:01:15

fundamentally important and you have to 01:01:19

fundamentally important and you have to learn to admit different degrees of 01:01:19

learn to admit different degrees of 01:01:22

learn to admit different degrees of importance and just say that because you 01:01:22

importance and just say that because you 01:01:27

importance and just say that because you can't just say that because a certain 01:01:27

can't just say that because a certain 01:01:29

can't just say that because a certain distinction isn't absolute that it's not 01:01:29

distinction isn't absolute that it's not 01:01:31

distinction isn't absolute that it's not important after all your own physical 01:01:31

important after all your own physical 01:01:36

important after all your own physical formation is not absolute but it's 01:01:36

formation is not absolute but it's 01:01:39

formation is not absolute but it's important so 01:01:39

01:01:46

the situation of man in this network is 01:01:46

the situation of man in this network is 01:01:53

the situation of man in this network is to repeat the proposition on the one 01:01:53

to repeat the proposition on the one 01:01:57

to repeat the proposition on the one hand that he as an ordinary psycho 01:01:57

hand that he as an ordinary psycho 01:02:01

hand that he as an ordinary psycho physical organism is something that the 01:02:01

physical organism is something that the 01:02:05

physical organism is something that the whole cosmos is doing that was the as 01:02:05

whole cosmos is doing that was the as 01:02:12

whole cosmos is doing that was the as much of truth I think as there is in 01:02:12

much of truth I think as there is in 01:02:15

much of truth I think as there is in modern astrology which I regard as a 01:02:15

modern astrology which I regard as a 01:02:18

modern astrology which I regard as a pseudoscience but it is based on a very 01:02:18

pseudoscience but it is based on a very 01:02:22

pseudoscience but it is based on a very fundamental principle when you draw a 01:02:22

fundamental principle when you draw a 01:02:25

fundamental principle when you draw a map of a person's soul you draw a small 01:02:25

map of a person's soul you draw a small 01:02:28

map of a person's soul you draw a small picture of the universe a very crude 01:02:28

picture of the universe a very crude 01:02:31

picture of the universe a very crude picture and that is the design of that 01:02:31

picture and that is the design of that 01:02:36

picture and that is the design of that person's individuality the truth is 01:02:36

person's individuality the truth is 01:02:39

person's individuality the truth is therefore that your soul is something 01:02:39

therefore that your soul is something 01:02:41

therefore that your soul is something which contains your body your body does 01:02:41

which contains your body your body does 01:02:44

which contains your body your body does not have the soul inside it like a spook 01:02:44

not have the soul inside it like a spook 01:02:46

not have the soul inside it like a spook and the whole cosmos is your soul so the 01:02:46

and the whole cosmos is your soul so the 01:02:53

and the whole cosmos is your soul so the cosmos 01:02:53

cosmos 01:02:54

cosmos is doing you at the point you call here 01:02:54

is doing you at the point you call here 01:02:57

is doing you at the point you call here and now reciprocally you are doing it 01:02:58

and now reciprocally you are doing it 01:03:01

and now reciprocally you are doing it and the one depends upon the other you 01:03:01

and the one depends upon the other you 01:03:07

and the one depends upon the other you have difficulty in conceiving this as a 01:03:07

have difficulty in conceiving this as a 01:03:09

have difficulty in conceiving this as a westerner because we have all been 01:03:09

westerner because we have all been 01:03:12

westerner because we have all been brainwashed by several centuries of put 01:03:12

brainwashed by several centuries of put 01:03:15

brainwashed by several centuries of put down theories of man that you were a the 01:03:15

down theories of man that you were a the 01:03:21

down theories of man that you were a the wretched little subject another 01:03:21

wretched little subject another 01:03:23

wretched little subject another disobedient one at that of an eternal 01:03:23

disobedient one at that of an eternal 01:03:26

disobedient one at that of an eternal king and be that you adjust the 01:03:26

king and be that you adjust the 01:03:29

king and be that you adjust the fortuitous Congress of atoms in a 01:03:29

fortuitous Congress of atoms in a 01:03:31

fortuitous Congress of atoms in a mindless mechanism of incredible 01:03:31

mindless mechanism of incredible 01:03:34

mindless mechanism of incredible vastness having entertained those two 01:03:34

vastness having entertained those two 01:03:38

vastness having entertained those two theories of man and of existence for so 01:03:38

theories of man and of existence for so 01:03:41

theories of man and of existence for so many centuries we are very much 01:03:41

many centuries we are very much 01:03:43

many centuries we are very much brainwashed into being unable to see 01:03:43

brainwashed into being unable to see 01:03:46

brainwashed into being unable to see that we and the universe are mutually 01:03:46

that we and the universe are mutually 01:03:53

that we and the universe are mutually positive or to use the Chinese 01:03:53

positive or to use the Chinese 01:03:56

positive or to use the Chinese expression 01:03:56

expression 01:03:58

expression mutually arising now then a second 01:03:58

mutually arising now then a second 01:04:06

mutually arising now then a second difficulty arises in this which requires 01:04:06

difficulty arises in this which requires 01:04:08

difficulty arises in this which requires that I bring in some ideas first of all 01:04:08

that I bring in some ideas first of all 01:04:10

that I bring in some ideas first of all from Buckminster Fuller the the 01:04:10

from Buckminster Fuller the the 01:04:14

from Buckminster Fuller the the principle notion of buckminster fuller's 01:04:14

principle notion of buckminster fuller's 01:04:16

principle notion of buckminster fuller's thought and if you don't know this name 01:04:16

thought and if you don't know this name 01:04:18

thought and if you don't know this name Buckminster Fuller is what I would call 01:04:18

Buckminster Fuller is what I would call 01:04:20

Buckminster Fuller is what I would call a philosophical engineer a man who is 01:04:20

a philosophical engineer a man who is 01:04:25

a philosophical engineer a man who is one of the most creative minds in the 01:04:25

one of the most creative minds in the 01:04:27

one of the most creative minds in the modern world he invented the geodesic 01:04:27

modern world he invented the geodesic 01:04:30

modern world he invented the geodesic dome which is his main claim to economic 01:04:30

dome which is his main claim to economic 01:04:33

dome which is his main claim to economic fame but beyond that he has done a great 01:04:33

fame but beyond that he has done a great 01:04:37

fame but beyond that he has done a great deal of extremely fascinating thinking 01:04:37

deal of extremely fascinating thinking 01:04:40

deal of extremely fascinating thinking about the future of technology and the 01:04:40

about the future of technology and the 01:04:49

about the future of technology and the situation of man in the universe and he 01:04:49

situation of man in the universe and he 01:04:54

situation of man in the universe and he has devised this important term synergy 01:04:54

01:05:03

coming from the Greek assume with Argos 01:05:03

coming from the Greek assume with Argos 01:05:08

coming from the Greek assume with Argos workers but what he means by synergy is 01:05:08

workers but what he means by synergy is 01:05:17

workers but what he means by synergy is this that every complex organism has as 01:05:17

this that every complex organism has as 01:05:25

this that every complex organism has as a whole an intelligence greater than any 01:05:25

a whole an intelligence greater than any 01:05:29

a whole an intelligence greater than any one of its parts and that every complex 01:05:29

one of its parts and that every complex 01:05:37

one of its parts and that every complex organism as a whole has an intelligence 01:05:37

organism as a whole has an intelligence 01:05:42

organism as a whole has an intelligence greater than any one of its parts this 01:05:42

greater than any one of its parts this 01:05:50

greater than any one of its parts this again is a difficult idea to swallow 01:05:50

again is a difficult idea to swallow 01:05:53

again is a difficult idea to swallow because he applies it to technology in 01:05:53

because he applies it to technology in 01:05:56

because he applies it to technology in this way he is saying that the 01:05:56

this way he is saying that the 01:06:00

this way he is saying that the industrial natural complex in which we 01:06:00

industrial natural complex in which we 01:06:03

industrial natural complex in which we live is something that is going in a 01:06:03

live is something that is going in a 01:06:08

live is something that is going in a certain direction on its own whether you 01:06:08

certain direction on its own whether you 01:06:11

certain direction on its own whether you like it or not and that it is able to 01:06:11

like it or not and that it is able to 01:06:17

like it or not and that it is able to organize your behavior in a more 01:06:17

organize your behavior in a more 01:06:20

organize your behavior in a more intelligent way than you can organize it 01:06:20

intelligent way than you can organize it 01:06:22

intelligent way than you can organize it and he believes therefore that the 01:06:22

and he believes therefore that the 01:06:26

and he believes therefore that the increasing complexity of the industrial 01:06:26

increasing complexity of the industrial 01:06:30

increasing complexity of the industrial complex will of itself say outlaw such 01:06:30

complex will of itself say outlaw such 01:06:33

complex will of itself say outlaw such lunacy is war it will make it impossible 01:06:33

lunacy is war it will make it impossible 01:06:36

lunacy is war it will make it impossible and that we shall find ourselves 01:06:36

and that we shall find ourselves 01:06:40

and that we shall find ourselves increasingly organized by an intelligent 01:06:40

increasingly organized by an intelligent 01:06:45

increasingly organized by an intelligent system that is not under our conscious 01:06:45

system that is not under our conscious 01:06:48

system that is not under our conscious direction but will make us feel I 01:06:48

direction but will make us feel I 01:06:52

direction but will make us feel I suppose rather as our individual selves 01:06:52

suppose rather as our individual selves 01:06:54

suppose rather as our individual selves feel inside our bodies he gives an 01:06:54

feel inside our bodies he gives an 01:06:58

feel inside our bodies he gives an illustration the transportation 01:06:58

illustration the transportation 01:07:02

illustration the transportation communications network aircraft radio 01:07:02

communications network aircraft radio 01:07:07

communications network aircraft radio television telephone 01:07:07

01:07:11

these taken together are constituting a 01:07:11

these taken together are constituting a 01:07:14

these taken together are constituting a global net which might be said to be 01:07:14

global net which might be said to be 01:07:18

global net which might be said to be something like Teilhard de Chardin idea 01:07:18

something like Teilhard de Chardin idea 01:07:21

something like Teilhard de Chardin idea of the noosphere I hope you all read 01:07:21

of the noosphere I hope you all read 01:07:24

of the noosphere I hope you all read Teilhard de Chardin the famous Jesuit 01:07:24

Teilhard de Chardin the famous Jesuit 01:07:26

Teilhard de Chardin the famous Jesuit theologian who wrote the the best of his 01:07:26

theologian who wrote the the best of his 01:07:29

theologian who wrote the the best of his books is the phenomenon of man the earth 01:07:29

books is the phenomenon of man the earth 01:07:37

books is the phenomenon of man the earth which is the geosphere from the Greek 01:07:37

which is the geosphere from the Greek 01:07:43

which is the geosphere from the Greek Geoff's geese geese the earth then the 01:07:43

Geoff's geese geese the earth then the 01:07:48

Geoff's geese geese the earth then the earth as the geosphere is covered with a 01:07:48

earth as the geosphere is covered with a 01:07:51

earth as the geosphere is covered with a biosphere that is the sphere of living 01:07:51

biosphere that is the sphere of living 01:07:54

biosphere that is the sphere of living organisms the biosphere in turn 01:07:54

organisms the biosphere in turn 01:07:57

organisms the biosphere in turn generates the noosphere which is the 01:07:57

generates the noosphere which is the 01:07:59

generates the noosphere which is the communication network that we call the 01:07:59

communication network that we call the 01:08:01

communication network that we call the mind through literature through speech 01:08:01

mind through literature through speech 01:08:05

mind through literature through speech through radio and television 01:08:05

through radio and television 01:08:07

through radio and television communication the noosphere is slowly 01:08:07

communication the noosphere is slowly 01:08:10

communication the noosphere is slowly realized so you know Buckminster Fuller 01:08:10

realized so you know Buckminster Fuller 01:08:14

realized so you know Buckminster Fuller is really talking about the same thing 01:08:14

is really talking about the same thing 01:08:16

is really talking about the same thing the noosphere 01:08:16

the noosphere 01:08:18

the noosphere is the network of communication set up 01:08:18

is the network of communication set up 01:08:21

is the network of communication set up by technology and the so for example 01:08:21

by technology and the so for example 01:08:26

by technology and the so for example let's just take air transportation as a 01:08:26

let's just take air transportation as a 01:08:33

let's just take air transportation as a result of jet planes all centers that 01:08:33

result of jet planes all centers that 01:08:38

result of jet planes all centers that are in communication with each other by 01:08:38

are in communication with each other by 01:08:40

are in communication with each other by jet aircraft are becoming increasingly 01:08:40

jet aircraft are becoming increasingly 01:08:43

jet aircraft are becoming increasingly the same place when you wake up in Tokyo 01:08:43

the same place when you wake up in Tokyo 01:08:50

the same place when you wake up in Tokyo having come from Los Angeles or San 01:08:50

having come from Los Angeles or San 01:08:53

having come from Los Angeles or San Francisco you are slightly in doubt as 01:08:53

Francisco you are slightly in doubt as 01:08:56

Francisco you are slightly in doubt as to where you are because Tokyo is an 01:08:56

to where you are because Tokyo is an 01:09:00

to where you are because Tokyo is an immense muddle it's a mixture of Paris 01:09:00

immense muddle it's a mixture of Paris 01:09:04

immense muddle it's a mixture of Paris with Los Angeles of San Francisco with 01:09:04

with Los Angeles of San Francisco with 01:09:11

with Los Angeles of San Francisco with Shanghai of London a vaguely thrown in 01:09:11

Shanghai of London a vaguely thrown in 01:09:16

Shanghai of London a vaguely thrown in and sort of a touch of Japan 01:09:16

01:09:23

that's a phenomenal place but if you 01:09:23

that's a phenomenal place but if you 01:09:26

that's a phenomenal place but if you live in San Francisco you realize it's 01:09:26

live in San Francisco you realize it's 01:09:29

live in San Francisco you realize it's becoming more like Tokyo because we have 01:09:29

becoming more like Tokyo because we have 01:09:33

becoming more like Tokyo because we have a tremendous inrush of Japanese culture 01:09:33

a tremendous inrush of Japanese culture 01:09:35

a tremendous inrush of Japanese culture we have superb Japanese restaurants you 01:09:35

we have superb Japanese restaurants you 01:09:39

we have superb Japanese restaurants you can go to sushi bars that is to say bars 01:09:39

can go to sushi bars that is to say bars 01:09:42

can go to sushi bars that is to say bars for rice balls and raw fish which are 01:09:42

for rice balls and raw fish which are 01:09:45

for rice balls and raw fish which are beautifully served just like in a bar in 01:09:45

beautifully served just like in a bar in 01:09:48

beautifully served just like in a bar in Tokyo and increasingly we have 01:09:48

Tokyo and increasingly we have 01:09:51

Tokyo and increasingly we have supermarkets which sell Oriental African 01:09:51

supermarkets which sell Oriental African 01:09:54

supermarkets which sell Oriental African and Japanese goods and I call them 01:09:54

and Japanese goods and I call them 01:09:58

and Japanese goods and I call them supermarkets for the unusual and more 01:09:58

supermarkets for the unusual and more 01:10:01

supermarkets for the unusual and more and more people are laying down tatami 01:10:01

and more people are laying down tatami 01:10:03

and more people are laying down tatami mats and cooking over hibachis and using 01:10:03

mats and cooking over hibachis and using 01:10:08

mats and cooking over hibachis and using chopsticks and every kind of thing like 01:10:08

chopsticks and every kind of thing like 01:10:10

chopsticks and every kind of thing like that so the point is that how near a 01:10:10

that so the point is that how near a 01:10:17

that so the point is that how near a place is to you is simply a factor of 01:10:17

place is to you is simply a factor of 01:10:19

place is to you is simply a factor of transportation there are places in the 01:10:19

transportation there are places in the 01:10:22

transportation there are places in the United States I was just in one another 01:10:22

United States I was just in one another 01:10:25

United States I was just in one another far out 01:10:25

far out 01:10:26

far out Indian area of South Dakota it takes 01:10:26

Indian area of South Dakota it takes 01:10:30

Indian area of South Dakota it takes longer to reach them to get to Tokyo so 01:10:30

longer to reach them to get to Tokyo so 01:10:32

longer to reach them to get to Tokyo so it's further away that's all there is to 01:10:32

it's further away that's all there is to 01:10:34

it's further away that's all there is to it for all practical purposes so 01:10:34

it for all practical purposes so 01:10:38

it for all practical purposes so Fuller's idea is that by the year 1968 01:10:38

Fuller's idea is that by the year 1968 01:10:41

Fuller's idea is that by the year 1968 so soon we have a one-town world and 01:10:41

so soon we have a one-town world and 01:10:50

so soon we have a one-town world and it's coming fast and as you command 01:10:50

it's coming fast and as you command 01:10:56

it's coming fast and as you command beings have some problem adapting to 01:10:56

beings have some problem adapting to 01:10:57

beings have some problem adapting to this because as you know when you travel 01:10:57

this because as you know when you travel 01:11:00

this because as you know when you travel by jet just as when you're in an 01:11:00

by jet just as when you're in an 01:11:03

by jet just as when you're in an elevator that drops too fast you feel it 01:11:03

elevator that drops too fast you feel it 01:11:05

elevator that drops too fast you feel it left your stomach on the 14th floor and 01:11:05

left your stomach on the 14th floor and 01:11:08

left your stomach on the 14th floor and has taken the rest of you down to the 01:11:08

has taken the rest of you down to the 01:11:09

has taken the rest of you down to the first so the jet aircraft leaves your 01:11:09

first so the jet aircraft leaves your 01:11:13

first so the jet aircraft leaves your psyche in London and brings your body to 01:11:13

psyche in London and brings your body to 01:11:16

psyche in London and brings your body to San Francisco and it takes some time to 01:11:16

San Francisco and it takes some time to 01:11:19

San Francisco and it takes some time to catch up all your time rhythms are 01:11:19

catch up all your time rhythms are 01:11:21

catch up all your time rhythms are thrown off but we'll get used to it and 01:11:21

thrown off but we'll get used to it and 01:11:26

thrown off but we'll get used to it and eventually therefore we must add to this 01:11:26

eventually therefore we must add to this 01:11:29

eventually therefore we must add to this planes are very expensive all 01:11:29

planes are very expensive all 01:11:32

planes are very expensive all governments have immense investments in 01:11:32

governments have immense investments in 01:11:34

governments have immense investments in our 01:11:34

our 01:11:35

our and to work they must be kept flying 01:11:35

and to work they must be kept flying 01:11:39

and to work they must be kept flying otherwise they they get out of order so 01:11:39

otherwise they they get out of order so 01:11:43

otherwise they they get out of order so they must be kept moving that means 01:11:43

they must be kept moving that means 01:11:45

they must be kept moving that means there's a also a huge tourist business 01:11:45

there's a also a huge tourist business 01:11:48

there's a also a huge tourist business constantly interested in shuffling 01:11:48

constantly interested in shuffling 01:11:50

constantly interested in shuffling people all around the earth and as a 01:11:50

people all around the earth and as a 01:11:54

people all around the earth and as a result of that it's going to be 01:11:54

result of that it's going to be 01:11:56

result of that it's going to be increasingly a vested interest and 01:11:56

increasingly a vested interest and 01:11:59

increasingly a vested interest and politicians will find it harder and 01:11:59

politicians will find it harder and 01:12:01

politicians will find it harder and harder to stop it in the interest of 01:12:01

harder to stop it in the interest of 01:12:04

harder to stop it in the interest of having a war so what we are in effect 01:12:04

having a war so what we are in effect 01:12:08

having a war so what we are in effect reduced to at the moment so far as Wars 01:12:08

reduced to at the moment so far as Wars 01:12:10

reduced to at the moment so far as Wars are concerned our experimental Wars was 01:12:10

are concerned our experimental Wars was 01:12:15

are concerned our experimental Wars was under small in small areas against 01:12:15

under small in small areas against 01:12:18

under small in small areas against people who allegedly don't matter very 01:12:18

people who allegedly don't matter very 01:12:20

people who allegedly don't matter very much in order to test out our military 01:12:20

much in order to test out our military 01:12:22

much in order to test out our military materials and techniques because nobody 01:12:22

materials and techniques because nobody 01:12:26

materials and techniques because nobody can afford to keep a large standing army 01:12:26

can afford to keep a large standing army 01:12:28

can afford to keep a large standing army in which there are no veterans so they 01:12:28

in which there are no veterans so they 01:12:33

in which there are no veterans so they must have practice and so practice wars 01:12:33

must have practice and so practice wars 01:12:35

must have practice and so practice wars are carefully arranged but increasingly 01:12:35

are carefully arranged but increasingly 01:12:39

are carefully arranged but increasingly you see they find that these practice 01:12:39

you see they find that these practice 01:12:41

you see they find that these practice wars arouse passions and disturb 01:12:41

wars arouse passions and disturb 01:12:44

wars arouse passions and disturb everybody in all directions because 01:12:44

everybody in all directions because 01:12:46

everybody in all directions because there is no such thing as an unimportant 01:12:46

there is no such thing as an unimportant 01:12:48

there is no such thing as an unimportant people and so they become increasingly 01:12:48

people and so they become increasingly 01:12:52

people and so they become increasingly difficult to carry on so fuller is 01:12:52

difficult to carry on so fuller is 01:12:56

difficult to carry on so fuller is extraordinarily hopeful about the future 01:12:56

extraordinarily hopeful about the future 01:12:58

extraordinarily hopeful about the future of mankind because he feels that the 01:12:58

of mankind because he feels that the 01:13:01

of mankind because he feels that the synergy the quality of intelligence in 01:13:01

synergy the quality of intelligence in 01:13:03

synergy the quality of intelligence in the total system will overcome the folly 01:13:03

the total system will overcome the folly 01:13:07

the total system will overcome the folly of individuals or of parts who are 01:13:07

of individuals or of parts who are 01:13:11

of individuals or of parts who are unable to act with full understanding of 01:13:11

unable to act with full understanding of 01:13:13

unable to act with full understanding of what's going on 01:13:13

what's going on 01:13:14

what's going on and you see this is a serious problem so 01:13:14

and you see this is a serious problem so 01:13:18

and you see this is a serious problem so far as the individual is concerned 01:13:18

far as the individual is concerned 01:13:19

far as the individual is concerned because today not only is there a 01:13:19

because today not only is there a 01:13:23

because today not only is there a population bomb there's also an 01:13:23

population bomb there's also an 01:13:25

population bomb there's also an information bomb the proliferation of 01:13:25

information bomb the proliferation of 01:13:29

information bomb the proliferation of information about everything is so great 01:13:29

information about everything is so great 01:13:32

information about everything is so great that no individual can possibly grasp it 01:13:32

that no individual can possibly grasp it 01:13:35

that no individual can possibly grasp it not only has he difficulty in grasping 01:13:35

not only has he difficulty in grasping 01:13:38

not only has he difficulty in grasping it but there is difficulty even for big 01:13:38

it but there is difficulty even for big 01:13:41

it but there is difficulty even for big committees to organize this information 01:13:41

committees to organize this information 01:13:43

committees to organize this information to integrate it in such a way that if I 01:13:43

to integrate it in such a way that if I 01:13:46

to integrate it in such a way that if I need to know a certain thing I can 01:13:46

need to know a certain thing I can 01:13:48

need to know a certain thing I can various 01:13:48

various 01:13:49

various we find it out for an individual 01:13:49

we find it out for an individual 01:13:53

we find it out for an individual untrained in physics it's very difficult 01:13:53

untrained in physics it's very difficult 01:13:56

untrained in physics it's very difficult to find out quickly about physics 01:13:56

to find out quickly about physics 01:13:59

to find out quickly about physics because physics is expressed in a 01:13:59

because physics is expressed in a 01:14:01

because physics is expressed in a mathematical language which he probably 01:14:01

mathematical language which he probably 01:14:02

mathematical language which he probably has never learned to read so the time 01:14:02

has never learned to read so the time 01:14:08

has never learned to read so the time lag in scanning you see all 01:14:08

lag in scanning you see all 01:14:11

lag in scanning you see all consciousness is a matter of scanning 01:14:11

consciousness is a matter of scanning 01:14:13

consciousness is a matter of scanning and it takes in the totality of events 01:14:13

and it takes in the totality of events 01:14:17

and it takes in the totality of events in the world by a sweeping motion like 01:14:17

in the world by a sweeping motion like 01:14:21

in the world by a sweeping motion like the glance of our eyes around the room 01:14:21

the glance of our eyes around the room 01:14:23

the glance of our eyes around the room well it takes time to glance your eyes 01:14:23

well it takes time to glance your eyes 01:14:27

well it takes time to glance your eyes around the room and register what's 01:14:27

around the room and register what's 01:14:29

around the room and register what's there if you want to remember it 01:14:29

there if you want to remember it 01:14:31

there if you want to remember it consciously so what we are saying is 01:14:31

consciously so what we are saying is 01:14:35

consciously so what we are saying is that the intelligence of the system the 01:14:35

that the intelligence of the system the 01:14:38

that the intelligence of the system the synergy is more intelligent than any 01:14:38

synergy is more intelligent than any 01:14:42

synergy is more intelligent than any individual consciousness can be but of 01:14:42

individual consciousness can be but of 01:14:46

individual consciousness can be but of course as a living organism you are much 01:14:46

course as a living organism you are much 01:14:49

course as a living organism you are much more than consciousness in this scanning 01:14:49

more than consciousness in this scanning 01:14:52

more than consciousness in this scanning sense because you certainly don't 01:14:52

sense because you certainly don't 01:14:56

sense because you certainly don't arrange the complexities of your own 01:14:56

arrange the complexities of your own 01:14:58

arrange the complexities of your own brain by conscious decision that's 01:14:58

brain by conscious decision that's 01:15:01

brain by conscious decision that's something that you grow or we could put 01:15:01

something that you grow or we could put 01:15:06

something that you grow or we could put it this way that the intelligence of the 01:15:06

it this way that the intelligence of the 01:15:08

it this way that the intelligence of the universe grows as it grows you but here 01:15:08

universe grows as it grows you but here 01:15:13

universe grows as it grows you but here again is another hurdle for the average 01:15:13

again is another hurdle for the average 01:15:16

again is another hurdle for the average Westerner whose common sense is derived 01:15:16

Westerner whose common sense is derived 01:15:19

Westerner whose common sense is derived from the philosophy of science current 01:15:19

from the philosophy of science current 01:15:20

from the philosophy of science current in the 19th century of thinking that the 01:15:20

in the 19th century of thinking that the 01:15:24

in the 19th century of thinking that the organization of the universe is 01:15:24

organization of the universe is 01:15:26

organization of the universe is intelligent that seems to us to echo of 01:15:26

intelligent that seems to us to echo of 01:15:31

intelligent that seems to us to echo of theism of God ideas where God is based 01:15:31

theism of God ideas where God is based 01:15:35

theism of God ideas where God is based on an anthropomorphic or man-like image 01:15:35

on an anthropomorphic or man-like image 01:15:37

on an anthropomorphic or man-like image the old gentleman with whiskers in the 01:15:37

the old gentleman with whiskers in the 01:15:40

the old gentleman with whiskers in the sky and of course that God is dead 01:15:40

sky and of course that God is dead 01:15:44

sky and of course that God is dead beyond recall but that's not the only 01:15:44

beyond recall but that's not the only 01:15:49

beyond recall but that's not the only kind of God 01:15:49

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to think of the universe itself its vast 01:15:52

to think of the universe itself its vast 01:15:55

to think of the universe itself its vast and complex organization as being 01:15:55

and complex organization as being 01:15:58

and complex organization as being intelligent what on earth does that mean 01:15:58

intelligent what on earth does that mean 01:16:00

intelligent what on earth does that mean what do you mean by the word intelligent 01:16:00

01:16:06

well when you come to think of it it's 01:16:06

well when you come to think of it it's 01:16:08

well when you come to think of it it's my most difficult word to define 01:16:08

my most difficult word to define 01:16:11

my most difficult word to define everybody knows what it is but very few 01:16:11

everybody knows what it is but very few 01:16:14

everybody knows what it is but very few can say it's like you know what love is 01:16:14

can say it's like you know what love is 01:16:17

can say it's like you know what love is but just try and define it you know what 01:16:17

but just try and define it you know what 01:16:21

but just try and define it you know what time is but try and define that space 01:16:21

time is but try and define that space 01:16:26

time is but try and define that space everybody knows what space is but it's 01:16:26

everybody knows what space is but it's 01:16:28

everybody knows what space is but it's the most difficult thing to pin down and 01:16:28

the most difficult thing to pin down and 01:16:30

the most difficult thing to pin down and that's equally true of intelligence we 01:16:30

that's equally true of intelligence we 01:16:34

that's equally true of intelligence we can see certain elements in intelligence 01:16:34

can see certain elements in intelligence 01:16:36

can see certain elements in intelligence we can see complexity as an element of 01:16:36

we can see complexity as an element of 01:16:39

we can see complexity as an element of it we can see our complexity as what we 01:16:39

it we can see our complexity as what we 01:16:47

it we can see our complexity as what we call an orderly arrangement of different 01:16:47

call an orderly arrangement of different 01:16:51

call an orderly arrangement of different clusters of complexity but again we're 01:16:51

clusters of complexity but again we're 01:16:57

clusters of complexity but again we're using words all of which are imprecise 01:16:57

using words all of which are imprecise 01:17:01

using words all of which are imprecise what do you mean orderly that's 01:17:01

what do you mean orderly that's 01:17:04

what do you mean orderly that's practically to say it's all in order it 01:17:04

practically to say it's all in order it 01:17:07

practically to say it's all in order it was almost like saying it's 01:17:07

was almost like saying it's 01:17:09

was almost like saying it's intelligently arranged we recognize 01:17:09

intelligently arranged we recognize 01:17:13

intelligently arranged we recognize these things but we are not quite sure 01:17:13

these things but we are not quite sure 01:17:16

these things but we are not quite sure what we mean by them but we recognize 01:17:16

what we mean by them but we recognize 01:17:19

what we mean by them but we recognize them at once and for example if we begin 01:17:19

them at once and for example if we begin 01:17:22

them at once and for example if we begin with the pure hypothesis that we 01:17:22

with the pure hypothesis that we 01:17:26

with the pure hypothesis that we ourselves are intelligent and let it go 01:17:26

ourselves are intelligent and let it go 01:17:29

ourselves are intelligent and let it go at that if we are not then nothing is 01:17:29

at that if we are not then nothing is 01:17:35

at that if we are not then nothing is but let's for the sake of argument say 01:17:35

but let's for the sake of argument say 01:17:37

but let's for the sake of argument say that we human beings are intelligent now 01:17:37

that we human beings are intelligent now 01:17:44

that we human beings are intelligent now if that is so then the environment in 01:17:44

if that is so then the environment in 01:17:50

if that is so then the environment in which we live must also be intelligent 01:17:50

