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I was making a basic comparison between 00:00:00

I was making a basic comparison between 00:00:05

I was making a basic comparison between the state of consciousness of a baby and 00:00:05

the state of consciousness of a baby and 00:00:12

the state of consciousness of a baby and that of a so-called mature adult 00:00:12

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respectively what we would call 00:00:19

respectively what we would call 00:00:20

respectively what we would call undifferentiated and differentiated the 00:00:20

undifferentiated and differentiated the 00:00:27

undifferentiated and differentiated the adult consciousness being highly 00:00:27

adult consciousness being highly 00:00:30

adult consciousness being highly selective and the baby consciousness 00:00:30

selective and the baby consciousness 00:00:35

selective and the baby consciousness being very open and hardly selective at 00:00:35

being very open and hardly selective at 00:00:40

being very open and hardly selective at all and therefore unable to distinguish 00:00:40

all and therefore unable to distinguish 00:00:44

all and therefore unable to distinguish what adults considered to be the 00:00:44

what adults considered to be the 00:00:45

what adults considered to be the important things which have to do with 00:00:45

important things which have to do with 00:00:49

important things which have to do with the conventions and rules that the 00:00:49

the conventions and rules that the 00:00:54

the conventions and rules that the positive aspects whether they be called 00:00:54

positive aspects whether they be called 00:00:57

positive aspects whether they be called good or Pleasant or life-giving and so 00:00:57

good or Pleasant or life-giving and so 00:01:00

good or Pleasant or life-giving and so on 00:01:00

on 00:01:01

on must prevail over the negative aspects 00:01:01

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and I went on to show that this contrast 00:01:07

and I went on to show that this contrast 00:01:15

and I went on to show that this contrast between the two views of the world has 00:01:15

between the two views of the world has 00:01:20

between the two views of the world has another marked characteristic that in 00:01:20

another marked characteristic that in 00:01:24

another marked characteristic that in the case of the baby who hasn't been 00:01:24

the case of the baby who hasn't been 00:01:26

the case of the baby who hasn't been trained or told about the difference 00:01:26

trained or told about the difference 00:01:31

trained or told about the difference between himself and all that is defined 00:01:31

between himself and all that is defined 00:01:34

between himself and all that is defined as other than himself doesn't 00:01:34

as other than himself doesn't 00:01:37

as other than himself doesn't distinguish between voluntary behavior 00:01:37

distinguish between voluntary behavior 00:01:40

distinguish between voluntary behavior and involuntary occurrence and of course 00:01:40

and involuntary occurrence and of course 00:01:49

and involuntary occurrence and of course we think this is a very fundamental 00:01:49

we think this is a very fundamental 00:01:51

we think this is a very fundamental defect but if we go back you see to a 00:01:51

defect but if we go back you see to a 00:01:57

defect but if we go back you see to a principle that underlies the whole 00:01:57

principle that underlies the whole 00:01:59

principle that underlies the whole universe with a kind of mathematical 00:01:59

universe with a kind of mathematical 00:02:01

universe with a kind of mathematical exactitude we see that if we reduce 00:02:01

exactitude we see that if we reduce 00:02:04

exactitude we see that if we reduce things to this entire situation of 00:02:04

things to this entire situation of 00:02:06

things to this entire situation of primal simplicity 00:02:06

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and we have a primordial self and other 00:02:09

and we have a primordial self and other 00:02:14

and we have a primordial self and other situation that is to say two balls in 00:02:14

situation that is to say two balls in 00:02:19

situation that is to say two balls in space there is absolutely no way of 00:02:19

space there is absolutely no way of 00:02:25

space there is absolutely no way of telling when they move which one of them 00:02:25

telling when they move which one of them 00:02:28

telling when they move which one of them is moving or which one is still they 00:02:28

is moving or which one is still they 00:02:33

is moving or which one is still they must necessarily appear to move mutually 00:02:33

must necessarily appear to move mutually 00:02:37

must necessarily appear to move mutually there's no point of reference except 00:02:37

there's no point of reference except 00:02:40

there's no point of reference except each other to determine which is moving 00:02:40

each other to determine which is moving 00:02:43

each other to determine which is moving and which is still now everything that 00:02:43

and which is still now everything that 00:02:44

and which is still now everything that goes on in the universe is simply a 00:02:44

goes on in the universe is simply a 00:02:46

goes on in the universe is simply a complication of that principle because 00:02:46

complication of that principle because 00:02:50

complication of that principle because the same thing holds true if you 00:02:50

the same thing holds true if you 00:02:52

the same thing holds true if you multiply the number of balls you will 00:02:52

multiply the number of balls you will 00:02:55

multiply the number of balls you will see that that primordial principle that 00:02:55

see that that primordial principle that 00:02:58

see that that primordial principle that all movement is mutual still applies and 00:02:58

all movement is mutual still applies and 00:03:04

all movement is mutual still applies and therefore the babies failure to 00:03:04

therefore the babies failure to 00:03:07

therefore the babies failure to distinguish between the voluntary in the 00:03:07

distinguish between the voluntary in the 00:03:09

distinguish between the voluntary in the involuntary the eye and the other is in 00:03:09

involuntary the eye and the other is in 00:03:13

involuntary the eye and the other is in a way correct 00:03:13

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psychologists psychoanalysts in 00:03:17

psychologists psychoanalysts in 00:03:20

psychologists psychoanalysts in particular make a great deal of this 00:03:20

particular make a great deal of this 00:03:23

particular make a great deal of this contrast and consider that the babies 00:03:23

contrast and consider that the babies 00:03:26

contrast and consider that the babies view is inferior to the adults and if an 00:03:26

view is inferior to the adults and if an 00:03:30

view is inferior to the adults and if an adult should acquire that view in 00:03:30

adult should acquire that view in 00:03:34

adult should acquire that view in psychoanalysis this would be called 00:03:34

psychoanalysis this would be called 00:03:36

psychoanalysis this would be called regression the point that is missed is 00:03:36

regression the point that is missed is 00:03:44

regression the point that is missed is that the two ways of looking at things 00:03:44

that the two ways of looking at things 00:03:46

that the two ways of looking at things need each other to balance out and that 00:03:46

need each other to balance out and that 00:03:52

need each other to balance out and that one needs the babies view as a basis for 00:03:52

one needs the babies view as a basis for 00:03:57

one needs the babies view as a basis for the adult view because if you don't have 00:03:57

the adult view because if you don't have 00:03:59

the adult view because if you don't have it you take the adult view to seriously 00:03:59

it you take the adult view to seriously 00:04:02

it you take the adult view to seriously get completely carried away by it and 00:04:02

get completely carried away by it and 00:04:04

get completely carried away by it and that would be analogous to a person who 00:04:04

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in playing poker loses his nerve because 00:04:11

in playing poker loses his nerve because 00:04:19

in playing poker loses his nerve because he doesn't realize it's only a game 00:04:19

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and so he becomes a very bad player in 00:04:24

and so he becomes a very bad player in 00:04:30

and so he becomes a very bad player in exactly the same way we in life are only 00:04:30

exactly the same way we in life are only 00:04:33

exactly the same way we in life are only playing again but because we didn't keep 00:04:33

playing again but because we didn't keep 00:04:37

playing again but because we didn't keep the baby view we can't see it so what we 00:04:37

the baby view we can't see it so what we 00:04:43

the baby view we can't see it so what we would call a Buddha view is one that 00:04:43

would call a Buddha view is one that 00:04:47

would call a Buddha view is one that knows both and therefore is not taken in 00:04:47

knows both and therefore is not taken in 00:04:54

knows both and therefore is not taken in by the adult games although perfectly 00:04:54

by the adult games although perfectly 00:05:00

by the adult games although perfectly capable of playing but insofar as they 00:05:00

capable of playing but insofar as they 00:05:04

capable of playing but insofar as they are not regarded as finally and 00:05:04

are not regarded as finally and 00:05:06

are not regarded as finally and absolutely serious he is not captivated 00:05:06

absolutely serious he is not captivated 00:05:12

absolutely serious he is not captivated by them 00:05:12

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now therefore one asked the question 00:05:22

now therefore one asked the question 00:05:28

now therefore one asked the question that sounds very interesting but how do 00:05:28

that sounds very interesting but how do 00:05:33

that sounds very interesting but how do I recapture the baby point of view and I 00:05:33