01:17:55

because we are symptoms of that 01:17:55

because we are symptoms of that 01:17:59

because we are symptoms of that environment and I don't for the life of 01:17:59

environment and I don't for the life of 01:18:01

environment and I don't for the life of me see how you can tell have 01:18:01

me see how you can tell have 01:18:04

me see how you can tell have intelligent symptoms of an unintelligent 01:18:04

intelligent symptoms of an unintelligent 01:18:07

intelligent symptoms of an unintelligent organization we belong in this world we 01:18:07

organization we belong in this world we 01:18:20

organization we belong in this world we didn't arrive here from someone else 01:18:20

didn't arrive here from someone else 01:18:22

didn't arrive here from someone else somewhere else we're not tourists in the 01:18:22

somewhere else we're not tourists in the 01:18:24

somewhere else we're not tourists in the universe 01:18:24

universe 01:18:26

universe we're expressions of it like branches 01:18:26

we're expressions of it like branches 01:18:30

we're expressions of it like branches express the tree of fruit express the 01:18:30

express the tree of fruit express the 01:18:34

express the tree of fruit express the tree and so you will not find an 01:18:34

tree and so you will not find an 01:18:39

tree and so you will not find an intelligent organism living in an 01:18:39

intelligent organism living in an 01:18:44

intelligent organism living in an unintelligent environment that is to say 01:18:44

unintelligent environment that is to say 01:18:48

unintelligent environment that is to say the environment in which you live will 01:18:48

the environment in which you live will 01:18:52

the environment in which you live will be a system of mutual cooperation 01:18:52

be a system of mutual cooperation 01:18:55

be a system of mutual cooperation between a vast complexity of different 01:18:55

between a vast complexity of different 01:18:58

between a vast complexity of different kinds of organisms and the total balance 01:18:58

kinds of organisms and the total balance 01:19:03

kinds of organisms and the total balance of that makes your life possible in 01:19:03

of that makes your life possible in 01:19:10

of that makes your life possible in other words human life goes with as 01:19:10

other words human life goes with as 01:19:15

other words human life goes with as front goes with back an extremely 01:19:15

front goes with back an extremely 01:19:18

front goes with back an extremely complex bacteriological world which 01:19:18

complex bacteriological world which 01:19:23

complex bacteriological world which sometimes diseases us but most of the 01:19:23

sometimes diseases us but most of the 01:19:28

sometimes diseases us but most of the time assists us by its colonies its 01:19:28

time assists us by its colonies its 01:19:33

time assists us by its colonies its societies its methods of reproduction 01:19:33

societies its methods of reproduction 01:19:36

societies its methods of reproduction all these complex interrelations are the 01:19:36

all these complex interrelations are the 01:19:41

all these complex interrelations are the which without which not the scene a 01:19:42

which without which not the scene a 01:19:45

which without which not the scene a quinone of their being blood and veins 01:19:45

quinone of their being blood and veins 01:19:48

quinone of their being blood and veins and bones and intestines and all that 01:19:48

and bones and intestines and all that 01:19:51

and bones and intestines and all that kind of thing that's only the 01:19:51

kind of thing that's only the 01:19:52

kind of thing that's only the bacteriological world in addition to 01:19:52

bacteriological world in addition to 01:19:55

bacteriological world in addition to that there's a world of insects which is 01:19:55

that there's a world of insects which is 01:19:57

that there's a world of insects which is tremendously important to us but the 01:19:57

tremendously important to us but the 01:20:00

tremendously important to us but the insects are extremely clever and if you 01:20:00

insects are extremely clever and if you 01:20:04

insects are extremely clever and if you talk to a good entomologist he will 01:20:04

talk to a good entomologist he will 01:20:06

talk to a good entomologist he will scare the Wits out of you because he 01:20:06

scare the Wits out of you because he 01:20:08

scare the Wits out of you because he will show you the most conclusive 01:20:08

will show you the most conclusive 01:20:10

will show you the most conclusive reasons why insects should ultimately 01:20:10

reasons why insects should ultimately 01:20:12

reasons why insects should ultimately take the whole planet over fortunately 01:20:12

take the whole planet over fortunately 01:20:16

take the whole planet over fortunately we are not 01:20:16

we are not 01:20:18

we are not absolutely abominated by flies because 01:20:18

absolutely abominated by flies because 01:20:20

absolutely abominated by flies because we have lots of spiders and we have 01:20:20

we have lots of spiders and we have 01:20:24

we have lots of spiders and we have birds and so birds and insects are 01:20:24

birds and so birds and insects are 01:20:29

birds and so birds and insects are mutually necessary to each other and 01:20:29

mutually necessary to each other and 01:20:33

mutually necessary to each other and especially flowers and insects have an 01:20:33

especially flowers and insects have an 01:20:37

especially flowers and insects have an arrangement with each other 01:20:37

arrangement with each other 01:20:38

arrangement with each other whereby one could say our flowers and 01:20:38

whereby one could say our flowers and 01:20:41

whereby one could say our flowers and bees that although they look very 01:20:41

bees that although they look very 01:20:43

bees that although they look very different they are one in the same 01:20:43

different they are one in the same 01:20:45

different they are one in the same organism flowers perfume and color bees 01:20:45

organism flowers perfume and color bees 01:20:53

organism flowers perfume and color bees buzz and fly around but you can't have 01:20:53

buzz and fly around but you can't have 01:20:59

buzz and fly around but you can't have the flowers of without the bees and you 01:20:59

the flowers of without the bees and you 01:21:01

the flowers of without the bees and you can't have the bees without the flowers 01:21:01

can't have the bees without the flowers 01:21:02

can't have the bees without the flowers and so you can think through 01:21:02

and so you can think through 01:21:06

and so you can think through relationships between every conceivable 01:21:06

relationships between every conceivable 01:21:09

relationships between every conceivable kind of organism into which you must add 01:21:09

kind of organism into which you must add 01:21:13

kind of organism into which you must add things like atmosphere qualities gas 01:21:13

things like atmosphere qualities gas 01:21:15

things like atmosphere qualities gas content of atmosphere on and on and on 01:21:15

content of atmosphere on and on and on 01:21:18

content of atmosphere on and on and on until you suddenly realize that what you 01:21:18

until you suddenly realize that what you 01:21:21

until you suddenly realize that what you call your mind and intelligence and your 01:21:21

call your mind and intelligence and your 01:21:23

call your mind and intelligence and your very brain and body is utterly involved 01:21:23

very brain and body is utterly involved 01:21:28

very brain and body is utterly involved with this network of other kinds of 01:21:28

with this network of other kinds of 01:21:30

with this network of other kinds of organisms existing at a special 01:21:30

organisms existing at a special 01:21:33

organisms existing at a special temperature in certain gases which could 01:21:33

temperature in certain gases which could 01:21:37

temperature in certain gases which could only be found in certain kinds of solar 01:21:37

only be found in certain kinds of solar 01:21:39

only be found in certain kinds of solar system now then seeing that should give 01:21:39

system now then seeing that should give 01:21:46

system now then seeing that should give every technologist pause because you 01:21:46

every technologist pause because you 01:21:51

every technologist pause because you can't go running into that situation 01:21:51

can't go running into that situation 01:21:52

can't go running into that situation with penicillin and DDT unless unless 01:21:52

with penicillin and DDT unless unless 01:21:58

with penicillin and DDT unless unless you know very well when to stop unless 01:21:58

you know very well when to stop unless 01:22:03

you know very well when to stop unless you know unless you can be very 01:22:03

you know unless you can be very 01:22:05

you know unless you can be very discriminating just what surplus of 01:22:05

discriminating just what surplus of 01:22:07

discriminating just what surplus of insects you want to get rid of without 01:22:07

insects you want to get rid of without 01:22:10

insects you want to get rid of without killing the other ones that are 01:22:10

killing the other ones that are 01:22:11

killing the other ones that are important how to give penicillin without 01:22:11

important how to give penicillin without 01:22:14

important how to give penicillin without destroying all the stomach flora and 01:22:14

destroying all the stomach flora and 01:22:18

destroying all the stomach flora and having to build them up again on 01:22:18

having to build them up again on 01:22:19

having to build them up again on acidophilus and stuff so this is why in 01:22:19

acidophilus and stuff so this is why in 01:22:25

acidophilus and stuff so this is why in the taoist chinese view of nature and 01:22:25

the taoist chinese view of nature and 01:22:28

the taoist chinese view of nature and the relation of nature to human polity 01:22:28

the relation of nature to human polity 01:22:31

the relation of nature to human polity they set us fundamental the principal 01:22:31

they set us fundamental the principal 01:22:34

they set us fundamental the principal called whoo weh-weh 01:22:34

01:22:54

which means our non-interference not 01:22:54

which means our non-interference not 01:23:00

which means our non-interference not quite what we mean by less affair but 01:23:00

quite what we mean by less affair but 01:23:03

quite what we mean by less affair but rather close to it that is to say when 01:23:03

rather close to it that is to say when 01:23:07

rather close to it that is to say when you act upon nature and you must you 01:23:07

you act upon nature and you must you 01:23:12

you act upon nature and you must you can't help but interfere there's no way 01:23:12

can't help but interfere there's no way 01:23:14

can't help but interfere there's no way of isolating yourself from the world 01:23:14

of isolating yourself from the world 01:23:17

of isolating yourself from the world every time you breathe you interfere 01:23:17

every time you breathe you interfere 01:23:19

every time you breathe you interfere with something see about the art of Wu 01:23:19

with something see about the art of Wu 01:23:23

with something see about the art of Wu Wei is that when you interfere endeavor 01:23:23

Wei is that when you interfere endeavor 01:23:27

Wei is that when you interfere endeavor to do so by going with the grain of 01:23:27

to do so by going with the grain of 01:23:30

to do so by going with the grain of things in other words if you want a 01:23:30

things in other words if you want a 01:23:33

things in other words if you want a split would split it with the grain 01:23:33

split would split it with the grain 01:23:35

split would split it with the grain don't try to split it across the grain 01:23:35

don't try to split it across the grain 01:23:38

don't try to split it across the grain and likewise when you want to pick a 01:23:38

and likewise when you want to pick a 01:23:40

and likewise when you want to pick a fight don't use violence but use the 01:23:40

fight don't use violence but use the 01:23:45

fight don't use violence but use the other person's violence to bring about 01:23:45

other person's violence to bring about 01:23:46

other person's violence to bring about his downfall 01:23:46

his downfall 01:23:47

his downfall that's judo and that judo is applied 01:23:47

that's judo and that judo is applied 01:23:50

that's judo and that judo is applied will way sailing is Wu Wei as distinct 01:23:50

will way sailing is Wu Wei as distinct 01:23:58

will way sailing is Wu Wei as distinct from rowing which isn't so then 01:23:58

01:24:06

the Daoists you see recognized that 01:24:06

the Daoists you see recognized that 01:24:12

the Daoists you see recognized that there is this Universal organism and 01:24:12

there is this Universal organism and 01:24:15

there is this Universal organism and they thought of the cosmos as a great 01:24:15

they thought of the cosmos as a great 01:24:19

they thought of the cosmos as a great organism without a boss there is no one 01:24:19

organism without a boss there is no one 01:24:24

organism without a boss there is no one in Chinese philosophy making the world 01:24:24

in Chinese philosophy making the world 01:24:26

in Chinese philosophy making the world happening or ordering it there is no as 01:24:26

happening or ordering it there is no as 01:24:30

happening or ordering it there is no as it were central principle in the middle 01:24:30

it were central principle in the middle 01:24:33

it were central principle in the middle which sends out commands to all the 01:24:33

which sends out commands to all the 01:24:37

which sends out commands to all the subordinate parts but rather that the 01:24:37

subordinate parts but rather that the 01:24:41

subordinate parts but rather that the thing organizes itself their word for 01:24:41

thing organizes itself their word for 01:24:44

thing organizes itself their word for nature being run meaning what is so of 01:24:44

nature being run meaning what is so of 01:24:47

nature being run meaning what is so of itself so they saw the whole cosmos as a 01:24:47

itself so they saw the whole cosmos as a 01:24:54

itself so they saw the whole cosmos as a self-regulating organism and they 01:24:54

self-regulating organism and they 01:24:56

self-regulating organism and they further saw that the individual is not 01:24:56

further saw that the individual is not 01:24:58

further saw that the individual is not merely a part of that organism he is a 01:24:58

merely a part of that organism he is a 01:25:05

merely a part of that organism he is a an expression of the whole thing and the 01:25:05

an expression of the whole thing and the 01:25:10

an expression of the whole thing and the whole depends upon this expression just 01:25:10

whole depends upon this expression just 01:25:12

whole depends upon this expression just as much as the expression depends upon 01:25:12

as much as the expression depends upon 01:25:14

as much as the expression depends upon it and that was the principle of mutual 01:25:14

it and that was the principle of mutual 01:25:17

it and that was the principle of mutual interpenetration which is called in well 01:25:17

interpenetration which is called in well 01:25:23

interpenetration which is called in well it's more familiarly known by its 01:25:23

it's more familiarly known by its 01:25:24

it's more familiarly known by its Japanese name GG muguet the principle of 01:25:24

Japanese name GG muguet the principle of 01:25:31

Japanese name GG muguet the principle of the network between thing event and 01:25:31

the network between thing event and 01:25:33

the network between thing event and thing event there is no obstruction 01:25:33

01:25:43

but you see it remains to us a bit of a 01:25:43

but you see it remains to us a bit of a 01:25:47

but you see it remains to us a bit of a puzzle to say that all this is an 01:25:47

puzzle to say that all this is an 01:25:51

puzzle to say that all this is an intelligence because we can think of all 01:25:51

intelligence because we can think of all 01:25:52

intelligence because we can think of all kinds of objections to it we could think 01:25:52

kinds of objections to it we could think 01:25:57

kinds of objections to it we could think if by some conscious science we were 01:25:57

if by some conscious science we were 01:26:00

if by some conscious science we were able to construct the universe we would 01:26:00

able to construct the universe we would 01:26:03

able to construct the universe we would do it a little differently we would have 01:26:03

do it a little differently we would have 01:26:07

do it a little differently we would have improvements too just to suggest the pom 01:26:07

improvements too just to suggest the pom 01:26:09

improvements too just to suggest the pom mosquitoes we would perhaps a great a 01:26:09

mosquitoes we would perhaps a great a 01:26:13

mosquitoes we would perhaps a great a great surgeon might suggest that the 01:26:13

great surgeon might suggest that the 01:26:17

great surgeon might suggest that the human body be organized a little 01:26:17

human body be organized a little 01:26:18

human body be organized a little differently we can think of dozens of 01:26:18

differently we can think of dozens of 01:26:23

differently we can think of dozens of things but you'll find that curious 01:26:23

things but you'll find that curious 01:26:26

things but you'll find that curious thing is this when you try to think out 01:26:26

thing is this when you try to think out 01:26:29

thing is this when you try to think out carefully how to improve the world and 01:26:29

carefully how to improve the world and 01:26:32

carefully how to improve the world and then you realize is what the 01:26:32

then you realize is what the 01:26:34

then you realize is what the consequences of your suggestion would be 01:26:34

consequences of your suggestion would be 01:26:36

consequences of your suggestion would be you wouldn't like all of the 01:26:36

you wouldn't like all of the 01:26:38

you wouldn't like all of the consequences hence the saying be careful 01:26:38

consequences hence the saying be careful 01:26:42

consequences hence the saying be careful of what you desire you may get it and 01:26:42

of what you desire you may get it and 01:26:51

of what you desire you may get it and then one invites the individual and this 01:26:51

then one invites the individual and this 01:26:55

then one invites the individual and this is one of the great great things to do 01:26:55

is one of the great great things to do 01:26:58

is one of the great great things to do to suggest another kind of universe 01:26:58

01:27:03

what kind of universe would you design 01:27:03

what kind of universe would you design 01:27:06

what kind of universe would you design if you were God and I recommend I'm not 01:27:06

if you were God and I recommend I'm not 01:27:13

if you were God and I recommend I'm not going to go into this because it's a 01:27:13

going to go into this because it's a 01:27:14

going to go into this because it's a long story but I thoroughly recommend it 01:27:14

long story but I thoroughly recommend it 01:27:18

long story but I thoroughly recommend it as an exercise in thought 01:27:18

as an exercise in thought 01:27:19

as an exercise in thought model your own universe and see what 01:27:19

model your own universe and see what 01:27:22

model your own universe and see what comes out of it because I can only tell 01:27:22

comes out of it because I can only tell 01:27:26

comes out of it because I can only tell you that you will eventually discover 01:27:26

you that you will eventually discover 01:27:28

you that you will eventually discover that you will model this one 01:27:28

01:27:35

and you'll find out you see that they 01:27:35

and you'll find out you see that they 01:27:39

and you'll find out you see that they that it's based on certain absolutely 01:27:39

that it's based on certain absolutely 01:27:42

that it's based on certain absolutely fundamental principles which of course 01:27:42

fundamental principles which of course 01:27:44

fundamental principles which of course includes the game of hide-and-seek now 01:27:44

includes the game of hide-and-seek now 01:27:47

includes the game of hide-and-seek now you see it now you don't which is 01:27:47

you see it now you don't which is 01:27:49

you see it now you don't which is vibration which is the same thing as 01:27:49

vibration which is the same thing as 01:27:50

vibration which is the same thing as energy you've got to begin with that 01:27:50

energy you've got to begin with that 01:27:52

energy you've got to begin with that with that if once you start with that it 01:27:52

with that if once you start with that it 01:27:55

with that if once you start with that it implies the rest because all that we see 01:27:55

implies the rest because all that we see 01:28:00

implies the rest because all that we see around us is just a fantastic 01:28:00

around us is just a fantastic 01:28:03

around us is just a fantastic combination of black and white elements 01:28:03

combination of black and white elements 01:28:05

combination of black and white elements of what the Chinese call the yin in the 01:28:05

of what the Chinese call the yin in the 01:28:07

of what the Chinese call the yin in the end the negative and positive forces and 01:28:07

end the negative and positive forces and 01:28:11

end the negative and positive forces and it all leads to this but in an 01:28:11

it all leads to this but in an 01:28:15

it all leads to this but in an incredible so then you have difficulty 01:28:15

incredible so then you have difficulty 01:28:25

incredible so then you have difficulty though of course in seeing the world as 01:28:25

though of course in seeing the world as 01:28:27

though of course in seeing the world as an organism because when you look out at 01:28:27

an organism because when you look out at 01:28:31

an organism because when you look out at the Stars you are in roughly the same 01:28:31

the Stars you are in roughly the same 01:28:37

the Stars you are in roughly the same situation or relationship to what you 01:28:37

situation or relationship to what you 01:28:40

situation or relationship to what you are seeing as when a physicist studies 01:28:40

are seeing as when a physicist studies 01:28:45

are seeing as when a physicist studies the constitution of the atom 01:28:45

the constitution of the atom 01:28:48

the constitution of the atom he will make a map of the behavior of 01:28:48

he will make a map of the behavior of 01:28:53

he will make a map of the behavior of the nucleus in which there will be 01:28:53

the nucleus in which there will be 01:28:56

the nucleus in which there will be various rotating particles or wavicles 01:28:56

various rotating particles or wavicles 01:29:00

various rotating particles or wavicles and you will see something which looks 01:29:00

and you will see something which looks 01:29:03

and you will see something which looks like a mathematical design and doesn't 01:29:03

like a mathematical design and doesn't 01:29:05

like a mathematical design and doesn't look like an organism because we expect 01:29:05

look like an organism because we expect 01:29:10

look like an organism because we expect an organism to be a kind of gooey thing 01:29:10

an organism to be a kind of gooey thing 01:29:13

an organism to be a kind of gooey thing with blood and flesh and wriggles and so 01:29:13

with blood and flesh and wriggles and so 01:29:18

with blood and flesh and wriggles and so on so if you looked only through the 01:29:18

on so if you looked only through the 01:29:23

on so if you looked only through the microscope now you wouldn't see the 01:29:23

microscope now you wouldn't see the 01:29:26

microscope now you wouldn't see the organism well when we look out at the 01:29:26

organism well when we look out at the 01:29:29

organism well when we look out at the rest of the universe we are as it were 01:29:29

rest of the universe we are as it were 01:29:31

rest of the universe we are as it were sitting down on one of those electrons 01:29:31

sitting down on one of those electrons 01:29:33

sitting down on one of those electrons looking through a microscope at the rest 01:29:33

looking through a microscope at the rest 01:29:36

looking through a microscope at the rest of it and therefore we don't see the 01:29:36

of it and therefore we don't see the 01:29:39

of it and therefore we don't see the sort of the total design it makes up 01:29:39

sort of the total design it makes up 01:29:42

sort of the total design it makes up that's much too far away from our 01:29:42

that's much too far away from our 01:29:44

that's much too far away from our conscious inspection 01:29:44

conscious inspection 01:29:46

conscious inspection and this is one of the reasons then why 01:29:46

and this is one of the reasons then why 01:29:49

and this is one of the reasons then why it's difficult for us to formulate the 01:29:49

it's difficult for us to formulate the 01:29:51

it's difficult for us to formulate the idea that there is an intelligence 01:29:51

idea that there is an intelligence 01:29:53

idea that there is an intelligence operating here because all we see is the 01:29:53

operating here because all we see is the 01:29:56

operating here because all we see is the firework display this tremendous display 01:29:56

firework display this tremendous display 01:30:00

firework display this tremendous display of radioactive mud and gas and one would 01:30:00

of radioactive mud and gas and one would 01:30:05

of radioactive mud and gas and one would say well that's sir it's just a is this 01:30:05

say well that's sir it's just a is this 01:30:08

say well that's sir it's just a is this just a kind of a contraption that 01:30:08

just a kind of a contraption that 01:30:12

just a kind of a contraption that happened to arrive there and that's all 01:30:12

happened to arrive there and that's all 01:30:18

happened to arrive there and that's all there is to it but the funny thing about 01:30:18

there is to it but the funny thing about 01:30:25

there is to it but the funny thing about man is that he can put himself down and 01:30:25

man is that he can put himself down and 01:30:30

man is that he can put himself down and say that he is an accident a kind of 01:30:30

say that he is an accident a kind of 01:30:34

say that he is an accident a kind of colloidal chemical accident that 01:30:34

colloidal chemical accident that 01:30:37

colloidal chemical accident that occurred on this very unimportant rock 01:30:37

01:30:41

rotating around a lesser star on the 01:30:41

rotating around a lesser star on the 01:30:46

rotating around a lesser star on the fringe of one of the minor galaxies and 01:30:46

fringe of one of the minor galaxies and 01:30:49

fringe of one of the minor galaxies and that this is where we are and that the 01:30:49

that this is where we are and that the 01:30:54

that this is where we are and that the universe does not give a damn about it 01:30:54

01:30:59

yet that the odd thing is that 01:30:59

01:31:07

this wretched little kemon chemical 01:31:07

this wretched little kemon chemical 01:31:11

this wretched little kemon chemical thing can reflect an image of the whole 01:31:11

thing can reflect an image of the whole 01:31:15

thing can reflect an image of the whole cosmos in its vastness inside his head 01:31:15

cosmos in its vastness inside his head 01:31:19

cosmos in its vastness inside his head and can know he's there and that means 01:31:19

and can know he's there and that means 01:31:27

and can know he's there and that means though that this thing however small in 01:31:27

though that this thing however small in 01:31:30

though that this thing however small in dimensions is vast in comprehension and 01:31:30

dimensions is vast in comprehension and 01:31:35

dimensions is vast in comprehension and what scale are you going to attach the 01:31:35

what scale are you going to attach the 01:31:38

what scale are you going to attach the word importance to near size or degree 01:31:38

word importance to near size or degree 01:31:44

word importance to near size or degree of comprehension by degree of 01:31:44

of comprehension by degree of 01:31:48

of comprehension by degree of comprehension man is huge by that scale 01:31:48

01:31:56

so then if the principle is simply that 01:31:56

so then if the principle is simply that 01:32:02

so then if the principle is simply that if we can see from a perfectly physical 01:32:02

if we can see from a perfectly physical 01:32:05

if we can see from a perfectly physical point of view what we recall is strictly 01:32:05

point of view what we recall is strictly 01:32:07

point of view what we recall is strictly a scientific point of view that the 01:32:07

a scientific point of view that the 01:32:10

a scientific point of view that the individual organism goes with its 01:32:10

individual organism goes with its 01:32:14

individual organism goes with its environment in just the same way as bees 01:32:14

environment in just the same way as bees 01:32:17

environment in just the same way as bees go with flowers and flowers in their 01:32:17

go with flowers and flowers in their 01:32:21

go with flowers and flowers in their turn go with grubs and grubs in their 01:32:21

turn go with grubs and grubs in their 01:32:26

turn go with grubs and grubs in their turn go with birds and so on all the way 01:32:26

turn go with birds and so on all the way 01:32:30

turn go with birds and so on all the way through then when you want to define 01:32:30

through then when you want to define 01:32:33

through then when you want to define yourself you cannot say that I am just 01:32:33

yourself you cannot say that I am just 01:32:37

yourself you cannot say that I am just what is inside the skin because what is 01:32:37

what is inside the skin because what is 01:32:42

what is inside the skin because what is inside the skin goes with everything 01:32:42

inside the skin goes with everything 01:32:44

inside the skin goes with everything outside it and constitutes a single 01:32:44

outside it and constitutes a single 01:32:48

outside it and constitutes a single complex field of diversified behaviors 01:32:48

complex field of diversified behaviors 01:32:55

complex field of diversified behaviors diversified processes you look at that 01:32:55

diversified processes you look at that 01:32:58

diversified processes you look at that then from a strictly physical point of 01:32:59

then from a strictly physical point of 01:33:01

then from a strictly physical point of view and there it is this network but 01:33:01

view and there it is this network but 01:33:05

view and there it is this network but then the trouble comes up is you say 01:33:05

then the trouble comes up is you say 01:33:08

then the trouble comes up is you say when you've studied that and you read 01:33:08

when you've studied that and you read 01:33:09

when you've studied that and you read all the books on ecology and botany and 01:33:09

all the books on ecology and botany and 01:33:11

all the books on ecology and botany and zoology astronomy and so on 01:33:11

zoology astronomy and so on 01:33:15

zoology astronomy and so on you say yes I see that now that's quite 01:33:15

you say yes I see that now that's quite 01:33:18

you say yes I see that now that's quite true theoretically 01:33:18

true theoretically 01:33:22

true theoretically but I would like to be able to feel that 01:33:22

but I would like to be able to feel that 01:33:24

but I would like to be able to feel that this is so as Mystics report that they 01:33:24

this is so as Mystics report that they 01:33:28

this is so as Mystics report that they have felt it to have that kind of 01:33:28

have felt it to have that kind of 01:33:34

have felt it to have that kind of experience in which the network is 01:33:34

experience in which the network is 01:33:37

experience in which the network is absolutely clear because you see if we 01:33:37

absolutely clear because you see if we 01:33:45

absolutely clear because you see if we don't take it that far if we know about 01:33:45

don't take it that far if we know about 01:33:48

don't take it that far if we know about it theoretically only the theoretical 01:33:48

it theoretically only the theoretical 01:33:51

it theoretically only the theoretical knowledge is not going to have much 01:33:51

knowledge is not going to have much 01:33:53

knowledge is not going to have much effect on what we do but knowledge of a 01:33:53

effect on what we do but knowledge of a 01:33:58

effect on what we do but knowledge of a more emotionally compelling nature will 01:33:58

more emotionally compelling nature will 01:34:01

more emotionally compelling nature will indeed affect the way we act with 01:34:01

indeed affect the way we act with 01:34:06

indeed affect the way we act with respect to our environment and may in 01:34:06

respect to our environment and may in 01:34:12

respect to our environment and may in fact prevent us from destroying our 01:34:12

fact prevent us from destroying our 01:34:15

fact prevent us from destroying our environment as we are now very busily 01:34:15

environment as we are now very busily 01:34:18

environment as we are now very busily doing it's interesting that the Congress 01:34:18

doing it's interesting that the Congress 01:34:23

doing it's interesting that the Congress of the United States recently passed an 01:34:23

of the United States recently passed an 01:34:27

of the United States recently passed an act making it a very serious offence to 01:34:27

act making it a very serious offence to 01:34:30

act making it a very serious offence to burn the American flag and they passed 01:34:30

burn the American flag and they passed 01:34:33

burn the American flag and they passed this act with many patriotic speeches 01:34:33

this act with many patriotic speeches 01:34:35

this act with many patriotic speeches and rhetoric and much reciting of poems 01:34:35

and rhetoric and much reciting of poems 01:34:40

and rhetoric and much reciting of poems this is the most fantastic example of 01:34:40

this is the most fantastic example of 01:34:45

this is the most fantastic example of American confusion between symbol and 01:34:45

American confusion between symbol and 01:34:48

American confusion between symbol and reality between menu and meal because 01:34:48

reality between menu and meal because 01:34:53

reality between menu and meal because this same Congress is directly or 01:34:53

this same Congress is directly or 01:34:57

this same Congress is directly or indirectly responsible for burning up 01:34:57

indirectly responsible for burning up 01:34:59

indirectly responsible for burning up what the flag stands for namely the 01:34:59

what the flag stands for namely the 01:35:02

what the flag stands for namely the geographical United States and its 01:35:02

geographical United States and its 01:35:04

geographical United States and its people by not really doing much about 01:35:04

people by not really doing much about 01:35:11

people by not really doing much about the devastation of our forests the 01:35:11

the devastation of our forests the 01:35:15

the devastation of our forests the pollution of our water and atmosphere 01:35:15

pollution of our water and atmosphere 01:35:17

pollution of our water and atmosphere the reckless waste of our natural 01:35:17

the reckless waste of our natural 01:35:20

the reckless waste of our natural resources and resorting to a form of 01:35:20

resources and resorting to a form of 01:35:23

resources and resorting to a form of economy which under any the same 01:35:23

economy which under any the same 01:35:29

economy which under any the same circumstances would be termed sheer 01:35:29

circumstances would be termed sheer 01:35:31

circumstances would be termed sheer lunacy 01:35:31

01:35:33

obviously they cannot distinguish 01:35:33

obviously they cannot distinguish 01:35:36

obviously they cannot distinguish between the symbol and the reality 01:35:36

between the symbol and the reality 01:35:39

between the symbol and the reality because we are all hypnotized with words 01:35:39

because we are all hypnotized with words 01:35:43

because we are all hypnotized with words and symbols and so when the flag is more 01:35:43

and symbols and so when the flag is more 01:35:49

and symbols and so when the flag is more precious than the country we are insane 01:35:49

01:35:57

when you say I love my country and what 01:35:57

when you say I love my country and what 01:36:01

when you say I love my country and what you mean by that as you feel certain 01:36:01

you mean by that as you feel certain 01:36:03

you mean by that as you feel certain emotions when you salute a flag you 01:36:03

emotions when you salute a flag you 01:36:04

emotions when you salute a flag you don't love your country at all because 01:36:04

don't love your country at all because 01:36:09

don't love your country at all because of the love of the country it means to 01:36:09

of the love of the country it means to 01:36:12

of the love of the country it means to participate in its life in a loving way 01:36:12

participate in its life in a loving way 01:36:15

participate in its life in a loving way in a considerate way and our floor our 01:36:15

in a considerate way and our floor our 01:36:21

in a considerate way and our floor our animals are in a certain sense members 01:36:21

animals are in a certain sense members 01:36:24

animals are in a certain sense members of the United States Birds bears all 01:36:24

of the United States Birds bears all 01:36:30

of the United States Birds bears all these lovely creatures and what we are 01:36:30

these lovely creatures and what we are 01:36:33

these lovely creatures and what we are doing is we are getting rid of birds at 01:36:33

doing is we are getting rid of birds at 01:36:35

doing is we are getting rid of birds at a fast rate we've reduced certain 01:36:35

a fast rate we've reduced certain 01:36:38

a fast rate we've reduced certain populations of birds by as much as 75% 01:36:38

populations of birds by as much as 75% 01:36:40

populations of birds by as much as 75% in the last few years because they eat 01:36:40

in the last few years because they eat 01:36:44

in the last few years because they eat are poisonous insecticides and so on and 01:36:44

are poisonous insecticides and so on and 01:36:48

are poisonous insecticides and so on and eventually they get into us that's love 01:36:48

eventually they get into us that's love 01:36:50

eventually they get into us that's love of country so as a result of this 01:36:50

of country so as a result of this 01:36:57

of country so as a result of this confusion you see and failure to see 01:36:58

confusion you see and failure to see 01:37:01

confusion you see and failure to see that the outside world is not a kind of 01:37:01

that the outside world is not a kind of 01:37:06

that the outside world is not a kind of chunk of mineral resources and cows to 01:37:06

chunk of mineral resources and cows to 01:37:10

chunk of mineral resources and cows to be exploited and be just eaten up if we 01:37:10

be exploited and be just eaten up if we 01:37:14

be exploited and be just eaten up if we do that we turn ourselves into a swarm 01:37:14

do that we turn ourselves into a swarm 01:37:15

do that we turn ourselves into a swarm of locusts on the planet the price for 01:37:15

of locusts on the planet the price for 01:37:20

of locusts on the planet the price for eating beef is that you must farm beef 01:37:20

eating beef is that you must farm beef 01:37:23

eating beef is that you must farm beef you must conduct husbandry you must melt 01:37:23

you must conduct husbandry you must melt 01:37:27

you must conduct husbandry you must melt it to help cattle to multiply and you 01:37:27

it to help cattle to multiply and you 01:37:29

it to help cattle to multiply and you must care for them properly the same 01:37:29

must care for them properly the same 01:37:33

must care for them properly the same with fishing we have not husbanded 01:37:33

with fishing we have not husbanded 01:37:36

with fishing we have not husbanded whales and therefore they're on their 01:37:36

whales and therefore they're on their 01:37:37

whales and therefore they're on their way to extinction this is the price that 01:37:37

way to extinction this is the price that 01:37:41

way to extinction this is the price that you've got to cherish the animals that 01:37:41

you've got to cherish the animals that 01:37:43

you've got to cherish the animals that you live off 01:37:43

you live off 01:37:45

you live off and then furthermore after that to put 01:37:45

and then furthermore after that to put 01:37:46

and then furthermore after that to put in my particular prejudice you've got to 01:37:46

in my particular prejudice you've got to 01:37:48

in my particular prejudice you've got to cook them properly you don't let's chew 01:37:48

cook them properly you don't let's chew 01:37:52

cook them properly you don't let's chew it up because it's supposed to give you 01:37:52

it up because it's supposed to give you 01:37:53

it up because it's supposed to give you energy it'd be good for you that's an 01:37:53

energy it'd be good for you that's an 01:37:56

energy it'd be good for you that's an irreverent use of dead animals and dead 01:37:56

irreverent use of dead animals and dead 01:37:58

irreverent use of dead animals and dead plants they give their lives for you and 01:37:58

plants they give their lives for you and 01:38:01

plants they give their lives for you and the proper response to that is take it 01:38:01

the proper response to that is take it 01:38:05

the proper response to that is take it with reverence and that means cook it 01:38:05

with reverence and that means cook it 01:38:07

with reverence and that means cook it well so that your act of cooking is like 01:38:07

well so that your act of cooking is like 01:38:11

well so that your act of cooking is like the rituals of a priest at an altar it 01:38:11

the rituals of a priest at an altar it 01:38:14

the rituals of a priest at an altar it is the sacrificial altar the chopping 01:38:14

is the sacrificial altar the chopping 01:38:16

is the sacrificial altar the chopping board in the range which we use and 01:38:16

board in the range which we use and 01:38:21

board in the range which we use and another kind of kitchens are not to be 01:38:21

another kind of kitchens are not to be 01:38:24

another kind of kitchens are not to be looked on a sort of lavatories where you 01:38:24

looked on a sort of lavatories where you 01:38:26

looked on a sort of lavatories where you throw things together to put in at the 01:38:26

throw things together to put in at the 01:38:29

throw things together to put in at the upper end so that this can only come 01:38:29

upper end so that this can only come 01:38:39

upper end so that this can only come about you see in a situation where human 01:38:39

about you see in a situation where human 01:38:42

about you see in a situation where human beings are vividly aware of the external 01:38:42

beings are vividly aware of the external 01:38:49

beings are vividly aware of the external world as as much themselves as their own 01:38:49

world as as much themselves as their own 01:38:53

world as as much themselves as their own bodies and you must allow yourself 01:38:53

bodies and you must allow yourself 01:38:59

bodies and you must allow yourself therefore to feel that what you see is 01:38:59

therefore to feel that what you see is 01:39:03

therefore to feel that what you see is not merely something out there it's in 01:39:03

not merely something out there it's in 01:39:10

not merely something out there it's in your head and your heads in it and these 01:39:10

your head and your heads in it and these 01:39:15

your head and your heads in it and these things mutually interpenetrate each 01:39:15

things mutually interpenetrate each 01:39:17

things mutually interpenetrate each other like this now it's in your head 01:39:17

other like this now it's in your head 01:39:19

other like this now it's in your head now your heads in it now it's in your 01:39:19

now your heads in it now it's in your 01:39:21

now your heads in it now it's in your head now your heads in it like this you 01:39:21

head now your heads in it like this you 01:39:23

head now your heads in it like this you see and this rhythm sets up what we call 01:39:23

see and this rhythm sets up what we call 01:39:26

see and this rhythm sets up what we call vision so if you see that the external 01:39:26

vision so if you see that the external 01:39:32

vision so if you see that the external world is as much you as anything inside 01:39:32

world is as much you as anything inside 01:39:34

world is as much you as anything inside your skin or anything inside your head 01:39:34

your skin or anything inside your head 01:39:37

your skin or anything inside your head then you have a certain respect for it 01:39:37

then you have a certain respect for it 01:39:41

then you have a certain respect for it and no longer consider matter for 01:39:41

and no longer consider matter for 01:39:47

and no longer consider matter for example take a piece of wood piece of 01:39:47

example take a piece of wood piece of 01:39:49

example take a piece of wood piece of wood not just a chunk of stuff but 01:39:49

wood not just a chunk of stuff but 01:39:52

wood not just a chunk of stuff but people think about wood that way you 01:39:52

people think about wood that way you 01:39:55

people think about wood that way you can't be a good carpenter if that's the 01:39:55

can't be a good carpenter if that's the 01:39:56

can't be a good carpenter if that's the way you think about wood 01:39:56

01:39:59

we think we're dealing and see with 01:39:59

we think we're dealing and see with 01:40:02

we think we're dealing and see with these inert unfeeling blocks of stuff 01:40:02

these inert unfeeling blocks of stuff 01:40:05

these inert unfeeling blocks of stuff rocks have no feelings of course bang it 01:40:05

rocks have no feelings of course bang it 01:40:08

rocks have no feelings of course bang it around mountains have no feelings blow 01:40:08

around mountains have no feelings blow 01:40:10

around mountains have no feelings blow them up with dynamite but they do have 01:40:10

them up with dynamite but they do have 01:40:14

them up with dynamite but they do have fields and if you hurt them this is the 01:40:14

fields and if you hurt them this is the 01:40:20

fields and if you hurt them this is the Indians say I've just been with a whole 01:40:20

Indians say I've just been with a whole 01:40:22

Indians say I've just been with a whole bunch of Indians they say the continent 01:40:22

bunch of Indians they say the continent 01:40:27

bunch of Indians they say the continent of the United States is getting ready to 01:40:27

of the United States is getting ready to 01:40:29

of the United States is getting ready to shake us off as a dog would shake off 01:40:29

shake us off as a dog would shake off 01:40:32

shake us off as a dog would shake off fleas they say the storms are going to 01:40:32

fleas they say the storms are going to 01:40:38

fleas they say the storms are going to get worse 01:40:38

get worse 01:40:38

get worse the earthquakes worse the floods worse 01:40:38

the earthquakes worse the floods worse 01:40:41

the earthquakes worse the floods worse and the insect pests will multiply in 01:40:41

and the insect pests will multiply in 01:40:46

and the insect pests will multiply in all sorts of strange ways and finally 01:40:46

all sorts of strange ways and finally 01:40:48

all sorts of strange ways and finally get rid of us and leave the land of the 01:40:48

get rid of us and leave the land of the 01:40:50

get rid of us and leave the land of the Indians who originally after the 01:40:50

Indians who originally after the 01:41:05

Indians who originally after the question arose this morning about the 01:41:05

question arose this morning about the 01:41:10

question arose this morning about the problem of whether the extension of the 01:41:11

problem of whether the extension of the 01:41:15

problem of whether the extension of the network especially by electronics might 01:41:15

network especially by electronics might 01:41:21

network especially by electronics might not abolish individual privacy 01:41:21

01:41:27

and I said I was planning to devote this 01:41:27

and I said I was planning to devote this 01:41:32

and I said I was planning to devote this afternoon session to that problem and 01:41:32

afternoon session to that problem and 01:41:35

afternoon session to that problem and some of its ramifications 01:41:35

01:41:44

this of course is the area of the 01:41:44

this of course is the area of the 01:41:48

this of course is the area of the problem with which Marshall McLuhan is 01:41:48

problem with which Marshall McLuhan is 01:41:52

problem with which Marshall McLuhan is very largely concerned for he has 01:41:52

very largely concerned for he has 01:41:56

very largely concerned for he has pointed out that just as the wheel is an 01:41:56

pointed out that just as the wheel is an 01:42:01

pointed out that just as the wheel is an extension of the feet and as beyond the 01:42:01

extension of the feet and as beyond the 01:42:10

extension of the feet and as beyond the wheel naturally comes the horse and 01:42:10

wheel naturally comes the horse and 01:42:12

wheel naturally comes the horse and carriage the automobile and the airplane 01:42:12

carriage the automobile and the airplane 01:42:18

carriage the automobile and the airplane all these technological creations are 01:42:18

all these technological creations are 01:42:23

all these technological creations are extensions of the human organism and 01:42:23

extensions of the human organism and 01:42:27

extensions of the human organism and finally the electronic network of 01:42:27

finally the electronic network of 01:42:30

finally the electronic network of telephone telegraph radio and television 01:42:30

telephone telegraph radio and television 01:42:33

telephone telegraph radio and television is an extension of the nervous system 01:42:33

is an extension of the nervous system 01:42:35

is an extension of the nervous system and into that we must throw as an 01:42:35

and into that we must throw as an 01:42:39

and into that we must throw as an additional extension of the nervous 01:42:39

additional extension of the nervous 01:42:41

additional extension of the nervous system the computer the computer into 01:42:41

system the computer the computer into 01:42:46

system the computer the computer into which data can be fed from the files of 01:42:46

which data can be fed from the files of 01:42:50

which data can be fed from the files of the insurance companies the Internal 01:42:50

the insurance companies the Internal 01:42:55

the insurance companies the Internal Revenue Service the police credit 01:42:55

Revenue Service the police credit 01:42:59

Revenue Service the police credit agencies everything so that in a matter 01:42:59

agencies everything so that in a matter 01:43:04

agencies everything so that in a matter of seconds when an individual is 01:43:04

of seconds when an individual is 01:43:07

of seconds when an individual is identified an enormous amount of 01:43:07

identified an enormous amount of 01:43:11

identified an enormous amount of information about him can be instantly 01:43:11

information about him can be instantly 01:43:13

information about him can be instantly known in a rather similar way the time 01:43:13

known in a rather similar way the time 01:43:18

known in a rather similar way the time is not too far ahead when you will be 01:43:18

is not too far ahead when you will be 01:43:21

is not too far ahead when you will be able to have a box about so big on your 01:43:21

able to have a box about so big on your 01:43:25

able to have a box about so big on your desk which has a little screen on it and 01:43:25

desk which has a little screen on it and 01:43:28

desk which has a little screen on it and a dial and after dialing a key code you 01:43:28

a dial and after dialing a key code you 01:43:33

a dial and after dialing a key code you will dial the catalog number of any book 01:43:33

will dial the catalog number of any book 01:43:35

will dial the catalog number of any book in the Library of Congress that you want 01:43:35

in the Library of Congress that you want 01:43:37

in the Library of Congress that you want to read and at any rate that you wish 01:43:37

to read and at any rate that you wish 01:43:40

to read and at any rate that you wish the spread pages of that book will 01:43:40

the spread pages of that book will 01:43:42

the spread pages of that book will appear on your television screen and you 01:43:42

appear on your television screen and you 01:43:46

appear on your television screen and you can get it right like that 01:43:46

01:43:49

when we get to the television worked 01:43:49

when we get to the television worked 01:43:55

when we get to the television worked with the agency of laser beings you will 01:43:55

with the agency of laser beings you will 01:43:58

with the agency of laser beings you will of course be able to see solid 01:43:58

of course be able to see solid 01:44:00

of course be able to see solid three-dimensional images in color 01:44:00

three-dimensional images in color 01:44:02

three-dimensional images in color projected in a certain area and you can 01:44:02

projected in a certain area and you can 01:44:05

projected in a certain area and you can walk around it 01:44:05

walk around it 01:44:05

walk around it I haven't discovered yet whether you can 01:44:05

I haven't discovered yet whether you can 01:44:08

I haven't discovered yet whether you can kiss it but when you get a phenomenon 01:44:08

kiss it but when you get a phenomenon 01:44:19

kiss it but when you get a phenomenon like that 01:44:19

like that 01:44:20

like that it begins raising the question of where 01:44:20

it begins raising the question of where 01:44:22

it begins raising the question of where somebody actually is yeah when the 01:44:22

somebody actually is yeah when the 01:44:27

somebody actually is yeah when the reproduction becomes technically perfect 01:44:27

reproduction becomes technically perfect 01:44:30

reproduction becomes technically perfect you see you won't know that a difference 01:44:30

you see you won't know that a difference 01:44:33

you see you won't know that a difference between the reproduction and the 01:44:33

between the reproduction and the 01:44:35

between the reproduction and the original that's going to be a new kind 01:44:35

original that's going to be a new kind 01:44:39

original that's going to be a new kind of confusion and we will perhaps even be 01:44:39

of confusion and we will perhaps even be 01:44:46

of confusion and we will perhaps even be able to think about the word 01:44:46

able to think about the word 01:44:48

able to think about the word reproduction in a new sense we say now 01:44:48

reproduction in a new sense we say now 01:44:53

reproduction in a new sense we say now one of the meanings we give to the word 01:44:53

one of the meanings we give to the word 01:44:55

one of the meanings we give to the word reproduction is sexual reproduction of 01:44:55

reproduction is sexual reproduction of 01:44:57

reproduction is sexual reproduction of the species are the biological method 01:44:57

the species are the biological method 01:45:00

the species are the biological method then we have reproduction through 01:45:00

then we have reproduction through 01:45:02

then we have reproduction through photocopy and all that kind of thing 01:45:02

photocopy and all that kind of thing 01:45:06

photocopy and all that kind of thing let's suppose to that we begin 01:45:06

let's suppose to that we begin 01:45:09

let's suppose to that we begin increasingly to be able to manufacture 01:45:09

increasingly to be able to manufacture 01:45:13

increasingly to be able to manufacture the parts of the human body in very 01:45:13

the parts of the human body in very 01:45:18

the parts of the human body in very perfect kinds of plastic so that when 01:45:18

perfect kinds of plastic so that when 01:45:22

perfect kinds of plastic so that when your heart goes wrong or your kidneys go 01:45:22

your heart goes wrong or your kidneys go 01:45:25

your heart goes wrong or your kidneys go wrong the surgeon will simply replace 01:45:25

wrong the surgeon will simply replace 01:45:27

wrong the surgeon will simply replace them with a plastic reproduction which 01:45:27

them with a plastic reproduction which 01:45:30

them with a plastic reproduction which will work equally well and perhaps 01:45:30

will work equally well and perhaps 01:45:34

will work equally well and perhaps they'll never be able to reproduce in 01:45:34

they'll never be able to reproduce in 01:45:36

they'll never be able to reproduce in plastic the brain but there can at least 01:45:36

plastic the brain but there can at least 01:45:39

plastic the brain but there can at least put in there a radio device which will 01:45:39

put in there a radio device which will 01:45:42

put in there a radio device which will connect with the computer system of some 01:45:42

connect with the computer system of some 01:45:46

connect with the computer system of some kind which will do the same job so that 01:45:46

kind which will do the same job so that 01:45:50

kind which will do the same job so that then after the years go by and your 01:45:50

then after the years go by and your 01:45:53

then after the years go by and your parts have been replaced the serious 01:45:53

parts have been replaced the serious 01:45:55

parts have been replaced the serious question arises as to are you the same 01:45:55

question arises as to are you the same 01:45:57

question arises as to are you the same individual 01:45:57

individual 01:45:59

individual and we would say well now you've been 01:45:59

and we would say well now you've been 01:46:04

and we would say well now you've been entirely replaced Gossett does you're 01:46:04

entirely replaced Gossett does you're 01:46:12

entirely replaced Gossett does you're being replaced all the time there by a 01:46:12

being replaced all the time there by a 01:46:13

being replaced all the time there by a different method and just as say an 01:46:13

different method and just as say an 01:46:16

different method and just as say an institution like the University of 01:46:16

institution like the University of 01:46:18

institution like the University of California which is a very rapidly 01:46:18

California which is a very rapidly 01:46:20

California which is a very rapidly changing university for some mysterious 01:46:20

changing university for some mysterious 01:46:23

changing university for some mysterious reason it remains the University of 01:46:23

reason it remains the University of 01:46:25

reason it remains the University of California recognizable as such even 01:46:25

California recognizable as such even 01:46:28

California recognizable as such even though the students the faculty the 01:46:28

though the students the faculty the 01:46:32

though the students the faculty the office and administrative staffs and the 01:46:32

office and administrative staffs and the 01:46:35

office and administrative staffs and the very building's themselves are in a 01:46:35

very building's themselves are in a 01:46:37

very building's themselves are in a state of flux so that they hardly remain 01:46:37

state of flux so that they hardly remain 01:46:39

state of flux so that they hardly remain a constant four five years in succession 01:46:39

a constant four five years in succession 01:46:41

a constant four five years in succession what then is the university the 01:46:41

what then is the university the 01:46:46

what then is the university the university is a pattern of behavior and 01:46:46

university is a pattern of behavior and 01:46:50

university is a pattern of behavior and the organisms involved in that pattern 01:46:50

the organisms involved in that pattern 01:46:55

the organisms involved in that pattern keep changing but the pattern retains an 01:46:55

keep changing but the pattern retains an 01:46:59

keep changing but the pattern retains an identifiable continuity so does your 01:46:59

identifiable continuity so does your 01:47:04

identifiable continuity so does your body so does the whirlpool in the stream 01:47:04

01:47:10

so do the hot springs down below 01:47:10

so do the hot springs down below 01:47:13

so do the hot springs down below although the water is running through 01:47:13

although the water is running through 01:47:15

although the water is running through them all the time and is never the same 01:47:15

01:47:22

so you can envisage the reproduction of 01:47:22

so you can envisage the reproduction of 01:47:26

so you can envisage the reproduction of the human being in this electronic way 01:47:26

the human being in this electronic way 01:47:29

the human being in this electronic way and at first you say Oh horrors are we 01:47:29

and at first you say Oh horrors are we 01:47:34

and at first you say Oh horrors are we going to be converted into nothing but 01:47:34

going to be converted into nothing but 01:47:35

going to be converted into nothing but plastic replicas of ourselves will we be 01:47:35

plastic replicas of ourselves will we be 01:47:39

plastic replicas of ourselves will we be there in any sense anymore 01:47:39

there in any sense anymore 01:47:43

there in any sense anymore will the soul survive it that you see in 01:47:43

will the soul survive it that you see in 01:47:47

will the soul survive it that you see in the case of the University of California 01:47:47

the case of the University of California 01:47:49

the case of the University of California it is what we call the University of 01:47:49

it is what we call the University of 01:47:51

it is what we call the University of California that is the soul and its 01:47:51

California that is the soul and its 01:47:55

California that is the soul and its bodily expression keeps changing so when 01:47:55

bodily expression keeps changing so when 01:48:03

bodily expression keeps changing so when we find out that we are electronic 01:48:03

we find out that we are electronic 01:48:07

we find out that we are electronic echoes of ourselves being perpetuated 01:48:07

echoes of ourselves being perpetuated 01:48:10

echoes of ourselves being perpetuated perpetuated through the ages we shall 01:48:10

perpetuated through the ages we shall 01:48:14

perpetuated through the ages we shall come to the astonishing conclusion that 01:48:14

come to the astonishing conclusion that 01:48:16

come to the astonishing conclusion that that's what we already are only we have 01:48:16

that's what we already are only we have 01:48:21

that's what we already are only we have to do it again ourselves in order to 01:48:21

to do it again ourselves in order to 01:48:23

to do it again ourselves in order to realize it we are already the most 01:48:23

realize it we are already the most 01:48:28

realize it we are already the most remarkable electronic patterns from the 01:48:28

remarkable electronic patterns from the 01:48:30

remarkable electronic patterns from the standpoint of physics 01:48:30

01:48:35

so let's bit lay that bugbear to rest 01:48:35

so let's bit lay that bugbear to rest 01:48:39

so let's bit lay that bugbear to rest although I must say there is something 01:48:39

although I must say there is something 01:48:42

although I must say there is something about plastic in its present stage of 01:48:42

about plastic in its present stage of 01:48:44

about plastic in its present stage of evolution that is somewhat repulsive 01:48:44

evolution that is somewhat repulsive 01:48:48

evolution that is somewhat repulsive there is a state of consciousness which 01:48:48

there is a state of consciousness which 01:48:53

there is a state of consciousness which those who are psychedelic Lee hip or hep 01:48:53

those who are psychedelic Lee hip or hep 01:48:57

those who are psychedelic Lee hip or hep call the plastic doll 01:48:57

01:49:02

in which everything looks as if it's 01:49:02

in which everything looks as if it's 01:49:06

in which everything looks as if it's made of plastic as if our patent leather 01:49:06

made of plastic as if our patent leather 01:49:10

made of plastic as if our patent leather or enamel tin that it only reflects 01:49:10

or enamel tin that it only reflects 01:49:13

or enamel tin that it only reflects light and has no light inside it there 01:49:13

light and has no light inside it there 01:49:16

light and has no light inside it there is another side to the vision whereby 01:49:16

is another side to the vision whereby 01:49:18

is another side to the vision whereby everything becomes living jewelry with 01:49:18

everything becomes living jewelry with 01:49:21

everything becomes living jewelry with light inside a kind of beatific vision 01:49:21

light inside a kind of beatific vision 01:49:24

light inside a kind of beatific vision as distinct from a diabolic vision and 01:49:24

as distinct from a diabolic vision and 01:49:26

as distinct from a diabolic vision and at the present stage of its development 01:49:26

at the present stage of its development 01:49:28

at the present stage of its development plastic always suggests the diabolic 01:49:28

plastic always suggests the diabolic 01:49:31

plastic always suggests the diabolic vision but it is through the diabolic 01:49:31

vision but it is through the diabolic 01:49:36

vision but it is through the diabolic vision that you gather the deepest 01:49:36

vision that you gather the deepest 01:49:39

vision that you gather the deepest insights it's really profound er than 01:49:39

insights it's really profound er than 01:49:42

insights it's really profound er than the beatific vision in a certain way 01:49:42

the beatific vision in a certain way 01:49:46

the beatific vision in a certain way because if you can go down into any 01:49:46

because if you can go down into any 01:49:52

because if you can go down into any experience I hope you understand the 01:49:52

experience I hope you understand the 01:49:56

experience I hope you understand the meaning of this phrase go down into very 01:49:56

meaning of this phrase go down into very 01:49:59

meaning of this phrase go down into very important it means exploring a certain 01:49:59

important it means exploring a certain 01:50:08

important it means exploring a certain sensation or a certain feeling to find 01:50:08

sensation or a certain feeling to find 01:50:13

sensation or a certain feeling to find out all its implications to find out 01:50:13

out all its implications to find out 01:50:16

out all its implications to find out what it is at root that you like about 01:50:16

what it is at root that you like about 01:50:19

what it is at root that you like about it or dislike about it and you will find 01:50:19

it or dislike about it and you will find 01:50:23

it or dislike about it and you will find if you explore the plastic doll vision 01:50:23

if you explore the plastic doll vision 01:50:27

if you explore the plastic doll vision sufficiently carefully that it will 01:50:27

sufficiently carefully that it will 01:50:31

sufficiently carefully that it will bring about in the end a far greater 01:50:31

bring about in the end a far greater 01:50:33

bring about in the end a far greater depth of bliss and realization then 01:50:33

depth of bliss and realization then 01:50:38

depth of bliss and realization then merely exploring the things that are 01:50:38

merely exploring the things that are 01:50:41

merely exploring the things that are lovely at first sight 01:50:41

lovely at first sight 01:50:44

lovely at first sight obviously so so one should think about 01:50:44

obviously so so one should think about 01:50:49

obviously so so one should think about this funny thing of technology 01:50:49

this funny thing of technology 01:50:55

this funny thing of technology considered as artificiality in the light 01:50:55

considered as artificiality in the light 01:51:00

considered as artificiality in the light of the realization that there really is 01:51:00

of the realization that there really is 01:51:03

of the realization that there really is nothing artificial you might say the 01:51:03

nothing artificial you might say the 01:51:07

nothing artificial you might say the distinction of the artificial from the 01:51:07

distinction of the artificial from the 01:51:09

distinction of the artificial from the natural is a very artificial distinction 01:51:09

natural is a very artificial distinction 01:51:13

natural is a very artificial distinction that the constructs of human beings are 01:51:13

that the constructs of human beings are 01:51:18

that the constructs of human beings are really no more unnatural than bees nests 01:51:18

really no more unnatural than bees nests 01:51:21

really no more unnatural than bees nests and birds nests and constructs of animal 01:51:21

and birds nests and constructs of animal 01:51:27

and birds nests and constructs of animal and insect beings they're extensions of 01:51:27

and insect beings they're extensions of 01:51:31

and insect beings they're extensions of ourselves so then what about the 01:51:31

ourselves so then what about the 01:51:35

ourselves so then what about the situation when it arises that we are all 01:51:35

situation when it arises that we are all 01:51:38

situation when it arises that we are all computerized that no one is hidden I 01:51:38

computerized that no one is hidden I 01:51:42

computerized that no one is hidden I want you to notice something already 01:51:42

want you to notice something already 01:51:45

want you to notice something already about the Bell Telephone Company they 01:51:45

about the Bell Telephone Company they 01:51:50

about the Bell Telephone Company they have a regulation whereby you cannot 01:51:50

have a regulation whereby you cannot 01:51:54

have a regulation whereby you cannot switch your telephone off you may have 01:51:54

switch your telephone off you may have 01:51:57

switch your telephone off you may have an extension in the house and you may 01:51:57

an extension in the house and you may 01:51:59

an extension in the house and you may switch that off but you may not switch 01:51:59

switch that off but you may not switch 01:52:02

switch that off but you may not switch off your main phone and if you leave it 01:52:02

off your main phone and if you leave it 01:52:06

off your main phone and if you leave it off the hook it starts screaming after a 01:52:06

off the hook it starts screaming after a 01:52:08

off the hook it starts screaming after a while they project that not many years 01:52:08

while they project that not many years 01:52:13

while they project that not many years hence the ordinary telephone will 01:52:13

hence the ordinary telephone will 01:52:16

hence the ordinary telephone will disappear and every individual will 01:52:16

disappear and every individual will 01:52:18

disappear and every individual will carry it around with him a thing about 01:52:18

carry it around with him a thing about 01:52:20

carry it around with him a thing about the size of the old pocket watches one 01:52:20

the size of the old pocket watches one 01:52:23

the size of the old pocket watches one side of it will be a TV screen and a 01:52:23

side of it will be a TV screen and a 01:52:25

side of it will be a TV screen and a speaker the other side of it will be a 01:52:25

speaker the other side of it will be a 01:52:28

speaker the other side of it will be a set of buttons over which you just place 01:52:28

set of buttons over which you just place 01:52:33

set of buttons over which you just place your finger to activate them you will be 01:52:33

your finger to activate them you will be 01:52:37

your finger to activate them you will be able to dial world information who will 01:52:37

able to dial world information who will 01:52:40

able to dial world information who will give you the number of any given 01:52:40

give you the number of any given 01:52:42

give you the number of any given individual if he doesn't answer is dead 01:52:42

01:52:55

so under such circumstances absolutely 01:52:55

so under such circumstances absolutely 01:52:59

so under such circumstances absolutely no one can get lost and then you see as 01:52:59

no one can get lost and then you see as 01:53:08

no one can get lost and then you see as as this moves on let me develop some of 01:53:08

as this moves on let me develop some of 01:53:12

as this moves on let me develop some of its further possibilities people like 01:53:12

its further possibilities people like 01:53:16

its further possibilities people like twine B and McLuhan have noted that as 01:53:16

twine B and McLuhan have noted that as 01:53:19

twine B and McLuhan have noted that as technology progresses there enters into 01:53:19

technology progresses there enters into 01:53:22

technology progresses there enters into it equality of what they call ethereal 01:53:22

it equality of what they call ethereal 01:53:25

it equality of what they call ethereal ization and this is connected with 01:53:25

ization and this is connected with 01:53:29

ization and this is connected with Teilhard de Chardin doctrine of 01:53:29

Teilhard de Chardin doctrine of 01:53:32

Teilhard de Chardin doctrine of peduncles 01:53:32

01:53:36

but uncle's aren't exactly relatives and 01:53:36

but uncle's aren't exactly relatives and 01:53:42

but uncle's aren't exactly relatives and we have to understand first the doctrine 01:53:42

we have to understand first the doctrine 01:53:44

we have to understand first the doctrine of peduncles now here it is here is a 01:53:44

of peduncles now here it is here is a 01:53:52

of peduncles now here it is here is a globule it might be an amoeba or it 01:53:52

globule it might be an amoeba or it 01:53:55

globule it might be an amoeba or it might be boil in water suspended and 01:53:55

might be boil in water suspended and 01:53:58

might be boil in water suspended and this globule is going to separate first 01:53:58

this globule is going to separate first 01:54:02

this globule is going to separate first it does this then it does this then it 01:54:02

it does this then it does this then it 01:54:10

it does this then it does this then it does this and then it does this 01:54:10

01:54:17

see 01:54:17

see 01:54:19

see now these things here are peduncles from 01:54:19

now these things here are peduncles from 01:54:25

now these things here are peduncles from the Latin root pays pedis meaning a foot 01:54:25

01:54:35

some sort of protrusion of a globular 01:54:35

some sort of protrusion of a globular 01:54:40

some sort of protrusion of a globular body so notice then that the production 01:54:40

body so notice then that the production 01:54:46

body so notice then that the production of a peduncle here in the form of a 01:54:46

of a peduncle here in the form of a 01:54:48

of a peduncle here in the form of a connecting neck and here in the form of 01:54:48

connecting neck and here in the form of 01:54:51

connecting neck and here in the form of little tails when the neck is broken 01:54:51

little tails when the neck is broken 01:54:52

little tails when the neck is broken that in the course of the development 01:54:52

that in the course of the development 01:54:55

that in the course of the development when we reach this stage the peduncles 01:54:55

when we reach this stage the peduncles 01:54:57

when we reach this stage the peduncles have disappeared according to de Sharda 01:54:57

have disappeared according to de Sharda 01:55:03

have disappeared according to de Sharda this is why we do not find missing links 01:55:03

this is why we do not find missing links 01:55:06

this is why we do not find missing links around in the evolutionary process they 01:55:06

around in the evolutionary process they 01:55:11

around in the evolutionary process they vanished in accordance with the law of 01:55:11

vanished in accordance with the law of 01:55:13

vanished in accordance with the law of peduncles now in exactly the same way 01:55:13

peduncles now in exactly the same way 01:55:16

peduncles now in exactly the same way the human technology sets up certain 01:55:16

the human technology sets up certain 01:55:19

the human technology sets up certain kinds of peduncles a road for example or 01:55:19

kinds of peduncles a road for example or 01:55:24

kinds of peduncles a road for example or a railroad is a peduncle because with 01:55:24

a railroad is a peduncle because with 01:55:29

a railroad is a peduncle because with the development of automotive traffic 01:55:29

the development of automotive traffic 01:55:32

the development of automotive traffic truck traffic 01:55:32

truck traffic 01:55:34

truck traffic the railroads become increasingly 01:55:34

the railroads become increasingly 01:55:37

the railroads become increasingly obsolete and there are rusty old tracks 01:55:37

obsolete and there are rusty old tracks 01:55:40

obsolete and there are rusty old tracks lying all over the country that are not 01:55:40

lying all over the country that are not 01:55:42

lying all over the country that are not used anymore and then with the 01:55:42

used anymore and then with the 01:55:46

used anymore and then with the development of aircraft the road tends 01:55:46

development of aircraft the road tends 01:55:49

development of aircraft the road tends to become obsolete with the development 01:55:49

to become obsolete with the development 01:55:53

to become obsolete with the development of radio the wire as a connection as a 01:55:53

of radio the wire as a connection as a 01:55:57

of radio the wire as a connection as a peduncle becomes obsolete so that more 01:55:57

peduncle becomes obsolete so that more 01:56:02

peduncle becomes obsolete so that more and more the the connecting links that 01:56:02

and more the the connecting links that 01:56:05

and more the the connecting links that we saw in a visible way disappear with 01:56:05

we saw in a visible way disappear with 01:56:10

we saw in a visible way disappear with the development of more expert types of 01:56:10

the development of more expert types of 01:56:12

the development of more expert types of communication we can easily take this a 01:56:12

communication we can easily take this a 01:56:16

communication we can easily take this a step further when we develop a form of 01:56:16

step further when we develop a form of 01:56:19

step further when we develop a form of electronic communication such that you 01:56:19

electronic communication such that you 01:56:22

electronic communication such that you don't even need to take a plane you want 01:56:22

don't even need to take a plane you want 01:56:27

don't even need to take a plane you want to see supposing I want to see my father 01:56:27

to see supposing I want to see my father 01:56:29

to see supposing I want to see my father in England 01:56:29

in England 01:56:31

in England we both have these laser beam TV jobs 01:56:31

we both have these laser beam TV jobs 01:56:34

we both have these laser beam TV jobs and like that I can recreate in front of 01:56:34

and like that I can recreate in front of 01:56:40

and like that I can recreate in front of him myself and my exact environment 01:56:40

him myself and my exact environment 01:56:42

him myself and my exact environment everything around just as if he was 01:56:42

everything around just as if he was 01:56:44

everything around just as if he was sitting in the room and he I can do that 01:56:44

sitting in the room and he I can do that 01:56:47

sitting in the room and he I can do that with his set on the other end so that 01:56:47

with his set on the other end so that 01:56:52

with his set on the other end so that eventually we don't need to take the 01:56:52

eventually we don't need to take the 01:56:53

eventually we don't need to take the plane you can conceive as some science 01:56:53

plane you can conceive as some science 01:56:58

plane you can conceive as some science fiction writers have what seems to us a 01:56:58

fiction writers have what seems to us a 01:57:01

fiction writers have what seems to us a rather appalling situation where you 01:57:01

rather appalling situation where you 01:57:03

rather appalling situation where you never never needin need to leave the 01:57:03

never never needin need to leave the 01:57:06

never never needin need to leave the place where you're sitting all food 01:57:06

place where you're sitting all food 01:57:09

place where you're sitting all food supplies and everything are 01:57:09

supplies and everything are 01:57:10

supplies and everything are automatically delivered you just die or 01:57:10

automatically delivered you just die or 01:57:13

automatically delivered you just die or what you want and some kind of 01:57:13

what you want and some kind of 01:57:15

what you want and some kind of mechanical process that transmits it to 01:57:15

mechanical process that transmits it to 01:57:17

mechanical process that transmits it to you then they go further than that but 01:57:17

you then they go further than that but 01:57:21

you then they go further than that but they don't 01:57:21

they don't 01:57:22

they don't they really abolish food altogether 01:57:22

they really abolish food altogether 01:57:24

they really abolish food altogether because they've got it down to some 01:57:24

because they've got it down to some 01:57:26

because they've got it down to some special essences which you take then 01:57:26

special essences which you take then 01:57:30

special essences which you take then they go beyond that and you give 01:57:30

they go beyond that and you give 01:57:33

they go beyond that and you give yourself a certain kind of electronic 01:57:33

yourself a certain kind of electronic 01:57:34

yourself a certain kind of electronic stimulation and it does all for you that 01:57:34

stimulation and it does all for you that 01:57:37

stimulation and it does all for you that food could ever do and then you think oh 01:57:37

food could ever do and then you think oh 01:57:42

food could ever do and then you think oh dear what's the next step beyond that of 01:57:42

dear what's the next step beyond that of 01:57:48

dear what's the next step beyond that of course the next step beyond that is of 01:57:48

course the next step beyond that is of 01:57:53

course the next step beyond that is of course there's one thing yet one 01:57:53

course there's one thing yet one 01:57:55

course there's one thing yet one peduncle we have to have to get rid of 01:57:55

peduncle we have to have to get rid of 01:57:58

peduncle we have to have to get rid of and that is the black box the electronic 01:57:58

and that is the black box the electronic 01:58:03

and that is the black box the electronic gadget because by the time we have 01:58:03

gadget because by the time we have 01:58:06

gadget because by the time we have become as hithi realized as that we move 01:58:06

become as hithi realized as that we move 01:58:09

become as hithi realized as that we move into a telepathy and psychic 01:58:09

into a telepathy and psychic 01:58:14

into a telepathy and psychic communication and as soon as you make 01:58:14

communication and as soon as you make 01:58:16

communication and as soon as you make that step of course it would seem that 01:58:16

that step of course it would seem that 01:58:19

that step of course it would seem that all privacy whatsoever has gone because 01:58:19