I recapture the baby point of view and I 00:05:38

I recapture the baby point of view and I showed that that was the wrong question 00:05:38

showed that that was the wrong question 00:05:40

showed that that was the wrong question because it arises entirely and 00:05:40

because it arises entirely and 00:05:44

because it arises entirely and exclusively out of the adult point of 00:05:44

exclusively out of the adult point of 00:05:46

exclusively out of the adult point of view because the adult point of view 00:05:46

view because the adult point of view 00:05:49

view because the adult point of view involves the fiction that I exist as an 00:05:49

involves the fiction that I exist as an 00:05:57

involves the fiction that I exist as an agent independently of everything else 00:05:57

agent independently of everything else 00:06:00

agent independently of everything else that's going on and so I ask how can I 00:06:00

that's going on and so I ask how can I 00:06:04

that's going on and so I ask how can I do this and the important thing is to 00:06:04

do this and the important thing is to 00:06:08

do this and the important thing is to realize that the feeling house there 00:06:08

realize that the feeling house there 00:06:11

realize that the feeling house there being this isolated I his part of the 00:06:11

being this isolated I his part of the 00:06:18

being this isolated I his part of the game and it has no fundamental reality 00:06:18

game and it has no fundamental reality 00:06:23

game and it has no fundamental reality except as a convention and so long as 00:06:23

except as a convention and so long as 00:06:28

except as a convention and so long as that isn't clear we're confused I 00:06:28

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reiterated the point that when we ask to 00:06:34

reiterated the point that when we ask to 00:06:37

reiterated the point that when we ask to whom must had become clear or to whom is 00:06:37

whom must had become clear or to whom is 00:06:39

whom must had become clear or to whom is it not clear that this too was all part 00:06:39

it not clear that this too was all part 00:06:43

it not clear that this too was all part of the illusion of the world that the 00:06:43

of the illusion of the world that the 00:06:48

of the illusion of the world that the adult presents to the child so the only 00:06:48

adult presents to the child so the only 00:06:54

adult presents to the child so the only way in which the child's vision can come 00:06:54

way in which the child's vision can come 00:06:58

way in which the child's vision can come again is in the realization that the I 00:06:58

again is in the realization that the I 00:07:04

again is in the realization that the I can't do anything about it at all and 00:07:04

can't do anything about it at all and 00:07:11

can't do anything about it at all and can't even do nothing about it all 00:07:11

can't even do nothing about it all 00:07:16

can't even do nothing about it all possibilities our vision for what we 00:07:16

possibilities our vision for what we 00:07:19

possibilities our vision for what we call I myself are out and this and of 00:07:19

call I myself are out and this and of 00:07:28

call I myself are out and this and of course is the same meaning that the 00:07:28

course is the same meaning that the 00:07:30

course is the same meaning that the Christian or the Islamic mystics would 00:07:30

Christian or the Islamic mystics would 00:07:33

Christian or the Islamic mystics would say that the Mystics 00:07:33

say that the Mystics 00:07:36

say that the Mystics is the gift of God and there's nothing 00:07:36

is the gift of God and there's nothing 00:07:39

is the gift of God and there's nothing you can do to get it 00:07:39

you can do to get it 00:07:41

you can do to get it that's a clumsy way really of saying the 00:07:41

that's a clumsy way really of saying the 00:07:45

that's a clumsy way really of saying the same thing because so long as you are 00:07:45

same thing because so long as you are 00:07:50

same thing because so long as you are trying or not trying you are aggravating 00:07:50

trying or not trying you are aggravating 00:07:55

trying or not trying you are aggravating the sensation of the separate ego now 00:07:55

the sensation of the separate ego now 00:08:01

the sensation of the separate ego now that in itself you see as I talk about 00:08:01

that in itself you see as I talk about 00:08:05

that in itself you see as I talk about it presents a certain difficulty or one 00:08:05

it presents a certain difficulty or one 00:08:10

it presents a certain difficulty or one thinks it's difficult there would be a 00:08:10

thinks it's difficult there would be a 00:08:13

thinks it's difficult there would be a second difficulty if we would go on and 00:08:13

second difficulty if we would go on and 00:08:16

second difficulty if we would go on and say it isn't only the illusion of the 00:08:16

say it isn't only the illusion of the 00:08:21

say it isn't only the illusion of the ego but the whole valuation system that 00:08:21

ego but the whole valuation system that 00:08:26

ego but the whole valuation system that we put on the complexity of vibrations 00:08:26

we put on the complexity of vibrations 00:08:28

we put on the complexity of vibrations we call awareness of life all the 00:08:28

we call awareness of life all the 00:08:31

we call awareness of life all the various valuations that are put on this 00:08:31

various valuations that are put on this 00:08:34

various valuations that are put on this by the social game are Maya that is to 00:08:34

by the social game are Maya that is to 00:08:38

by the social game are Maya that is to say they are illusory basically because 00:08:38

say they are illusory basically because 00:08:42

say they are illusory basically because it's only in play as it were that we say 00:08:42

it's only in play as it were that we say 00:08:46

it's only in play as it were that we say this is good and this is bad this is 00:08:46

this is good and this is bad this is 00:08:47

this is good and this is bad this is advantageous this is dis advantageous 00:08:47

advantageous this is dis advantageous 00:08:49

advantageous this is dis advantageous and so we would go on to say after this 00:08:49

and so we would go on to say after this 00:08:54

and so we would go on to say after this but I cannot imagine anything more 00:08:54

but I cannot imagine anything more 00:08:56

but I cannot imagine anything more difficult than overcoming that hypnosis 00:08:56

difficult than overcoming that hypnosis 00:09:00

difficult than overcoming that hypnosis I am so enchanted by this system that 00:09:00

I am so enchanted by this system that 00:09:08

I am so enchanted by this system that the idea of treating it as not really 00:09:08

the idea of treating it as not really 00:09:10

the idea of treating it as not really very serious seems to me unthinkable of 00:09:10

very serious seems to me unthinkable of 00:09:16

very serious seems to me unthinkable of course you have to think that it's like 00:09:16

course you have to think that it's like 00:09:22

course you have to think that it's like a hypnotist working on somebody and 00:09:22

a hypnotist working on somebody and 00:09:24

a hypnotist working on somebody and saying you are not going to remember any 00:09:24

saying you are not going to remember any 00:09:27

saying you are not going to remember any of this conversation after you come to 00:09:27

of this conversation after you come to 00:09:31

of this conversation after you come to and so he's put the suggestion into you 00:09:31

and so he's put the suggestion into you 00:09:35

and so he's put the suggestion into you that you forget the whole thing so in 00:09:35

that you forget the whole thing so in 00:09:37

that you forget the whole thing so in the same way the suggestion has been put 00:09:37

the same way the suggestion has been put 00:09:39

the same way the suggestion has been put in to all of us that these rules that we 00:09:39

in to all of us that these rules that we 00:09:44

in to all of us that these rules that we have learned are sacrosanct 00:09:44

have learned are sacrosanct 00:09:47

have learned are sacrosanct and that we 00:09:47

and that we 00:09:50

and that we they don't say you will not be able to 00:09:50

they don't say you will not be able to 00:09:53

they don't say you will not be able to think otherwise they say they are true 00:09:53

think otherwise they say they are true 00:09:55

think otherwise they say they are true they are the truth 00:09:55

they are the truth 00:09:57

they are the truth you see and that is the same function as 00:09:57

you see and that is the same function as 00:10:01

you see and that is the same function as the hypnotic suggestion put into us ever 00:10:01

the hypnotic suggestion put into us ever 00:10:04

the hypnotic suggestion put into us ever since we were receptive children so 00:10:04

since we were receptive children so 00:10:15

since we were receptive children so naturally it's all part of the 00:10:15

naturally it's all part of the 00:10:17

naturally it's all part of the conspiracy which we are playing on 00:10:17

conspiracy which we are playing on 00:10:20

conspiracy which we are playing on ourselves we can't blame our parents for 00:10:20

ourselves we can't blame our parents for 00:10:22

ourselves we can't blame our parents for this because their parents played it on 00:10:22

this because their parents played it on 00:10:24

this because their parents played it on them and they bought it and don't forget 00:10:24

them and they bought it and don't forget 00:10:28

them and they bought it and don't forget the time goes backwards you see you 00:10:28

the time goes backwards you see you 00:10:33

the time goes backwards you see you can't blame this on the past because now 00:10:33

can't blame this on the past because now 00:10:36

can't blame this on the past because now in the present you are creating the 00:10:36

in the present you are creating the 00:10:38

in the present you are creating the value of the values of the past and you 00:10:38

value of the values of the past and you 00:10:41

value of the values of the past and you are buying them all along see so there's 00:10:41

are buying them all along see so there's 00:10:43

are buying them all along see so there's no no out on this do you see in a way 00:10:43

no no out on this do you see in a way 00:10:46

no no out on this do you see in a way psychoanalytically what is given an out 00:10:46

psychoanalytically what is given an out 00:10:49

psychoanalytically what is given an out by saying well the parents didn't bring 00:10:49

by saying well the parents didn't bring 00:10:52

by saying well the parents didn't bring up their children properly and American 00:10:52

up their children properly and American 00:10:54

up their children properly and American people are consumed with guilt about the 00:10:54

people are consumed with guilt about the 00:10:57

people are consumed with guilt about the way they did they bring up their 00:10:57

way they did they bring up their 00:10:58

way they did they bring up their children so we must abandon completely 00:10:58

children so we must abandon completely 00:11:02

children so we must abandon completely the notion of blaming the past for any 00:11:02

the notion of blaming the past for any 00:11:06

the notion of blaming the past for any kind of situation we're in and reverse 00:11:06

kind of situation we're in and reverse 00:11:11

kind of situation we're in and reverse our thinking and see that the past 00:11:11

our thinking and see that the past 00:11:13

our thinking and see that the past always flows back from the present that 00:11:13

always flows back from the present that 00:11:15

always flows back from the present that now is the creative point of life and so 00:11:15

now is the creative point of life and so 00:11:22

now is the creative point of life and so you see it's it's like the idea of 00:11:22

you see it's it's like the idea of 00:11:24

you see it's it's like the idea of forgiving somebody you change the 00:11:24

forgiving somebody you change the 00:11:29

forgiving somebody you change the meaning of the past by doing that it's 00:11:29

meaning of the past by doing that it's 00:11:33

meaning of the past by doing that it's like also the when you watch the flow of 00:11:33

like also the when you watch the flow of 00:11:36

like also the when you watch the flow of music the melody as it is expressed is 00:11:36

music the melody as it is expressed is 00:11:47

music the melody as it is expressed is changed by notes that come later 00:11:47

changed by notes that come later 00:11:54

changed by notes that come later just as the meaning of a sentence 00:11:54

just as the meaning of a sentence 00:11:56

just as the meaning of a sentence especially say take German or Latin 00:11:56

especially say take German or Latin 00:11:59

especially say take German or Latin weathers the convention of placing a 00:11:59

weathers the convention of placing a 00:12:01

weathers the convention of placing a verb at the end of a sentence 00:12:01

verb at the end of a sentence 00:12:03

verb at the end of a sentence you wait in other words till later to 00:12:03

you wait in other words till later to 00:12:06

you wait in other words till later to find out what the sentence means 00:12:06

find out what the sentence means 00:12:08

find out what the sentence means according to our way of feeling it so it 00:12:08

according to our way of feeling it so it 00:12:13

according to our way of feeling it so it is also in our language if I say I love 00:12:13

is also in our language if I say I love 00:12:16

is also in our language if I say I love you you don't know when I've said I what 00:12:16

you you don't know when I've said I what 00:12:23

you you don't know when I've said I what I is doing I could say I hate you so we 00:12:23

I is doing I could say I hate you so we 00:12:32

I is doing I could say I hate you so we don't know until later so in other words 00:12:32

don't know until later so in other words 00:12:35

don't know until later so in other words the word love or the word hate changes 00:12:35

the word love or the word hate changes 00:12:37

the word love or the word hate changes the function of the word I and then I 00:12:38

the function of the word I and then I 00:12:42

the function of the word I and then I was good to say I love flowers 00:12:42

was good to say I love flowers 00:12:46

was good to say I love flowers and oh but I love you to see and said 00:12:46

and oh but I love you to see and said 00:12:48

and oh but I love you to see and said the word later changes the meaning of 00:12:48

the word later changes the meaning of 00:12:50

the word later changes the meaning of those that go before the present is 00:12:50

those that go before the present is 00:12:53

those that go before the present is always changing the past so when you get 00:12:53

always changing the past so when you get 00:13:01

always changing the past so when you get the idea in your mind that the point of 00:13:01

the idea in your mind that the point of 00:13:06

the idea in your mind that the point of view I'm talking about is very difficult 00:13:06

view I'm talking about is very difficult 00:13:09

view I'm talking about is very difficult indeed to acquire that idea is one you 00:13:09

indeed to acquire that idea is one you 00:13:20

indeed to acquire that idea is one you are putting there to stop yourself 00:13:20

are putting there to stop yourself 00:13:25

are putting there to stop yourself seeing the other point of view and above 00:13:25

seeing the other point of view and above 00:13:29

seeing the other point of view and above all you must not take that seriously 00:13:29

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it is simply a method of postponing 00:13:35

it is simply a method of postponing 00:13:39

it is simply a method of postponing seeing the point now so you have to see 00:13:39

seeing the point now so you have to see 00:13:45

seeing the point now so you have to see it now or never because there is only 00:13:45

it now or never because there is only 00:13:47

it now or never because there is only now if you say well tomorrow the next 00:13:47

now if you say well tomorrow the next 00:13:52

now if you say well tomorrow the next day maybe in another dozen lifetimes 00:13:52

day maybe in another dozen lifetimes 00:13:54

day maybe in another dozen lifetimes I'll be ready that means simply and 00:13:54

I'll be ready that means simply and 00:13:58

I'll be ready that means simply and solely I don't want to be bothered with 00:13:58

solely I don't want to be bothered with 00:14:00

solely I don't want to be bothered with it now I'm even not interested in it now 00:14:00

it now I'm even not interested in it now 00:14:04

it now I'm even not interested in it now so I've got an excuse for putting it off 00:14:04

so I've got an excuse for putting it off 00:14:08

so I've got an excuse for putting it off which is fine that's perfectly okay you 00:14:08

which is fine that's perfectly okay you 00:14:13

which is fine that's perfectly okay you can put it off 00:14:13

can put it off 00:14:13

can put it off there is no reason there is no 00:14:13

there is no reason there is no 00:14:15

there is no reason there is no compulsion 00:14:15

compulsion 00:14:16

compulsion why you should come out of this illusion 00:14:16

why you should come out of this illusion 00:14:19

why you should come out of this illusion that's why oriental people do not tend 00:14:19

that's why oriental people do not tend 00:14:24

that's why oriental people do not tend in the same way as Westerners to be 00:14:24

in the same way as Westerners to be 00:14:26

in the same way as Westerners to be missionaries and saying it's very urgent 00:14:26

missionaries and saying it's very urgent 00:14:30

missionaries and saying it's very urgent that you be saved 00:14:30

that you be saved 00:14:33

that you be saved it isn't unless you say so 00:14:33

it isn't unless you say so 00:14:36

it isn't unless you say so I mean unless you are so disturbed by 00:14:36

I mean unless you are so disturbed by 00:14:39

I mean unless you are so disturbed by the suffering and the problem of 00:14:39

the suffering and the problem of 00:14:41

the suffering and the problem of suffering that you've gotta find some 00:14:41

suffering that you've gotta find some 00:14:43

suffering that you've gotta find some sort of escape but if you don't want to 00:14:43

sort of escape but if you don't want to 00:14:49

sort of escape but if you don't want to you can state it it's okay there's lots 00:14:49

you can state it it's okay there's lots 00:14:51

you can state it it's okay there's lots of time and maybe you'll see through it 00:14:51

of time and maybe you'll see through it 00:14:56

of time and maybe you'll see through it when you die at least in the moment of 00:14:56

when you die at least in the moment of 00:15:00

when you die at least in the moment of death you will see that it was all a 00:15:00

death you will see that it was all a 00:15:03

death you will see that it was all a fake 00:15:03

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so don't be scared about the idea of the 00:15:08

so don't be scared about the idea of the 00:15:14

so don't be scared about the idea of the difficulty of it that's a red herring 00:15:14

difficulty of it that's a red herring 00:15:17

difficulty of it that's a red herring and it's quite irrelevant and I don't 00:15:17

and it's quite irrelevant and I don't 00:15:19

and it's quite irrelevant and I don't think that teachers should talk quite so 00:15:19

think that teachers should talk quite so 00:15:23

think that teachers should talk quite so much about this as they do and saying oh 00:15:23

much about this as they do and saying oh 00:15:27

much about this as they do and saying oh this is going to take a long long time 00:15:27

this is going to take a long long time 00:15:30

this is going to take a long long time and a lot of practice in many years 00:15:30

and a lot of practice in many years 00:15:32

and a lot of practice in many years maybe it will maybe it won't but that's 00:15:32

maybe it will maybe it won't but that's 00:15:37

maybe it will maybe it won't but that's beside the point 00:15:37

beside the point 00:15:40

beside the point because it distracts it's like telling 00:15:40

because it distracts it's like telling 00:15:42

because it distracts it's like telling somebody that this is a very difficult 00:15:42

somebody that this is a very difficult 00:15:44

somebody that this is a very difficult book to read and it requires immense 00:15:44

book to read and it requires immense 00:15:47

book to read and it requires immense powers of concentration 00:15:47

powers of concentration 00:15:48

powers of concentration well that immediately kills your 00:15:48

well that immediately kills your 00:15:50

well that immediately kills your interest in it instead of if I would say 00:15:50

interest in it instead of if I would say 00:15:54

interest in it instead of if I would say well this is a bird most extraordinary 00:15:54

well this is a bird most extraordinary 00:15:56

well this is a bird most extraordinary book this is so fascinating I've been 00:15:56

book this is so fascinating I've been 00:15:58

book this is so fascinating I've been working on it for years and every time I 00:15:58

working on it for years and every time I 00:16:01

working on it for years and every time I do I get I just get so involved I can't 00:16:01

do I get I just get so involved I can't 00:16:03

do I get I just get so involved I can't drop the thing no I mean that's a far 00:16:03

drop the thing no I mean that's a far 00:16:06

drop the thing no I mean that's a far more encouraging attitude to a student 00:16:06

more encouraging attitude to a student 00:16:08

more encouraging attitude to a student than was very very difficult except a 00:16:08

than was very very difficult except a 00:16:12

than was very very difficult except a very very self-hating students who 00:16:12

very very self-hating students who 00:16:16

very very self-hating students who somehow perversely enjoy suffering 00:16:16

somehow perversely enjoy suffering 00:16:20

somehow perversely enjoy suffering through it I suppose that's of course a 00:16:20

through it I suppose that's of course a 00:16:24

through it I suppose that's of course a way to but 00:16:24

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all right now if we can see the first 00:16:30

all right now if we can see the first 00:16:36

all right now if we can see the first part which is that the ego is purely 00:16:36

part which is that the ego is purely 00:16:42

part which is that the ego is purely fictitious that it is a symbol or image 00:16:42

fictitious that it is a symbol or image 00:16:48

fictitious that it is a symbol or image of oneself plus a sensation of muscular 00:16:48

of oneself plus a sensation of muscular 00:16:51

of oneself plus a sensation of muscular strain occasioned by trying to make this 00:16:51

strain occasioned by trying to make this 00:16:54

strain occasioned by trying to make this symbol an effective agent to control 00:16:54

symbol an effective agent to control 00:16:59

symbol an effective agent to control emotion to concentrate to direct the 00:16:59

emotion to concentrate to direct the 00:17:04

emotion to concentrate to direct the nervous operations of the organism then 00:17:04

nervous operations of the organism then 00:17:09

nervous operations of the organism then immediately it is clear that what we 00:17:09

immediately it is clear that what we 00:17:12

immediately it is clear that what we have called ourselves what we have 00:17:12

have called ourselves what we have 00:17:15

have called ourselves what we have thought of as ourselves isn't able to do 00:17:15