all privacy whatsoever has gone because 01:58:23

all privacy whatsoever has gone because what you are inside is an open book to 01:58:23

what you are inside is an open book to 01:58:26

what you are inside is an open book to everybody else 01:58:26

everybody else 01:58:27

everybody else your thoughts are easily read and 01:58:27

your thoughts are easily read and 01:58:30

your thoughts are easily read and therefore you may say at first boo that 01:58:30

therefore you may say at first boo that 01:58:36

therefore you may say at first boo that is the conversion of humanity into an 01:58:36

is the conversion of humanity into an 01:58:39

is the conversion of humanity into an anthill of the worst type and this is in 01:58:39

anthill of the worst type and this is in 01:58:44

anthill of the worst type and this is in a way naturally but all properly 01:58:44

a way naturally but all properly 01:58:46

a way naturally but all properly educated Americans and I will add 01:58:46

educated Americans and I will add 01:58:48

educated Americans and I will add properly educated brittish's and some 01:58:48

properly educated brittish's and some 01:58:51

properly educated brittish's and some other people's dread it is said the 01:58:51

other people's dread it is said the 01:58:55

other people's dread it is said the Englishman's home is his castle and 01:58:55

Englishman's home is his castle and 01:58:59

Englishman's home is his castle and everybody needs a castle place we can 01:58:59

everybody needs a castle place we can 01:59:01

everybody needs a castle place we can get away from it all and just be 01:59:01

get away from it all and just be 01:59:04

get away from it all and just be yourself but even then when you're away 01:59:04

yourself but even then when you're away 01:59:07

yourself but even then when you're away from it all and you're just being in 01:59:07

from it all and you're just being in 01:59:09

from it all and you're just being in yourself 01:59:09

yourself 01:59:09

yourself you've unfortunately got a lot of 01:59:09

you've unfortunately got a lot of 01:59:11

you've unfortunately got a lot of thoughts inside your head that aren't 01:59:11

thoughts inside your head that aren't 01:59:13

thoughts inside your head that aren't yours because you think in the English 01:59:13

yours because you think in the English 01:59:18

yours because you think in the English language and that was given to you by 01:59:18

language and that was given to you by 01:59:19

language and that was given to you by other people and contains their 01:59:19

other people and contains their 01:59:22

other people and contains their prejudices that you can't avoid them and 01:59:22

prejudices that you can't avoid them and 01:59:24

prejudices that you can't avoid them and think Japanese people will say that when 01:59:24

think Japanese people will say that when 01:59:29

think Japanese people will say that when they think in Japanese they can have 01:59:29

they think in Japanese they can have 01:59:31

they think in Japanese they can have certain feelings that are 01:59:31

certain feelings that are 01:59:34

certain feelings that are characteristically Japanese but when 01:59:34

characteristically Japanese but when 01:59:37

characteristically Japanese but when they start thinking in English they 01:59:37

they start thinking in English they 01:59:38

they start thinking in English they can't have those feelings 01:59:38

01:59:42

and so you are very very much really in 01:59:42

and so you are very very much really in 01:59:47

and so you are very very much really in the sphere of public influence when you 01:59:47

the sphere of public influence when you 01:59:51

the sphere of public influence when you sent them when you start to think and if 01:59:51

sent them when you start to think and if 01:59:53

sent them when you start to think and if you listen carefully to your thoughts 01:59:53

you listen carefully to your thoughts 01:59:55

you listen carefully to your thoughts insofar as they are uttered in words and 01:59:55

insofar as they are uttered in words and 01:59:57

insofar as they are uttered in words and they very often are try and discover the 01:59:57

they very often are try and discover the 02:00:01

they very often are try and discover the tone of voice in which certain of your 02:00:01

tone of voice in which certain of your 02:00:03

tone of voice in which certain of your thoughts are being said and you will 02:00:03

thoughts are being said and you will 02:00:05

thoughts are being said and you will listen and hear your mother or you will 02:00:05

listen and hear your mother or you will 02:00:08

listen and hear your mother or you will hear an aunt or you will hear a 02:00:08

hear an aunt or you will hear a 02:00:10

hear an aunt or you will hear a schoolteacher or will hear certain 02:00:10

schoolteacher or will hear certain 02:00:12

schoolteacher or will hear certain friends expressing their opinions and 02:00:12

friends expressing their opinions and 02:00:14

friends expressing their opinions and telling you who you are and how you 02:00:14

telling you who you are and how you 02:00:16

telling you who you are and how you ought to behave and you think those are 02:00:16

ought to behave and you think those are 02:00:19

ought to behave and you think those are your thoughts and they're nothing of the 02:00:19

your thoughts and they're nothing of the 02:00:20

your thoughts and they're nothing of the kind 02:00:20

kind 02:00:21

kind an inner pandemonium under the dome of 02:00:21

an inner pandemonium under the dome of 02:00:24

an inner pandemonium under the dome of the skull is going on all the time 02:00:24

the skull is going on all the time 02:00:27

the skull is going on all the time millions of voices millions of 02:00:27

millions of voices millions of 02:00:30

millions of voices millions of influences from outside working upon you 02:00:30

influences from outside working upon you 02:00:33

influences from outside working upon you even when you are physically quite alone 02:00:33

even when you are physically quite alone 02:00:38

even when you are physically quite alone so weight of the quested period please 02:00:38

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this means that you are not nearly as 02:00:44

this means that you are not nearly as 02:00:50

this means that you are not nearly as much of a private individual as you 02:00:50

much of a private individual as you 02:00:52

much of a private individual as you think you are also of course exercising 02:00:52

think you are also of course exercising 02:00:58

think you are also of course exercising these influences upon other people 02:00:58

these influences upon other people 02:01:00

these influences upon other people you're telling them who they are what 02:01:00

you're telling them who they are what 02:01:02

you're telling them who they are what you think about them what you think of 02:01:02

you think about them what you think of 02:01:03

you think about them what you think of their behavior and even if they don't 02:01:03

their behavior and even if they don't 02:01:05

their behavior and even if they don't believe you they're nevertheless pay 02:01:05

believe you they're nevertheless pay 02:01:07

believe you they're nevertheless pay very serious attention to it they can't 02:01:07

very serious attention to it they can't 02:01:09

very serious attention to it they can't help it you can take the experiment for 02:01:09

help it you can take the experiment for 02:01:13

help it you can take the experiment for example that BF Skinner used to try is 02:01:13

example that BF Skinner used to try is 02:01:15

example that BF Skinner used to try is very terrifying he would send two 02:01:15

very terrifying he would send two 02:01:19

very terrifying he would send two members of the class selected 02:01:19

members of the class selected 02:01:20

members of the class selected arbitrarily outside of the room then he 02:01:20

arbitrarily outside of the room then he 02:01:23

arbitrarily outside of the room then he would arrange two chairs chair a and 02:01:23

would arrange two chairs chair a and 02:01:26

would arrange two chairs chair a and chair B you would say to the class now 02:01:26

chair B you would say to the class now 02:01:28

chair B you would say to the class now look when these people come back we're 02:01:28

look when these people come back we're 02:01:31

look when these people come back we're going to engage them in a conversation 02:01:31

going to engage them in a conversation 02:01:33

going to engage them in a conversation whatever a says agree with him whatever 02:01:33

whatever a says agree with him whatever 02:01:36

whatever a says agree with him whatever B says disagree with him so there come 02:01:36

B says disagree with him so there come 02:01:41

B says disagree with him so there come back into the room and they take their 02:01:41

back into the room and they take their 02:01:42

back into the room and they take their seats and a conversation begins now B 02:01:42

seats and a conversation begins now B 02:01:46

seats and a conversation begins now B may be a very strong-headed articulate 02:01:46

may be a very strong-headed articulate 02:01:49

may be a very strong-headed articulate person and a really rather feeble now 02:01:49

person and a really rather feeble now 02:01:53

person and a really rather feeble now what happens is there 02:01:53

what happens is there 02:01:54

what happens is there that by group agreement with anything a 02:01:54

that by group agreement with anything a 02:01:57

that by group agreement with anything a says he is encouraged he is built up he 02:01:57

says he is encouraged he is built up he 02:01:59

says he is encouraged he is built up he becomes more articulate he finds himself 02:01:59

becomes more articulate he finds himself 02:02:02

becomes more articulate he finds himself sprouting but be by being disagreed with 02:02:02

sprouting but be by being disagreed with 02:02:05

sprouting but be by being disagreed with on every point begins to get baffled and 02:02:05

on every point begins to get baffled and 02:02:08

on every point begins to get baffled and confused and feel very uncomfortable 02:02:08

confused and feel very uncomfortable 02:02:11

confused and feel very uncomfortable indeed unless he is on to the game and 02:02:11

indeed unless he is on to the game and 02:02:18

indeed unless he is on to the game and he challenges the whole group I see now 02:02:18

he challenges the whole group I see now 02:02:20

he challenges the whole group I see now what you're playing you have made up 02:02:20

what you're playing you have made up 02:02:22

what you're playing you have made up your minds to disagree with everything I 02:02:22

your minds to disagree with everything I 02:02:24

your minds to disagree with everything I say 02:02:24

say 02:02:25

say therefore of course you don't count I 02:02:25

therefore of course you don't count I 02:02:28

therefore of course you don't count I [Laughter] 02:02:28

[Laughter] 02:02:33

[Laughter] shall pay no attention to you so in this 02:02:33

shall pay no attention to you so in this 02:02:41

shall pay no attention to you so in this way you see we're already colossal II 02:02:41

way you see we're already colossal II 02:02:45

way you see we're already colossal II influenced by each other and this is why 02:02:45

influenced by each other and this is why 02:02:48

influenced by each other and this is why I think that Harry stack Sullivan x' 02:02:48

I think that Harry stack Sullivan x' 02:02:50

I think that Harry stack Sullivan x' basic ideas about psychopathology are in 02:02:50

basic ideas about psychopathology are in 02:02:54

basic ideas about psychopathology are in some respects more profound than Freud's 02:02:54

some respects more profound than Freud's 02:02:57

some respects more profound than Freud's Freud is always looking into the 02:02:57

Freud is always looking into the 02:02:59

Freud is always looking into the individual history into the physiology 02:02:59

individual history into the physiology 02:03:03

individual history into the physiology into the depth psychology of the 02:03:03

into the depth psychology of the 02:03:07

into the depth psychology of the individual in an interior sort of way 02:03:07

individual in an interior sort of way 02:03:09

individual in an interior sort of way but Sullivan was always looking to the 02:03:09

but Sullivan was always looking to the 02:03:13

but Sullivan was always looking to the individual as the expression of a social 02:03:13

individual as the expression of a social 02:03:15

individual as the expression of a social network and the same in the psychology 02:03:15

network and the same in the psychology 02:03:20

network and the same in the psychology of George Herbert Mead where he called 02:03:20

of George Herbert Mead where he called 02:03:23

of George Herbert Mead where he called the conceptions that we have of 02:03:23

the conceptions that we have of 02:03:26

the conceptions that we have of ourselves the interior eyes other in 02:03:26

ourselves the interior eyes other in 02:03:30

ourselves the interior eyes other in other words the sum total of all the 02:03:30

other words the sum total of all the 02:03:33

other words the sum total of all the things that people have told us we are 02:03:33

things that people have told us we are 02:03:36

things that people have told us we are because you do not know yourself as a 02:03:36

because you do not know yourself as a 02:03:39

because you do not know yourself as a self except in a society just as you do 02:03:39

self except in a society just as you do 02:03:45

self except in a society just as you do not exist 02:03:45

not exist 02:03:46

not exist biologically without a father and a 02:03:46

biologically without a father and a 02:03:48

biologically without a father and a mother you do not carry on an existence 02:03:48

mother you do not carry on an existence 02:03:51

mother you do not carry on an existence without a society and the reactions of 02:03:51

without a society and the reactions of 02:03:54

without a society and the reactions of other people to you provide you with the 02:03:54

other people to you provide you with the 02:03:56

other people to you provide you with the mirror in which you attain a realization 02:03:56

mirror in which you attain a realization 02:04:00

mirror in which you attain a realization of yourself you know who you are 02:04:00

of yourself you know who you are 02:04:05

of yourself you know who you are in terms of your relationships with 02:04:05

in terms of your relationships with 02:04:07

in terms of your relationships with others so there now when we contemplate 02:04:07

others so there now when we contemplate 02:04:14

others so there now when we contemplate this disappearance of privacy and a 02:04:14

this disappearance of privacy and a 02:04:17

this disappearance of privacy and a completely integrated human society we 02:04:17

completely integrated human society we 02:04:21

completely integrated human society we can look at this from two different 02:04:21

can look at this from two different 02:04:23

can look at this from two different points of view pro and con let us first 02:04:23

points of view pro and con let us first 02:04:27

points of view pro and con let us first look at the pro point of view how great 02:04:27

look at the pro point of view how great 02:04:30

look at the pro point of view how great to have nothing to hide how great to 02:04:30

to have nothing to hide how great to 02:04:36

to have nothing to hide how great to give up all worries about ownership 02:04:36

give up all worries about ownership 02:04:40

give up all worries about ownership because you can say if somebody says 02:04:40

because you can say if somebody says 02:04:43

because you can say if somebody says they would like something you have and 02:04:43

they would like something you have and 02:04:46

they would like something you have and you say please have it because you know 02:04:46

you say please have it because you know 02:04:48

you say please have it because you know very well you can go to someone else and 02:04:48

very well you can go to someone else and 02:04:50

very well you can go to someone else and say could I have that and they'll give 02:04:50

say could I have that and they'll give 02:04:52

say could I have that and they'll give it to you and so all the way around 02:04:52

it to you and so all the way around 02:04:57

it to you and so all the way around there there is no propriety in the sense 02:04:57

there there is no propriety in the sense 02:05:01

there there is no propriety in the sense not of them prudish propriety but 02:05:01

not of them prudish propriety but 02:05:03

not of them prudish propriety but propriety in the sense of possession now 02:05:03

propriety in the sense of possession now 02:05:06

propriety in the sense of possession now also of course in the sense of prudish 02:05:06

also of course in the sense of prudish 02:05:08

also of course in the sense of prudish propriety nobody has any dirty little 02:05:08

propriety nobody has any dirty little 02:05:12

propriety nobody has any dirty little secrets because if I have any dirty 02:05:12

secrets because if I have any dirty 02:05:14

secrets because if I have any dirty secrets I know very well that you have 02:05:14

secrets I know very well that you have 02:05:16

secrets I know very well that you have to and so let's drop the whole pretense 02:05:16

to and so let's drop the whole pretense 02:05:19

to and so let's drop the whole pretense and let go so in this sense there might 02:05:19

and let go so in this sense there might 02:05:28

and let go so in this sense there might be a very very close fellowship between 02:05:28

be a very very close fellowship between 02:05:32

be a very very close fellowship between all people in which there are no 02:05:32

all people in which there are no 02:05:36

all people in which there are no barriers no defenses and we all 02:05:36

barriers no defenses and we all 02:05:39

barriers no defenses and we all cooperate together beautifully and love 02:05:39

cooperate together beautifully and love 02:05:42

cooperate together beautifully and love each other now let's look at the common 02:05:42

each other now let's look at the common 02:05:48

each other now let's look at the common point of view con point of view would 02:05:48

point of view con point of view would 02:05:51

point of view con point of view would say yes but surely the more we 02:05:51

say yes but surely the more we 02:05:57

say yes but surely the more we communicate with each other in that way 02:05:57

communicate with each other in that way 02:05:59

communicate with each other in that way and have no property and there are no 02:05:59

and have no property and there are no 02:06:01

and have no property and there are no boundaries and there are no fences or 02:06:01

boundaries and there are no fences or 02:06:03

boundaries and there are no fences or defenses then just in the same way that 02:06:03

defenses then just in the same way that 02:06:07

defenses then just in the same way that jet aircraft makes all cities the same 02:06:07

jet aircraft makes all cities the same 02:06:09

jet aircraft makes all cities the same city so this would make all people the 02:06:09

city so this would make all people the 02:06:13

city so this would make all people the same individual would that be what the 02:06:13

same individual would that be what the 02:06:16

same individual would that be what the Hindus mean by saying you are all 02:06:16

Hindus mean by saying you are all 02:06:18

Hindus mean by saying you are all one you are all the Godhead in disguise 02:06:18

one you are all the Godhead in disguise 02:06:21

one you are all the Godhead in disguise would it mean that now part of our 02:06:21

would it mean that now part of our 02:06:27

would it mean that now part of our difficulty in approaching this is that 02:06:27

difficulty in approaching this is that 02:06:31

difficulty in approaching this is that we begin from the standpoint of a 02:06:31

we begin from the standpoint of a 02:06:32

we begin from the standpoint of a certain conception of the individual 02:06:32

certain conception of the individual 02:06:34

certain conception of the individual person and this is of course the 02:06:34

person and this is of course the 02:06:40

person and this is of course the Christian ego which is the soul as a 02:06:40

Christian ego which is the soul as a 02:06:47

Christian ego which is the soul as a center of action and something alive 02:06:47

center of action and something alive 02:06:51

center of action and something alive with consciousness and intelligence that 02:06:51

with consciousness and intelligence that 02:06:55

with consciousness and intelligence that lies hidden in the bag of skin as for 02:06:55

lies hidden in the bag of skin as for 02:07:00

lies hidden in the bag of skin as for example King John says in Shakespeare's 02:07:00

example King John says in Shakespeare's 02:07:04

example King John says in Shakespeare's play to Hubert within this wall of flesh 02:07:04

play to Hubert within this wall of flesh 02:07:09

play to Hubert within this wall of flesh there is a soul counts the her creditor 02:07:09

there is a soul counts the her creditor 02:07:11

there is a soul counts the her creditor and with advantage means to pay thy love 02:07:11

and with advantage means to pay thy love 02:07:14

and with advantage means to pay thy love see the image within this wall of flesh 02:07:14

see the image within this wall of flesh 02:07:17

see the image within this wall of flesh there is a soul within the castle there 02:07:17

there is a soul within the castle there 02:07:20

there is a soul within the castle there is the king and every man's home is his 02:07:20

is the king and every man's home is his 02:07:23

is the king and every man's home is his castle 02:07:23

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and so those of us who are brought up in 02:07:25

and so those of us who are brought up in 02:07:29

and so those of us who are brought up in that way to feel a that we are basically 02:07:29

that way to feel a that we are basically 02:07:33

that way to feel a that we are basically the soul in the body and be that every 02:07:33

the soul in the body and be that every 02:07:38

the soul in the body and be that every soul that exists is of infinite value in 02:07:38

soul that exists is of infinite value in 02:07:40

soul that exists is of infinite value in the eyes of God we therefore have 02:07:40

the eyes of God we therefore have 02:07:44

the eyes of God we therefore have instituted since the Industrial 02:07:44

instituted since the Industrial 02:07:46

instituted since the Industrial Revolution a tremendous technological 02:07:46

Revolution a tremendous technological 02:07:50

Revolution a tremendous technological campaign to preserve the individual we 02:07:50

campaign to preserve the individual we 02:07:57

campaign to preserve the individual we have all kinds of social services 02:07:57

have all kinds of social services 02:07:59

have all kinds of social services hospitals ambulances medicine welfare 02:07:59

hospitals ambulances medicine welfare 02:08:04

hospitals ambulances medicine welfare agencies every kind of thing with the 02:08:04

agencies every kind of thing with the 02:08:07

agencies every kind of thing with the one aim of preserving life getting you 02:08:07

one aim of preserving life getting you 02:08:12

one aim of preserving life getting you to live longer and giving what is called 02:08:12

to live longer and giving what is called 02:08:15

to live longer and giving what is called full opportunity for the development of 02:08:15

full opportunity for the development of 02:08:18

full opportunity for the development of your personality to the myriads of Asia 02:08:18

your personality to the myriads of Asia 02:08:23

your personality to the myriads of Asia this is almost unbelievable 02:08:23

02:08:30

and then of course we are teaching the 02:08:30

and then of course we are teaching the 02:08:35

and then of course we are teaching the peoples of Asia medicine and sanitation 02:08:35

peoples of Asia medicine and sanitation 02:08:41

peoples of Asia medicine and sanitation industrialization so that every single 02:08:41

industrialization so that every single 02:08:47

industrialization so that every single coolie child can be regarded not as so 02:08:47

coolie child can be regarded not as so 02:08:51

coolie child can be regarded not as so much waste human material which because 02:08:51

much waste human material which because 02:08:53

much waste human material which because it's sick has to be thrown away but at 02:08:53

it's sick has to be thrown away but at 02:08:56

it's sick has to be thrown away but at some individual to be loved and 02:08:56

some individual to be loved and 02:08:57

some individual to be loved and cherished and properly treated 02:08:57

cherished and properly treated 02:08:59

cherished and properly treated and because individuality the human the 02:08:59

and because individuality the human the 02:09:05

and because individuality the human the the particular each particular human 02:09:05

the particular each particular human 02:09:07

the particular each particular human organism is infinitely precious that is 02:09:08

organism is infinitely precious that is 02:09:12

organism is infinitely precious that is the moving ideal of the sort of people 02:09:12

the moving ideal of the sort of people 02:09:17

the moving ideal of the sort of people who first created the great hospitals 02:09:17

who first created the great hospitals 02:09:21

who first created the great hospitals who abolished slavery who abolished the 02:09:21

who abolished slavery who abolished the 02:09:25

who abolished slavery who abolished the death penalty for trivial offenses who 02:09:25

death penalty for trivial offenses who 02:09:28

death penalty for trivial offenses who made that great humanitarian movement of 02:09:28

made that great humanitarian movement of 02:09:31

made that great humanitarian movement of the 19th century associated with such 02:09:31

the 19th century associated with such 02:09:33

the 19th century associated with such people as Wesley and Charles Dickens and 02:09:33

people as Wesley and Charles Dickens and 02:09:35

people as Wesley and Charles Dickens and Wilberforce and so on to rescue the 02:09:35

Wilberforce and so on to rescue the 02:09:42

Wilberforce and so on to rescue the precious individual from the ravages of 02:09:42

precious individual from the ravages of 02:09:46

precious individual from the ravages of impersonal disease or impersonal 02:09:46

impersonal disease or impersonal 02:09:49

impersonal disease or impersonal political exploitation 02:09:49

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then when a kind of American capitalist 02:09:57

then when a kind of American capitalist 02:10:01

then when a kind of American capitalist liberalism achieved to some extent this 02:10:01

liberalism achieved to some extent this 02:10:05

liberalism achieved to some extent this sort of ideal we look then at political 02:10:05

sort of ideal we look then at political 02:10:09

sort of ideal we look then at political forms which are socialistic communistic 02:10:09

forms which are socialistic communistic 02:10:12

forms which are socialistic communistic and our leery of them because they seem 02:10:12

and our leery of them because they seem 02:10:20

and our leery of them because they seem to go back on all that so of course did 02:10:20

to go back on all that so of course did 02:10:26

to go back on all that so of course did National Socialism in Germany because 02:10:26

National Socialism in Germany because 02:10:29

National Socialism in Germany because the position there is this not the 02:10:29

the position there is this not the 02:10:31

the position there is this not the individual who is the supremely 02:10:31

individual who is the supremely 02:10:33

individual who is the supremely important being but it is the community 02:10:33

important being but it is the community 02:10:36

important being but it is the community the state which is supremely important 02:10:36

the state which is supremely important 02:10:39

the state which is supremely important the individual realizes himself as a 02:10:39

the individual realizes himself as a 02:10:43

the individual realizes himself as a servant of the state but our theory in 02:10:43

servant of the state but our theory in 02:10:47

servant of the state but our theory in the liberal capitalism of the United 02:10:47

the liberal capitalism of the United 02:10:49

the liberal capitalism of the United States is that the state is the servant 02:10:49

States is that the state is the servant 02:10:52

States is that the state is the servant of the individual that we employ 02:10:52

of the individual that we employ 02:10:56

of the individual that we employ policemen and soldiers and sanitary 02:10:56

policemen and soldiers and sanitary 02:11:00

policemen and soldiers and sanitary inspectors and Department of Commerce 02:11:00

inspectors and Department of Commerce 02:11:03

inspectors and Department of Commerce officials all to serve us that we call 02:11:03

officials all to serve us that we call 02:11:06

officials all to serve us that we call them public servants and when a 02:11:06

them public servants and when a 02:11:08

them public servants and when a policeman gets a fish he has to be 02:11:08

policeman gets a fish he has to be 02:11:11

policeman gets a fish he has to be reminded that we paid his salary and 02:11:11

reminded that we paid his salary and 02:11:15

reminded that we paid his salary and that his job is to serve us and not to 02:11:15

that his job is to serve us and not to 02:11:18

that his job is to serve us and not to be a kind of admirable Crichton sort of 02:11:18

be a kind of admirable Crichton sort of 02:11:22

be a kind of admirable Crichton sort of Butler who takes the upper hand but of 02:11:22

Butler who takes the upper hand but of 02:11:26

Butler who takes the upper hand but of course the very idea of a servant still 02:11:26

course the very idea of a servant still 02:11:28

course the very idea of a servant still calls it hasn't it doesn't it something 02:11:28

calls it hasn't it doesn't it something 02:11:30

calls it hasn't it doesn't it something aristocratic and as we all know in this 02:11:30

aristocratic and as we all know in this 02:11:35

aristocratic and as we all know in this country it is increasingly difficult to 02:11:35

country it is increasingly difficult to 02:11:37

country it is increasingly difficult to get services of any kind more and more 02:11:37

get services of any kind more and more 02:11:42

get services of any kind more and more it is felt beneath the individuals 02:11:42

it is felt beneath the individuals 02:11:44

it is felt beneath the individuals dignity to be say a waiter a barber 02:11:44

dignity to be say a waiter a barber 02:11:49

dignity to be say a waiter a barber after all they give you a certain kind 02:11:49

after all they give you a certain kind 02:11:51

after all they give you a certain kind of service certainly it's beneath 02:11:51

of service certainly it's beneath 02:11:53

of service certainly it's beneath anyone's dignity to shine shoes because 02:11:53

anyone's dignity to shine shoes because 02:11:55

anyone's dignity to shine shoes because that's the feet and that's very low 02:11:55

that's the feet and that's very low 02:11:57

that's the feet and that's very low dollars like kissing people's feet 02:11:57

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to give massage to do all these things 02:12:01

to give massage to do all these things 02:12:05

to give massage to do all these things for other people that if there are other 02:12:05

for other people that if there are other 02:12:07

for other people that if there are other material skills increasingly you have to 02:12:07

material skills increasingly you have to 02:12:11

material skills increasingly you have to get them in another way either by a 02:12:11

get them in another way either by a 02:12:13

get them in another way either by a do-it-yourself system or by some sort of 02:12:13

do-it-yourself system or by some sort of 02:12:16

do-it-yourself system or by some sort of machinery and so in the same way people 02:12:16

machinery and so in the same way people 02:12:21

machinery and so in the same way people who used to give service want to 02:12:21

who used to give service want to 02:12:22

who used to give service want to translate themselves professionally 02:12:22

translate themselves professionally 02:12:24

translate themselves professionally people who were formerly called 02:12:24

people who were formerly called 02:12:26

people who were formerly called Undertaker's now call themselves 02:12:26

Undertaker's now call themselves 02:12:28

Undertaker's now call themselves morticians janitors call themselves 02:12:28

morticians janitors call themselves 02:12:34

morticians janitors call themselves maintenance services 02:12:34

02:12:38

I suppose barbers will soon call 02:12:38

I suppose barbers will soon call 02:12:40

I suppose barbers will soon call themselves tonsorial experts now all 02:12:40

themselves tonsorial experts now all 02:12:44

themselves tonsorial experts now all sorts of things like that a good are 02:12:44

sorts of things like that a good are 02:12:46

sorts of things like that a good are happening right now 02:12:46

happening right now 02:12:47

happening right now in order to give the sense of equality 02:12:47

in order to give the sense of equality 02:12:51

in order to give the sense of equality all-round and so the guy who gives you 02:12:51

all-round and so the guy who gives you 02:12:57

all-round and so the guy who gives you gas at the garage will notice your first 02:12:57

gas at the garage will notice your first 02:12:59

gas at the garage will notice your first name on your credit card and will 02:12:59

name on your credit card and will 02:13:01

name on your credit card and will address you by I get very irritated to 02:13:01

address you by I get very irritated to 02:13:04

address you by I get very irritated to be called owl I just don't respond to 02:13:04

be called owl I just don't respond to 02:13:07

be called owl I just don't respond to that form of address at all but I 02:13:07

that form of address at all but I 02:13:10

that form of address at all but I suppose that's my British snobbish but 02:13:10

02:13:16

here it is you know where everybody 02:13:16

here it is you know where everybody 02:13:19

here it is you know where everybody slaps everybody's back I was very 02:13:19

slaps everybody's back I was very 02:13:20

slaps everybody's back I was very puzzled by this when I first came to 02:13:20

puzzled by this when I first came to 02:13:23

puzzled by this when I first came to live in California because here the use 02:13:23

live in California because here the use 02:13:26

live in California because here the use of first names and this kind of 02:13:26

of first names and this kind of 02:13:28

of first names and this kind of familiarity is extraordinarily common 02:13:28

familiarity is extraordinarily common 02:13:31

familiarity is extraordinarily common and when I found myself on first-name 02:13:31

and when I found myself on first-name 02:13:35

and when I found myself on first-name terms with a man who was in a certain 02:13:35

terms with a man who was in a certain 02:13:38

terms with a man who was in a certain sense my boss who was the president of 02:13:38

sense my boss who was the president of 02:13:41

sense my boss who was the president of the University of the Pacific 02:13:41

the University of the Pacific 02:13:43

the University of the Pacific I felt distinctly uncomfortable the 02:13:43

I felt distinctly uncomfortable the 02:13:46

I felt distinctly uncomfortable the reason I felt uncomfortable was that I 02:13:46

reason I felt uncomfortable was that I 02:13:48

reason I felt uncomfortable was that I felt the whole thing was insincere that 02:13:48

felt the whole thing was insincere that 02:13:52

felt the whole thing was insincere that there was not the kind of relationship 02:13:52

there was not the kind of relationship 02:13:54

there was not the kind of relationship between us which would normally be 02:13:54

between us which would normally be 02:13:56

between us which would normally be represented by being on first-name terms 02:13:56

represented by being on first-name terms 02:13:59

represented by being on first-name terms but there was what was much worse and 02:13:59

but there was what was much worse and 02:14:02

but there was what was much worse and sort of effort to prove that there 02:14:02

sort of effort to prove that there 02:14:07

sort of effort to prove that there really ought to be that kind of 02:14:07

really ought to be that kind of 02:14:08

really ought to be that kind of relationship when neither side had any 02:14:08

relationship when neither side had any 02:14:11

relationship when neither side had any intention of for Mia 02:14:11

02:14:15

and that's very baffling if you come 02:14:15

and that's very baffling if you come 02:14:17

and that's very baffling if you come from outside and you don't know I 02:14:17

from outside and you don't know I 02:14:20

from outside and you don't know I suppose what all good born and bred 02:14:20

suppose what all good born and bred 02:14:22

suppose what all good born and bred Californians know what are the cues the 02:14:22

Californians know what are the cues the 02:14:26

Californians know what are the cues the subliminal cues which distinguish one 02:14:26

subliminal cues which distinguish one 02:14:28

subliminal cues which distinguish one form of first name address from another 02:14:28

form of first name address from another 02:14:30

form of first name address from another cause what eventually happens is that 02:14:30

cause what eventually happens is that 02:14:31

cause what eventually happens is that people have two first names the the the 02:14:31

people have two first names the the the 02:14:35

people have two first names the the the published one and the nickname known 02:14:35

published one and the nickname known 02:14:36

published one and the nickname known only to an internet circl used only by 02:14:36

only to an internet circl used only by 02:14:39

only to an internet circl used only by an internet circl about you see what we 02:14:40

an internet circl about you see what we 02:14:45

an internet circl about you see what we see in this then is the creeping 02:14:45

see in this then is the creeping 02:14:48

see in this then is the creeping socialism the creeping abolition of what 02:14:48

socialism the creeping abolition of what 02:14:54

socialism the creeping abolition of what is precious and what is private and what 02:14:54

is precious and what is private and what 02:14:56

is precious and what is private and what is property and feel that as that 02:14:56

is property and feel that as that 02:15:00

is property and feel that as that disappears and as all fences disappear 02:15:00

disappears and as all fences disappear 02:15:03

disappears and as all fences disappear the collection of human beings will 02:15:03

the collection of human beings will 02:15:06

the collection of human beings will simply dissolve into an amorphous mass 02:15:06

02:15:10

and indeed there is a danger of that we 02:15:10

and indeed there is a danger of that we 02:15:16

and indeed there is a danger of that we have seen people disappear into 02:15:16

have seen people disappear into 02:15:18

have seen people disappear into amorphous masses we have seen Hitler's 02:15:18

amorphous masses we have seen Hitler's 02:15:22

amorphous masses we have seen Hitler's legions we have seen the things that 02:15:22

legions we have seen the things that 02:15:27

legions we have seen the things that Chinese can do with what they the 02:15:27

Chinese can do with what they the 02:15:29

Chinese can do with what they the military tactic called the human scene 02:15:29

military tactic called the human scene 02:15:31

military tactic called the human scene when swarms and swarms with troops all 02:15:31

when swarms and swarms with troops all 02:15:35

when swarms and swarms with troops all identically uniformed are absolutely 02:15:35

identically uniformed are absolutely 02:15:37

identically uniformed are absolutely thrown at the enemy in wave after wave 02:15:37

thrown at the enemy in wave after wave 02:15:41

thrown at the enemy in wave after wave after wave but let us not forget that 02:15:41

after wave but let us not forget that 02:15:43

after wave but let us not forget that the generals of the Western powers did 02:15:43

the generals of the Western powers did 02:15:45

the generals of the Western powers did exactly the same thing in the First 02:15:46

exactly the same thing in the First 02:15:47

exactly the same thing in the First World War 02:15:47

World War 02:15:48

World War on both sides they used the tactics of 02:15:48

on both sides they used the tactics of 02:15:52

on both sides they used the tactics of the human sea in which the lives of 02:15:52

the human sea in which the lives of 02:15:56

the human sea in which the lives of individuals meant nothing whatsoever 02:15:56