thought of as ourselves isn't able to do 00:17:17

thought of as ourselves isn't able to do anything at all 00:17:17

anything at all 00:17:18

anything at all there are follows this kind of silence 00:17:18

there are follows this kind of silence 00:17:22

there are follows this kind of silence in which there is nothing to do except 00:17:22

in which there is nothing to do except 00:17:26

in which there is nothing to do except watch what happens but what is happening 00:17:26

watch what happens but what is happening 00:17:29

watch what happens but what is happening is watching itself there is nobody apart 00:17:29

is watching itself there is nobody apart 00:17:32

is watching itself there is nobody apart from it watching it and so we get into 00:17:32

from it watching it and so we get into 00:17:37

from it watching it and so we get into the state of meditation or as I prefer 00:17:37

the state of meditation or as I prefer 00:17:39

the state of meditation or as I prefer to call it contemplation so then the 00:17:39

to call it contemplation so then the 00:17:44

to call it contemplation so then the next problem that arises is well what 00:17:44

next problem that arises is well what 00:17:48

next problem that arises is well what about all the other illusions although 00:17:48

about all the other illusions although 00:17:52

about all the other illusions although they are somehow integrated and centred 00:17:52

they are somehow integrated and centred 00:17:54

they are somehow integrated and centred upon the illusion of ego nevertheless 00:17:54

upon the illusion of ego nevertheless 00:17:57

upon the illusion of ego nevertheless the whole value system of what is 00:17:57

the whole value system of what is 00:18:03

the whole value system of what is important what is not important what is 00:18:03

important what is not important what is 00:18:06

important what is not important what is good what is bad what is pleasant what 00:18:06

good what is bad what is pleasant what 00:18:07

good what is bad what is pleasant what is painful has to be called in question 00:18:07

is painful has to be called in question 00:18:11

is painful has to be called in question not in order to destroy the whole value 00:18:11

not in order to destroy the whole value 00:18:14

not in order to destroy the whole value system but in order to see it for what 00:18:14

system but in order to see it for what 00:18:17

system but in order to see it for what it is and that's where we will object 00:18:17

it is and that's where we will object 00:18:24

it is and that's where we will object and say well surely that's a colossal a 00:18:24

and say well surely that's a colossal a 00:18:26

and say well surely that's a colossal a difficult task because we are so long 00:18:26

difficult task because we are so long 00:18:29

difficult task because we are so long habituated to it and we have been taught 00:18:29

habituated to it and we have been taught 00:18:32

habituated to it and we have been taught to believe that the longer we have been 00:18:32

to believe that the longer we have been 00:18:34

to believe that the longer we have been habituated to something the more 00:18:34

habituated to something the more 00:18:35

habituated to something the more difficult it is to change it and that is 00:18:35

difficult it is to change it and that is 00:18:39

difficult it is to change it and that is true if you believe it and if you don't 00:18:39

true if you believe it and if you don't 00:18:41

true if you believe it and if you don't it isn't 00:18:41

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now that's why it's always emphasized at 00:18:44

now that's why it's always emphasized at 00:18:49

now that's why it's always emphasized at any rate in Zen that when anything is to 00:18:49

any rate in Zen that when anything is to 00:18:52

any rate in Zen that when anything is to be done it should be done immediately 00:18:52

be done it should be done immediately 00:18:54

be done it should be done immediately without thinking it over in advance act 00:18:54

without thinking it over in advance act 00:18:57

without thinking it over in advance act at once and you'll find that 00:18:57

at once and you'll find that 00:19:00

at once and you'll find that characteristic of people trained in Zen 00:19:00

characteristic of people trained in Zen 00:19:02

characteristic of people trained in Zen they always act immediately they don't 00:19:02

they always act immediately they don't 00:19:04

they always act immediately they don't say well I'm mm well when should we do 00:19:04

say well I'm mm well when should we do 00:19:08

say well I'm mm well when should we do this sort of thing they just do it 00:19:08

this sort of thing they just do it 00:19:10

this sort of thing they just do it because that doesn't build up it gives 00:19:10

because that doesn't build up it gives 00:19:13

because that doesn't build up it gives no time for the building up of all this 00:19:13

no time for the building up of all this 00:19:15

no time for the building up of all this reflection of well I've done this way 00:19:15

reflection of well I've done this way 00:19:18

reflection of well I've done this way for a long time and I really feel kind 00:19:18

for a long time and I really feel kind 00:19:20

for a long time and I really feel kind of draggy about doing it another way I 00:19:20

of draggy about doing it another way I 00:19:23

of draggy about doing it another way I mean it's like some people eat the same 00:19:23

mean it's like some people eat the same 00:19:25

mean it's like some people eat the same thing every day the idea of suddenly 00:19:25

thing every day the idea of suddenly 00:19:27

thing every day the idea of suddenly eating something else seems absolutely 00:19:27

eating something else seems absolutely 00:19:29

eating something else seems absolutely weird I remember when I used to have 00:19:29

weird I remember when I used to have 00:19:34

weird I remember when I used to have lunch in London in the city of London I 00:19:34

lunch in London in the city of London I 00:19:36

lunch in London in the city of London I used to go to there a rather fancy 00:19:36

used to go to there a rather fancy 00:19:39

used to go to there a rather fancy sandwich bar and there was a very square 00:19:39

sandwich bar and there was a very square 00:19:43

sandwich bar and there was a very square young man in a derby hat who ordered 00:19:43

young man in a derby hat who ordered 00:19:47

young man in a derby hat who ordered exactly the same lunch 00:19:47

exactly the same lunch 00:19:48

exactly the same lunch every day and so it came that the man 00:19:48

every day and so it came that the man 00:19:56

every day and so it came that the man who served the bar the moment he saw him 00:19:56

who served the bar the moment he saw him 00:19:58

who served the bar the moment he saw him coming in at the door he had it there 00:19:58

coming in at the door he had it there 00:20:01

coming in at the door he had it there and he would have had a real qualms if 00:20:01

and he would have had a real qualms if 00:20:04

and he would have had a real qualms if somebody had suggested that instead of 00:20:04

somebody had suggested that instead of 00:20:06

somebody had suggested that instead of having a beef sandwich he should have a 00:20:06

having a beef sandwich he should have a 00:20:08

having a beef sandwich he should have a smoked salmon now then we get to this 00:20:08

smoked salmon now then we get to this 00:20:21

smoked salmon now then we get to this what we are aware of is a complex of 00:20:21

what we are aware of is a complex of 00:20:26

what we are aware of is a complex of vibrations and we have been conditioned 00:20:26

vibrations and we have been conditioned 00:20:32

vibrations and we have been conditioned to call them graduated ly good bad 00:20:32

to call them graduated ly good bad 00:20:37

to call them graduated ly good bad Pleasant painful 00:20:37

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whereas as a matter of fact they are 00:20:42

whereas as a matter of fact they are 00:20:44

whereas as a matter of fact they are nothing but vibrations and if you look 00:20:44

nothing but vibrations and if you look 00:20:52

nothing but vibrations and if you look at any one of them by itself you won't 00:20:52

at any one of them by itself you won't 00:20:55

at any one of them by itself you won't know where it is that is to say if you 00:20:55

know where it is that is to say if you 00:21:01

know where it is that is to say if you only know red you can't see that it's 00:21:01

only know red you can't see that it's 00:21:05

only know red you can't see that it's red you can only know that this is red 00:21:05

red you can only know that this is red 00:21:07

red you can only know that this is red by contrast with yellow and green and 00:21:07

by contrast with yellow and green and 00:21:10

by contrast with yellow and green and blue and violet so you don't know that 00:21:10

blue and violet so you don't know that 00:21:16

blue and violet so you don't know that the sound is loud unless you know soft 00:21:16

the sound is loud unless you know soft 00:21:18

the sound is loud unless you know soft sounds or you don't know that it's soft 00:21:18

sounds or you don't know that it's soft 00:21:20

sounds or you don't know that it's soft unless you know loud and it is that 00:21:20

unless you know loud and it is that 00:21:28

unless you know loud and it is that comparison which gives us the feeling of 00:21:28

comparison which gives us the feeling of 00:21:32

comparison which gives us the feeling of the spectrum as being varied otherwise 00:21:32

the spectrum as being varied otherwise 00:21:38

the spectrum as being varied otherwise we wouldn't know for example when you 00:21:38

we wouldn't know for example when you 00:21:41

we wouldn't know for example when you watch television you are actually seeing 00:21:41

watch television you are actually seeing 00:21:44

watch television you are actually seeing a single moving point moving over the 00:21:44

a single moving point moving over the 00:21:50

a single moving point moving over the screen but it goes so fast that you see 00:21:50

screen but it goes so fast that you see 00:21:56

screen but it goes so fast that you see it in all these different places having 00:21:56

it in all these different places having 00:21:58

it in all these different places having different values of light but let us 00:21:58

different values of light but let us 00:22:01

different values of light but let us supposing there was someone whose retina 00:22:01

supposing there was someone whose retina 00:22:03

supposing there was someone whose retina was not retentive in this way he would 00:22:03

was not retentive in this way he would 00:22:07

was not retentive in this way he would look at the screen and see the moving 00:22:07

look at the screen and see the moving 00:22:08

look at the screen and see the moving point of light and say to human beings I 00:22:08

point of light and say to human beings I 00:22:10

point of light and say to human beings I don't see what you see in this now can 00:22:10

don't see what you see in this now can 00:22:18

don't see what you see in this now can we therefore get back not only to the 00:22:18

we therefore get back not only to the 00:22:23

we therefore get back not only to the situation where we see that the ego is a 00:22:23