02:16:03

now 02:16:03

02:16:09

there are two different ways of 02:16:09

there are two different ways of 02:16:12

there are two different ways of responding to what we will call the 02:16:12

responding to what we will call the 02:16:14

responding to what we will call the invasion of privacy very often you will 02:16:14

invasion of privacy very often you will 02:16:23

invasion of privacy very often you will encounter someone who attacks your 02:16:23

encounter someone who attacks your 02:16:27

encounter someone who attacks your privacy in a psychological way it may be 02:16:27

privacy in a psychological way it may be 02:16:32

privacy in a psychological way it may be a drunk sitting next you at a bar or it 02:16:32

a drunk sitting next you at a bar or it 02:16:37

a drunk sitting next you at a bar or it may be someone who fancies himself as an 02:16:37

may be someone who fancies himself as an 02:16:41

may be someone who fancies himself as an expert psychological guru and when you 02:16:41

expert psychological guru and when you 02:16:46

expert psychological guru and when you express an opinion or say you know you 02:16:46

express an opinion or say you know you 02:16:55

express an opinion or say you know you walk up to such an individual and say 02:16:55

walk up to such an individual and say 02:16:57

walk up to such an individual and say good morning how are you thinking this 02:16:57

good morning how are you thinking this 02:17:03

good morning how are you thinking this is why do you ask 02:17:03

02:17:11

and he immediately as he breaks the 02:17:11

and he immediately as he breaks the 02:17:13

and he immediately as he breaks the social rules whereby you communicate 02:17:13

social rules whereby you communicate 02:17:16

social rules whereby you communicate with another person without actually 02:17:16

with another person without actually 02:17:18

with another person without actually saying anything so the phrases like how 02:17:18

saying anything so the phrases like how 02:17:22

saying anything so the phrases like how are you nice day isn't it ah like on a 02:17:22

are you nice day isn't it ah like on a 02:17:25

are you nice day isn't it ah like on a radio buzzing to be sure that the other 02:17:25

radio buzzing to be sure that the other 02:17:29

radio buzzing to be sure that the other side is in communication and so you make 02:17:29

side is in communication and so you make 02:17:32

side is in communication and so you make various noises testing is that so and so 02:17:32

various noises testing is that so and so 02:17:34

various noises testing is that so and so give a call letter etcetera etcetera and 02:17:34

give a call letter etcetera etcetera and 02:17:37

give a call letter etcetera etcetera and you know you're in touch so in the same 02:17:37

you know you're in touch so in the same 02:17:39

you know you're in touch so in the same way we in our general daily converse we 02:17:39

way we in our general daily converse we 02:17:43

way we in our general daily converse we feel each other out by saying these 02:17:43

feel each other out by saying these 02:17:47

feel each other out by saying these little social platitudes and then we 02:17:47

little social platitudes and then we 02:17:51

little social platitudes and then we test the person as to whether they by 02:17:51

test the person as to whether they by 02:17:53

test the person as to whether they by the sound of the voice by the snail 02:17:53

the sound of the voice by the snail 02:17:55

the sound of the voice by the snail which we don't think about that which we 02:17:55

which we don't think about that which we 02:17:57

which we don't think about that which we absorb unconsciously unless they smell 02:17:57

absorb unconsciously unless they smell 02:18:00

absorb unconsciously unless they smell very strong then 02:18:00

02:18:12

complete with bombs and then and then we 02:18:12

complete with bombs and then and then we 02:18:20

complete with bombs and then and then we get the feeling do I want to explore 02:18:20

get the feeling do I want to explore 02:18:23

get the feeling do I want to explore this relationship further we test but 02:18:23

this relationship further we test but 02:18:28

this relationship further we test but then those people who see who invade 02:18:28

then those people who see who invade 02:18:30

then those people who see who invade your privacy instantly it's either the 02:18:30

your privacy instantly it's either the 02:18:35

your privacy instantly it's either the drunk or the child who's quite innocent 02:18:35

drunk or the child who's quite innocent 02:18:38

drunk or the child who's quite innocent or the probing psychologist who is 02:18:38

or the probing psychologist who is 02:18:42

or the probing psychologist who is playing his special game maybe of 02:18:42

playing his special game maybe of 02:18:45

playing his special game maybe of one-upmanship of some kind and this is 02:18:45

one-upmanship of some kind and this is 02:18:48

one-upmanship of some kind and this is how uncomfortable he can make you now 02:18:48

how uncomfortable he can make you now 02:18:51

how uncomfortable he can make you now what are what are the tactics of 02:18:51

what are what are the tactics of 02:18:53

what are what are the tactics of response to be in these various 02:18:53

response to be in these various 02:18:55

response to be in these various situations when you get the probing 02:18:55

situations when you get the probing 02:19:01

situations when you get the probing psychologist you can shrug your 02:19:01

psychologist you can shrug your 02:19:05

psychologist you can shrug your shoulders and say does your mother ever 02:19:05

shoulders and say does your mother ever 02:19:10

shoulders and say does your mother ever teach you manners or you can simply not 02:19:10

teach you manners or you can simply not 02:19:17

teach you manners or you can simply not defend yourself some people just don't 02:19:17

defend yourself some people just don't 02:19:23

defend yourself some people just don't need to defend themselves at all 02:19:23

need to defend themselves at all 02:19:25

need to defend themselves at all and so they're probing them in that way 02:19:25

and so they're probing them in that way 02:19:29

and so they're probing them in that way is like tossing a rock into a well and 02:19:29

is like tossing a rock into a well and 02:19:32

is like tossing a rock into a well and you wait and there's no splash and that 02:19:32

you wait and there's no splash and that 02:19:39

you wait and there's no splash and that really sets people back Krishnamurthy 02:19:39

really sets people back Krishnamurthy 02:19:44

really sets people back Krishnamurthy does that if you make a comment about 02:19:44

does that if you make a comment about 02:19:48

does that if you make a comment about somebody in his presence that is in any 02:19:48

somebody in his presence that is in any 02:19:52

somebody in his presence that is in any way adverse or critical he gives us no 02:19:52

way adverse or critical he gives us no 02:19:55

way adverse or critical he gives us no response at all so if you suddenly feel 02:19:55

response at all so if you suddenly feel 02:19:58

response at all so if you suddenly feel like the Buddha said you spat at the sky 02:19:58

like the Buddha said you spat at the sky 02:20:01

like the Buddha said you spat at the sky and the spit falls back into your own 02:20:01

and the spit falls back into your own 02:20:02

and the spit falls back into your own fairies 02:20:02

02:20:07

and I was once present where a certain 02:20:07

and I was once present where a certain 02:20:15

and I was once present where a certain person of that nature was using as his 02:20:15

person of that nature was using as his 02:20:21

person of that nature was using as his ploy silence and the silence implied the 02:20:21

ploy silence and the silence implied the 02:20:26

ploy silence and the silence implied the conversation of everyone else around 02:20:26

conversation of everyone else around 02:20:28

conversation of everyone else around this table is trivial it was one of 02:20:28

this table is trivial it was one of 02:20:32

this table is trivial it was one of those tangible silences and suddenly 02:20:32

those tangible silences and suddenly 02:20:37

those tangible silences and suddenly someone at the table turned him and said 02:20:37

someone at the table turned him and said 02:20:40

someone at the table turned him and said you know I can't stand people who use 02:20:40

you know I can't stand people who use 02:20:43

you know I can't stand people who use silence as a weapon no conversation then 02:20:43

silence as a weapon no conversation then 02:20:56

silence as a weapon no conversation then started but yeah and it was a very 02:20:56

started but yeah and it was a very 02:21:03

started but yeah and it was a very rather a disagreeable conversation so 02:21:03

rather a disagreeable conversation so 02:21:18

rather a disagreeable conversation so there is you see always the the response 02:21:18

there is you see always the the response 02:21:21

there is you see always the the response to psychological attack an invasion of 02:21:21

to psychological attack an invasion of 02:21:23

to psychological attack an invasion of privacy as Allen Ginsberg does it 02:21:23

privacy as Allen Ginsberg does it 02:21:28

privacy as Allen Ginsberg does it if anybody presses hit on him too hard 02:21:28

if anybody presses hit on him too hard 02:21:31

if anybody presses hit on him too hard he'll strip naked and if anybody 02:21:31

he'll strip naked and if anybody 02:21:36

he'll strip naked and if anybody challenges him to fight he said all 02:21:36

challenges him to fight he said all 02:21:37

challenges him to fight he said all right you challenged me I choose the 02:21:37

right you challenged me I choose the 02:21:39

right you challenged me I choose the weapons who's gonna undress first 02:21:39

02:21:47

and he has this kind of marvelous 02:21:47

and he has this kind of marvelous 02:21:51

and he has this kind of marvelous feeling that there really isn't anything 02:21:51

feeling that there really isn't anything 02:21:53

feeling that there really isn't anything that he's hiding I don't know maybe but 02:21:53

that he's hiding I don't know maybe but 02:21:56

that he's hiding I don't know maybe but certainly that doesn't impress me as 02:21:56

certainly that doesn't impress me as 02:21:58

certainly that doesn't impress me as anyone who really hides anything so that 02:21:58

anyone who really hides anything so that 02:22:03

anyone who really hides anything so that you see to enter into a human 02:22:03

you see to enter into a human 02:22:06

you see to enter into a human relationship where there is nothing to 02:22:06

relationship where there is nothing to 02:22:09

relationship where there is nothing to hide and you don't depend on any sort of 02:22:09

hide and you don't depend on any sort of 02:22:12

hide and you don't depend on any sort of property gimmick for your personal worth 02:22:12

property gimmick for your personal worth 02:22:19

property gimmick for your personal worth and that's the thing we get very easily 02:22:19

and that's the thing we get very easily 02:22:21

and that's the thing we get very easily hooked on it may be your car maybe your 02:22:21

hooked on it may be your car maybe your 02:22:26

hooked on it may be your car maybe your clothes it may be your cameras your 02:22:26

clothes it may be your cameras your 02:22:30

clothes it may be your cameras your style of watches your fountain pens your 02:22:30

style of watches your fountain pens your 02:22:33

style of watches your fountain pens your heaven only knows what your home that 02:22:33

heaven only knows what your home that 02:22:36

heaven only knows what your home that you possess and that is inseparable from 02:22:36

you possess and that is inseparable from 02:22:39

you possess and that is inseparable from your personality and you can't be you if 02:22:39

your personality and you can't be you if 02:22:43

your personality and you can't be you if you'll start naked 02:22:43

02:22:48

so the confrontation of people in an 02:22:48

so the confrontation of people in an 02:22:51

so the confrontation of people in an atmosphere of physical or spiritual 02:22:51

atmosphere of physical or spiritual 02:22:53

atmosphere of physical or spiritual nakedness is one where many individuals 02:22:53

nakedness is one where many individuals 02:22:58

nakedness is one where many individuals seem they have completely lost because 02:22:58

seem they have completely lost because 02:23:01

seem they have completely lost because they can't play they're accustomed bro 02:23:01

02:23:08

because I have a certain advantage that 02:23:08

because I have a certain advantage that 02:23:09

because I have a certain advantage that even if I'm to start naked I can still 02:23:09

even if I'm to start naked I can still 02:23:11

even if I'm to start naked I can still talk but now supposing they say now you 02:23:11

talk but now supposing they say now you 02:23:18

talk but now supposing they say now you shut up don't defend yourself with 02:23:18

shut up don't defend yourself with 02:23:26

shut up don't defend yourself with language that's like taking off her an 02:23:26

language that's like taking off her an 02:23:32

language that's like taking off her an extra set of clothes but as I say 02:23:32

extra set of clothes but as I say 02:23:38

extra set of clothes but as I say there's a certain kind of individual 02:23:38

there's a certain kind of individual 02:23:39

there's a certain kind of individual whom this doesn't faze at all because he 02:23:39

whom this doesn't faze at all because he 02:23:43

whom this doesn't faze at all because he knew from the beginning he was nothing 02:23:43

02:23:50

and nobody and of course that's a very 02:23:50

and nobody and of course that's a very 02:23:54

and nobody and of course that's a very important thing to know because you have 02:23:54

important thing to know because you have 02:23:58

important thing to know because you have nothing to lose he who sleeps on the 02:23:58

nothing to lose he who sleeps on the 02:24:02

nothing to lose he who sleeps on the floor will not fall out of bed and he 02:24:02

floor will not fall out of bed and he 02:24:06

floor will not fall out of bed and he who has nothing to lose 02:24:06

who has nothing to lose 02:24:08

who has nothing to lose has really no fear either of the loss of 02:24:08

has really no fear either of the loss of 02:24:10

has really no fear either of the loss of his property his propriety or his 02:24:10

his property his propriety or his 02:24:14

his property his propriety or his privacy but there are other people who 02:24:14

privacy but there are other people who 02:24:24

privacy but there are other people who in this situation of the loss of privacy 02:24:24

in this situation of the loss of privacy 02:24:28

in this situation of the loss of privacy are completely degraded the way for 02:24:28

are completely degraded the way for 02:24:33

are completely degraded the way for example we systematically deprive 02:24:33

example we systematically deprive 02:24:36

example we systematically deprive privacy of the from the intimate inmates 02:24:36

privacy of the from the intimate inmates 02:24:39

privacy of the from the intimate inmates of prisons and mental hospitals you go 02:24:39

of prisons and mental hospitals you go 02:24:45

of prisons and mental hospitals you go to a mental hospital all the John's are 02:24:45

to a mental hospital all the John's are 02:24:48

to a mental hospital all the John's are completely exposed 02:24:48

02:24:51

everything is smooth walls there are no 02:24:51

everything is smooth walls there are no 02:24:55

everything is smooth walls there are no corners there are no secrets everybody 02:24:55

corners there are no secrets everybody 02:25:00

corners there are no secrets everybody sort of herded around and they all look 02:25:00

sort of herded around and they all look 02:25:02

sort of herded around and they all look the same but the same uniform have the 02:25:02

the same but the same uniform have the 02:25:04

the same but the same uniform have the same haircut and and also in the army 02:25:05

same haircut and and also in the army 02:25:09

same haircut and and also in the army and they say in the marine boot camps 02:25:09

and they say in the marine boot camps 02:25:12

and they say in the marine boot camps the same the first thing is to degrade 02:25:12

the same the first thing is to degrade 02:25:15

the same the first thing is to degrade the individual ritually so that he has 02:25:15

the individual ritually so that he has 02:25:19

the individual ritually so that he has no privacy 02:25:19

no privacy 02:25:21

no privacy and to see what happens to him if you do 02:25:21

and to see what happens to him if you do 02:25:25

and to see what happens to him if you do that now you may the result of this is 02:25:25

that now you may the result of this is 02:25:28

that now you may the result of this is that you may brainwash him completely 02:25:28

that you may brainwash him completely 02:25:30

that you may brainwash him completely and make him nothing more than an 02:25:30

and make him nothing more than an 02:25:36

and make him nothing more than an obedient tool of the system and in this 02:25:36

obedient tool of the system and in this 02:25:42

obedient tool of the system and in this case you see what you've got you're back 02:25:42

case you see what you've got you're back 02:25:44

case you see what you've got you're back again to monarchical politics and so in 02:25:44

again to monarchical politics and so in 02:25:51

again to monarchical politics and so in a system where the design of the the 02:25:51

a system where the design of the the 02:25:56

a system where the design of the the politics is that the community of human 02:25:56

politics is that the community of human 02:26:01

politics is that the community of human beings is ruled whether by an individual 02:26:01

beings is ruled whether by an individual 02:26:04

beings is ruled whether by an individual monarch or by a totalitarian state makes 02:26:04

monarch or by a totalitarian state makes 02:26:07

monarch or by a totalitarian state makes no difference but the dynamics of that 02:26:07

no difference but the dynamics of that 02:26:11

no difference but the dynamics of that situation is that this community is not 02:26:11

situation is that this community is not 02:26:14

situation is that this community is not a group it is a crowd now we therefore 02:26:14

a group it is a crowd now we therefore 02:26:19

a group it is a crowd now we therefore have to understand the difference 02:26:19

have to understand the difference 02:26:21

have to understand the difference between a group and a crowd because this 02:26:21

between a group and a crowd because this 02:26:24

between a group and a crowd because this is the key to the whole thing and if you 02:26:24

is the key to the whole thing and if you 02:26:26

is the key to the whole thing and if you understand this you can get round the 02:26:26

understand this you can get round the 02:26:28

understand this you can get round the things that seem threatening in the 02:26:28

things that seem threatening in the 02:26:30

things that seem threatening in the society where there is no privacy 02:26:30

society where there is no privacy 02:26:34

society where there is no privacy the crowd is structured in this way 02:26:34

the crowd is structured in this way 02:26:37

the crowd is structured in this way there is a number of identical 02:26:37

there is a number of identical 02:26:42

there is a number of identical individuals suitably brainwashed and 02:26:42

individuals suitably brainwashed and 02:26:49

individuals suitably brainwashed and there is a leader whether this is an 02:26:49

there is a leader whether this is an 02:26:54

there is a leader whether this is an individual again or a bureaucratic 02:26:54

individual again or a bureaucratic 02:26:57

individual again or a bureaucratic entity of some kind the relationship 02:26:57

entity of some kind the relationship 02:27:00

entity of some kind the relationship between them is this 02:27:00

02:27:06

in other words the line of communication 02:27:06

in other words the line of communication 02:27:10

in other words the line of communication is from the individual to the leader and 02:27:10

02:27:20

they don't really they're not really in 02:27:20

they don't really they're not really in 02:27:22

they don't really they're not really in communication with each other at all 02:27:22

communication with each other at all 02:27:25

communication with each other at all except insofar they may communicate with 02:27:25

except insofar they may communicate with 02:27:28

except insofar they may communicate with each other but this controls the nature 02:27:28

each other but this controls the nature 02:27:30

each other but this controls the nature of their communication so in other words 02:27:31

of their communication so in other words 02:27:33

of their communication so in other words when a politician speaks to an enormous 02:27:34

when a politician speaks to an enormous 02:27:36

when a politician speaks to an enormous audience what he sets up is a crowd 02:27:36

audience what he sets up is a crowd 02:27:43

audience what he sets up is a crowd because the audience they are 02:27:43

because the audience they are 02:27:46

because the audience they are individuals who don't know each other 02:27:46

individuals who don't know each other 02:27:48

individuals who don't know each other they're just people they're just heads 02:27:48

they're just people they're just heads 02:27:50

they're just people they're just heads or hands and so the leader really 02:27:50

or hands and so the leader really 02:27:57

or hands and so the leader really communicates with them and they can't 02:27:57

communicates with them and they can't 02:28:00

communicates with them and they can't answer back unless they do so as a group 02:28:00

answer back unless they do so as a group 02:28:04

answer back unless they do so as a group Sieg Heil 02:28:04

Sieg Heil 02:28:05

Sieg Heil you know then they answer back but all 02:28:05

you know then they answer back but all 02:28:08

you know then they answer back but all as a collective because along the lines 02:28:08

as a collective because along the lines 02:28:11

as a collective because along the lines of this kind of communication supposing 02:28:11

of this kind of communication supposing 02:28:13

of this kind of communication supposing I talk to a whole thousand people over 02:28:13

I talk to a whole thousand people over 02:28:16

I talk to a whole thousand people over the radio and they all send me back 02:28:16

the radio and they all send me back 02:28:18

the radio and they all send me back letters well I can't read them much less 02:28:18

letters well I can't read them much less 02:28:21

letters well I can't read them much less answer them there isn't time so this is 02:28:21

answer them there isn't time so this is 02:28:25

answer them there isn't time so this is a strictly one-way communication now 02:28:25

a strictly one-way communication now 02:28:29

a strictly one-way communication now then let's look in contrast to that to 02:28:29

then let's look in contrast to that to 02:28:31

then let's look in contrast to that to the design of a group we'll make it a 02:28:31

the design of a group we'll make it a 02:28:35

the design of a group we'll make it a circle again for convenience 02:28:35

02:28:39

now the group has no leader because it 02:28:39

now the group has no leader because it 02:28:45

now the group has no leader because it is itself an organism and so the lines 02:28:45

is itself an organism and so the lines 02:28:47

is itself an organism and so the lines of communication run first of all like 02:28:47

of communication run first of all like 02:28:49

of communication run first of all like this very well drawn was they were an 02:28:49

this very well drawn was they were an 02:28:57

this very well drawn was they were an odd number in it at the thought 02:28:57

02:29:07

now they're much more complicated than 02:29:07

now they're much more complicated than 02:29:08

now they're much more complicated than that they are also this 02:29:08

02:29:19

now I see what's going on let's go this 02:29:19

now I see what's going on let's go this 02:29:23

now I see what's going on let's go this one around who isn't he talking to yet 02:29:23

one around who isn't he talking to yet 02:29:24

one around who isn't he talking to yet he isn't talking to that one talking to 02:29:24

he isn't talking to that one talking to 02:29:27

he isn't talking to that one talking to this one to this one you see how I'm not 02:29:27

this one to this one you see how I'm not 02:29:29

this one to this one you see how I'm not gonna draw this oh and take forever but 02:29:30

gonna draw this oh and take forever but 02:29:32

gonna draw this oh and take forever but the thing is that these that this sort 02:29:32

the thing is that these that this sort 02:29:35

the thing is that these that this sort of pattern is group communication this 02:29:35

of pattern is group communication this 02:29:38

of pattern is group communication this sort of pattern is crowd communication 02:29:38

sort of pattern is crowd communication 02:29:40

sort of pattern is crowd communication so a group an effective group a true 02:29:40

so a group an effective group a true 02:29:44

so a group an effective group a true group of human beings is one in which 02:29:44

group of human beings is one in which 02:29:48

group of human beings is one in which there are enough people or not too many 02:29:48

there are enough people or not too many 02:29:54

there are enough people or not too many people so that they can all know each 02:29:54

people so that they can all know each 02:29:56

people so that they can all know each other and are in communication with each 02:29:56

other and are in communication with each 02:30:01

other and are in communication with each other now then you say how do you relate 02:30:01

other now then you say how do you relate 02:30:04

other now then you say how do you relate that sort of a cell to the larger human 02:30:04

that sort of a cell to the larger human 02:30:08

that sort of a cell to the larger human group why very simply every group 02:30:08

group why very simply every group 02:30:13

group why very simply every group appoints one cell to represented and 02:30:13

appoints one cell to represented and 02:30:17

appoints one cell to represented and that cell goes and joins a group of 02:30:17

that cell goes and joins a group of 02:30:22

that cell goes and joins a group of representative cells and they have to be 02:30:22

representative cells and they have to be 02:30:25

representative cells and they have to be of adequate size for them all to be in 02:30:25

of adequate size for them all to be in 02:30:27

of adequate size for them all to be in touch with each other 02:30:27

touch with each other 02:30:29

touch with each other and if it's necessary to go higher than 02:30:29

and if it's necessary to go higher than 02:30:32

and if it's necessary to go higher than that and include a still number greater 02:30:32

that and include a still number greater 02:30:35

that and include a still number greater number of collectivity of small cells 02:30:35

number of collectivity of small cells 02:30:37

number of collectivity of small cells through the representative group 02:30:37

through the representative group 02:30:40

through the representative group representative sub one will represent 02:30:40

representative sub one will represent 02:30:43

representative sub one will represent elect representative sub two to go to a 02:30:43

elect representative sub two to go to a 02:30:47

elect representative sub two to go to a representative group of sub twos and in 02:30:47

representative group of sub twos and in 02:30:52

representative group of sub twos and in this method which is the actual original 02:30:52

this method which is the actual original 02:30:54

this method which is the actual original design of the Republic of the United 02:30:54

design of the Republic of the United 02:30:57

design of the Republic of the United States which of course has been 02:30:57

States which of course has been 02:30:59

States which of course has been completely overlooked you get a 02:30:59

completely overlooked you get a 02:31:03

completely overlooked you get a hierarchy of cell structures where 02:31:03

02:31:16

because I am in communication with you 02:31:16

because I am in communication with you 02:31:19

because I am in communication with you here and I'm fully occupied in this 02:31:19

here and I'm fully occupied in this 02:31:22

here and I'm fully occupied in this system of communication the chances are 02:31:22

system of communication the chances are 02:31:25

system of communication the chances are that I don't know a great deal about 02:31:25

that I don't know a great deal about 02:31:26

that I don't know a great deal about what other cell groups are doing because 02:31:26

what other cell groups are doing because 02:31:30

what other cell groups are doing because it's too complicated for me to scan but 02:31:30

it's too complicated for me to scan but 02:31:34

it's too complicated for me to scan but therefore we will delegate one 02:31:34

therefore we will delegate one 02:31:36

therefore we will delegate one particular individual and say you make a 02:31:36

particular individual and say you make a 02:31:39

particular individual and say you make a specialty of scanning these other groups 02:31:39

specialty of scanning these other groups 02:31:41

specialty of scanning these other groups around here so that you have a wider 02:31:41

around here so that you have a wider 02:31:43

around here so that you have a wider knowledge and so it goes so that you 02:31:43

knowledge and so it goes so that you 02:31:48

knowledge and so it goes so that you have a hierarchical system of 02:31:48

have a hierarchical system of 02:31:51

have a hierarchical system of communication you you can call it 02:31:51

communication you you can call it 02:31:53

communication you you can call it government if you want to because of 02:31:53

government if you want to because of 02:31:55

government if you want to because of what we are simply talking about is an 02:31:55

what we are simply talking about is an 02:31:58

what we are simply talking about is an information system so that for example 02:31:58

information system so that for example 02:32:03

information system so that for example one of these will not ever individually 02:32:03

one of these will not ever individually 02:32:06

one of these will not ever individually elect the President of the United States 02:32:06

elect the President of the United States 02:32:09

elect the President of the United States but his representative at a certain 02:32:09

but his representative at a certain 02:32:12

but his representative at a certain level will because his representative a 02:32:12

level will because his representative a 02:32:14

level will because his representative a certain level knows far more about who 02:32:14

certain level knows far more about who 02:32:17

certain level knows far more about who to select than he does 02:32:17

to select than he does 02:32:19

to select than he does because he's made it his business to do 02:32:19

because he's made it his business to do 02:32:21

because he's made it his business to do so every individual can't do that and so 02:32:21

so every individual can't do that and so 02:32:25

so every individual can't do that and so you will find that this is the system of 02:32:25

you will find that this is the system of 02:32:28

you will find that this is the system of direct representation used by all 02:32:28

direct representation used by all 02:32:32

direct representation used by all dictators all dictators vote themselves 02:32:32

dictators all dictators vote themselves 02:32:34

dictators all dictators vote themselves into office by referendum they take it 02:32:35

into office by referendum they take it 02:32:38

into office by referendum they take it to the people and say you are the people 02:32:38

to the people and say you are the people 02:32:40

to the people and say you are the people you elect me well it's the easiest thing 02:32:40

you elect me well it's the easiest thing 02:32:43

you elect me well it's the easiest thing in the world to bamboozle 02:32:43

in the world to bamboozle 02:32:45

in the world to bamboozle an enormous number of people by mass 02:32:45

an enormous number of people by mass 02:32:49

an enormous number of people by mass persuasion to do practically anything 02:32:49

persuasion to do practically anything 02:32:52

persuasion to do practically anything you want but you can't bamboozle that 02:32:52

you want but you can't bamboozle that 02:32:55

you want but you can't bamboozle that kind of structure it's too strong 02:32:55

02:33:00

here was the mass communication to see 02:33:00

here was the mass communication to see 02:33:03

here was the mass communication to see everybody getting the same thing now 02:33:03

everybody getting the same thing now 02:33:07

everybody getting the same thing now oddly enough you see McLuhan in his 02:33:07

oddly enough you see McLuhan in his 02:33:09

oddly enough you see McLuhan in his thought about the future of 02:33:09

thought about the future of 02:33:11

thought about the future of communications says that with the 02:33:11

communications says that with the 02:33:15

communications says that with the development of the electronic circuits 02:33:15

development of the electronic circuits 02:33:17

development of the electronic circuits we tend towards tribalism and this 02:33:17

we tend towards tribalism and this 02:33:25

we tend towards tribalism and this precisely is tribalism this is the 02:33:25

precisely is tribalism this is the 02:33:29

precisely is tribalism this is the monolithic state this is the tribal 02:33:30

monolithic state this is the tribal 02:33:33

monolithic state this is the tribal community this is utterly paternalistic 02:33:33

community this is utterly paternalistic 02:33:37

community this is utterly paternalistic but this is different this is gives 02:33:37

but this is different this is gives 02:33:43

but this is different this is gives everybody a chance to have itself and 02:33:43

everybody a chance to have itself and 02:33:47

everybody a chance to have itself and have a say so not only in terms of a 02:33:47

have a say so not only in terms of a 02:33:49

have a say so not only in terms of a yes-or-no vote but the thing the unit 02:33:49

yes-or-no vote but the thing the unit 02:33:52

yes-or-no vote but the thing the unit the tribe is small enough for there to 02:33:52

the tribe is small enough for there to 02:33:54

the tribe is small enough for there to be a discussion and that's why we can't 02:33:54

be a discussion and that's why we can't 02:33:57

be a discussion and that's why we can't understand about Indians 02:33:57

understand about Indians 02:33:58

understand about Indians Amerindians why they don't like the idea 02:33:58

Amerindians why they don't like the idea 02:34:01

Amerindians why they don't like the idea of voting they have a powwow 02:34:01

of voting they have a powwow 02:34:05

of voting they have a powwow they're like Quakers the Quakers don't 02:34:05

they're like Quakers the Quakers don't 02:34:07

they're like Quakers the Quakers don't vote they get what they call a sense of 02:34:07

vote they get what they call a sense of 02:34:10

vote they get what they call a sense of the meeting because they all know each 02:34:10

the meeting because they all know each 02:34:13

the meeting because they all know each other and they consider putting a thing 02:34:13

other and they consider putting a thing 02:34:15

other and they consider putting a thing to a vote as a kind of unreasonable 02:34:15

to a vote as a kind of unreasonable 02:34:18

to a vote as a kind of unreasonable procedure we should all get together and 02:34:18

procedure we should all get together and 02:34:22

procedure we should all get together and feel it out and establish through 02:34:22

feel it out and establish through 02:34:24

feel it out and establish through discussion a consensus so this as I say 02:34:24

discussion a consensus so this as I say 02:34:31

discussion a consensus so this as I say is a very strong human cluster very 02:34:31

is a very strong human cluster very 02:34:34

is a very strong human cluster very difficult to be pushed around by this 02:34:34

difficult to be pushed around by this 02:34:37

difficult to be pushed around by this now as we have developed electronic 02:34:37

now as we have developed electronic 02:34:40

now as we have developed electronic communications thus far we have things 02:34:40

communications thus far we have things 02:34:43

communications thus far we have things like great national hookups so everybody 02:34:43

like great national hookups so everybody 02:34:48

like great national hookups so everybody in the United States is watching 02:34:48

in the United States is watching 02:34:50

in the United States is watching whatever it is that comes over ABC or 02:34:50

whatever it is that comes over ABC or 02:34:52

whatever it is that comes over ABC or NBC at the major hours and but that is I 02:34:52

NBC at the major hours and but that is I 02:35:00

NBC at the major hours and but that is I think a very temporary phenomenon with 02:35:00

think a very temporary phenomenon with 02:35:04

think a very temporary phenomenon with the development of uhf ultra high 02:35:04

the development of uhf ultra high 02:35:07

the development of uhf ultra high frequency television broadcasting and 02:35:07

frequency television broadcasting and 02:35:10

frequency television broadcasting and the more we 02:35:10

the more we 02:35:13

the more we develop micro electric machinery the 02:35:13

develop micro electric machinery the 02:35:22

develop micro electric machinery the greater the capacity for the 02:35:22

greater the capacity for the 02:35:26

greater the capacity for the discrimination on the dial see as it is 02:35:26

discrimination on the dial see as it is 02:35:30

discrimination on the dial see as it is you get a lot of interference and 02:35:30

you get a lot of interference and 02:35:31

you get a lot of interference and therefore it cuts out the possibility of 02:35:31

therefore it cuts out the possibility of 02:35:35

therefore it cuts out the possibility of an innumerable cluster of stations but 02:35:35

an innumerable cluster of stations but 02:35:38

an innumerable cluster of stations but as the technology becomes more perfect 02:35:38

as the technology becomes more perfect 02:35:41

as the technology becomes more perfect you can receive an enormous number of 02:35:41

you can receive an enormous number of 02:35:43

you can receive an enormous number of different stations and these stations 02:35:43

different stations and these stations 02:35:46

different stations and these stations will increasingly have machinery that 02:35:46

will increasingly have machinery that 02:35:49

will increasingly have machinery that makes them fairly simple to run for 02:35:49

makes them fairly simple to run for 02:35:52

makes them fairly simple to run for example with a video tape machine now 02:35:52

example with a video tape machine now 02:35:56

example with a video tape machine now made by Ampex costing six thousand 02:35:56

made by Ampex costing six thousand 02:35:59

made by Ampex costing six thousand dollars and a sony television camera 02:35:59

dollars and a sony television camera 02:36:02

dollars and a sony television camera costing two hundred and fifty dollars 02:36:02

costing two hundred and fifty dollars 02:36:04

costing two hundred and fifty dollars you can produce a television show with 02:36:04

you can produce a television show with 02:36:07

you can produce a television show with only one technician the average TV show 02:36:07

only one technician the average TV show 02:36:11

only one technician the average TV show produced in the studio requires fourteen 02:36:11

produced in the studio requires fourteen 02:36:13

produced in the studio requires fourteen technicians to handle it so as this 02:36:13

technicians to handle it so as this 02:36:18

technicians to handle it so as this happens you see it means that there can 02:36:18

happens you see it means that there can 02:36:20

happens you see it means that there can be an increasing variety of the kind of 02:36:20

be an increasing variety of the kind of 02:36:25

be an increasing variety of the kind of material that is presented through the 02:36:25

material that is presented through the 02:36:28

material that is presented through the electronic channels 02:36:28

02:36:33

the McLuhan adds to this a kind of 02:36:33

the McLuhan adds to this a kind of 02:36:35

the McLuhan adds to this a kind of strange point of view which is that it 02:36:35

strange point of view which is that it 02:36:38

strange point of view which is that it really doesn't matter what kind of 02:36:38

really doesn't matter what kind of 02:36:40

really doesn't matter what kind of material is going over because the 02:36:40

material is going over because the 02:36:44

material is going over because the message is not the content of the 02:36:44

message is not the content of the 02:36:47

message is not the content of the television show but your exposure to and 02:36:47

television show but your exposure to and 02:36:50

television show but your exposure to and involvement in that kind of a medium 02:36:50

involvement in that kind of a medium 02:36:54

involvement in that kind of a medium well there's something to this that when 02:36:54

well there's something to this that when 02:37:04

well there's something to this that when you touch a person physically which is a 02:37:04

you touch a person physically which is a 02:37:07

you touch a person physically which is a sort of their direct communication you 02:37:07

sort of their direct communication you 02:37:10

sort of their direct communication you don't necessarily say anything it is 02:37:10

don't necessarily say anything it is 02:37:14

don't necessarily say anything it is just the act of touching that may give 02:37:14

just the act of touching that may give 02:37:17

just the act of touching that may give the message or the massage of affection 02:37:17

the message or the massage of affection 02:37:21

the message or the massage of affection or love and so people love to wander 02:37:21

or love and so people love to wander 02:37:28

or love and so people love to wander into the streets and mingle with a crowd 02:37:28

into the streets and mingle with a crowd 02:37:30

into the streets and mingle with a crowd of shoppers especially a colorful crowd 02:37:30

of shoppers especially a colorful crowd 02:37:32

of shoppers especially a colorful crowd going back and forth and the feeling of 02:37:32

going back and forth and the feeling of 02:37:34

going back and forth and the feeling of all the interesting people around a 02:37:34

all the interesting people around a 02:37:35

all the interesting people around a living and saying do anything to each 02:37:35

living and saying do anything to each 02:37:37

living and saying do anything to each other in words but this this the 02:37:37

other in words but this this the 02:37:40

other in words but this this the exciting feeling of being involved in 02:37:40

exciting feeling of being involved in 02:37:42

exciting feeling of being involved in this colorful goings-on and so in the 02:37:42

this colorful goings-on and so in the 02:37:46

this colorful goings-on and so in the same way when we are plugged in if not 02:37:46

same way when we are plugged in if not 02:37:51

same way when we are plugged in if not turned on to a huge in an outing of 02:37:51

turned on to a huge in an outing of 02:38:00

turned on to a huge in an outing of human communication we feel very like an 02:38:00

human communication we feel very like an 02:38:04

human communication we feel very like an old Italian peasant lady leaning on the 02:38:04

old Italian peasant lady leaning on the 02:38:12

old Italian peasant lady leaning on the windowsill and gazing at the busy street 02:38:12

02:38:17

watching life flow by and in a way you 02:38:17

watching life flow by and in a way you 02:38:21

watching life flow by and in a way you see the something when you see it in 02:38:21

see the something when you see it in 02:38:23

see the something when you see it in terms of the old Italian mama watching 02:38:23

terms of the old Italian mama watching 02:38:27

terms of the old Italian mama watching the world go by 02:38:27

the world go by 02:38:28

the world go by there's something very fundamentally 02:38:28

there's something very fundamentally 02:38:31

there's something very fundamentally good about that something we associate 02:38:31

good about that something we associate 02:38:34

good about that something we associate with colorful villages exciting streets 02:38:34

with colorful villages exciting streets 02:38:40

with colorful villages exciting streets and the romance of an archaic peasant 02:38:40

and the romance of an archaic peasant 02:38:45

and the romance of an archaic peasant type person but you see that that sort 02:38:45

type person but you see that that sort 02:38:50

type person but you see that that sort of thing of watching and ever varying 02:38:50

of thing of watching and ever varying 02:38:54

of thing of watching and ever varying panorama of life is not completely 02:38:54

panorama of life is not completely 02:38:57

panorama of life is not completely excluded by electronic technology 02:38:57

excluded by electronic technology 02:39:00

excluded by electronic technology especially if people in their net 02:39:00

especially if people in their net 02:39:06

especially if people in their net structure are organized here has true 02:39:06

structure are organized here has true 02:39:10

structure are organized here has true Nets this is not a true net this is just 02:39:10

Nets this is not a true net this is just 02:39:17

Nets this is not a true net this is just a trap one of the reasons is that 02:39:17

a trap one of the reasons is that 02:39:23

a trap one of the reasons is that our technology is impeded and prevented 02:39:23

our technology is impeded and prevented 02:39:31

our technology is impeded and prevented from feeding the world properly is the 02:39:31

from feeding the world properly is the 02:39:34

from feeding the world properly is the failure of one of our networks it's an 02:39:34

failure of one of our networks it's an 02:39:40

failure of one of our networks it's an information network and it's called 02:39:40

information network and it's called 02:39:42

information network and it's called money about which we have the most 02:39:42

money about which we have the most 02:39:46

money about which we have the most unbelievable superstitions and 02:39:46

unbelievable superstitions and 02:39:51

unbelievable superstitions and psychological blocks which have been 02:39:51

psychological blocks which have been 02:39:53

psychological blocks which have been gone into at some length by Freud who 02:39:53

gone into at some length by Freud who 02:39:57

gone into at some length by Freud who equates our valuation of money with our 02:39:57

equates our valuation of money with our 02:40:00

equates our valuation of money with our attitude to excrement and a very 02:40:00

attitude to excrement and a very 02:40:05

attitude to excrement and a very complicated lot of complexes grow up 02:40:05

complicated lot of complexes grow up 02:40:07

complicated lot of complexes grow up around that money and our psychological 02:40:07

around that money and our psychological 02:40:11

around that money and our psychological attitude to money is a major obstacle to 02:40:11

attitude to money is a major obstacle to 02:40:19

attitude to money is a major obstacle to a proper development of technology 02:40:19

a proper development of technology 02:40:22

a proper development of technology enabling it to do what it is supposed to 02:40:22

enabling it to do what it is supposed to 02:40:25

enabling it to do what it is supposed to do that is to save labor and to produce 02:40:25

do that is to save labor and to produce 02:40:31

do that is to save labor and to produce goods services and so on adequately so I 02:40:31

goods services and so on adequately so I 02:40:37

goods services and so on adequately so I must introduce this with a story which 02:40:37

must introduce this with a story which 02:40:39

must introduce this with a story which is entirely legendary indeed quite 02:40:39

is entirely legendary indeed quite 02:40:42

is entirely legendary indeed quite apocryphal the great banks of the world 02:40:42

apocryphal the great banks of the world 02:40:46

apocryphal the great banks of the world at one time got absolutely sick of the 02:40:46

at one time got absolutely sick of the 02:40:50

at one time got absolutely sick of the expense and security measures involved 02:40:50

expense and security measures involved 02:40:52

expense and security measures involved in shipping consignments of gold from 02:40:52

in shipping consignments of gold from 02:40:55

in shipping consignments of gold from one bank to another and so they decided 02:40:55

one bank to another and so they decided 02:40:59

one bank to another and so they decided that all the chief banks of the world 02:40:59

that all the chief banks of the world 02:41:01

that all the chief banks of the world would open offices on a certain island 02:41:01

would open offices on a certain island 02:41:06

would open offices on a certain island in the South Pacific which was balmy and 02:41:06

in the South Pacific which was balmy and 02:41:08

in the South Pacific which was balmy and comfortable and there they would store 02:41:08

comfortable and there they would store 02:41:12

comfortable and there they would store all the gold in the world 02:41:12

all the gold in the world 02:41:14

all the gold in the world and they put it in great subterranean 02:41:14

and they put it in great subterranean 02:41:17

and they put it in great subterranean vaults reached by deep elevator shafts 02:41:17

vaults reached by deep elevator shafts 02:41:19

vaults reached by deep elevator shafts and then all they had to do when one 02:41:19

and then all they had to do when one 02:41:23

and then all they had to do when one bank or one country owned gold to 02:41:23

bank or one country owned gold to 02:41:25

bank or one country owned gold to another was to trundle it across the 02:41:25

another was to trundle it across the 02:41:27

another was to trundle it across the street 02:41:27

street 02:41:28

street and this was very efficient and it went 02:41:28

and this was very efficient and it went 02:41:32

and this was very efficient and it went on beautifully for five or six years 02:41:32

on beautifully for five or six years 02:41:36

on beautifully for five or six years then the presidents of the world banks 02:41:36

then the presidents of the world banks 02:41:38

then the presidents of the world banks got together and said let's have a 02:41:38

got together and said let's have a 02:41:40

got together and said let's have a convention out on this island and take 02:41:40

convention out on this island and take 02:41:42

convention out on this island and take our wives and families so about seven 02:41:42

our wives and families so about seven 02:41:47

our wives and families so about seven years from the date of opening or all 02:41:47

years from the date of opening or all 02:41:49

years from the date of opening or all those presidents and their wives and 02:41:49

those presidents and their wives and 02:41:51

those presidents and their wives and families went out for this Pacific 02:41:51

families went out for this Pacific 02:41:53

families went out for this Pacific island and they inspected the books and 02:41:53

island and they inspected the books and 02:41:56

island and they inspected the books and everything was beautifully in order then 02:41:56

everything was beautifully in order then 02:42:00

everything was beautifully in order then the children said Oh daddy can't we see 02:42:00

the children said Oh daddy can't we see 02:42:03

the children said Oh daddy can't we see the gold they said of course you may see 02:42:03

the gold they said of course you may see 02:42:06

the gold they said of course you may see the gold and they said to the managers 02:42:06

the gold and they said to the managers 02:42:08

the gold and they said to the managers let's take our children down to the 02:42:08

let's take our children down to the 02:42:10

let's take our children down to the vaults and show them to gold and the 02:42:10

vaults and show them to gold and the 02:42:13

vaults and show them to gold and the managers said well it's it's a little 02:42:13

managers said well it's it's a little 02:42:18

managers said well it's it's a little bit inconvenient at this time and 02:42:18

bit inconvenient at this time and 02:42:20

bit inconvenient at this time and perhaps the children would not really be 02:42:20

perhaps the children would not really be 02:42:25

perhaps the children would not really be very interested after all it's just only 02:42:25

very interested after all it's just only 02:42:27

very interested after all it's just only old plain gold another manner and the 02:42:27

old plain gold another manner and the 02:42:30

old plain gold another manner and the president said no no no come now they'd 02:42:30

president said no no no come now they'd 02:42:33

president said no no no come now they'd be thrilled let's let's go down and see 02:42:33

be thrilled let's let's go down and see 02:42:35

be thrilled let's let's go down and see there was further humming and hawing and 02:42:35

there was further humming and hawing and 02:42:37

there was further humming and hawing and delays and finally it came out that a 02:42:37

02:42:43

few years before there had been a 02:42:43

few years before there had been a 02:42:45

few years before there had been a catastrophic subterranean earthquake and 02:42:45

catastrophic subterranean earthquake and 02:42:49

catastrophic subterranean earthquake and all the vaults had been swallowed up and 02:42:49

all the vaults had been swallowed up and 02:42:51

all the vaults had been swallowed up and all the gold have disappeared but so far 02:42:51

all the gold have disappeared but so far 02:42:54

all the gold have disappeared but so far as the bookkeeping was concerned 02:42:54

as the bookkeeping was concerned 02:42:56

as the bookkeeping was concerned everything was in perfect order what 02:42:56

everything was in perfect order what 02:43:05

everything was in perfect order what this means then is that money is nothing 02:43:05

this means then is that money is nothing 02:43:11

this means then is that money is nothing but bookkeeping it is figures it is a 02:43:11

but bookkeeping it is figures it is a 02:43:16

but bookkeeping it is figures it is a way of measuring what you owe the 02:43:16

way of measuring what you owe the 02:43:24

way of measuring what you owe the community and what the community owes 02:43:24

community and what the community owes 02:43:26

community and what the community owes you it is of course as you all know a 02:43:26

you it is of course as you all know a 02:43:30

you it is of course as you all know a substitute for barter if you worked on a 02:43:30

substitute for barter if you worked on a 02:43:34

substitute for barter if you worked on a farm and the farmer paid you in terms of 02:43:34

farm and the farmer paid you in terms of 02:43:37

farm and the farmer paid you in terms of years of corn onions cabbages and other 02:43:37

years of corn onions cabbages and other 02:43:41

years of corn onions cabbages and other vegetables and yet you wanted a pot and 02:43:41

vegetables and yet you wanted a pot and 02:43:44

vegetables and yet you wanted a pot and pan of some kind and you took a few 02:43:44

pan of some kind and you took a few 02:43:46

pan of some kind and you took a few vegetables over to the mouth 02:43:46

vegetables over to the mouth 02:43:47

vegetables over to the mouth whoo so who made pots and pans and you 02:43:47

whoo so who made pots and pans and you 02:43:49

whoo so who made pots and pans and you swapped some people used calorie shells 02:43:49

swapped some people used calorie shells 02:43:57

swapped some people used calorie shells to stand for money so that you wouldn't 02:43:57

to stand for money so that you wouldn't 02:43:59

to stand for money so that you wouldn't have to barter and carry around all 02:43:59

have to barter and carry around all 02:44:02

have to barter and carry around all these inconvenient loads of goods and 02:44:02

these inconvenient loads of goods and 02:44:08

these inconvenient loads of goods and then of course gold was used because 02:44:08

then of course gold was used because 02:44:11

then of course gold was used because gold was rare and because gold was 02:44:11

gold was rare and because gold was 02:44:15

gold was rare and because gold was supposed to have a constant value you 02:44:15

supposed to have a constant value you 02:44:21

supposed to have a constant value you might ponder the question when a banker 02:44:21

might ponder the question when a banker 02:44:25

might ponder the question when a banker buys gold with what does he pay for it 02:44:25

02:44:30

the answer is a mystery called credit 02:44:30

the answer is a mystery called credit 02:44:34

the answer is a mystery called credit credit is bookkeeping and 02:44:34

02:44:43

as the economy of the Western world 02:44:43

as the economy of the Western world 02:44:46

as the economy of the Western world developed it was found that there was 02:44:46

developed it was found that there was 02:44:49

developed it was found that there was not enough gold around if it were to 02:44:49

not enough gold around if it were to 02:44:51

not enough gold around if it were to remain constant in value to exchange 02:44:51

remain constant in value to exchange 02:44:55

remain constant in value to exchange goods and services you could of course 02:44:55

goods and services you could of course 02:44:59

goods and services you could of course have changed the picture by putting down 02:44:59

have changed the picture by putting down 02:45:01

have changed the picture by putting down the price of goods and services to keep 02:45:01

the price of goods and services to keep 02:45:05

the price of goods and services to keep pace with the amount of gold in 02:45:05

pace with the amount of gold in 02:45:07

pace with the amount of gold in circulation but nobody will ever put 02:45:07

circulation but nobody will ever put 02:45:10

circulation but nobody will ever put down the price there's something in our 02:45:10

down the price there's something in our 02:45:13

down the price there's something in our psychology whereby prices always tend to 02:45:13

psychology whereby prices always tend to 02:45:16

psychology whereby prices always tend to go up but at the same time therefore 02:45:16

go up but at the same time therefore 02:45:20

go up but at the same time therefore because the the amount of gold in the 02:45:20

because the the amount of gold in the 02:45:23

because the the amount of gold in the world did not provide an adequate 02:45:23

world did not provide an adequate 02:45:25

world did not provide an adequate channel for the circulation of goods and 02:45:25

channel for the circulation of goods and 02:45:28

channel for the circulation of goods and services all great industrial nations 02:45:28

services all great industrial nations 02:45:31

services all great industrial nations went heavily into debt 02:45:31

went heavily into debt 02:45:34

went heavily into debt they created a thing called the national 02:45:34

they created a thing called the national 02:45:36

they created a thing called the national debt which year by year gets bigger and 02:45:36

debt which year by year gets bigger and 02:45:39

debt which year by year gets bigger and bigger and bigger to the horror and 02:45:39

bigger and bigger to the horror and 02:45:41

bigger and bigger to the horror and consternation of old fashioned 02:45:41

consternation of old fashioned 02:45:42

consternation of old fashioned Republicans who pay their bills but the 02:45:42

Republicans who pay their bills but the 02:45:47

Republicans who pay their bills but the reason for the increase of the national 02:45:47

reason for the increase of the national 02:45:49

reason for the increase of the national debt is extremely obvious it is that in 02:45:49

debt is extremely obvious it is that in 02:45:52

debt is extremely obvious it is that in an X with an expanding gross national 02:45:52

an X with an expanding gross national 02:45:54

an X with an expanding gross national product there needs to be more and more 02:45:54

product there needs to be more and more 02:45:57

product there needs to be more and more money 02:45:57

money 02:45:58

money that is to say tokens of exchange in 02:45:59

that is to say tokens of exchange in 02:46:02

that is to say tokens of exchange in order to circulate the amount of goods 02:46:02

order to circulate the amount of goods 02:46:04

order to circulate the amount of goods produced which is ever-increasing now 02:46:04

produced which is ever-increasing now 02:46:12

produced which is ever-increasing now I'm not an economist and I can refer you 02:46:12

I'm not an economist and I can refer you 02:46:17

I'm not an economist and I can refer you to the work of those who really are but 02:46:17

to the work of those who really are but 02:46:20

to the work of those who really are but any fool can see certainly extremely 02:46:20

any fool can see certainly extremely 02:46:22

any fool can see certainly extremely fundamental principles about this whole 02:46:22

fundamental principles about this whole 02:46:24

fundamental principles about this whole situation and I'm speaking of the 02:46:24

situation and I'm speaking of the 02:46:28

situation and I'm speaking of the thought today of a man called Robert 02:46:28

thought today of a man called Robert 02:46:30

thought today of a man called Robert Theobald who sort of ties in with the 02:46:30

Theobald who sort of ties in with the 02:46:33

Theobald who sort of ties in with the general picture of people like McLuhan 02:46:33

general picture of people like McLuhan 02:46:35

general picture of people like McLuhan and Buckminster Fuller in having very 02:46:35

and Buckminster Fuller in having very 02:46:39

and Buckminster Fuller in having very far-out thoughts and very adventurous 02:46:39

far-out thoughts and very adventurous 02:46:42

far-out thoughts and very adventurous thoughts about what we should do about 02:46:42

thoughts about what we should do about 02:46:44

thoughts about what we should do about money but he is in the following of a 02:46:44

money but he is in the following of a 02:46:48

money but he is in the following of a man like Frederick Soddy who was a Nobel 02:46:48

man like Frederick Soddy who was a Nobel 02:46:52

man like Frederick Soddy who was a Nobel Prize chemist 02:46:52

Prize chemist 02:46:54

Prize chemist who was one of the first people to think 02:46:54

who was one of the first people to think 02:46:59

who was one of the first people to think really freshly about economics or people 02:46:59

really freshly about economics or people 02:47:02

really freshly about economics or people like Silvio Gesell in Austria and major 02:47:02

like Silvio Gesell in Austria and major 02:47:05

like Silvio Gesell in Austria and major Douglas in England he's in that 02:47:05

Douglas in England he's in that 02:47:08

Douglas in England he's in that following and the proposition that he 02:47:08

following and the proposition that he 02:47:15

following and the proposition that he puts forward is very simple that money 02:47:15

puts forward is very simple that money 02:47:20

puts forward is very simple that money is a circulation of information and in 02:47:20

is a circulation of information and in 02:47:24

is a circulation of information and in itself has no value gold of course has 02:47:24

itself has no value gold of course has 02:47:29

itself has no value gold of course has some value it has some value for an 02:47:29

some value it has some value for an 02:47:32

some value it has some value for an industry and some value for dentistry 02:47:32

industry and some value for dentistry 02:47:35

industry and some value for dentistry and some value for jewelry but as a 02:47:35

and some value for jewelry but as a 02:47:39

and some value for jewelry but as a means of exchanging the goods and 02:47:39

means of exchanging the goods and 02:47:42

means of exchanging the goods and services of the world it is as primitive 02:47:42

services of the world it is as primitive 02:47:45

services of the world it is as primitive as post-horses for carrying the mail 02:47:45

02:48:00

we must recognize them that money is a 02:48:00

we must recognize them that money is a 02:48:06

we must recognize them that money is a pure abstraction I was on a television 02:48:06

pure abstraction I was on a television 02:48:10

pure abstraction I was on a television show a little while ago with Ted 02:48:10

show a little while ago with Ted 02:48:16

show a little while ago with Ted Sorensen and Raymond moly 02:48:16

Sorensen and Raymond moly 02:48:18

Sorensen and Raymond moly and they were having a long long 02:48:18

and they were having a long long 02:48:21

and they were having a long long discussion which sounded like something 02:48:21

discussion which sounded like something 02:48:22

discussion which sounded like something that goes on in a smoke-filled back room 02:48:22

that goes on in a smoke-filled back room 02:48:25

that goes on in a smoke-filled back room of party bosses well they were talking 02:48:25

of party bosses well they were talking 02:48:30

of party bosses well they were talking about the prospects for the Republican 02:48:30

about the prospects for the Republican 02:48:31

about the prospects for the Republican Democratic parties in 1968 and then they 02:48:31

Democratic parties in 1968 and then they 02:48:36

Democratic parties in 1968 and then they got on to the question of automation and 02:48:36

got on to the question of automation and 02:48:38

got on to the question of automation and the problems of unemployment that it was 02:48:38

the problems of unemployment that it was 02:48:40

the problems of unemployment that it was making and the difficulties of 02:48:40

making and the difficulties of 02:48:42

making and the difficulties of transferring workers from this to that 02:48:42

transferring workers from this to that 02:48:44

transferring workers from this to that when they were only trained for this 02:48:44

when they were only trained for this 02:48:46

when they were only trained for this finally I said the trouble with you 02:48:46

finally I said the trouble with you 02:48:48

finally I said the trouble with you gentlemen is you still think money is 02:48:48

gentlemen is you still think money is 02:48:50

gentlemen is you still think money is real and they looked at me and said aha 02:48:50

real and they looked at me and said aha 02:48:55

real and they looked at me and said aha someone who doesn't think money is real 02:48:55

someone who doesn't think money is real 02:48:57

someone who doesn't think money is real because every now anybody knows money is 02:48:57

because every now anybody knows money is 02:48:59

because every now anybody knows money is money and it very important about it 02:48:59

money and it very important about it 02:49:04

money and it very important about it just isn't real at all because it has 02:49:04

just isn't real at all because it has 02:49:06

just isn't real at all because it has the same relationship to real wealth 02:49:06

the same relationship to real wealth 02:49:08

the same relationship to real wealth that is to say to actual goods and 02:49:08

that is to say to actual goods and 02:49:10

that is to say to actual goods and services that words have - meaning that 02:49:10

services that words have - meaning that 02:49:13

services that words have - meaning that words have to the physical world and as 02:49:13

words have to the physical world and as 02:49:17

words have to the physical world and as words are not the physical world money 02:49:17

words are not the physical world money 02:49:19

words are not the physical world money is not wealth it only is an accounting 02:49:19

is not wealth it only is an accounting 02:49:23

is not wealth it only is an accounting of available energy economic energy now 02:49:23

of available energy economic energy now 02:49:31

of available energy economic energy now what happens then when you introduce 02:49:31

what happens then when you introduce 02:49:34

what happens then when you introduce technology into production you produce 02:49:34

technology into production you produce 02:49:39

technology into production you produce enormous quantities of goods by 02:49:39

enormous quantities of goods by 02:49:42

enormous quantities of goods by technological methods but at the same 02:49:42

technological methods but at the same 02:49:44

technological methods but at the same time you put people out of work you can 02:49:44

time you put people out of work you can 02:49:49

time you put people out of work you can say oh but it always creates more jobs 02:49:49

say oh but it always creates more jobs 02:49:52

say oh but it always creates more jobs there will always be more jobs yes but 02:49:52

there will always be more jobs yes but 02:49:54

there will always be more jobs yes but they will be lots of them will be futile 02:49:54

they will be lots of them will be futile 02:49:56

they will be lots of them will be futile jobs there will be jobs making every 02:49:56

jobs there will be jobs making every 02:50:00

jobs there will be jobs making every kind of frippery 02:50:00

kind of frippery 02:50:01

kind of frippery and unnecessary contraption and one will 02:50:01

and unnecessary contraption and one will 02:50:06

and unnecessary contraption and one will also at the same time have to beguile 02:50:06

also at the same time have to beguile 02:50:08

also at the same time have to beguile the public into feeling that they need 02:50:08

the public into feeling that they need 02:50:09

the public into feeling that they need and want these of completely unnecessary 02:50:09

and want these of completely unnecessary 02:50:11

and want these of completely unnecessary things that aren't even 02:50:11

things that aren't even 02:50:13

things that aren't even beautiful and therefore an enormous 02:50:13

beautiful and therefore an enormous 02:50:16

beautiful and therefore an enormous amount of nonsense employment and busy 02:50:16

amount of nonsense employment and busy 02:50:18

amount of nonsense employment and busy work bureaucratic and otherwise it has 02:50:18

work bureaucratic and otherwise it has 02:50:21

work bureaucratic and otherwise it has to be created in order to keep people 02:50:21

to be created in order to keep people 02:50:23

to be created in order to keep people working because we believe as good 02:50:23

working because we believe as good 02:50:26

working because we believe as good Protestants that the devil finds work 02:50:26

Protestants that the devil finds work 02:50:28

Protestants that the devil finds work for idle hands to do but the basic 02:50:28

for idle hands to do but the basic 02:50:32

for idle hands to do but the basic principle of the whole thing has been 02:50:32

principle of the whole thing has been 02:50:33

principle of the whole thing has been completely overlooked that the purpose 02:50:33

completely overlooked that the purpose 02:50:37

completely overlooked that the purpose of the machine is to make drudgery 02:50:37

of the machine is to make drudgery 02:50:40

of the machine is to make drudgery unnecessary and if we don't allow it to 02:50:40

unnecessary and if we don't allow it to 02:50:46

unnecessary and if we don't allow it to achieve its purpose we live in a 02:50:46

achieve its purpose we live in a 02:50:48

achieve its purpose we live in a constant state of self frustration so 02:50:48

constant state of self frustration so 02:50:52

constant state of self frustration so then if a given manufacturer automates 02:50:52

then if a given manufacturer automates 02:50:56

then if a given manufacturer automates his plant and dismisses his labor force 02:50:56

his plant and dismisses his labor force 02:50:59

his plant and dismisses his labor force and they have to operate on a very much 02:50:59

and they have to operate on a very much 02:51:06

and they have to operate on a very much diminished income say some sort of dole 02:51:06

diminished income say some sort of dole 02:51:10

diminished income say some sort of dole the manufacturer suddenly finds that the 02:51:10

the manufacturer suddenly finds that the 02:51:14

the manufacturer suddenly finds that the public does not have the wherewithal to 02:51:14

public does not have the wherewithal to 02:51:16

public does not have the wherewithal to buy his products and therefore he has 02:51:16

buy his products and therefore he has 02:51:21

buy his products and therefore he has invested in this expensive ottoman 02:51:21

invested in this expensive ottoman 02:51:24

invested in this expensive ottoman automated machinery to no purpose and 02:51:24

automated machinery to no purpose and 02:51:29

automated machinery to no purpose and therefore obviously the public has to be 02:51:29

therefore obviously the public has to be 02:51:33

therefore obviously the public has to be provided with the means of purchasing 02:51:33

provided with the means of purchasing 02:51:36

provided with the means of purchasing what the machines produce that people 02:51:36

what the machines produce that people 02:51:40

what the machines produce that people say that's not fair where's the money 02:51:40

say that's not fair where's the money 02:51:43

say that's not fair where's the money gonna come from who's gonna pay for it 02:51:43

gonna come from who's gonna pay for it 02:51:45

gonna come from who's gonna pay for it the answer is the machine the Machine 02:51:45

the answer is the machine the Machine 02:51:49

the answer is the machine the Machine pays for it because the machine works 02:51:49

pays for it because the machine works 02:51:53

pays for it because the machine works for the manufacturer and for the 02:51:53

for the manufacturer and for the 02:51:56

for the manufacturer and for the community this is not saying you see 02:51:56

community this is not saying you see 02:51:59

community this is not saying you see that this is not the statist communist 02:51:59

that this is not the statist communist 02:52:04

that this is not the statist communist idea that you expropriate the 02:52:04

idea that you expropriate the 02:52:07

idea that you expropriate the manufacturer and say you can't own and 02:52:07

manufacturer and say you can't own and 02:52:09

manufacturer and say you can't own and run this factory anymore it is owned by 02:52:09

run this factory anymore it is owned by 02:52:11

run this factory anymore it is owned by the government 02:52:11

the government 02:52:12

the government it is only saying that the government or 02:52:12

it is only saying that the government or 02:52:16

it is only saying that the government or the people have to be responsible for 02:52:16

the people have to be responsible for 02:52:19

the people have to be responsible for issuing to themselves sufficient credit 02:52:19

issuing to themselves sufficient credit 02:52:23

issuing to themselves sufficient credit to circulate the goods they are 02:52:23

to circulate the goods they are 02:52:25

to circulate the goods they are producing 02:52:25

producing 02:52:26

producing and have to balance the measuring 02:52:26

and have to balance the measuring 02:52:30

and have to balance the measuring standard of money with the gross 02:52:30

standard of money with the gross 02:52:33

standard of money with the gross national product that means the taxation 02:52:33

national product that means the taxation 02:52:38

national product that means the taxation is obsolete completely obsolete it ought 02:52:38

is obsolete completely obsolete it ought 02:52:42

is obsolete completely obsolete it ought to go the other way 02:52:42

to go the other way 02:52:43

to go the other way Theobald points out that every 02:52:43

Theobald points out that every 02:52:45

Theobald points out that every individual should be assured of a 02:52:45

individual should be assured of a 02:52:48

individual should be assured of a minimum income now you see that 02:52:48

minimum income now you see that 02:52:51

minimum income now you see that absolutely horrifies most people say all 02:52:51

absolutely horrifies most people say all 02:52:55

absolutely horrifies most people say all these wastrels these people who are out 02:52:55

these wastrels these people who are out 02:52:58

these wastrels these people who are out of a job because they're really lazy see 02:52:58

of a job because they're really lazy see 02:53:02

of a job because they're really lazy see given the money 02:53:02

given the money 02:53:04

given the money yeah because otherwise the machines 02:53:04

yeah because otherwise the machines 02:53:09

yeah because otherwise the machines can't work they come through blockage 02:53:09

can't work they come through blockage 02:53:14

can't work they come through blockage this was the situation of the Great 02:53:14

this was the situation of the Great 02:53:16

this was the situation of the Great Depression when here we were still in a 02:53:16