situation where we see that the ego is a 00:22:28

situation where we see that the ego is a mere construct but also where we see 00:22:28

mere construct but also where we see 00:22:33

mere construct but also where we see that all the values we put on the 00:22:33

that all the values we put on the 00:22:37

that all the values we put on the vibrations are arbitrary and that we get 00:22:37

vibrations are arbitrary and that we get 00:22:43

vibrations are arbitrary and that we get to a position where we see the vibration 00:22:43

to a position where we see the vibration 00:22:46

to a position where we see the vibration simply as the vibrations and we would 00:22:46

simply as the vibrations and we would 00:22:50

simply as the vibrations and we would say that well surely all this is 00:22:50

say that well surely all this is 00:22:51

say that well surely all this is nonsense which is correct 00:22:51

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the universe I mean is a kind of Voodoo 00:22:57

the universe I mean is a kind of Voodoo 00:23:01

the universe I mean is a kind of Voodoo dduba dduba dduba dduba doo deee daaah 00:23:01

dduba dduba dduba dduba doo deee daaah 00:23:04

dduba dduba dduba dduba doo deee daaah and going on in this fantastic way this 00:23:04

and going on in this fantastic way this 00:23:11

and going on in this fantastic way this is why music can be used as a meditative 00:23:11

is why music can be used as a meditative 00:23:16

is why music can be used as a meditative technique because a lot of music is in 00:23:16

technique because a lot of music is in 00:23:22

technique because a lot of music is in this is nonsense it doesn't mean 00:23:22

this is nonsense it doesn't mean 00:23:25

this is nonsense it doesn't mean anything 00:23:25

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but it can be very interesting so can 00:23:28

but it can be very interesting so can 00:23:34

but it can be very interesting so can you get back again to recollecting from 00:23:34

you get back again to recollecting from 00:23:37

you get back again to recollecting from childhood your pleasure in events that 00:23:37

childhood your pleasure in events that 00:23:44

childhood your pleasure in events that from your present point of view you 00:23:44

from your present point of view you 00:23:46

from your present point of view you would call entirely meaningless that you 00:23:46

would call entirely meaningless that you 00:23:52

would call entirely meaningless that you could listen to a sound like twanging 00:23:53

could listen to a sound like twanging 00:23:59

could listen to a sound like twanging metal and it goes Boeing Boeing Boeing 00:23:59

metal and it goes Boeing Boeing Boeing 00:24:03

metal and it goes Boeing Boeing Boeing Boeing and that's fascinating 00:24:03

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Boeing it's this Boeing and that's 00:24:07

Boeing it's this Boeing and that's 00:24:13

Boeing it's this Boeing and that's that's all it is 00:24:13

that's all it is 00:24:15

that's all it is see now if you can really get with 00:24:15

see now if you can really get with 00:24:20

see now if you can really get with Boeing you can see the whole universe in 00:24:20

Boeing you can see the whole universe in 00:24:26

Boeing you can see the whole universe in Boeing really because every vibration 00:24:26

Boeing really because every vibration 00:24:32

Boeing really because every vibration that's possible implies all the others 00:24:32

that's possible implies all the others 00:24:35

that's possible implies all the others and so likewise with the candle flame 00:24:35

and so likewise with the candle flame 00:24:40

and so likewise with the candle flame with the reflection with grain in wood 00:24:40

with the reflection with grain in wood 00:24:45

with the reflection with grain in wood anything can from this child's point of 00:24:45

anything can from this child's point of 00:24:51

anything can from this child's point of view be completely fascinating not 00:24:51

view be completely fascinating not 00:24:54

view be completely fascinating not because it means anything but just for 00:24:54

because it means anything but just for 00:24:56

because it means anything but just for what it is that it is shaped so 00:24:56

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there was a joke in punch some time ago 00:25:07

there was a joke in punch some time ago 00:25:10

there was a joke in punch some time ago many years ago I remember a visit of an 00:25:10

many years ago I remember a visit of an 00:25:12

many years ago I remember a visit of an army doctor interviewing a private and 00:25:12

army doctor interviewing a private and 00:25:18

army doctor interviewing a private and the private says every time I shake my 00:25:18

the private says every time I shake my 00:25:21

the private says every time I shake my leg like this it hurts he said god 00:25:21

leg like this it hurts he said god 00:25:24

leg like this it hurts he said god dammit don't shake it but you know when 00:25:24

dammit don't shake it but you know when 00:25:31

dammit don't shake it but you know when one has something that hurts 00:25:31

one has something that hurts 00:25:33

one has something that hurts there's a subtle temptation to keep 00:25:33

there's a subtle temptation to keep 00:25:35

there's a subtle temptation to keep worrying it like if you have a filling 00:25:35

worrying it like if you have a filling 00:25:38

worrying it like if you have a filling out of a tooth your tongue plays with 00:25:38

out of a tooth your tongue plays with 00:25:41

out of a tooth your tongue plays with the empty hole and children will 00:25:41

the empty hole and children will 00:25:46

the empty hole and children will experiment with pain in this way it's 00:25:46

experiment with pain in this way it's 00:25:51

experiment with pain in this way it's like a dare children are always playing 00:25:51

like a dare children are always playing 00:25:56

like a dare children are always playing the game of daring each other to do 00:25:56

the game of daring each other to do 00:25:58

the game of daring each other to do something forbidden because the risk of 00:25:58

something forbidden because the risk of 00:26:01

something forbidden because the risk of disapproval involved the calamity that 00:26:01

disapproval involved the calamity that 00:26:04

disapproval involved the calamity that may follow from it it makes it so 00:26:04

may follow from it it makes it so 00:26:05

may follow from it it makes it so exciting and why on earth do people 00:26:05

exciting and why on earth do people 00:26:13

exciting and why on earth do people challenge disaster the way they do doing 00:26:13

challenge disaster the way they do doing 00:26:16

challenge disaster the way they do doing all sorts of wildly adventurous things 00:26:16

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because obviously that gives a tasty 00:26:21

because obviously that gives a tasty 00:26:24

because obviously that gives a tasty quality to a vibration that is extremely 00:26:24

quality to a vibration that is extremely 00:26:27

quality to a vibration that is extremely interesting why the craving for speed so 00:26:27

interesting why the craving for speed so 00:26:33

interesting why the craving for speed so on and it's only if you look very 00:26:33

on and it's only if you look very 00:26:41

on and it's only if you look very carefully at a vibration yet you can see 00:26:41

carefully at a vibration yet you can see 00:26:44

carefully at a vibration yet you can see this point 00:26:44

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that's why meditative exercises often 00:26:46

that's why meditative exercises often 00:26:50

that's why meditative exercises often involve a repetition process oh or 00:26:50

involve a repetition process oh or 00:26:57

involve a repetition process oh or saying a phrase or doing an act like a 00:26:57

saying a phrase or doing an act like a 00:27:02

saying a phrase or doing an act like a mudra over and over and over again after 00:27:02

mudra over and over and over again after 00:27:07

mudra over and over and over again after a while it becomes meaningless you could 00:27:07

a while it becomes meaningless you could 00:27:09

a while it becomes meaningless you could say your own name like the Sufis do and 00:27:09

say your own name like the Sufis do and 00:27:12

say your own name like the Sufis do and go on and on and on 00:27:12

go on and on and on 00:27:15

go on and on and on and finally it doesn't mean anything at 00:27:15

and finally it doesn't mean anything at 00:27:17

and finally it doesn't mean anything at all is just the noise but it isn't just 00:27:17

all is just the noise but it isn't just 00:27:21

all is just the noise but it isn't just annoys you see the attitude of saying 00:27:21

annoys you see the attitude of saying 00:27:24

annoys you see the attitude of saying that something is just a noise or just a 00:27:24

that something is just a noise or just a 00:27:27

that something is just a noise or just a wiggle is an adult attitude no wiggle to 00:27:27

wiggle is an adult attitude no wiggle to 00:27:32

wiggle is an adult attitude no wiggle to the child is just a wiggle to the child 00:27:32

the child is just a wiggle to the child 00:27:36

the child is just a wiggle to the child the elemental thing going on is yeah you 00:27:36

the elemental thing going on is yeah you 00:27:42

the elemental thing going on is yeah you know I mean it's just fantastic now do 00:27:42

know I mean it's just fantastic now do 00:27:50

know I mean it's just fantastic now do you see why this is what Mystics call 00:27:50

you see why this is what Mystics call 00:27:53

you see why this is what Mystics call ineffable that is to say you can't 00:27:53

ineffable that is to say you can't 00:27:57

ineffable that is to say you can't really talk about when I try to explain 00:27:57

really talk about when I try to explain 00:28:03

really talk about when I try to explain what I mean by digging a sound I 00:28:03