Depression when here we were still in a 02:53:20

Depression when here we were still in a material sense a very rich country with 02:53:20

material sense a very rich country with 02:53:23

material sense a very rich country with plenty of fields and farms and mines and 02:53:23

plenty of fields and farms and mines and 02:53:27

plenty of fields and farms and mines and factories everything going 02:53:27

factories everything going 02:53:29

factories everything going but suddenly because of a psychological 02:53:29

but suddenly because of a psychological 02:53:32

but suddenly because of a psychological hang-up because of a mysterious 02:53:32

hang-up because of a mysterious 02:53:35

hang-up because of a mysterious mumbo-jumbo about the economy about the 02:53:35

mumbo-jumbo about the economy about the 02:53:40

mumbo-jumbo about the economy about the banking we were all miserable and poor 02:53:40

banking we were all miserable and poor 02:53:45

banking we were all miserable and poor starving in the midst of Plenty just 02:53:45

starving in the midst of Plenty just 02:53:49

starving in the midst of Plenty just because of a psychological hang-up and 02:53:49

because of a psychological hang-up and 02:53:50

because of a psychological hang-up and that hang-up is that money is real and 02:53:50

that hang-up is that money is real and 02:53:53

that hang-up is that money is real and that people ought to suffer in order to 02:53:53

that people ought to suffer in order to 02:53:58

that people ought to suffer in order to get it but the whole point of the 02:53:58

get it but the whole point of the 02:54:01

get it but the whole point of the machine is to relieve you of that 02:54:01

machine is to relieve you of that 02:54:03

machine is to relieve you of that suffering which is an ingenuity you see 02:54:03

suffering which is an ingenuity you see 02:54:06

suffering which is an ingenuity you see we are psychologically back in the 17th 02:54:06

we are psychologically back in the 17th 02:54:10

we are psychologically back in the 17th century and technically in the 20th and 02:54:10

century and technically in the 20th and 02:54:14

century and technically in the 20th and here comes the problem 02:54:14

02:54:18

so what we have to find out how to do is 02:54:18

so what we have to find out how to do is 02:54:28

so what we have to find out how to do is to change the psychological attitude to 02:54:28

to change the psychological attitude to 02:54:31

to change the psychological attitude to money into wealth and furthermore to 02:54:31

money into wealth and furthermore to 02:54:34

money into wealth and furthermore to pleasure and furthermore to the nature 02:54:34

pleasure and furthermore to the nature 02:54:37

pleasure and furthermore to the nature of work and this is a formidable problem 02:54:37

of work and this is a formidable problem 02:54:42

of work and this is a formidable problem it requires the best brains in public 02:54:42

it requires the best brains in public 02:54:46

it requires the best brains in public relations in propaganda and all that 02:54:46

relations in propaganda and all that 02:54:49

relations in propaganda and all that kind of thing in all the media 02:54:49

kind of thing in all the media 02:54:51

kind of thing in all the media television radio newspapers everything 02:54:51

television radio newspapers everything 02:54:55

television radio newspapers everything to try to get across a message to the 02:54:55

to try to get across a message to the 02:55:00

to try to get across a message to the vast general public about what money is 02:55:00

vast general public about what money is 02:55:04

vast general public about what money is you see the difficulty is this when the 02:55:04

you see the difficulty is this when the 02:55:07

you see the difficulty is this when the public suspects that the money that is 02:55:07

public suspects that the money that is 02:55:10

public suspects that the money that is being issued the dollar bills being 02:55:10

being issued the dollar bills being 02:55:12

being issued the dollar bills being issued by the government are only paper 02:55:12

issued by the government are only paper 02:55:14

issued by the government are only paper and stand only for paper they start 02:55:14

and stand only for paper they start 02:55:17

and stand only for paper they start putting up prizes so you get an 02:55:17

putting up prizes so you get an 02:55:20

putting up prizes so you get an inflationary situation where the more 02:55:20

inflationary situation where the more 02:55:22

inflationary situation where the more paper money there is the higher and 02:55:22

paper money there is the higher and 02:55:25

paper money there is the higher and higher and higher the prices go which is 02:55:25

higher and higher the prices go which is 02:55:29

higher and higher the prices go which is a very stupid psychological maneuver and 02:55:29

a very stupid psychological maneuver and 02:55:36

a very stupid psychological maneuver and people have to be persuaded the least 02:55:36

people have to be persuaded the least 02:55:41

people have to be persuaded the least effective way of persuading people is 02:55:41

effective way of persuading people is 02:55:43

effective way of persuading people is passing laws but they have to be 02:55:43

passing laws but they have to be 02:55:45

passing laws but they have to be persuaded somehow not to put up the 02:55:45

persuaded somehow not to put up the 02:55:48

persuaded somehow not to put up the prices but to play fair with each other 02:55:48

prices but to play fair with each other 02:55:50

prices but to play fair with each other and keep some sort of standard 02:55:50

and keep some sort of standard 02:55:57

and keep some sort of standard correspondence between how much is 02:55:57

correspondence between how much is 02:56:01

correspondence between how much is produced and how much credit is issued 02:56:01

02:56:09

so this goes very deep into us it goes 02:56:09

so this goes very deep into us it goes 02:56:13

so this goes very deep into us it goes deep deep deep into a problem we have 02:56:13

deep deep deep into a problem we have 02:56:17

deep deep deep into a problem we have about guilt 02:56:17

about guilt 02:56:18

about guilt I wonder often if there's any 02:56:18

I wonder often if there's any 02:56:22

I wonder often if there's any relationship between guilt and gold that 02:56:22

relationship between guilt and gold that 02:56:26

relationship between guilt and gold that the love of money is the root of evil 02:56:26

the love of money is the root of evil 02:56:29

the love of money is the root of evil very true saying because you see I was 02:56:29

very true saying because you see I was 02:56:35

very true saying because you see I was saying yesterday that the difference 02:56:35

saying yesterday that the difference 02:56:37

saying yesterday that the difference between having a job and having a 02:56:37

between having a job and having a 02:56:40

between having a job and having a vocation is that a job is some 02:56:40

vocation is that a job is some 02:56:44

vocation is that a job is some unpleasant work you do in order to make 02:56:44

unpleasant work you do in order to make 02:56:47

unpleasant work you do in order to make money with the sole purpose of making 02:56:47

money with the sole purpose of making 02:56:50

money with the sole purpose of making money and there are plenty of jobs 02:56:50

money and there are plenty of jobs 02:56:55

money and there are plenty of jobs because there is still a certain amount 02:56:55

because there is still a certain amount 02:56:57

because there is still a certain amount of dirty work that nobody wants to do 02:56:57

of dirty work that nobody wants to do 02:56:59

of dirty work that nobody wants to do and that therefore they will pay someone 02:56:59

and that therefore they will pay someone 02:57:01

and that therefore they will pay someone to do it there is essentially less and 02:57:01

to do it there is essentially less and 02:57:06

to do it there is essentially less and less of that kind of work because of 02:57:06

less of that kind of work because of 02:57:08

less of that kind of work because of mechanization but if you do a job if you 02:57:08

mechanization but if you do a job if you 02:57:12

mechanization but if you do a job if you do a job with the sole purpose of making 02:57:12

do a job with the sole purpose of making 02:57:15

do a job with the sole purpose of making money you are absurd because if money 02:57:15

money you are absurd because if money 02:57:24

money you are absurd because if money becomes the goal and it does when you 02:57:24

becomes the goal and it does when you 02:57:26

becomes the goal and it does when you work that way you begin increasingly to 02:57:26

work that way you begin increasingly to 02:57:31

work that way you begin increasingly to confuse it with happiness or with 02:57:31

confuse it with happiness or with 02:57:35

confuse it with happiness or with pleasure yes one can take a whole 02:57:35

pleasure yes one can take a whole 02:57:39

pleasure yes one can take a whole handful of crisp dollar bills and 02:57:39

handful of crisp dollar bills and 02:57:41

handful of crisp dollar bills and practically water your mouth over them 02:57:41

practically water your mouth over them 02:57:43

practically water your mouth over them but this is this kind of a person who is 02:57:43

but this is this kind of a person who is 02:57:46

but this is this kind of a person who is confused like a Pavlov dog who salivates 02:57:46

confused like a Pavlov dog who salivates 02:57:49

confused like a Pavlov dog who salivates on the wrong Bell it goes back you see 02:57:49

on the wrong Bell it goes back you see 02:58:03

on the wrong Bell it goes back you see to the ancient guilt that 02:58:03

to the ancient guilt that 02:58:11

to the ancient guilt that if you don't work you have no right to 02:58:11

if you don't work you have no right to 02:58:14

if you don't work you have no right to eat there if there are others in the 02:58:14

eat there if there are others in the 02:58:21

eat there if there are others in the world who don't have enough to eat you 02:58:21

world who don't have enough to eat you 02:58:24

world who don't have enough to eat you shouldn't enjoy your dinner even though 02:58:24

shouldn't enjoy your dinner even though 02:58:26

shouldn't enjoy your dinner even though you have no possible means of conveying 02:58:26

you have no possible means of conveying 02:58:28

you have no possible means of conveying the food to them and while it is true 02:58:28

the food to them and while it is true 02:58:36

the food to them and while it is true that we are all one human family and 02:58:36

that we are all one human family and 02:58:41

that we are all one human family and that every individual involves every 02:58:41

that every individual involves every 02:58:43

that every individual involves every other individual while it is true 02:58:43

other individual while it is true 02:58:48

other individual while it is true therefore we should do something about 02:58:48

therefore we should do something about 02:58:52

therefore we should do something about changing the situation the one way of 02:58:52

changing the situation the one way of 02:58:56

changing the situation the one way of not doing anything about a situation is 02:58:56

not doing anything about a situation is 02:58:58

not doing anything about a situation is feeling guilty about it because when 02:58:58

feeling guilty about it because when 02:59:02

feeling guilty about it because when people feel guilty about a situation 02:59:02

people feel guilty about a situation 02:59:04

people feel guilty about a situation they most usually instead of doing 02:59:04

they most usually instead of doing 02:59:07

they most usually instead of doing something practical to change it they 02:59:07

something practical to change it they 02:59:10

something practical to change it they resort to all sorts of symbolic methods 02:59:10

resort to all sorts of symbolic methods 02:59:13

resort to all sorts of symbolic methods of expiation they go to confession they 02:59:13

of expiation they go to confession they 02:59:18

of expiation they go to confession they see an analyst they do all kinds of 02:59:18

see an analyst they do all kinds of 02:59:22

see an analyst they do all kinds of things which will be ways of actually 02:59:22

things which will be ways of actually 02:59:25

things which will be ways of actually not doing anything about the problem but 02:59:25

not doing anything about the problem but 02:59:29

not doing anything about the problem but feeling alright about it instead and 02:59:29

feeling alright about it instead and 02:59:32

feeling alright about it instead and guilt invariably produces that sort of 02:59:32

guilt invariably produces that sort of 02:59:35

guilt invariably produces that sort of reaction it is a destructive emotion and 02:59:35

02:59:42

instead we need to have a different 02:59:42

instead we need to have a different 02:59:46

instead we need to have a different attitude to our mistakes and to our 02:59:46

attitude to our mistakes and to our 02:59:50

attitude to our mistakes and to our misdeeds Walt Whitman always admired 02:59:50

misdeeds Walt Whitman always admired 02:59:55

misdeeds Walt Whitman always admired animals because they do not lie awake at 02:59:55

animals because they do not lie awake at 02:59:57

animals because they do not lie awake at night and weep for their sins 02:59:57

03:00:01

animals are practical in the real sense 03:00:01

animals are practical in the real sense 03:00:05

animals are practical in the real sense as our children who haven't been taught 03:00:05

as our children who haven't been taught 03:00:09

as our children who haven't been taught this extraordinary hang-up of guilt 03:00:09

this extraordinary hang-up of guilt 03:00:16

this extraordinary hang-up of guilt because if you've done something wrong 03:00:16

because if you've done something wrong 03:00:19

because if you've done something wrong or you have made a mistake and somebody 03:00:19

or you have made a mistake and somebody 03:00:23

or you have made a mistake and somebody makes you ashamed of it I'm guilty you 03:00:23

makes you ashamed of it I'm guilty you 03:00:28

makes you ashamed of it I'm guilty you run around licking the sores of your 03:00:28

run around licking the sores of your 03:00:31

run around licking the sores of your wounded ego because you feel your pride 03:00:31

wounded ego because you feel your pride 03:00:36

wounded ego because you feel your pride has been hurt the first thing to 03:00:36

has been hurt the first thing to 03:00:40

has been hurt the first thing to understand is that it is not a serious 03:00:40

understand is that it is not a serious 03:00:46

understand is that it is not a serious failing in a human being to make 03:00:46

failing in a human being to make 03:00:48

failing in a human being to make mistakes everybody has to make mistakes 03:00:48

mistakes everybody has to make mistakes 03:00:53

mistakes everybody has to make mistakes there is no way out of it you can't 03:00:53

there is no way out of it you can't 03:00:56

there is no way out of it you can't learn anything unless you make mistakes 03:00:56

learn anything unless you make mistakes 03:00:57

learn anything unless you make mistakes we find for example in Japan the 03:00:58

we find for example in Japan the 03:01:01

we find for example in Japan the Japanese have a terrible hang-up about 03:01:01

Japanese have a terrible hang-up about 03:01:03

Japanese have a terrible hang-up about making mistakes they therefore never 03:01:03

making mistakes they therefore never 03:01:08

making mistakes they therefore never have the courage to practice their 03:01:08

have the courage to practice their 03:01:10

have the courage to practice their English properly they've had seven years 03:01:10

English properly they've had seven years 03:01:14

English properly they've had seven years of English in school most of it very 03:01:14

of English in school most of it very 03:01:17

of English in school most of it very very badly taught and it's irrelevant 03:01:17

very badly taught and it's irrelevant 03:01:20

very badly taught and it's irrelevant English they learn all about Shakespeare 03:01:20

English they learn all about Shakespeare 03:01:24

English they learn all about Shakespeare and Dickens and Thackeray and Thomas 03:01:24

and Dickens and Thackeray and Thomas 03:01:30

and Dickens and Thackeray and Thomas Hardy and so on and therefore they can't 03:01:30

Hardy and so on and therefore they can't 03:01:33

Hardy and so on and therefore they can't carry on in everyday conversation it's 03:01:33

carry on in everyday conversation it's 03:01:37

carry on in everyday conversation it's like the way the English study French 03:01:37

like the way the English study French 03:01:39

like the way the English study French all about pens of gardeners ants and 03:01:39

all about pens of gardeners ants and 03:01:42

all about pens of gardeners ants and things like that and so but they are 03:01:42

things like that and so but they are 03:01:47

things like that and so but they are ashamed to try out their English unless 03:01:47

ashamed to try out their English unless 03:01:49

ashamed to try out their English unless drunk so if you want to get into 03:01:49

drunk so if you want to get into 03:01:53

drunk so if you want to get into conversation with the Japanese in 03:01:53

conversation with the Japanese in 03:01:55

conversation with the Japanese in English you have to go to bars and then 03:01:55

English you have to go to bars and then 03:01:59

English you have to go to bars and then they say University students and so long 03:01:59

they say University students and so long 03:02:01

they say University students and so long there will loosen up and talk because 03:02:01

there will loosen up and talk because 03:02:07

there will loosen up and talk because they're no longer have the inhibition 03:02:07

they're no longer have the inhibition 03:02:08

they're no longer have the inhibition the shame of saying the wrong thing so 03:02:08

the shame of saying the wrong thing so 03:02:13

the shame of saying the wrong thing so likewise I know a very great 03:02:13

likewise I know a very great 03:02:16

likewise I know a very great anthropologist who was taught music 03:02:16

anthropologist who was taught music 03:02:20

anthropologist who was taught music playing the piano in the same way I was 03:02:20

playing the piano in the same way I was 03:02:23

playing the piano in the same way I was when I was taught music the 03:02:23

when I was taught music the 03:02:28

when I was taught music the schoolmarm who taught me used to put an 03:02:28

schoolmarm who taught me used to put an 03:02:31

schoolmarm who taught me used to put an india-rubber and erase though it's 03:02:31

india-rubber and erase though it's 03:02:34

india-rubber and erase though it's called in this country on the top of 03:02:34

called in this country on the top of 03:02:36

called in this country on the top of each hand so that I would have my hands 03:02:36

each hand so that I would have my hands 03:02:38

each hand so that I would have my hands in good posture and every time I play a 03:02:38

in good posture and every time I play a 03:02:42

in good posture and every time I play a wrong note she'd hit my fingers with a 03:02:42

wrong note she'd hit my fingers with a 03:02:43

wrong note she'd hit my fingers with a pencil and this great anthropologist 03:02:43

pencil and this great anthropologist 03:02:48

pencil and this great anthropologist that had a similar sort of musical 03:02:48

that had a similar sort of musical 03:02:50

that had a similar sort of musical education and when confronted with the 03:02:50

education and when confronted with the 03:02:53

education and when confronted with the piano in the presence of an absolutely 03:02:53

piano in the presence of an absolutely 03:02:55

piano in the presence of an absolutely marvelous teacher in San Francisco she 03:02:55

marvelous teacher in San Francisco she 03:02:57

marvelous teacher in San Francisco she said she was amazed he was completely 03:02:57

said she was amazed he was completely 03:03:00

said she was amazed he was completely incapable of reading notes he blocked at 03:03:00

incapable of reading notes he blocked at 03:03:03

incapable of reading notes he blocked at everything so another great teacher of 03:03:03

everything so another great teacher of 03:03:11

everything so another great teacher of the piano I knew said simply you must 03:03:11

the piano I knew said simply you must 03:03:15

the piano I knew said simply you must not be afraid of playing wrong notes 03:03:15

03:03:19

just forget it 03:03:19

just forget it 03:03:23

just forget it play it wrong and then eventually go 03:03:23

play it wrong and then eventually go 03:03:27

play it wrong and then eventually go over it again and you'll eventually get 03:03:27

over it again and you'll eventually get 03:03:29

over it again and you'll eventually get it right but you must not block always 03:03:29

it right but you must not block always 03:03:32

it right but you must not block always keep the same rhythm going even if you 03:03:32

keep the same rhythm going even if you 03:03:36

keep the same rhythm going even if you have to slow it down but keep the 03:03:36

have to slow it down but keep the 03:03:39

have to slow it down but keep the proportionate rhythm of one note to 03:03:39

proportionate rhythm of one note to 03:03:42

proportionate rhythm of one note to another and if it's the wrong now play 03:03:42

another and if it's the wrong now play 03:03:44

another and if it's the wrong now play the wrong note as long as you play 03:03:44

the wrong note as long as you play 03:03:45

the wrong note as long as you play something in the right rhythm so you 03:03:45

something in the right rhythm so you 03:03:51

something in the right rhythm so you know this is a way of taking away 03:03:51

know this is a way of taking away 03:03:53

know this is a way of taking away people's blockage people's guilt and 03:03:53

people's blockage people's guilt and 03:03:57

people's blockage people's guilt and shame about making mistakes so you 03:03:57

shame about making mistakes so you 03:04:03

shame about making mistakes so you absolutely freedom means basically the 03:04:03

absolutely freedom means basically the 03:04:07

absolutely freedom means basically the freedom to make mistakes the freedom to 03:04:07

freedom to make mistakes the freedom to 03:04:11

freedom to make mistakes the freedom to be a damn fool and then not to 03:04:11

be a damn fool and then not to 03:04:15

be a damn fool and then not to recriminate with yourself when you do 03:04:15

recriminate with yourself when you do 03:04:17

recriminate with yourself when you do finally realize that it was a mistake 03:04:17

finally realize that it was a mistake 03:04:19

finally realize that it was a mistake but simply don't do it again or at least 03:04:19

but simply don't do it again or at least 03:04:26

but simply don't do it again or at least do it less off so you know this is the 03:04:26

do it less off so you know this is the 03:04:31

do it less off so you know this is the puzzle 03:04:31

03:04:34

when you go to confession in the 03:04:34

when you go to confession in the 03:04:37

when you go to confession in the Catholic Church which is an enormous 03:04:37

Catholic Church which is an enormous 03:04:39

Catholic Church which is an enormous method of inculcating a sense of guilt 03:04:39

method of inculcating a sense of guilt 03:04:41

method of inculcating a sense of guilt very subtle one says of course that 03:04:41

very subtle one says of course that 03:04:46

very subtle one says of course that Catholics are on the whole less guilty 03:04:46

Catholics are on the whole less guilty 03:04:48

Catholics are on the whole less guilty than Protestants more relaxed and 03:04:48

than Protestants more relaxed and 03:04:52

than Protestants more relaxed and there's some truth in that but only some 03:04:52

there's some truth in that but only some 03:04:56

there's some truth in that but only some Protestants of course have chronic guilt 03:04:56

Protestants of course have chronic guilt 03:05:00

Protestants of course have chronic guilt and you can work this out by a very 03:05:00

and you can work this out by a very 03:05:03

and you can work this out by a very simple little formula that when the 03:05:03

simple little formula that when the 03:05:07

simple little formula that when the Protestants in England abandoned what is 03:05:07

Protestants in England abandoned what is 03:05:10

Protestants in England abandoned what is called auricular confession to a priest 03:05:10

called auricular confession to a priest 03:05:14

called auricular confession to a priest they inserted in their prayer book a 03:05:14

they inserted in their prayer book a 03:05:18

they inserted in their prayer book a general confession in which the 03:05:18

general confession in which the 03:05:21

general confession in which the congregation all made its confession 03:05:21

congregation all made its confession 03:05:23

congregation all made its confession together now what does a Catholic say 03:05:23

together now what does a Catholic say 03:05:28

together now what does a Catholic say when he makes his confession the formula 03:05:28

when he makes his confession the formula 03:05:31

when he makes his confession the formula is I confess to God Almighty the Blessed 03:05:31

is I confess to God Almighty the Blessed 03:05:34

is I confess to God Almighty the Blessed Mary ever-virgin Blessed John the 03:05:34

Mary ever-virgin Blessed John the 03:05:35

Mary ever-virgin Blessed John the Baptist the Holy Apostles Peter and Paul 03:05:35

Baptist the Holy Apostles Peter and Paul 03:05:37

Baptist the Holy Apostles Peter and Paul and all the saints that I've sinned 03:05:37

and all the saints that I've sinned 03:05:39

and all the saints that I've sinned exceedingly in thought word and deed by 03:05:39

exceedingly in thought word and deed by 03:05:41

exceedingly in thought word and deed by my fault by my own fault by my own most 03:05:41

my fault by my own fault by my own most 03:05:43

my fault by my own fault by my own most grievous fault well for I beg blessed 03:05:43

grievous fault well for I beg blessed 03:05:46

grievous fault well for I beg blessed Mary etc a new father to pray for me to 03:05:46

Mary etc a new father to pray for me to 03:05:49

Mary etc a new father to pray for me to the Lord our God and the priest says 03:05:49

the Lord our God and the priest says 03:05:55

the Lord our God and the priest says Almighty God have mercy upon you forgive 03:05:55

Almighty God have mercy upon you forgive 03:05:58

Almighty God have mercy upon you forgive you your sins and bring you to 03:05:58

you your sins and bring you to 03:05:59

you your sins and bring you to everlasting life by the authority of our 03:05:59

everlasting life by the authority of our 03:06:01

everlasting life by the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ committed unto me 03:06:01

Lord Jesus Christ committed unto me 03:06:02

Lord Jesus Christ committed unto me absolve me from all thy sins in the name 03:06:02

absolve me from all thy sins in the name 03:06:05

absolve me from all thy sins in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the 03:06:05

of the Father and of the Son and of the 03:06:06

of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit very now instead of that 03:06:06

Holy Spirit very now instead of that 03:06:10

Holy Spirit very now instead of that yeah what they had to introduce into the 03:06:10

yeah what they had to introduce into the 03:06:16

yeah what they had to introduce into the Anglican formulary was instead of this 03:06:16

Anglican formulary was instead of this 03:06:19

Anglican formulary was instead of this very simple confession of sins and 03:06:19

very simple confession of sins and 03:06:23

very simple confession of sins and before the whole company of heaven an 03:06:23

before the whole company of heaven an 03:06:27

before the whole company of heaven an absolute grovel wherein they say that 03:06:27

absolute grovel wherein they say that 03:06:32

absolute grovel wherein they say that they have sinned so horribly and that 03:06:32

they have sinned so horribly and that 03:06:37

they have sinned so horribly and that the remembrance of these sins is 03:06:37

the remembrance of these sins is 03:06:40

the remembrance of these sins is Grievous unto us the burden of them is 03:06:40

Grievous unto us the burden of them is 03:06:42

Grievous unto us the burden of them is intolerable have mercy upon us have 03:06:42

intolerable have mercy upon us have 03:06:44

intolerable have mercy upon us have mercy upon us most merciful father 03:06:44

mercy upon us most merciful father 03:06:46

mercy upon us most merciful father and all this cringing and crying 03:06:46

and all this cringing and crying 03:06:50

and all this cringing and crying breast-beating and wallowing in guilt 03:06:50

breast-beating and wallowing in guilt 03:06:52

breast-beating and wallowing in guilt and then the priest instead of saying a 03:06:52

and then the priest instead of saying a 03:06:56

and then the priest instead of saying a simple formula of absolution quotes all 03:06:56

simple formula of absolution quotes all 03:07:01

simple formula of absolution quotes all kind of scriptural texts to prove from 03:07:01

kind of scriptural texts to prove from 03:07:05

kind of scriptural texts to prove from the Bible that those who do truly 03:07:05

the Bible that those who do truly 03:07:07

the Bible that those who do truly eternity repent will be forgiven by God 03:07:07

eternity repent will be forgiven by God 03:07:10

eternity repent will be forgiven by God because they're very uncertain about it 03:07:10

because they're very uncertain about it 03:07:12

because they're very uncertain about it therefore have to quote all the 03:07:12

therefore have to quote all the 03:07:13

therefore have to quote all the authorities and this absolutely 03:07:13

authorities and this absolutely 03:07:19

authorities and this absolutely groveling form of confession replaces 03:07:19

groveling form of confession replaces 03:07:25

groveling form of confession replaces the old one because they were a little 03:07:25

the old one because they were a little 03:07:28

the old one because they were a little bit scared about abandoning direct 03:07:28

bit scared about abandoning direct 03:07:31

bit scared about abandoning direct confession of sins to the priest but now 03:07:31

confession of sins to the priest but now 03:07:34

confession of sins to the priest but now that the the the going back to the 03:07:34

that the the the going back to the 03:07:36

that the the the going back to the Catholic problem about guilt you say 03:07:36

Catholic problem about guilt you say 03:07:42

Catholic problem about guilt you say when you have confessed after saying 03:07:42

when you have confessed after saying 03:07:46

when you have confessed after saying this formula about to all the saints you 03:07:46

this formula about to all the saints you 03:07:51

this formula about to all the saints you confess the specific sins you've 03:07:51

confess the specific sins you've 03:07:54

confess the specific sins you've committed and you know I stole something 03:07:54

committed and you know I stole something 03:07:59

committed and you know I stole something committed adultery three times so on 03:07:59

committed adultery three times so on 03:08:02

committed adultery three times so on whatever it was and then you say at the 03:08:02

whatever it was and then you say at the 03:08:05

whatever it was and then you say at the end for these and all my sins which I 03:08:05

end for these and all my sins which I 03:08:07

end for these and all my sins which I cannot now remember I firmly purpose 03:08:07

cannot now remember I firmly purpose 03:08:18

cannot now remember I firmly purpose amendment and humbly ask for pardon of 03:08:18

amendment and humbly ask for pardon of 03:08:22

amendment and humbly ask for pardon of God 03:08:22

03:08:28

now I firmly purpose amendment that is 03:08:28

now I firmly purpose amendment that is 03:08:32

now I firmly purpose amendment that is where the fly in the ointment consists 03:08:32

where the fly in the ointment consists 03:08:36

where the fly in the ointment consists because the doctrine is that you have 03:08:36

because the doctrine is that you have 03:08:40

because the doctrine is that you have made a true confession if at the same 03:08:40

made a true confession if at the same 03:08:43

made a true confession if at the same time you have a sear intention of acting 03:08:43

time you have a sear intention of acting 03:08:46

time you have a sear intention of acting differently in the future now no 03:08:46

differently in the future now no 03:08:50

differently in the future now no sensitive Catholic can say that without 03:08:50

sensitive Catholic can say that without 03:08:53

sensitive Catholic can say that without having grave doubts 03:08:53

having grave doubts 03:08:56

having grave doubts as to whether actually he isn't going to 03:08:56

as to whether actually he isn't going to 03:08:59

as to whether actually he isn't going to do some of these things again so if 03:08:59

do some of these things again so if 03:09:02

do some of these things again so if you're a workaday Catholic like a 03:09:02

you're a workaday Catholic like a 03:09:05

you're a workaday Catholic like a Mexican peasant or something like that 03:09:05

Mexican peasant or something like that 03:09:07

Mexican peasant or something like that you know that the confession is just a 03:09:07

you know that the confession is just a 03:09:09

you know that the confession is just a safety valve you're going to go on 03:09:09

safety valve you're going to go on 03:09:11

safety valve you're going to go on living 03:09:11

living 03:09:11

living just as lackadaisically as ever and but 03:09:11

just as lackadaisically as ever and but 03:09:17

just as lackadaisically as ever and but you go to church every so often and you 03:09:17

you go to church every so often and you 03:09:19

you go to church every so often and you get rid of the of the the guilt and the 03:09:19

get rid of the of the the guilt and the 03:09:22

get rid of the of the the guilt and the evil it's like going to the bathroom 03:09:22

evil it's like going to the bathroom 03:09:25

evil it's like going to the bathroom but when you get the thought we get 03:09:25

but when you get the thought we get 03:09:28

but when you get the thought we get thoughtful about these things and you 03:09:28

thoughtful about these things and you 03:09:29

thoughtful about these things and you wonder whether you do really mean what 03:09:29

wonder whether you do really mean what 03:09:31

wonder whether you do really mean what you say 03:09:31

you say 03:09:33

you say whether your motive is pure and your 03:09:33

whether your motive is pure and your 03:09:35

whether your motive is pure and your intention is right you get into a 03:09:35

intention is right you get into a 03:09:37

intention is right you get into a rightful hanger so you see how this idea 03:09:37

rightful hanger so you see how this idea 03:09:44

rightful hanger so you see how this idea of the the somehow there is a book kept 03:09:44

of the the somehow there is a book kept 03:09:49

of the the somehow there is a book kept somewhere God's black book in which he 03:09:49

somewhere God's black book in which he 03:09:53

somewhere God's black book in which he writes down every mistake you made and 03:09:53

writes down every mistake you made and 03:09:57

writes down every mistake you made and then at the day of judgment there's 03:09:57

then at the day of judgment there's 03:10:00

then at the day of judgment there's going to be in accounting see and 03:10:00

going to be in accounting see and 03:10:03

going to be in accounting see and they're going to add up on one side and 03:10:03

they're going to add up on one side and 03:10:07

they're going to add up on one side and add up your good deeds on the other side 03:10:07

add up your good deeds on the other side 03:10:09

add up your good deeds on the other side and weigh them instant Michael's ballot 03:10:09

and weigh them instant Michael's ballot 03:10:12

and weigh them instant Michael's ballot balance the Archangel Michael carries in 03:10:12

balance the Archangel Michael carries in 03:10:15

balance the Archangel Michael carries in one hand a balance and in the other hand 03:10:15

one hand a balance and in the other hand 03:10:18

one hand a balance and in the other hand the sword is the older sort of prototype 03:10:18

the sword is the older sort of prototype 03:10:21

the sword is the older sort of prototype of the figure of justice and it's the 03:10:21

of the figure of justice and it's the 03:10:25

of the figure of justice and it's the good deeds against the evil deeds as in 03:10:25

good deeds against the evil deeds as in 03:10:27

good deeds against the evil deeds as in the Egyptian Book of the Dead you see 03:10:27

the Egyptian Book of the Dead you see 03:10:29

the Egyptian Book of the Dead you see the heart of the deceased weighed 03:10:29

the heart of the deceased weighed 03:10:31

the heart of the deceased weighed against the feather of truth that's a 03:10:31

against the feather of truth that's a 03:10:34

against the feather of truth that's a little more profound than the good deeds 03:10:34

little more profound than the good deeds 03:10:36

little more profound than the good deeds against the bad deeds you know your your 03:10:36

against the bad deeds you know your your 03:10:39

against the bad deeds you know your your heart has to be light as a feather you 03:10:39

heart has to be light as a feather you 03:10:42

heart has to be light as a feather you mustn't be heavy hearted so then as a 03:10:42

mustn't be heavy hearted so then as a 03:10:54

mustn't be heavy hearted so then as a result of this there arose in the latter 03:10:54

result of this there arose in the latter 03:10:58

result of this there arose in the latter part of the Middle Ages an enormously 03:10:58

part of the Middle Ages an enormously 03:11:00

part of the Middle Ages an enormously complicated system of celestial 03:11:00

complicated system of celestial 03:11:03

complicated system of celestial bookkeeping it was argued you see that 03:11:03

bookkeeping it was argued you see that 03:11:07

bookkeeping it was argued you see that the Saints 03:11:07

the Saints 03:11:08

the Saints and especially the Blessed Virgin Mary 03:11:08

and especially the Blessed Virgin Mary 03:11:11

and especially the Blessed Virgin Mary had lived lives of such sinless 03:11:11

had lived lives of such sinless 03:11:14

had lived lives of such sinless character even though to be a good saint 03:11:14

character even though to be a good saint 03:11:18

character even though to be a good saint you have to say you're a miserable 03:11:18

you have to say you're a miserable 03:11:20

you have to say you're a miserable sinner often wondered about that but 03:11:20

sinner often wondered about that but 03:11:27

sinner often wondered about that but therefore they have many merits that are 03:11:27

therefore they have many merits that are 03:11:32

therefore they have many merits that are surplice merits that they don't need in 03:11:32

surplice merits that they don't need in 03:11:36

surplice merits that they don't need in order to get into heaven and therefore 03:11:36

order to get into heaven and therefore 03:11:42

order to get into heaven and therefore by a very clever dispensation the 03:11:42

by a very clever dispensation the 03:11:45

by a very clever dispensation the surplus merits are put at the disposal 03:11:45

surplus merits are put at the disposal 03:11:47

surplus merits are put at the disposal of the Holy Father and they are 03:11:47

of the Holy Father and they are 03:11:52

of the Holy Father and they are available in the form of what are called 03:11:52

available in the form of what are called 03:11:54

available in the form of what are called indulgences and if therefore you make 03:11:54

indulgences and if therefore you make 03:11:58

indulgences and if therefore you make certain pilgrimages or save certain 03:11:58

certain pilgrimages or save certain 03:12:00

certain pilgrimages or save certain prayers or make certain contributions 03:12:00

prayers or make certain contributions 03:12:02

prayers or make certain contributions above all you may receive a plenary 03:12:02

above all you may receive a plenary 03:12:06

above all you may receive a plenary indulgence which means you get off the 03:12:06

indulgence which means you get off the 03:12:08

indulgence which means you get off the whole of the time due to you in 03:12:08

whole of the time due to you in 03:12:09

whole of the time due to you in purgatory or a partial indulgences which 03:12:09

purgatory or a partial indulgences which 03:12:13

purgatory or a partial indulgences which say of 300 days which means 300 days off 03:12:13

say of 300 days which means 300 days off 03:12:17

say of 300 days which means 300 days off your period in purgatory whatever days 03:12:17

your period in purgatory whatever days 03:12:20

your period in purgatory whatever days in purgatory may be and so an enormous 03:12:20

in purgatory may be and so an enormous 03:12:23

in purgatory may be and so an enormous ly complicated banking system was set up 03:12:23

ly complicated banking system was set up 03:12:26

ly complicated banking system was set up whereby people could settle their 03:12:26

whereby people could settle their 03:12:28

whereby people could settle their heavenly accounts by using credit issued 03:12:28

heavenly accounts by using credit issued 03:12:34

heavenly accounts by using credit issued by the Saints who were of course 03:12:34

by the Saints who were of course 03:12:38

by the Saints who were of course producing surplus goods like machines 03:12:38

03:12:49

so now this is why I made in the earlier 03:12:49

so now this is why I made in the earlier 03:12:58

so now this is why I made in the earlier part of this seminar such a big point 03:12:58

part of this seminar such a big point 03:13:04

part of this seminar such a big point about human behavior being able to be 03:13:04

about human behavior being able to be 03:13:10

about human behavior being able to be seen at its deepest level at which level 03:13:10

seen at its deepest level at which level 03:13:17

seen at its deepest level at which level and only at which level it is completely 03:13:17

and only at which level it is completely 03:13:22

and only at which level it is completely harmonious with the order of the 03:13:22

harmonious with the order of the 03:13:25

harmonious with the order of the universe this is what one is enabled to 03:13:25

universe this is what one is enabled to 03:13:30

universe this is what one is enabled to see by cosmic consciousness by seeing 03:13:30

see by cosmic consciousness by seeing 03:13:36

see by cosmic consciousness by seeing that the good things and the evil things 03:13:36

that the good things and the evil things 03:13:40

that the good things and the evil things that human beings do are just like the 03:13:40

that human beings do are just like the 03:13:44

that human beings do are just like the behavior of other creatures animals 03:13:44

behavior of other creatures animals 03:13:48

behavior of other creatures animals insects worms fish and flowers and that 03:13:48

insects worms fish and flowers and that 03:13:54

insects worms fish and flowers and that the good side has to have the bad side 03:13:54

the good side has to have the bad side 03:14:00

the good side has to have the bad side to balance it so that you know that it's 03:14:00

to balance it so that you know that it's 03:14:02

to balance it so that you know that it's good in the words of the Taoist sage 03:14:02

good in the words of the Taoist sage 03:14:06

good in the words of the Taoist sage Duong sir those who speak of having good 03:14:06