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suddenly realize that I'm not really 00:28:11

suddenly realize that I'm not really 00:28:14

suddenly realize that I'm not really saying anything and yet there are states 00:28:14

saying anything and yet there are states 00:28:20

saying anything and yet there are states of consciousness in which you can listen 00:28:20

of consciousness in which you can listen 00:28:23

of consciousness in which you can listen to sound and realize that that is the 00:28:23

to sound and realize that that is the 00:28:28

to sound and realize that that is the whole point of being alive just to go 00:28:28

whole point of being alive just to go 00:28:33

whole point of being alive just to go with this particular energy 00:28:33

with this particular energy 00:28:35

with this particular energy manifestation that is happening right at 00:28:35

manifestation that is happening right at 00:28:38

manifestation that is happening right at this moment to be it the whole world is 00:28:38

this moment to be it the whole world is 00:28:45

this moment to be it the whole world is the energy playing at doing all this see 00:28:45

the energy playing at doing all this see 00:28:52

the energy playing at doing all this see like a kaleidoscope jazzing 00:28:52

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so if you watch that and watch it that 00:29:02

so if you watch that and watch it that 00:29:08

so if you watch that and watch it that way you will be accused of course by 00:29:08

way you will be accused of course by 00:29:14

way you will be accused of course by those who are guardians of the game are 00:29:14

those who are guardians of the game are 00:29:17

those who are guardians of the game are doing something very dangerous they are 00:29:17

doing something very dangerous they are 00:29:19

doing something very dangerous they are going completely crazy I mean the number 00:29:19

going completely crazy I mean the number 00:29:24

going completely crazy I mean the number of theological texts I've read which 00:29:24

of theological texts I've read which 00:29:28

of theological texts I've read which express in one way or another this 00:29:28

express in one way or another this 00:29:30

express in one way or another this horror of everything becoming 00:29:30

horror of everything becoming 00:29:33

horror of everything becoming meaningless the meaningless life tale 00:29:33

meaningless the meaningless life tale 00:29:37

meaningless the meaningless life tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury 00:29:37

told by an idiot full of sound and fury 00:29:39

told by an idiot full of sound and fury signifying nothing 00:29:39

00:29:42

those people you see have not dared to 00:29:42

those people you see have not dared to 00:29:47

those people you see have not dared to look at it now there's another way of 00:29:47

look at it now there's another way of 00:29:49

look at it now there's another way of looking at it of course we're in states 00:29:49

looking at it of course we're in states 00:29:55

looking at it of course we're in states of acute depression people see it all as 00:29:55

of acute depression people see it all as 00:30:01

of acute depression people see it all as meaningless but not really meaningless 00:30:01

meaningless but not really meaningless 00:30:03

meaningless but not really meaningless they see it all as a conspiracy of 00:30:03

they see it all as a conspiracy of 00:30:06

they see it all as a conspiracy of horror let's imagine that everything is 00:30:06

horror let's imagine that everything is 00:30:15

horror let's imagine that everything is mechanical there are no living beings at 00:30:15

mechanical there are no living beings at 00:30:19

mechanical there are no living beings at all there are a lot of beings that are 00:30:19

all there are a lot of beings that are 00:30:21

all there are a lot of beings that are such good computers that you can't tell 00:30:21

such good computers that you can't tell 00:30:23

such good computers that you can't tell the difference between them and what you 00:30:23

the difference between them and what you 00:30:26

the difference between them and what you thought were people but everything going 00:30:26

thought were people but everything going 00:30:30

thought were people but everything going on is simply clockwork and there's 00:30:30

on is simply clockwork and there's 00:30:35

on is simply clockwork and there's nobody home although it puts on a 00:30:35

nobody home although it puts on a 00:30:38

nobody home although it puts on a convincing show that there is so you get 00:30:38

convincing show that there is so you get 00:30:42

convincing show that there is so you get the feeling that the entire world is 00:30:42

the feeling that the entire world is 00:30:44

the feeling that the entire world is enameled tin or patent leather or 00:30:44

enameled tin or patent leather or 00:30:49

enameled tin or patent leather or plastic and tasteless Hollow vulgar like 00:30:49

plastic and tasteless Hollow vulgar like 00:31:00

plastic and tasteless Hollow vulgar like a Wurlitzer jukebox 00:31:00

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that's a very common feeling of people 00:31:09

that's a very common feeling of people 00:31:12

that's a very common feeling of people who get into acute depression but you'll 00:31:12

who get into acute depression but you'll 00:31:18

who get into acute depression but you'll see there is still here evaluation you 00:31:18

see there is still here evaluation you 00:31:27

see there is still here evaluation you are associating the world with the 00:31:27

are associating the world with the 00:31:33

are associating the world with the mechanical is distinct from the organic 00:31:33

mechanical is distinct from the organic 00:31:36

mechanical is distinct from the organic and we have a tendency you see to put 00:31:36

and we have a tendency you see to put 00:31:40

and we have a tendency you see to put down a mechanical because obviously a 00:31:40

down a mechanical because obviously a 00:31:42

down a mechanical because obviously a plastic flower doesn't have the center 00:31:42

plastic flower doesn't have the center 00:31:46

plastic flower doesn't have the center doesn't have the soft feeling of a 00:31:46

doesn't have the soft feeling of a 00:31:49

doesn't have the soft feeling of a living flower oh they look perfume 00:31:49

living flower oh they look perfume 00:31:52

living flower oh they look perfume plastic flowers but you know what it 00:31:52

plastic flowers but you know what it 00:31:56

plastic flowers but you know what it will do it will snow a vaguely like soap 00:31:56

will do it will snow a vaguely like soap 00:31:57

will do it will snow a vaguely like soap and it won't smell like a flower so 00:31:57

and it won't smell like a flower so 00:32:03

and it won't smell like a flower so it'll be plastic smell now we know that 00:32:03

it'll be plastic smell now we know that 00:32:08

it'll be plastic smell now we know that you see and so we contrast it with the 00:32:08

you see and so we contrast it with the 00:32:11

you see and so we contrast it with the organic in what we're doing now we are 00:32:12

organic in what we're doing now we are 00:32:16

organic in what we're doing now we are getting to a feel of the world that is 00:32:16

getting to a feel of the world that is 00:32:18

getting to a feel of the world that is neither organic nor mechanical simply 00:32:18

neither organic nor mechanical simply 00:32:23

neither organic nor mechanical simply what it is we don't again 00:32:23

what it is we don't again 00:32:28

what it is we don't again we don't know the contrast just as we 00:32:28

we don't know the contrast just as we 00:32:30

we don't know the contrast just as we don't know the contrast voluntary 00:32:30

don't know the contrast voluntary 00:32:31

don't know the contrast voluntary involuntary we don't know the contrast 00:32:31

involuntary we don't know the contrast 00:32:33

involuntary we don't know the contrast organic mechanical neither so we get to 00:32:33

organic mechanical neither so we get to 00:32:41

organic mechanical neither so we get to work the Buddhists call Tata suchness 00:32:41

work the Buddhists call Tata suchness 00:32:45

work the Buddhists call Tata suchness Tata based on the word thought that that 00:32:45

Tata based on the word thought that that 00:32:50

Tata based on the word thought that that fundamentally Dada see Dada Dada Dada 00:32:50

fundamentally Dada see Dada Dada Dada 00:32:53

fundamentally Dada see Dada Dada Dada Dada Dada that's what's going on well 00:32:53

Dada Dada that's what's going on well 00:32:59

Dada Dada that's what's going on well now this is what happens you see in the 00:32:59

now this is what happens you see in the 00:33:02

now this is what happens you see in the meditative state as you are in there you 00:33:02

meditative state as you are in there you 00:33:06

meditative state as you are in there you see everything is da da and you're not 00:33:06

see everything is da da and you're not 00:33:14

see everything is da da and you're not saying anymore 00:33:14

saying anymore 00:33:15

saying anymore well that doesn't amount to anything 00:33:15

well that doesn't amount to anything 00:33:19

well that doesn't amount to anything because you've learned that when people 00:33:19

because you've learned that when people 00:33:21

because you've learned that when people do take you to the place that does 00:33:21

do take you to the place that does 00:33:24

do take you to the place that does amount to something eventually it all 00:33:24

amount to something eventually it all 00:33:29

amount to something eventually it all collapses the price of being taken to 00:33:29

collapses the price of being taken to 00:33:34

collapses the price of being taken to the place seriously you see where it 00:33:34

the place seriously you see where it 00:33:36

the place seriously you see where it really does amount to something this at 00:33:36

really does amount to something this at 00:33:39

really does amount to something this at last is the real thing the price you pay 00:33:39

last is the real thing the price you pay 00:33:43

last is the real thing the price you pay for that you see is the horrors about 00:33:43

for that you see is the horrors about 00:33:48

for that you see is the horrors about its opposite and to the degree that you 00:33:48

its opposite and to the degree that you 00:33:54

its opposite and to the degree that you take that seriously okay you pay the 00:33:54

take that seriously okay you pay the 00:33:57

take that seriously okay you pay the price of the horrors now that's as a 00:33:57

price of the horrors now that's as a 00:33:59

price of the horrors now that's as a matter of fact all so I'm not saying 00:33:59

matter of fact all so I'm not saying 00:34:02

matter of fact all so I'm not saying that you shouldn't take it seriously I 00:34:02

that you shouldn't take it seriously I 00:34:04

that you shouldn't take it seriously I mean look to be specific you are 00:34:04

mean look to be specific you are 00:34:06

mean look to be specific you are tremendously in love with someone and 00:34:06

tremendously in love with someone and 00:34:09

tremendously in love with someone and you plan and plan and plan how possibly 00:34:09

you plan and plan and plan how possibly 00:34:12

you plan and plan and plan how possibly you can get this person to return your 00:34:12

you can get this person to return your 00:34:14

you can get this person to return your love and they do and this is the great 00:34:14

love and they do and this is the great 00:34:18

love and they do and this is the great event this is fantastic but that the 00:34:18

event this is fantastic but that the 00:34:21

event this is fantastic but that the background of your mind is the thought 00:34:21

background of your mind is the thought 00:34:23

background of your mind is the thought of what if this person should be killed 00:34:23

of what if this person should be killed 00:34:25

of what if this person should be killed or or some terrible thing happened that 00:34:25

or or some terrible thing happened that 00:34:29

or or some terrible thing happened that always lurks behind the triumph of 00:34:29

always lurks behind the triumph of 00:34:33

always lurks behind the triumph of getting it so of this intense gorgeous 00:34:33

getting it so of this intense gorgeous 00:34:35

getting it so of this intense gorgeous feeling now if you know that this is in 00:34:36

feeling now if you know that this is in 00:34:44

feeling now if you know that this is in a way an illusion you can allow yourself 00:34:44

a way an illusion you can allow yourself 00:34:47

a way an illusion you can allow yourself to take it quite seriously but always 00:34:47

to take it quite seriously but always 00:34:52

to take it quite seriously but always having a hint okay danke a reservation 00:34:52

having a hint okay danke a reservation 00:34:55

having a hint okay danke a reservation the thought way back this is the game 00:34:55

the thought way back this is the game 00:34:59

the thought way back this is the game and having that as a matter of fact you 00:34:59

and having that as a matter of fact you 00:35:04

and having that as a matter of fact you can take it seriously you can allow 00:35:04

can take it seriously you can allow 00:35:08

can take it seriously you can allow yourself to get involved in life to the 00:35:08

yourself to get involved in life to the 00:35:11

yourself to get involved in life to the most ridiculous degree because you know 00:35:11

most ridiculous degree because you know 00:35:16

most ridiculous degree because you know it's all right now it's just these 00:35:16

it's all right now it's just these 00:35:20

it's all right now it's just these vibrations and so while we let's let's 00:35:20

vibrations and so while we let's let's 00:35:25

vibrations and so while we let's let's really get into it 00:35:25

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that is why a person who might be 00:35:28

that is why a person who might be 00:35:31

that is why a person who might be enlightened 00:35:31

enlightened 00:35:32

enlightened sattva does not always present a kind of 00:35:32

sattva does not always present a kind of 00:35:34

sattva does not always present a kind of detached and indifferent attitude but is 00:35:34

detached and indifferent attitude but is 00:35:39

detached and indifferent attitude but is perfectly free to allow emotions 00:35:39

perfectly free to allow emotions 00:35:46

perfectly free to allow emotions attachments yrh Blythe who was the great 00:35:46

attachments yrh Blythe who was the great 00:35:49

attachments yrh Blythe who was the great Zen man wrote me once and said how are 00:35:49

Zen man wrote me once and said how are 00:35:54

Zen man wrote me once and said how are you these days as for me I have been 00:35:54

you these days as for me I have been 00:35:57

you these days as for me I have been banned and Satori altogether and I'm 00:35:57

banned and Satori altogether and I'm 00:36:00

banned and Satori altogether and I'm trying to become as deeply attached as I 00:36:00

trying to become as deeply attached as I 00:36:03

trying to become as deeply attached as I can to as many people and things as 00:36:03

can to as many people and things as 00:36:04

can to as many people and things as possible so what I'm pointing out to you 00:36:04

possible so what I'm pointing out to you 00:36:13

possible so what I'm pointing out to you is that this basic seeing that it's all 00:36:13

is that this basic seeing that it's all 00:36:16

is that this basic seeing that it's all da da da provides a possibility for you 00:36:16

da da da provides a possibility for you 00:36:22

da da da provides a possibility for you to become involved in it much more 00:36:22

to become involved in it much more 00:36:27

to become involved in it much more incautiously 00:36:27

incautiously 00:36:28

incautiously than you normally are to express feeling 00:36:28

than you normally are to express feeling 00:36:35

than you normally are to express feeling to love to throw yourself at the mercy 00:36:35

to love to throw yourself at the mercy 00:36:39

to love to throw yourself at the mercy of the goings-on completely to see so 00:36:39

of the goings-on completely to see so 00:36:43

of the goings-on completely to see so that this very perception of the 00:36:43

that this very perception of the 00:36:45

that this very perception of the illusion makes it possible to live up 00:36:45

illusion makes it possible to live up 00:36:48

illusion makes it possible to live up the illusion and so if someone therefore 00:36:48

the illusion and so if someone therefore 00:36:54

the illusion and so if someone therefore is always in his attitude to life 00:36:54

is always in his attitude to life 00:36:56

is always in his attitude to life detached and reserved it indicates you 00:36:56

detached and reserved it indicates you 00:36:59

detached and reserved it indicates you see that there's still a primordial fear 00:36:59

see that there's still a primordial fear 00:37:02

see that there's still a primordial fear of getting involved and I must say that 00:37:02

of getting involved and I must say that 00:37:09

of getting involved and I must say that you see I can't understand that very 00:37:09

you see I can't understand that very 00:37:11

you see I can't understand that very well I don't understand what people 00:37:12

well I don't understand what people 00:37:17

well I don't understand what people expect that a so-called enlightened 00:37:17

expect that a so-called enlightened 00:37:19

expect that a so-called enlightened person should not need this that and the 00:37:19

person should not need this that and the 00:37:25

person should not need this that and the other might be beautiful surroundings it 00:37:25

other might be beautiful surroundings it 00:37:27

other might be beautiful surroundings it might be the love of the opposite sex it 00:37:27

might be the love of the opposite sex it 00:37:29

might be the love of the opposite sex it might be I don't know what the horseshoe 00:37:29

might be I don't know what the horseshoe 00:37:33

might be I don't know what the horseshoe shouldn't need that but matter what you 00:37:33

shouldn't need that but matter what you 00:37:35

shouldn't need that but matter what you should scrub everything down to basic 00:37:35

should scrub everything down to basic 00:37:37

should scrub everything down to basic basic and the end of that is you know 00:37:37

basic and the end of that is you know 00:37:39

basic and the end of that is you know let's scrub the planet let's get all 00:37:39

let's scrub the planet let's get all 00:37:41

let's scrub the planet let's get all this disease called life off it and have 00:37:41

this disease called life off it and have 00:37:42

this disease called life off it and have a nice clean Rock 00:37:42

a nice clean Rock 00:37:44

a nice clean Rock I believe in color I believe in if 00:37:44

I believe in color I believe in if 00:37:50

I believe in color I believe in if you're going to do anything in the way 00:37:50

you're going to do anything in the way 00:37:52

you're going to do anything in the way of the illusory dance let's live it up 00:37:52

of the illusory dance let's live it up 00:37:54

of the illusory dance let's live it up let's really do it and let's not be take 00:37:54

let's really do it and let's not be take 00:37:57

let's really do it and let's not be take ourselves so damn seriously that we have 00:37:57

ourselves so damn seriously that we have 00:38:00

ourselves so damn seriously that we have to be scrubbed all the time of any kind 00:38:00

to be scrubbed all the time of any kind 00:38:02

to be scrubbed all the time of any kind of ornamentation or frivolity array but 00:38:02

of ornamentation or frivolity array but 00:38:13

of ornamentation or frivolity array but you see what all this is dependent on 00:38:13

you see what all this is dependent on 00:38:14

you see what all this is dependent on all this is dependent upon being able to 00:38:14

all this is dependent upon being able to 00:38:18

all this is dependent upon being able to get back to the point where it's dot dot 00:38:18

get back to the point where it's dot dot 00:38:20

get back to the point where it's dot dot dot dot dot dot dot now that's what 00:38:20

dot dot dot dot dot now that's what 00:38:24

dot dot dot dot dot now that's what comes in meditation now don't 00:38:24

comes in meditation now don't 00:38:28

comes in meditation now don't misunderstand me if I say practice in 00:38:28

misunderstand me if I say practice in 00:38:30

misunderstand me if I say practice in meditation don't be in a state of 00:38:30

meditation don't be in a state of 00:38:34

meditation don't be in a state of expectation working day after day to 00:38:34

expectation working day after day to 00:38:37

expectation working day after day to improve your meditation meditation 00:38:37

improve your meditation meditation 00:38:39

improve your meditation meditation doesn't like that you just do it but it 00:38:39

doesn't like that you just do it but it 00:38:43

doesn't like that you just do it but it is true that as time goes on and you are 00:38:43

is true that as time goes on and you are 00:38:46

is true that as time goes on and you are in that state of silence you will see 00:38:46

in that state of silence you will see 00:38:53

in that state of silence you will see this quality of the world now the most 00:38:53

this quality of the world now the most 00:38:59

this quality of the world now the most difficult pains and problems to deal 00:38:59

difficult pains and problems to deal 00:39:01

difficult pains and problems to deal with are those that are monotonous 00:39:01

with are those that are monotonous 00:39:04

with are those that are monotonous whereas you can see the possibility of a 00:39:04

whereas you can see the possibility of a 00:39:06

whereas you can see the possibility of a kind of ecstatic self abandonment in a 00:39:06

kind of ecstatic self abandonment in a 00:39:10

kind of ecstatic self abandonment in a catastrophic agony what really gets 00:39:10

catastrophic agony what really gets 00:39:14

catastrophic agony what really gets people down are those ones that drag on 00:39:14

people down are those ones that drag on 00:39:17

people down are those ones that drag on day after day after day after day like 00:39:17

day after day after day after day like 00:39:21

day after day after day after day like having to lie with bed saws in a very 00:39:21

having to lie with bed saws in a very 00:39:25

having to lie with bed saws in a very uncomfortable situation in traction or 00:39:25

uncomfortable situation in traction or 00:39:28

uncomfortable situation in traction or something of that kind or just a 00:39:28

something of that kind or just a 00:39:30

something of that kind or just a perennial difficulty that drips drips 00:39:30

perennial difficulty that drips drips 00:39:32

perennial difficulty that drips drips drips trips like a water torture every 00:39:32

drips trips like a water torture every 00:39:34

drips trips like a water torture every day now this is the kind of situation in 00:39:34