Duong sir those who speak of having good 03:14:12

Duong sir those who speak of having good government without its opposite misrule 03:14:12

government without its opposite misrule 03:14:16

government without its opposite misrule and those who speak of good behavior 03:14:16

and those who speak of good behavior 03:14:20

and those who speak of good behavior without the presence of its opposite bad 03:14:20

without the presence of its opposite bad 03:14:23

without the presence of its opposite bad behavior do not understand the great 03:14:23

behavior do not understand the great 03:14:27

behavior do not understand the great principles of the universe it is as if 03:14:27

principles of the universe it is as if 03:14:30

principles of the universe it is as if they could have the Yang without the Y 03:14:30

they could have the Yang without the Y 03:14:32

they could have the Yang without the Y in the positive without the negative and 03:14:32

in the positive without the negative and 03:14:35

in the positive without the negative and such people must be either knaves or 03:14:35

such people must be either knaves or 03:14:38

such people must be either knaves or fools now that's a saying which really 03:14:38

fools now that's a saying which really 03:14:42

fools now that's a saying which really sets us back because we Westerners are 03:14:42

sets us back because we Westerners are 03:14:47

sets us back because we Westerners are dedicated to the abolition of evil 03:14:47

dedicated to the abolition of evil 03:14:53

dedicated to the abolition of evil and but the Jews are much more sensible 03:14:53

and but the Jews are much more sensible 03:14:59

and but the Jews are much more sensible about this than the Christians because 03:14:59

about this than the Christians because 03:15:03

about this than the Christians because the Jews don't think that evil is 03:15:03

the Jews don't think that evil is 03:15:08

the Jews don't think that evil is something extraneous to God they believe 03:15:08

something extraneous to God they believe 03:15:12

something extraneous to God they believe that God created evil where it is said 03:15:12

that God created evil where it is said 03:15:15

that God created evil where it is said in the book of the prophet Isaiah I am 03:15:15

in the book of the prophet Isaiah I am 03:15:18

in the book of the prophet Isaiah I am the Lord and there is none else i form 03:15:18

the Lord and there is none else i form 03:15:21

the Lord and there is none else i form the light and create darkness I make 03:15:21

the light and create darkness I make 03:15:23

the light and create darkness I make peace and create evil either Lord do all 03:15:23

peace and create evil either Lord do all 03:15:26

peace and create evil either Lord do all these things and they believe that God 03:15:26

these things and they believe that God 03:15:29

these things and they believe that God implanted in the human heart at the 03:15:29

implanted in the human heart at the 03:15:31

implanted in the human heart at the beginning of creation when he very first 03:15:31

beginning of creation when he very first 03:15:34

beginning of creation when he very first made Adam something called the yet 03:15:34

made Adam something called the yet 03:15:36

made Adam something called the yet Sahara or the wayward spirit because he 03:15:36

Sahara or the wayward spirit because he 03:15:40

Sahara or the wayward spirit because he knew that if that wasn't there 03:15:40

knew that if that wasn't there 03:15:41

knew that if that wasn't there human life would be insipid and without 03:15:41

human life would be insipid and without 03:15:44

human life would be insipid and without the least significance there has to be 03:15:44

the least significance there has to be 03:15:47

the least significance there has to be this element and so the Jews say yes God 03:15:47

this element and so the Jews say yes God 03:15:57

this element and so the Jews say yes God is responsible for evil but he put it in 03:15:57

is responsible for evil but he put it in 03:16:01

is responsible for evil but he put it in us so that we could have something to 03:16:01

us so that we could have something to 03:16:03

us so that we could have something to fight against 03:16:03

03:16:09

and so in this way you can see at one 03:16:09

and so in this way you can see at one 03:16:13

and so in this way you can see at one level that the evil side of things is 03:16:13

level that the evil side of things is 03:16:18

level that the evil side of things is part of the total harmony it must be 03:16:18

part of the total harmony it must be 03:16:20

part of the total harmony it must be there but that the function of its being 03:16:20

there but that the function of its being 03:16:24

there but that the function of its being there is to give you something to chew 03:16:24

there is to give you something to chew 03:16:27

there is to give you something to chew on to work out you will never get rid of 03:16:27

on to work out you will never get rid of 03:16:32

on to work out you will never get rid of it but the joy of life is being in the 03:16:32

it but the joy of life is being in the 03:16:35

it but the joy of life is being in the process of getting rid of it so in other 03:16:35

process of getting rid of it so in other 03:16:39

process of getting rid of it so in other words you might say that the function of 03:16:39

words you might say that the function of 03:16:41

words you might say that the function of the devil is to be always losing the 03:16:41

the devil is to be always losing the 03:16:46

the devil is to be always losing the battle but never finally lost and the 03:16:46

battle but never finally lost and the 03:16:52

battle but never finally lost and the function of the good side is to be 03:16:52

function of the good side is to be 03:16:54

function of the good side is to be always winning the battle but never to 03:16:54

always winning the battle but never to 03:16:56

always winning the battle but never to be the victor and by this means the part 03:16:56

be the victor and by this means the part 03:17:02

be the victor and by this means the part is kept boiling interest is kept up and 03:17:02

is kept boiling interest is kept up and 03:17:05

is kept boiling interest is kept up and everything is kept moving so that of 03:17:05

everything is kept moving so that of 03:17:08

everything is kept moving so that of course if we solve certain economic 03:17:08

course if we solve certain economic 03:17:10

course if we solve certain economic problems for example and we have a world 03:17:10

problems for example and we have a world 03:17:14

problems for example and we have a world where people are not committed to 03:17:14

where people are not committed to 03:17:17

where people are not committed to drudgery we shall discover social evil 03:17:17

drudgery we shall discover social evil 03:17:21

drudgery we shall discover social evil in some new form it's exactly the same 03:17:21

in some new form it's exactly the same 03:17:25

in some new form it's exactly the same is when you are worried sick about money 03:17:25

is when you are worried sick about money 03:17:27

is when you are worried sick about money and are you going to make the payments 03:17:27

and are you going to make the payments 03:17:28

and are you going to make the payments on the house and the car and all that 03:17:28

on the house and the car and all that 03:17:30

on the house and the car and all that the insurance you think if only I could 03:17:30

the insurance you think if only I could 03:17:33

the insurance you think if only I could have a lot more money I'd be so happy 03:17:33

have a lot more money I'd be so happy 03:17:34

have a lot more money I'd be so happy and then somehow you get it and for a 03:17:34

and then somehow you get it and for a 03:17:38

and then somehow you get it and for a few days you're ecstatic and walking on 03:17:38

few days you're ecstatic and walking on 03:17:40

few days you're ecstatic and walking on air then you suddenly realize that you 03:17:40

air then you suddenly realize that you 03:17:45

air then you suddenly realize that you might get sick or that someone the 03:17:45

might get sick or that someone the 03:17:50

might get sick or that someone the government or burglars or something 03:17:50

government or burglars or something 03:17:52

government or burglars or something might take your money away from you and 03:17:52

might take your money away from you and 03:17:54

might take your money away from you and you start worrying about that with just 03:17:54

you start worrying about that with just 03:17:57

you start worrying about that with just the same intensity as you had formerly 03:17:57

the same intensity as you had formerly 03:18:00

the same intensity as you had formerly worried about not having enough money so 03:18:00

worried about not having enough money so 03:18:05

worried about not having enough money so we always find if you are a worried bird 03:18:05

we always find if you are a worried bird 03:18:08

we always find if you are a worried bird you will always find something to worry 03:18:08

you will always find something to worry 03:18:10

you will always find something to worry about it no matter what happens in your 03:18:10

about it no matter what happens in your 03:18:13

about it no matter what happens in your external circumstances and so we may be 03:18:13

external circumstances and so we may be 03:18:16

external circumstances and so we may be assured that when the human race goes to 03:18:16

assured that when the human race goes to 03:18:19

assured that when the human race goes to full economic prosperity and there is 03:18:19

full economic prosperity and there is 03:18:21

full economic prosperity and there is nothing 03:18:21

nothing 03:18:22

nothing to be worried about in the way of 03:18:22

to be worried about in the way of 03:18:24

to be worried about in the way of housing and clothing and food that we 03:18:24

housing and clothing and food that we 03:18:27

housing and clothing and food that we shall instead worry quite fervently 03:18:27

shall instead worry quite fervently 03:18:29

shall instead worry quite fervently about something else because you see we 03:18:29

about something else because you see we 03:18:35

about something else because you see we are always really in the same place this 03:18:35

are always really in the same place this 03:18:38

are always really in the same place this is the basic understanding of relativity 03:18:38

03:18:46

it always reminds me of so Cedric 03:18:46

it always reminds me of so Cedric 03:18:49

it always reminds me of so Cedric Hardwicke when asked about his life he 03:18:49

Hardwicke when asked about his life he 03:18:54

Hardwicke when asked about his life he died just a little while ago and he 03:18:54

died just a little while ago and he 03:18:56

died just a little while ago and he lived there for across the centuries he 03:18:56

lived there for across the centuries he 03:19:02

lived there for across the centuries he said if I had really had my wish as to 03:19:02

said if I had really had my wish as to 03:19:06

said if I had really had my wish as to when I would have liked to live I would 03:19:06

when I would have liked to live I would 03:19:08

when I would have liked to live I would have liked to have been a grown adult in 03:19:08

have liked to have been a grown adult in 03:19:10

have liked to have been a grown adult in the high Victorian age with penicillin 03:19:10

the high Victorian age with penicillin 03:19:15

the high Victorian age with penicillin [Laughter] 03:19:15

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now those of us therefore who remember 03:19:24

now those of us therefore who remember 03:19:28

now those of us therefore who remember from childhood the abominable dentistry 03:19:28

from childhood the abominable dentistry 03:19:32

from childhood the abominable dentistry of the British are very thankful indeed 03:19:32

of the British are very thankful indeed 03:19:35

of the British are very thankful indeed for American dentistry I remember as a 03:19:35

for American dentistry I remember as a 03:19:39

for American dentistry I remember as a boy that dentistry was just torture and 03:19:39

boy that dentistry was just torture and 03:19:42

boy that dentistry was just torture and the American dentists have changed all 03:19:42

the American dentists have changed all 03:19:45

the American dentists have changed all that I am therefore in a position of 03:19:45

that I am therefore in a position of 03:19:48

that I am therefore in a position of relativity to remember this change and 03:19:48

relativity to remember this change and 03:19:51

relativity to remember this change and still feel its effect and I'm very 03:19:51

still feel its effect and I'm very 03:19:53

still feel its effect and I'm very grateful for it but my children who are 03:19:53

grateful for it but my children who are 03:19:58

grateful for it but my children who are accustomed to fine American dentistry 03:19:58

accustomed to fine American dentistry 03:20:00

accustomed to fine American dentistry from the beginning are less appreciative 03:20:00

from the beginning are less appreciative 03:20:03

from the beginning are less appreciative of the situation and therefore have 03:20:03

of the situation and therefore have 03:20:05

of the situation and therefore have other worries so you see when I would 03:20:05

other worries so you see when I would 03:20:14

other worries so you see when I would say one of the great philosophical 03:20:14

say one of the great philosophical 03:20:16

say one of the great philosophical questions is are we going to make it 03:20:16

questions is are we going to make it 03:20:21

questions is are we going to make it that all beings at every scale 03:20:21

that all beings at every scale 03:20:24

that all beings at every scale whatsoever from the angels and gods at 03:20:24

whatsoever from the angels and gods at 03:20:29

whatsoever from the angels and gods at the very highest development of 03:20:29

the very highest development of 03:20:30

the very highest development of evolution down to the most obscure 03:20:30

evolution down to the most obscure 03:20:33

evolution down to the most obscure little creepy crawlies all feel about 03:20:33

little creepy crawlies all feel about 03:20:38

little creepy crawlies all feel about life the same way how are we going to 03:20:38

life the same way how are we going to 03:20:42

life the same way how are we going to make it an Angels problem is a very 03:20:42

make it an Angels problem is a very 03:20:46

make it an Angels problem is a very different kind of problem from the 03:20:46

different kind of problem from the 03:20:48

different kind of problem from the problem of a common worm about as 03:20:48

problem of a common worm about as 03:20:54

problem of a common worm about as meister eckhart said if a stone were as 03:20:54

meister eckhart said if a stone were as 03:20:57

meister eckhart said if a stone were as aware as an angel a stone could be as 03:20:57

aware as an angel a stone could be as 03:21:00

aware as an angel a stone could be as happy as an angel or perhaps as 03:21:00

happy as an angel or perhaps as 03:21:03

happy as an angel or perhaps as miserable it is said in the holy texts 03:21:03

miserable it is said in the holy texts 03:21:08

miserable it is said in the holy texts of christianity that there are occasions 03:21:08

of christianity that there are occasions 03:21:10

of christianity that there are occasions upon which the Angels weep what sort of 03:21:10

upon which the Angels weep what sort of 03:21:14

upon which the Angels weep what sort of thing would make an angel weep here you 03:21:14

thing would make an angel weep here you 03:21:23

thing would make an angel weep here you see the problem of life at every level 03:21:23

see the problem of life at every level 03:21:26

see the problem of life at every level of evolution in the whole thing it's 03:21:26

of evolution in the whole thing it's 03:21:28

of evolution in the whole thing it's always the same blue sash our Bissell mm 03:21:28

always the same blue sash our Bissell mm 03:21:31

always the same blue sash our Bissell mm shows more it changes the more it's the 03:21:31

shows more it changes the more it's the 03:21:33

shows more it changes the more it's the same thing because everybody's really in 03:21:33

same thing because everybody's really in 03:21:36

same thing because everybody's really in the same situation 03:21:36

the same situation 03:21:38

the same situation the great dare are we going to make it 03:21:38

the great dare are we going to make it 03:21:44

the great dare are we going to make it because this is the situation of the 03:21:44

because this is the situation of the 03:21:46

because this is the situation of the cosmos the cosmos when the Hindus say 03:21:46

cosmos the cosmos when the Hindus say 03:21:50

cosmos the cosmos when the Hindus say God is playing hide and seek with 03:21:50

God is playing hide and seek with 03:21:53

God is playing hide and seek with himself and every now and then the 03:21:53

himself and every now and then the 03:21:55

himself and every now and then the Brahman the supreme self deliberately 03:21:55

Brahman the supreme self deliberately 03:21:59

Brahman the supreme self deliberately falls into the illusion of Maya and 03:21:59

falls into the illusion of Maya and 03:22:02

falls into the illusion of Maya and pretends that he's all of us 03:22:02

pretends that he's all of us 03:22:04

pretends that he's all of us well that's God also saying how far out 03:22:04

well that's God also saying how far out 03:22:08

well that's God also saying how far out can I get next time around yeah yeah am 03:22:08

can I get next time around yeah yeah am 03:22:13

can I get next time around yeah yeah am I going to make it and therefore thinks 03:22:13

I going to make it and therefore thinks 03:22:16

I going to make it and therefore thinks up some fantastic way of getting lost we 03:22:16

up some fantastic way of getting lost we 03:22:19

up some fantastic way of getting lost we are one of these ways you see and 03:22:19

are one of these ways you see and 03:22:23

are one of these ways you see and creates the horrors and the shudders and 03:22:23

creates the horrors and the shudders and 03:22:26

creates the horrors and the shudders and most appalling situations in each one of 03:22:26

most appalling situations in each one of 03:22:31

most appalling situations in each one of which says am I going to make it and the 03:22:31

which says am I going to make it and the 03:22:36

which says am I going to make it and the answer is no you're not gonna make 03:22:36

03:22:45

you're gonna get away with it for a 03:22:45

you're gonna get away with it for a 03:22:48

you're gonna get away with it for a while yeah you'll get away with it for a 03:22:48

while yeah you'll get away with it for a 03:22:50

while yeah you'll get away with it for a while but in the end no you're not gonna 03:22:50

while but in the end no you're not gonna 03:22:52

while but in the end no you're not gonna make it oh why not but for obvious 03:22:52

make it oh why not but for obvious 03:22:57

make it oh why not but for obvious reasons look at a star a star is a great 03:22:57

reasons look at a star a star is a great 03:23:04

reasons look at a star a star is a great burst of fire see well the question is 03:23:04

burst of fire see well the question is 03:23:09

burst of fire see well the question is how far to go the fire goes out and out 03:23:09

how far to go the fire goes out and out 03:23:14

how far to go the fire goes out and out and out and out and out and then 03:23:14

and out and out and out and then 03:23:15

and out and out and out and then suddenly it begins to fade the energy 03:23:15

suddenly it begins to fade the energy 03:23:17

suddenly it begins to fade the energy falls away and there's darkness unless 03:23:17

falls away and there's darkness unless 03:23:21

falls away and there's darkness unless something is there to reflect the more 03:23:21

something is there to reflect the more 03:23:24

something is there to reflect the more tenuous form of the fire which is light 03:23:24

tenuous form of the fire which is light 03:23:27

tenuous form of the fire which is light that is being thrown out to immense 03:23:27

that is being thrown out to immense 03:23:29

that is being thrown out to immense distances but eventually light gives up 03:23:29

distances but eventually light gives up 03:23:32

distances but eventually light gives up and that's why some of the farthest 03:23:32

and that's why some of the farthest 03:23:35

and that's why some of the farthest galaxies are beginning to disappear 03:23:35

galaxies are beginning to disappear 03:23:38

galaxies are beginning to disappear because it's too far for the light it 03:23:38

because it's too far for the light it 03:23:40

because it's too far for the light it gives up eventually because if there 03:23:40

gives up eventually because if there 03:23:44

gives up eventually because if there isn't a point you see where the light 03:23:44

isn't a point you see where the light 03:23:45

isn't a point you see where the light gives up all the radiance gives up it 03:23:45

gives up all the radiance gives up it 03:23:50

gives up all the radiance gives up it fills everything and therefore has no 03:23:50

fills everything and therefore has no 03:23:54

fills everything and therefore has no way of realizing itself because you can 03:23:54

way of realizing itself because you can 03:23:57

way of realizing itself because you can only realize light by the contrast of 03:23:57

only realize light by the contrast of 03:23:59

only realize light by the contrast of darkness and that's why then you as a 03:23:59

darkness and that's why then you as a 03:24:03

darkness and that's why then you as a ray which shoots out of the Godhead will 03:24:03

ray which shoots out of the Godhead will 03:24:08

ray which shoots out of the Godhead will say are we going to make it in other 03:24:08

say are we going to make it in other 03:24:11

say are we going to make it in other words how long a ray there to be it'd be 03:24:11

words how long a ray there to be it'd be 03:24:14

words how long a ray there to be it'd be a long long ray or a little short one 03:24:14

a long long ray or a little short one 03:24:17

a long long ray or a little short one and some people think well if I'm only a 03:24:17

and some people think well if I'm only a 03:24:21

and some people think well if I'm only a short ray it's not really a great 03:24:21

short ray it's not really a great 03:24:22

short ray it's not really a great success I want to be a long ray I want 03:24:22

success I want to be a long ray I want 03:24:26

success I want to be a long ray I want to live till I'm 90 or maybe a hundred 03:24:26

to live till I'm 90 or maybe a hundred 03:24:28

to live till I'm 90 or maybe a hundred get longer and longer then you must 03:24:28

get longer and longer then you must 03:24:31

get longer and longer then you must listen to the Zen poem which says in the 03:24:31

listen to the Zen poem which says in the 03:24:36

listen to the Zen poem which says in the spring in the scenery of spring 03:24:36

spring in the scenery of spring 03:24:39

spring in the scenery of spring there is nothing superior nothing 03:24:39

there is nothing superior nothing 03:24:42

there is nothing superior nothing inferior flowering branches grow 03:24:42

inferior flowering branches grow 03:24:45

inferior flowering branches grow naturally some short some long 03:24:45

naturally some short some long 03:24:49

naturally some short some long and when one of the great Zen masters 03:24:49

and when one of the great Zen masters 03:24:53

and when one of the great Zen masters was asked about the meaning of Buddhism 03:24:53

was asked about the meaning of Buddhism 03:24:57

was asked about the meaning of Buddhism he said to the Enquirer wait till 03:24:57

he said to the Enquirer wait till 03:25:00

he said to the Enquirer wait till there's no one around and I'll tell you 03:25:00

there's no one around and I'll tell you 03:25:03

there's no one around and I'll tell you when there was no one around he took 03:25:03

when there was no one around he took 03:25:08

when there was no one around he took this Enquirer out into the garden and 03:25:08

this Enquirer out into the garden and 03:25:10

this Enquirer out into the garden and pointed at the bamboos and The Enquirer 03:25:10

pointed at the bamboos and The Enquirer 03:25:16

pointed at the bamboos and The Enquirer said I don't understand and he said what 03:25:16

said I don't understand and he said what 03:25:20

said I don't understand and he said what a long bamboo that one is what a short 03:25:20

a long bamboo that one is what a short 03:25:22

a long bamboo that one is what a short one that so what a long way that one is 03:25:22

one that so what a long way that one is 03:25:31

one that so what a long way that one is what a short one that is see if you look 03:25:31

what a short one that is see if you look 03:25:36

what a short one that is see if you look at some sort of stellar form object it 03:25:36

at some sort of stellar form object it 03:25:42

at some sort of stellar form object it adds great interest to it if it's rays 03:25:42

adds great interest to it if it's rays 03:25:45

adds great interest to it if it's rays are of unequal length if they're all 03:25:45

are of unequal length if they're all 03:25:48

are of unequal length if they're all equal it looks sort of flat and 03:25:48

equal it looks sort of flat and 03:25:49

equal it looks sort of flat and mechanical by having all sorts of 03:25:49

mechanical by having all sorts of 03:25:53

mechanical by having all sorts of different lengths as you find them in 03:25:53

different lengths as you find them in 03:25:54

different lengths as you find them in some of those gorgeous radiolaria 03:25:54

some of those gorgeous radiolaria 03:25:56

some of those gorgeous radiolaria creatures that are minut and amount 03:25:56

creatures that are minut and amount 03:26:00

creatures that are minut and amount fools of the ocean you see all these 03:26:00

fools of the ocean you see all these 03:26:03

fools of the ocean you see all these there's a certain balance of length 03:26:03

there's a certain balance of length 03:26:05

there's a certain balance of length there's a certain average which gives it 03:26:05

there's a certain average which gives it 03:26:07

there's a certain average which gives it a globular form but many different 03:26:07

a globular form but many different 03:26:10

a globular form but many different lengths in the stems so you see are we 03:26:10

lengths in the stems so you see are we 03:26:16

lengths in the stems so you see are we gonna make it how far out can you get 03:26:16

gonna make it how far out can you get 03:26:22

gonna make it how far out can you get this is always the question but then 03:26:22

this is always the question but then 03:26:25

this is always the question but then you're not gonna make it at that point 03:26:25

you're not gonna make it at that point 03:26:27

you're not gonna make it at that point the Ray finishes and we call that death 03:26:27

03:26:33

but you are actually not the Ray so much 03:26:33

but you are actually not the Ray so much 03:26:38

but you are actually not the Ray so much as the source of the Ray that's where 03:26:38

as the source of the Ray that's where 03:26:40

as the source of the Ray that's where you are ready and the sauce doesn't 03:26:40

you are ready and the sauce doesn't 03:26:42

you are ready and the sauce doesn't vanish you see the sauce is there always 03:26:42

vanish you see the sauce is there always 03:26:45

vanish you see the sauce is there always but is shooting out shooting out 03:26:45

but is shooting out shooting out 03:26:47

but is shooting out shooting out shooting out and then vanish 03:26:47

shooting out and then vanish 03:26:53

shooting out and then vanish so then if you remember that for that at 03:26:53

so then if you remember that for that at 03:26:56

so then if you remember that for that at every stage of the universe whether you 03:26:56

every stage of the universe whether you 03:27:01

every stage of the universe whether you are up there with the gods or whether 03:27:01

are up there with the gods or whether 03:27:03

are up there with the gods or whether you are down there with the what we 03:27:03

you are down there with the what we 03:27:07

you are down there with the what we could call human refuse you have you are 03:27:07

could call human refuse you have you are 03:27:11

could call human refuse you have you are basically in the same situation because 03:27:11

basically in the same situation because 03:27:14

basically in the same situation because everybody is basically in the same 03:27:14

everybody is basically in the same 03:27:16

everybody is basically in the same situation for the reason that everybody 03:27:16

situation for the reason that everybody 03:27:18

situation for the reason that everybody is basically the divine being working 03:27:18

is basically the divine being working 03:27:22

is basically the divine being working out the panorama of its life in millions 03:27:22

out the panorama of its life in millions 03:27:26

out the panorama of its life in millions of different ways and these differences 03:27:26

of different ways and these differences 03:27:28

of different ways and these differences of ways require spectra of many kinds 03:27:28

of ways require spectra of many kinds 03:27:33

of ways require spectra of many kinds there's the spectrum of color there's 03:27:33

there's the spectrum of color there's 03:27:36

there's the spectrum of color there's the spectrum of tones but there is also 03:27:36

the spectrum of tones but there is also 03:27:39

the spectrum of tones but there is also the spectrum of orders of being so that 03:27:39

the spectrum of orders of being so that 03:27:45

the spectrum of orders of being so that from the most minut animalcules right up 03:27:45

from the most minut animalcules right up 03:27:49

from the most minut animalcules right up through all kinds of animals through 03:27:49

through all kinds of animals through 03:27:52

through all kinds of animals through human beings of every grade to the gods 03:27:52

human beings of every grade to the gods 03:27:55

human beings of every grade to the gods you'll have a great spectrum and just as 03:27:55

you'll have a great spectrum and just as 03:28:00

you'll have a great spectrum and just as at one end of the spectrum you have 03:28:00

at one end of the spectrum you have 03:28:03

at one end of the spectrum you have purple and that the other you have red 03:28:03

purple and that the other you have red 03:28:05

purple and that the other you have red but now look what is purple purple is 03:28:05

but now look what is purple purple is 03:28:11

but now look what is purple purple is blue mixed with red spectrum goes right 03:28:11

blue mixed with red spectrum goes right 03:28:14

blue mixed with red spectrum goes right the way around and therefore if we say 03:28:14

the way around and therefore if we say 03:28:19

the way around and therefore if we say that do begin any end you want to but if 03:28:19

that do begin any end you want to but if 03:28:25

that do begin any end you want to but if we say that the purple end like the 03:28:25

we say that the purple end like the 03:28:28

we say that the purple end like the deeps of the waters of the very 03:28:28

deeps of the waters of the very 03:28:30

deeps of the waters of the very primitive forms of life and the red the 03:28:30

primitive forms of life and the red the 03:28:34

primitive forms of life and the red the most radiant they are actually if you 03:28:34

most radiant they are actually if you 03:28:38

most radiant they are actually if you see the spectrum as a circle they join 03:28:38

03:28:44

so that when you get up the only place 03:28:44

so that when you get up the only place 03:28:48

so that when you get up the only place to go is down 03:28:48

03:28:53

unless somehow you can go back into the 03:28:53

unless somehow you can go back into the 03:28:57

unless somehow you can go back into the white light at the center which is 03:28:57

white light at the center which is 03:29:02

white light at the center which is neither up nor down neither good nor bad 03:29:02

neither up nor down neither good nor bad 03:29:04

neither up nor down neither good nor bad just what there is substance so I think 03:29:04

just what there is substance so I think 03:29:10

just what there is substance so I think that one of the things that should be 03:29:10

that one of the things that should be 03:29:12

that one of the things that should be drawn is a symbol of a circular spectrum 03:29:12

drawn is a symbol of a circular spectrum 03:29:16

drawn is a symbol of a circular spectrum instead of one that's stretched out on a 03:29:16

instead of one that's stretched out on a 03:29:18

instead of one that's stretched out on a tape and that would tell something to 03:29:18

tape and that would tell something to 03:29:22

tape and that would tell something to people that no amount of words can 03:29:22

people that no amount of words can 03:29:24

people that no amount of words can convey it would speak to the unconscious 03:29:24

convey it would speak to the unconscious 03:29:28

convey it would speak to the unconscious in us to the depth of understanding that 03:29:28

in us to the depth of understanding that 03:29:31

in us to the depth of understanding that are much more subtle than our 03:29:31

are much more subtle than our 03:29:33

are much more subtle than our intellectual thinking and everybody 03:29:33

intellectual thinking and everybody 03:29:36

intellectual thinking and everybody could see this everywhere and it would 03:29:36

could see this everywhere and it would 03:29:38

could see this everywhere and it would convey the message about 03:29:38

convey the message about 03:29:40

convey the message about ring-around-the-rosy 03:29:40

03:29:43

as is said in the Chinese texts of drunk 03:29:43

as is said in the Chinese texts of drunk 03:29:48

as is said in the Chinese texts of drunk sir what is the center of a circle the 03:29:48

sir what is the center of a circle the 03:29:52

sir what is the center of a circle the center of a circle the true center is 03:29:52

center of a circle the true center is 03:29:54

center of a circle the true center is any point on the circumference because 03:29:54

any point on the circumference because 03:29:58

any point on the circumference because you can start the circle anywhere and 03:29:58

you can start the circle anywhere and 03:30:01

you can start the circle anywhere and finish it anything so there's a Cohen in 03:30:01

finish it anything so there's a Cohen in 03:30:05

finish it anything so there's a Cohen in Zen which says Indra built a seamless 03:30:05

Zen which says Indra built a seamless 03:30:08

Zen which says Indra built a seamless tower you know when a sleeve has a seam 03:30:08

tower you know when a sleeve has a seam 03:30:12

tower you know when a sleeve has a seam on it this is a zip where where the 03:30:12

on it this is a zip where where the 03:30:14

on it this is a zip where where the cloth begins and have to take it round 03:30:14

cloth begins and have to take it round 03:30:16

cloth begins and have to take it round and sew it so it has a seam now imagine 03:30:16

and sew it so it has a seam now imagine 03:30:19

and sew it so it has a seam now imagine here's a tower but it has no seam Indra 03:30:19

here's a tower but it has no seam Indra 03:30:26

here's a tower but it has no seam Indra built the seamless tower where did he 03:30:26

built the seamless tower where did he 03:30:28

built the seamless tower where did he begin 03:30:28

03:30:33

so in in the in nature then one has this 03:30:33

so in in the in nature then one has this 03:30:39

so in in the in nature then one has this seamless order where every point on it 03:30:39

seamless order where every point on it 03:30:44

seamless order where every point on it is central and therefore feels in the 03:30:44

is central and therefore feels in the 03:30:47

is central and therefore feels in the same situation envying those above and 03:30:47

same situation envying those above and 03:30:50

same situation envying those above and pitying those below and there is always 03:30:50

pitying those below and there is always 03:30:53

pitying those below and there is always a below maybe the most primitive 03:30:53

a below maybe the most primitive 03:30:56

a below maybe the most primitive animalcules imaginable have pity on the 03:30:56

animalcules imaginable have pity on the 03:30:59

animalcules imaginable have pity on the angels so let's take an intermission 03:30:59

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you 03:32:21

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