day now this is the kind of situation in 00:39:38

day now this is the kind of situation in which meditation shows its value that 00:39:38

which meditation shows its value that 00:39:44

which meditation shows its value that you are increasingly in a state of 00:39:44

you are increasingly in a state of 00:39:49

you are increasingly in a state of consciousness where the world is 00:39:49

consciousness where the world is 00:39:54

consciousness where the world is babbling every 00:39:54

babbling every 00:39:56

babbling every one of us has something you know that we 00:39:56

one of us has something you know that we 00:39:59

one of us has something you know that we say we don't like to do washing dishes 00:39:59

say we don't like to do washing dishes 00:40:03

say we don't like to do washing dishes doing accounts but when you get into the 00:40:03

doing accounts but when you get into the 00:40:11

doing accounts but when you get into the meditation consciousness you see that 00:40:11

meditation consciousness you see that 00:40:13

meditation consciousness you see that nothing is more important than anything 00:40:13

nothing is more important than anything 00:40:15

nothing is more important than anything else 00:40:15

else 00:40:15

else or less important there is no way of 00:40:15

or less important there is no way of 00:40:20

or less important there is no way of wasting time because what it's time for 00:40:20

wasting time because what it's time for 00:40:27

wasting time because what it's time for except to be wasted and you would be 00:40:27

except to be wasted and you would be 00:40:36

except to be wasted and you would be furthermore you've got you're accustomed 00:40:36

furthermore you've got you're accustomed 00:40:38

furthermore you've got you're accustomed now to sitting and doing nothing 00:40:38

now to sitting and doing nothing 00:40:40

now to sitting and doing nothing I mean meditation itself is the perfect 00:40:40

I mean meditation itself is the perfect 00:40:44

I mean meditation itself is the perfect waste of time out of your mind now 00:40:44

waste of time out of your mind now 00:40:54

waste of time out of your mind now continues with the next lecture from the 00:40:54

continues with the next lecture from the 00:40:56

continues with the next lecture from the inevitable ecstasy lecture series 00:40:56

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now I want to get down to the simplest 00:41:12

now I want to get down to the simplest 00:41:16

now I want to get down to the simplest possible nitty-gritty of what we've been 00:41:16

possible nitty-gritty of what we've been 00:41:19

possible nitty-gritty of what we've been talking about in a very easy way to ask 00:41:19

talking about in a very easy way to ask 00:41:26

talking about in a very easy way to ask ourselves the question quite 00:41:26

ourselves the question quite 00:41:30

ourselves the question quite fundamentally what's all the trouble 00:41:30

fundamentally what's all the trouble 00:41:33

fundamentally what's all the trouble about in other words what is your state 00:41:33

about in other words what is your state 00:41:39

about in other words what is your state of mind when you contemplate the 00:41:39

of mind when you contemplate the 00:41:45

of mind when you contemplate the possibility of everything becoming 00:41:45

possibility of everything becoming 00:41:49

possibility of everything becoming nothing all right so the universe is a 00:41:49

nothing all right so the universe is a 00:41:55

nothing all right so the universe is a transitory system like a bubble like 00:41:55

transitory system like a bubble like 00:41:57

transitory system like a bubble like smoke like foam on the water and so how 00:41:57

smoke like foam on the water and so how 00:42:03

smoke like foam on the water and so how easy just go along with it dissolve so 00:42:03

easy just go along with it dissolve so 00:42:12

easy just go along with it dissolve so what's the problem why why don't we want 00:42:12

what's the problem why why don't we want 00:42:17

what's the problem why why don't we want to give up what do we think we're going 00:42:17

to give up what do we think we're going 00:42:21

to give up what do we think we're going to get by holding on and by resisting 00:42:21

to get by holding on and by resisting 00:42:25

to get by holding on and by resisting the dissolution now I'm not saying at 00:42:25

the dissolution now I'm not saying at 00:42:27

the dissolution now I'm not saying at the moment that as I'm a sort of 00:42:27

the moment that as I'm a sort of 00:42:29

the moment that as I'm a sort of preacher advocating giving up what I'm 00:42:29

preacher advocating giving up what I'm 00:42:34

preacher advocating giving up what I'm interested in for you to feel is what 00:42:34

interested in for you to feel is what 00:42:38

interested in for you to feel is what did what do you really feel like inside 00:42:38

did what do you really feel like inside 00:42:40

did what do you really feel like inside at the prospect of there being nothing 00:42:40

at the prospect of there being nothing 00:42:42

at the prospect of there being nothing of this whole thing being a bubble that 00:42:42

of this whole thing being a bubble that 00:42:45

of this whole thing being a bubble that dissolves you see about death the 00:42:45

dissolves you see about death the 00:42:50

dissolves you see about death the reality of the protein death people are 00:42:50

reality of the protein death people are 00:42:52

reality of the protein death people are apt to feel chilly cold lonely scared 00:42:52

apt to feel chilly cold lonely scared 00:42:58

apt to feel chilly cold lonely scared because it's an unknown the most 00:42:58

because it's an unknown the most 00:43:01

because it's an unknown the most frightening thing about death is that 00:43:01

frightening thing about death is that 00:43:02

frightening thing about death is that like there's something beyond it and you 00:43:02

like there's something beyond it and you 00:43:05

like there's something beyond it and you don't know what it is you remember 00:43:05

don't know what it is you remember 00:43:07

don't know what it is you remember facing the world as a child or at any 00:43:07

facing the world as a child or at any 00:43:12

facing the world as a child or at any time the world is full of threats mostly 00:43:12

time the world is full of threats mostly 00:43:16

time the world is full of threats mostly from other people 00:43:16

from other people 00:43:17

from other people and there are monsters there all sorts 00:43:17

and there are monsters there all sorts 00:43:21

and there are monsters there all sorts of things would scare you but beyond 00:43:21

of things would scare you but beyond 00:43:23

of things would scare you but beyond every monster is death dissolution is 00:43:23

every monster is death dissolution is 00:43:27

every monster is death dissolution is the end of it all and by and large the 00:43:27

the end of it all and by and large the 00:43:32

the end of it all and by and large the art of government is to fill that void 00:43:32

art of government is to fill that void 00:43:35

art of government is to fill that void beyond death with threats of a rather 00:43:35

beyond death with threats of a rather 00:43:38

beyond death with threats of a rather unspecified nature so that we can rule 00:43:38

unspecified nature so that we can rule 00:43:43

unspecified nature so that we can rule people by saying if you don't do as I 00:43:43

people by saying if you don't do as I 00:43:47

people by saying if you don't do as I tell you I'll kill you or you'll kill 00:43:47

tell you I'll kill you or you'll kill 00:43:50

tell you I'll kill you or you'll kill yourself 00:43:50

yourself 00:43:52

yourself and so long as we can be scared of that 00:43:52

and so long as we can be scared of that 00:43:56

and so long as we can be scared of that and so long as we can be made to think 00:43:56

and so long as we can be made to think 00:43:59

and so long as we can be made to think of death as a bad thing we can be ruled 00:43:59

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and that is why no government likes 00:44:03

and that is why no government likes 00:44:06

and that is why no government likes mystics because if we define the 00:44:06

mystics because if we define the 00:44:10

mystics because if we define the mystical as the person who is no longer 00:44:10

mystical as the person who is no longer 00:44:12

mystical as the person who is no longer scared of death because the mystic is in 00:44:12

scared of death because the mystic is in 00:44:16

scared of death because the mystic is in the simplest possible language the 00:44:16

the simplest possible language the 00:44:17

the simplest possible language the person who understands that you have to 00:44:18

person who understands that you have to 00:44:20

person who understands that you have to have nothing to have something you can't 00:44:20

have nothing to have something you can't 00:44:26

have nothing to have something you can't fundamentally scare the mystic with 00:44:26

fundamentally scare the mystic with 00:44:28

fundamentally scare the mystic with death because say well what end can it 00:44:28

death because say well what end can it 00:44:32

death because say well what end can it all come to what's all the trouble about 00:44:32

all come to what's all the trouble about 00:44:34

all come to what's all the trouble about the most it can come to is nothing I 00:44:34

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mean there may be some troubles on the 00:44:39

mean there may be some troubles on the 00:44:41

mean there may be some troubles on the way of resisting this basically 00:44:41

way of resisting this basically 00:44:43

way of resisting this basically resisting I mean as you might say the 00:44:43

resisting I mean as you might say the 00:44:45

resisting I mean as you might say the very cells in your body resists their 00:44:45

very cells in your body resists their 00:44:47

very cells in your body resists their dissolution and so in this resistance as 00:44:47

dissolution and so in this resistance as 00:44:50

dissolution and so in this resistance as an experience called pain which we've 00:44:51

an experience called pain which we've 00:44:54

an experience called pain which we've been discussing but beyond pain is is 00:44:54

been discussing but beyond pain is is 00:44:57

been discussing but beyond pain is is annihilation or so it seems anyway what 00:44:57

annihilation or so it seems anyway what 00:45:06

annihilation or so it seems anyway what will it be like to go to sleep and never 00:45:06

will it be like to go to sleep and never 00:45:07

will it be like to go to sleep and never wake up nobody can think about it but 00:45:07

wake up nobody can think about it but 00:45:12

wake up nobody can think about it but what is that state when you're teased 00:45:12

what is that state when you're teased 00:45:16

what is that state when you're teased out of thought 00:45:16

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see get with it going to sleep and never 00:45:20

see get with it going to sleep and never 00:45:23

see get with it going to sleep and never waking up this is not as he would 00:45:23

waking up this is not as he would 00:45:29

waking up this is not as he would fantasize 00:45:29